Trump supporter threatens to kill Congresswoman Ilhan Omar

[RRR3]

https://lawandcrime.com/islamophobia/ill-put-a-bullet-in-her-fing-skull-trump-supporter-allegedly-threatens-to-murder-rep-ilhan-omar/




Disgusting.

[Akrazotile]

Conservative public figures get death threats CONSTANTLY. Like, around the clock, all the time.

Why is this any more newsworthy?

[Patrick Chewing]

She should be put down or at least arrested. She

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]She should be put down or at least arrested. She

[Akrazotile]

Conservative public figures get death threats CONSTANTLY. Like, around the clock, all the time.

Why is this any more newsworthy?


Notice the complete dodge of this question.

[RRR3]

Notice the complete dodge of this question.
All you guys can do is whataboutism. Pathetic.

[tpols]

gAngster.

[coin24]

Pat you need to be on a terrorist watchlist :oldlol:



Ilhan Omar is great and a breath of fresh air in Washington.


What a surprise, the bran loving sjw soyboy is a Muslim apologist.

You can't make this shit up:lol

[RRR3]

You guys hate anyone who shows that they care about ALL types of people. Jesus.

[tpols]

You guys hate anyone who shows that they care about ALL types of people. Jesus.


you dont really care... just virtue signaling for your ego.

[coin24]

You guys hate anyone who shows that they care about ALL types of people. Jesus.


hows the weather up there on your high horse??

[Patrick Chewing]

Pat you need to be on a terrorist watchlist :oldlol:



Ilhan Omar is great and a breath of fresh air in Washington.


She

[qrich]

You guys hate anyone who shows that they care about ALL types of people. Jesus.

But she doesn't care about all types of people...

[RRR3]

But she doesn't care about all types of people...
Yes she does.


Turn off Fox News.

[qrich]

Yes she does.


Turn off Fox News.


If anyone should turn off anything, it's you.

She cares as much about Jews as Laker fans care about the Clippers and vice versa.

[RRR3]

If anyone should turn off anything, it's you.

She cares as much about Jews as Laker fans care about the Clippers and vice versa.
Criticizing a lobbying group that has way too much influence on foreign policy and criticizing a country whose official religion is Judaism committing atrocities does not mean she doesn

[qrich]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Criticizing a lobbying group that has way too much influence on foreign policy and criticizing a country whose official religion is Judaism committing atrocities does not mean she doesn

[Patrick Chewing]

This loser is trolling. I

[RRR3]

Yes, because that's all she does.

Just stop sis, don't be the next Lil Donny/Blade/Max.
What else has she done, slugger?

[coin24]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]This loser is trolling. I

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]This loser is trolling. I

[tpols]

this guy is like a sjw meme

:lol :facepalm

[qrich]

What else has she done, slugger?

Well, she got Republican and Democrat extremists to agree so I guess she deserves credit for that

[Patrick Chewing]

I bet Christianity is totally cool though huh?

Hypocrite.

Judeo-Christian beliefs built this country and this government. We were also able to separate Church from State in order to govern equally and to govern fair.


Governments in Islam do not have a Constitution. They govern based on their beliefs. Sharia Law.

A Muslim in the halls of Congress is an affront to everything this country stands for. For her, it

[eliteballer]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Judeo-Christian beliefs built this country and this government. We were also able to separate Church from State in order to govern equally and to govern fair.


Governments in Islam do not have a Constitution. They govern based on their beliefs. Sharia Law.

A Muslim in the halls of Congress is an affront to everything this country stands for. For her, it

[Patrick Chewing]

Israel governs based on religion too..but I don't see you complaining about that. Or AIPAC, and many of it's supporters who but Israel's interests before the United States.


That is incorrect. They have a similar three-branch style of government. They do not operate as a monarchy, nor do they punish their citizens with death or dismemberment for their sexual orientation or for committing petty crimes. Women are allowed to drive and vote and are even allowed in the military.

[eliteballer]

That is incorrect. They have a similar three-branch style of government. They do not operate as a monarchy, nor do they punish their citizens with death or dismemberment for their sexual orientation or for committing petty crimes. Women are allowed to drive and vote and are even allowed in the military.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/10/benjamin-netanyahu-says-israel-is-not-a-state-of-all-its-citizens

[RRR3]

That is incorrect. They have a similar three-branch style of government. They do not operate as a monarchy, nor do they punish their citizens with death or dismemberment for their sexual orientation or for committing petty crimes. Women are allowed to drive and vote and are even allowed in the military.
Why do you guys always think people with political views like me are okay with far-right extremist Islamic countries? We

[imdaman99]

Muslims getting these internet nerds triggered on the regular :roll:

Ramadan is coming boys :rockon:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]She

[Hawker]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Why do you guys always think people with political views like me are okay with far-right extremist Islamic countries? We

[Hawker]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/10/benjamin-netanyahu-says-israel-is-not-a-state-of-all-its-citizens

I like how you think by just responding with a link to an article you're making an argument.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Judeo-Christian beliefs built this country and this government.


You are giving props to those "beliefs" and you are averse to Islam---which is a culmination and the last revelation of those beliefs. Islam, in whose Holy Book the Qu'ran mentions the story of Isa (AS)/Jesus and Moses (AS) several times throughout the Scripture. Islam, which just like Judaism and Christianity believe in Monotheism, Angels, the Afterlife, the Holy Scriptures, and beliefs like the Day of Judgment, Heaven and Hell, the Prophets, the sacredness of family, the worship of the One God of Abraham. Fasting, charity, and prayer done sincerely for God's sake as good deeds. Mercy, trustworthiness, truthfulness, compassion, humility, kindness, forgiveness, gentleness, wisdom, love, peace, as beautiful inner traits for a human to cultivate. Justice for human beings. The enemy of man being the devil.




We were also able to separate Church from State in order to govern equally and to govern fair.

Fair?

Tell me Patrick, how is it fair to GOD ALMIGHTY to say that humans know better than Him in "secular" matters?
HOW IS IT FAIR TO GOD ALMIGHTY to claim that He has children?
HOW IS IT JUST TO GOD ALMIGHTY to ignore His Commandments?
How is it JUST to GOD ALMIGHTY to change His Scripture to suit the local whims and desires of the people like some Christians are guilty of doing.
How is it JUST TO GOD ALMIGHTY to claim that because I belong to a certain tribe (Jews) I'm special and everyone who's not like me is inferior---when GOD MADE EVERYONE black, white, brown, yellow, red etc.




Governments in Islam do not have a Constitution. They govern based on their beliefs. Sharia Law.

The Madina Charter is very similar to a Constitution.
"Their beliefs" are the same beliefs as Jews and Christians for the most part--difference being is that Islam is full submission to God's Will.

Which is what JESUS AND MOSES WERE ALSO ABOUT. SUBMISSION TO GOD's WILL.

[QUOTE]
A Muslim in the halls of Congress is an affront to everything this country stands for. For her, it

[Smoke117]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]

A Muslim in the halls of Congress is an affront to everything this country stands for. For her, it

[Hawker]

this guy is like a sjw meme

:lol :facepalm

Every time OP ventures into the OTC to post about politics all he does is call everyone racist.

[imdaman99]

Agreed. These people put their cult above all else first. How the hell did this bitch even get voted in? Jesus christ.
She got voted in because she was a great candidate. And because fools like you were too lazy to vote against her :oldlol:

Keep it up buddy.

[red1]

The only person Ive seen who uses the phrase "judeo-christian values" is Ben Shapiro

Thanks for confirming for the millionth time that all you do is regurgitate the material from other right wing commentators fatrick you joke.

On topic I hope my Somali sister does a great job for her constituents, and just as important I hope she keeps triggering you clowns.


Stay triggered :)

[PickernRoller]

She's right about the Benjamins tho....

Ain't nothing anti-"semite" about that.

[Hawker]

She got voted in because she was a great candidate. And because fools like you were too lazy to vote against her :oldlol:

Keep it up buddy.

Let's be real - because America imported a large number of somalis to a certain region in the states, we now have a somali representative that has a certain disdain for the US.

That's really how she got in - by importing a bunch of constituents like her and they all voting for her.

She's definitely low-IQ and useful for making the democrats look extreme.

[Trollsmasher]

she is an active security threat and should be designated and treated accordingly by the Pentagon

[RoseCity07]

Repubs are such hateful people.

[TheReturn]

From the outside looking in (European) it feels as if these conservative posters are trolling. It's hard to fathom someone being that hateful and ignorant.

[Terahite]

From the outside looking in (European) it feels as if these conservative posters are trolling. It's hard to phantom someone being that hateful and ignorant.

The word is fathom, stupid. And no one respects you over here on either side of the aisle you condescending douchebag.

[rufuspaul]

She gets voted into congress and the first thing she does is insult Israel and Jews everywhere. But she's not antisemitic. :rolleyes:

[Rocket]

Israel governs based on religion too..but I don't see you complaining about that. Or AIPAC, and many of it's supporters who but Israel's interests before the United States.

Wow, this is the person may be the most misinformed person on this forum.

[TheReturn]

The word is fathom, stupid. And no one respects you over here on either side of the aisle you condescending douchebag.
Thanks!

[red1]

Let's be real - because America imported a large number of somalis to a certain region in the states, we now have a somali representative that has a certain disdain for the US.

That's really how she got in - by importing a bunch of constituents like her and they all voting for her.

She's definitely low-IQ and useful for making the democrats look extreme.


She gets voted into congress and the first thing she does is insult Israel and Jews everywhere. But she's not antisemitic. :rolleyes:
Neither of you know what you're talking about. :oldlol: :facepalm

When all you're plugged into is breitbart and fox news OF COURSE you would have that opinion.

The comment about money in politics IE lobbying was factually correct. There's literally zero argument otherwise.



She criticizes the Saudis more harshly than the factual rightwing Israeli lobby in aipac. The saudis have a disgusting human rights record which isn't exposed because of all of the money lining the pockets of corrupt american politicians.

Does that make her an islamophobe as well? :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/1052046943369789440?lang=en

This whole antisemitic thing was tit-for-tat nonsense - the right playing the same game that the left plays screaming "bigot."


None of it was factual.

[NumberSix]

Meanwhile, Bernie supporters actually DO try to assassinate politicians.

[red1]

On topic - good job FBI. :oldlol: :applause:

[QUOTE]Per the Department of Justice (DOJ), Carlineo said:

Do you work for the Muslim Brotherhood? Why are you working for her, she

[RRR3]

Meanwhile, Bernie supporters actually DO try to assassinate politicians.
Look at this idiot acting like the MAGAbomber never happened.

[NumberSix]

Look at this idiot acting like the MAGAbomber never happened.
You mean the guy who mailed out inactive bombs where nobody actually got hurt? Yeah, that

[red1]

Look at this idiot acting like the MAGAbomber never happened.
Not gonna lie OP your posts rub me the wrong way. I hate a racist redneck more than anyone. With that cushion in place, with that said - that SJW shit isn't good for the male soul.


Just being real with you.

[RRR3]

From the outside looking in (European) it feels as if these conservative posters are trolling. It's hard to fathom someone being that hateful and ignorant.
Unfortunately they actually are that hateful and ignorant.

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]You mean the guy who mailed out inactive bombs where nobody actually got hurt? Yeah, that

[qrich]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah he totally wasn

[qrich]

What game? I'm bringing up when a Republican attacked his Democratic neighbor for being a Member of Congress!

It caused quite stir in the media, CNN wouldn't shut up about it!



Oh wait...CNN hardly mentioned it, and dumb mother****ers like you defended it.

[RRR3]

We also can't forget the Republican who broke into his neighbors house and broke his ribs, just because his neighbor was a Democratic member of Congress.
You don

[qrich]

Deleting posts now...very cute and coward-like.

[RRR3]

Deleting posts now...very cute and coward-like.
Talk about desperation. I deleted that because I found better links. That first link was silly since it didn

[qrich]

Calls Islamic Extremists right wing....

Defends Omar.




You, Lil Donny, Blade and Max need to attend group help for the TDS you are suffering from.

[RRR3]

Calls Islamic Extremists right wing....

Defends Omar.




You, Lil Donny, Blade and Max need to attend group help for the TDS you are suffering from.
Omar is an Islamic extremist based on what, exactly? Her progressive political views? :roll:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Calls Islamic Extremists right wing....

Defends Omar.




You, Lil Donny, Blade and Max need to attend group help for the TDS you are suffering from.

Oh, look what we have here.

Social shaming from the Islamophobes to try to get the left-oriented people (who seem to still possess some sense of justice) on their side.

Jokes on you, qrich, even if you do, you still lose.

By the way, qrich, your insults mean nothing. I guarantee "Lil Donny" would smoke you in any battle.

[RRR3]

Oh, look what we have here.

Social shaming from the Islamophobes to try to get the left-oriented people (who seem to still possess some sense of justice) on their side.

Jokes on you, qrich, even if you do, you still lose.

By the way, qrich, your insults mean nothing. I guarantee "Lil Donny" would smoke you in any battle.

You will pay for your sins in the Next Life.
He’ll never get me on his side AKA the side of hate.

[qrich]

Oh, look what we have here.

Social shaming from the Islamophobes to try to get the left-oriented people (who seem to still possess some sense of justice) on their side.

Jokes on you, qrich, even if you do, you still lose.

By the way, qrich, your insults mean nothing. I guarantee "Lil Donny" would smoke you in any battle.
Why'd you edit your post out buddy? Oh yeah, another coward.

And :roll: @ lil Donny smoking anyone...only thing he's smoked is his "acting career."

Also, pray tell how I'm an "Islamaphobe?"

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Why'd you edit your post out buddy? Oh yeah, another coward.

I said "you will pay for your sins in the next life," but that's not going to have any effect.

First of all, what the heck is an "Islamic extremist?"

Wouldn't an extremist be someone who is really really Muslim--i.e. prays salat more often, fasts every other day, lives a very humble life, focus on the Hereafter, has a higher character and gives a lot more in charity more than a "moderate" Muslim?

Instead, you link that word with groups who engage in violence in your little propaganda schemes.

What is it with you people and your crazy misnomers? Why do you people lock on to such bogus terms?

Secondly, if you people are referring to groups linked with violence, then Omar certainly doesn't fit into that group.


And :roll: @ lil Donny smoking anyone...only thing he's smoked is his "acting career."[QUOTE]

Are you jealous that Don, MaxFly, RRR3 were given the balls and the heart to
a) support people not of their own kind out of a higher sense of justice instead of only self-serving
and
b) the courage to stand up for what they believe in going against the crowd
and
c) willingness to fight for the minority


[QUOTE]
Also, pray tell how I'm an "Islamaphobe?"

No need for me to--you can go ahead and ask yourself that question.

[Hawker]

Oh, look what we have here.

Social shaming from the Islamophobes to try to get the left-oriented people (who seem to still possess some sense of justice) on their side.

Jokes on you, qrich, even if you do, you still lose.

By the way, qrich, your insults mean nothing. I guarantee "Lil Donny" would smoke you in any battle.

Islamophobe isn't a real thing - and that term is really only coined to deflect real legitimate criticism of Islam.

[qrich]

I said "you will pay for your sins in the next life," but that's not going to have any effect.

Because....no such thing exists?


First of all, what the heck is an "Islamic extremist?"

Wouldn't an extremist be someone who is really really Muslim--i.e. prays salat more often, fasts every other day, lives a very humble life, focus on the Hereafter, has a higher character and gives a lot more in charity more than a "moderate" Muslim?

Instead, you link that word with groups who engage in violence in your little propaganda schemes.

What is it with you people and your crazy misnomers? Why do you people lock on to such bogus terms?

Secondly, if you people are referring to groups linked with violence, then Omar certainly doesn't fit into that group.

Why don't you ask your buddy here what an Islamic Extremist is, as he's the one that stated it?




Are you jealous that Don, MaxFly, RRR3 were given the balls and the heart to
a) support people not of their own kind out of a higher sense of justice instead of only self-serving
and
b) the courage to stand up for what they believe in going against the crowd
and
c) willingness to fight for the minority

This is hilarious. "Going against the crowd" when their going with the crowd. Absolute hilarious.



No need for me to--you can go ahead and ask yourself that question.

Of course you are unable to backup your own claims.

Very cute.

[Hawker]

Neither of you know what you're talking about. :oldlol: :facepalm

When all you're plugged into is breitbart and fox news OF COURSE you would have that opinion.

The comment about money in politics IE lobbying was factually correct. There's literally zero argument otherwise.



She criticizes the Saudis more harshly than the factual rightwing Israeli lobby in aipac. The saudis have a disgusting human rights record which isn't exposed because of all of the money lining the pockets of corrupt american politicians.

Does that make her an islamophobe as well? :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/1052046943369789440?lang=en

This whole antisemitic thing was tit-for-tat nonsense - the right playing the same game that the left plays screaming "bigot."


None of it was factual.

Ok - that tweet is merely her just jumping on the bandwagon when that Kashoggi thing came out.

Also, her district is heavy somali-american is it not? Don't see how that's incorrect.

She is low IQ though and does speak with a general disdain for the US - that's my opinion though.

[red1]

why is everyone always trying to label each other. who gives a ****.

labeling each other was the problem in the first place. when everyone and everything is a bigot or offensive then it was only a matter of time until the other side got sick of being labelled, and now they used the same playbook to falsely accuse someone else of being a bigot - in this case an anti-semite.




sometimes I wonder if a democracy truly is the best system, when you have so many morons running around... lowering the voting age is the dumbest idea I've ever heard and now I'm starting to think we should have some of form of testing before anyone can vote...

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

why is everyone always trying to label each other. who gives a ****.

labeling each other was the problem in the first place. when everyone and everything is a bigot or offensive then it was only a matter of time until the other side got sick of being labelled, and now they used the same playbook to falsely accuse someone else of being a bigot - in this case an anti-semite.




sometimes I wonder if a democracy truly is the best system, when you have so many morons running around... lowering the voting age is the dumbest idea I've ever heard and now I'm starting to think we should have some of form of testing before anyone can vote...

That's a very profound point, brother. Let us ask ourselves what is best for all of mankind's welfare?

[red1]

Ok - that tweet is merely her just jumping on the bandwagon when that Kashoggi thing came out.

Also, her district is heavy somali-american is it not? Don't see how that's incorrect.

She is low IQ though and does speak with a general disdain for the US - that's my opinion though.
Your opinion sucked and so did rufus' opinion and I'll tell you why - you're just regurgitating right wing rhetoric without even realizing it.

Criticizing the saudis is not "jumping on the bandwagon" it's factually pointing out a real problem - the saudis are the most corrupt on earth and criticizing them is something your own government officials won't do. And this issue is bipartisan. Clinton bush and obama were the same.

And for you to claim that she is low IQ when she was factually right on the topic of lobbying- that just makes you look stupid.

[red1]

That's a very profound point, brother. Let us ask ourselves what is best for all of mankind's welfare?
Being secular is one of them. Religion has zero place in the halls of governance.


That applies for every religion in every country.

[Hawker]

Your opinion sucked and so did rufus' opinion and I'll tell you why - you're just regurgitating right wing rhetoric without even realizing it.

Criticizing the saudis is not "jumping on the bandwagon" it's factually pointing out a real problem - the saudis are the most corrupt on earth and criticizing them is something your own government officials won't do. And this issue is bipartisan. Clinton bush and obama were the same.

And for you to claim that she is low IQ when she was factually right on the topic of lobbying- that just makes you look stupid.

I'm not saying she's low IQ because of the lobbying topic - I'm saying she's low IQ because of her policy stances.

It is jumping on the bandwagon - it's a safe move for her. While it's not incorrect, she likely only started deeming Saudi a problem when that happened.

Believe it or not - there have been individuals and politicians who criticized Saudi before it was something they could hit Trump on.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Islamophobe isn't a real thing - and that term is really only coined to deflect real legitimate criticism of Islam.


Oh it most certainly is a real thing. And it's abundant here on ISH.

Why would someone like Pat, who lives in the U.S. go out of his way DAY AFTER DAY, DAY AFTER DAY, talking about "muzzies" referring to them as "rats", and "pests" and "poison". He talks about enslaving people and teaching them the Good Book.

TheMan posted pictures of Crusaders and guys that have been "fabled to" kill Moors in the past. Over and over again. Proud of being related to people who killed Muslims.

Objectivity refers to Muslims as "insects" and lauded and praised the New Zealand attacker as a hero.

coin24 has basically called Muslims "cousin-f*ckers" "inbred" "stone age" "backwards" and all kinds of insults

Is that rational behavior? What threat does a group of 1-2% population in the U.S. pose to him, exactly?

Do they pose a bigger threat to them as things such as heart attacks, car crashes, health, financial prosperity etc... Of course not.

Whether you want to admit or not, Hawk, ISH has featured the following people hysterically slandering Muslims for the past 4 years.

And a disproportionate amount of threads were used to bash them.

Patrick Chewing
Objectivity
BigNBAFan
coin24
dude77
Nick Young (for some time)
9erempires



I'm going to be very clear though, the people I just listed.... What they put out through the keyboard pales into comparison to what they conceal in their hearts. Real raw hatred.

Your choice to respond in the way you have these past few months implies that you are slowly going to become more like them.

If you want to go down that route, Hawk, I can't do anything to stop you. You're your own man.

[RRR3]

Some of Ilhan Omar’s positions

•Free college for families who make under $125,000

•Medicare for all

•Anti-war, anti-intervention

•Supports LGBTQIA

•$15 minimum wage

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhan_Omar




B-b-b-but she’s a far right Islamic terrorist! :cry: -qrich

[red1]

the crown prince of saudi arabia commentating on her:


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1073502857414946817

"Whenever you buy a slave, buy a stick along with the slave, because slaves are miserable scum"

then you have a verified twitter poster from the UAE and saudi media:

"This miserable creature that feels inferior and tries to compensate by avenging her people."
https://twitter.com/TRTWorldCitizen/status/1073502857414946817


but she's a pro-muslim anti-semite. :oldlol:

it's truly laughable. I don't give a **** about this lady or her state. I'm ethnically somali which is probably the only thing that we have in common. the reason this story rubs me the wrong way is because of how blatantly fake it is.

the same way the russian collusion narrative was fake news pushed by the left, this antisemitic story is fake new being pushed by the right. calling out a rightwing israeli lobby =/= insulting all jews like the snowflakes of bari weiss' ilk are trying to tell us.

[Hawker]

Oh it most certainly is a real thing. And it's abundant here on ISH.

Why would someone like Pat, who lives in the U.S. go out of his way DAY AFTER DAY, DAY AFTER DAY, talking about "muzzies" referring to them as "rats", and "pests" and "poison". He talks about enslaving people and teaching them the Good Book.

TheMan posted pictures of Crusaders and guys that have been "fabled to" kill Moors in the past. Over and over again. Proud of being related to people who killed Muslims.

Objectivity refers to Muslims as "insects" and lauded and praised the New Zealand attacker as a hero.

coin24 has basically called Muslims "cousin-f*ckers" "inbred" "stone age" "backwards" and all kinds of insults

Is that rational behavior? What threat does a group of 1-2% population in the U.S. pose to him, exactly?

Do they pose a bigger threat to them as things such as heart attacks, car crashes, health, financial prosperity etc... Of course not.

Whether you want to admit or not, Hawk, ISH has featured the following people hysterically slandering Muslims for the past 4 years.

And a disproportionate amount of threads were used to bash them.

Patrick Chewing
Objectivity
BigNBAFan
coin24
dude77
Nick Young (for some time)
9erempires



I'm going to be very clear though, the people I just listed.... What they put out through the keyboard pales into comparison to what they conceal in their hearts. Real raw hatred.

Your choice to respond in the way you have these past few months implies that you are slowly going to become more like them.

If you want to go down that route, Hawk, I can't do anything to stop you. You're your own man.


You have NOT seen that behavior from Muslims like imdaman99 or red1 or bosnian_sajo.

There's a reason for that.
So that means they're scared of Muslims? Yeah, nah.

Christians get those names all the time as well from the general population. Are they christianophobes?

No, they are just throwing insults. That's all.

Again, there's legitimate criticism to be made of Islam, muslims countries and questionable assimilation. I can point to Pew Research polls, governments, individuals etc to back up my argument as well. Throwing islamophobe out there is just a way to neuter the conversation and deflect from legitimate criticism.

[red1]

I'm not saying she's low IQ because of the lobbying topic - I'm saying she's low IQ because of her policy stances.

It is jumping on the bandwagon - it's a safe move for her. While it's not incorrect, she likely only started deeming Saudi a problem when that happened.

Believe it or not - there have been individuals and politicians who criticized Saudi before it was something they could hit Trump on.
Well if it's about the policies then that's your opinion which you're free to have and it's a good way to save face. If it's about commenting on the story then you have to acknowledge that there is zero proof of antisemitism.


And no, trump is not the only who sycophantically buddies up with saudis. Like I said in my previous post, all of the leaders of our time have done that.

[Hawker]

Well if it's about the policies then that's your opinion which you're free to have and it's a good way to save face. If it's about commenting on the story then you have to acknowledge that there is zero proof of antisemitism.


And no, trump is not the only who sycophantically buddies up with saudis. Like I said in my previous post, all of the leaders of our time have done that.

I think I mentioned to you before how I said her criticism is legitimate - but I've never met a muslim who didn't have some sort of disdain for Israel. You even see it on ISH.

Malaysia doesn't even recognize it as a legitimate country and the PM called jews 'hook nosed' and defended its right ban jewish swimmers. And this is the "moderate" country that many like to claim is not extreme.

[red1]

I think I mentioned to you before how I said her criticism is legitimate - but I've never met a muslim who didn't have some sort of disdain for Israel. You even see it on ISH.

Malaysia doesn't even recognize it as a legitimate country and call jews 'hook nosed' and defended its right ban jewish swimmers. And this is the "moderate" country that many like to claim is not extreme.
Exactly. That's all I'm saying.

That's unfortunate. I live in Toronto and muslims and jews get along great. I'm not an idiot I know a lot of muslims dislike jews and they're wrong, mostly from a lack of exposure. It's the same as the christians on this board like chewing who dislike muslims but admit that they've never really interacted with any. It's idiotic.

Disliking right wing israeli policies is not the same thing. They're still in a state of war against the palestinians and they're treating them like prisoners of war.

[Hawker]

Exactly. That's all I'm saying.

That's unfortunate. I live in Toronto and muslims and jews get along great. I'm not an idiot I know a lot of muslims dislike jews and they're wrong, mostly from a lack of exposure. It's the same as the christians on this board like chewing who dislike muslims but admit that they've never really interacted with any. It's idiotic.

Disliking right wing israeli policies is not the same thing. They're still in a state of war against the palestinians and they're treating them like prisoners of war.

That's good man - and how it should be.

I think you can still criticize the culture and the government but when you meet one in person, you have to treat the individual as unique.

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah he totally wasn

[red1]

That's good man - and how it should be.

I think you can still criticize the culture and the government but when you meet one in person, you have to treat the individual as unique.
Exactly. You see, it's really not even that complicated. :cheers:



The problem of our time is that we have too many squawk boxes, too many morons mouthing off and putting bullshit out there. There's a reason why the phrase fake news is now in our common vernacular.

[NumberSix]

And for you to claim that she is low IQ when she was factually right on the topic of lobbying- that just makes you look stupid.
she’s not factually right on lobbying. I’m not claiming she’s motivated by hating Jews. I’m just saying she’s wrong.

I don’t know where people picked up this delusion that politicians support Israel or guns rights because money from AIPAC or the NRA.

When you see the leaders of both parties taking a position that polls also show the people overwhelming support, it’s clear what’s going on. It’s not the politician’s being “bought off” by lobbyists.

The leaders of both parties are pro Israel because the American people are pro Israel. Not because of lobbying. It’s not like their aren’t lobbyists for interests groups who aren’t exactly Israel friendly.

Countries like Qatar, UAE, China and Saudi Arabia spend WAY more money lobbying. You notice no politicians talk about Qatar the way they talk about Israel. That because the American people don’t love Qatar they way they love Israel.

The idea that AIPAC is somehow “buying” pro-Israel policy is absolutely not factually correct. American politicians are pro-Israel because American voters choose to elect pro-Israel politicians.

[red1]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]she

[red1]

Red1, my e-mail is lifeisatest11@yahoo.com

I'd like to share some knowledge with you that may be of benefit, if you can send me a quick e-mail.

Thanks.
Just link it here bro.


FYI I already have a quran at home.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Just link it here bro.


FYI I already have a quran at home.

Lovely. If you could spare some time out of your busy schedule to read the following links and put some thought in them. Greatly appreciated.

I encourage you to reflect on the following ayats to reaffirm the truth:

But when you do it you got to do it with a sincere heart wanting God's guidance

2:20
3:118
first thirty ayats of chapter 18


https://www.abukhadeejah.com/categories-of-tawheed-not-adding-hakimiyyah/

https://www.islamicity.org/5685/medina-charter-of-prophet-muhammad-and-pluralism/

Thanks man.

[NumberSix]

The entire accusation was that her comments were made because she is antisemitic. And in reality we don't know that.
They might be motivated by antisemitism, but we don’t know that.

She’s made other comments that are pretty objectively motivated by antisemitism. This one however, you can’t objectively say that.


To address your point thanks for bringing up another subject that is extremely laughable - christian zionism.


The evangelicals literally want the jews in israel so jesus can return and lift them up to heaven. :roll:
NO evangelical Christian has ever told you this. This is just something dumb lefties tell each other that this is why Evangelicals support Israel. It’s not.

Ask actual evangelical Christians why they support Israel. They’ll ALL tell you the same thing. The reason why they support Israel is because in the book of Genesis, God tells the Israelites/Jews that he will bless those that bless them and curse those that curse them. Meaning, if you’re an evangelical Christian, you believe God wants you to be a friend of the Israelites/Jews. It’s God’s will and he will bless those that carry out his will. THAT is the reason why evangelicals are so strongly pro-Israel.


And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

[red1]

Lovely. If you could spare some time out of your busy schedule to read the following links and put some thought in them. Greatly appreciated.

I encourage you to reflect on the following ayats to reaffirm the truth:

But when you do it you got to do it with a sincere heart wanting God's guidance

2:20
3:118
first thirty ayats of chapter 18


https://www.abukhadeejah.com/categories-of-tawheed-not-adding-hakimiyyah/

https://www.islamicity.org/5685/medina-charter-of-prophet-muhammad-and-pluralism/

Thanks man.
Ok I'll take a look.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]They might be motivated by antisemitism, but we don

[red1]

Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama all faced pressure from wealthy potential campaign donors to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, but Trump is listening to a voice they were not: evangelical Christians who appear to believe in the “Rapture.” Some, like vice president Mike Pence and secretary of state Mike Pompeo, hold posts inside his cabinet. For Rapture Christians, returning Jerusalem to the Jewish people is a key to the second coming of Christ.

https://qz.com/1270516/jerusalem-embassy-trumps-foreign-policy-looks-like-rapture-christians-plan-to-trigger-apocalypse/


On a very different subject, the public is divided over whether Jesus Christ will return to earth by 2050. About four-in-ten (41%) expect Jesus Christ to return while slightly more (46%) say this will definitely or probably not happen.

...

As expected, predictions about whether Jesus Christ will return to earth in the next 40 years divide along religious lines. Fully 58% of white evangelical Christians say Jesus Christ will definitely or probably return to earth in this period, by far the highest percentage in any religious group. Only about a third of Catholics (32%), and even fewer white mainline Protestants (27%) and the religiously unaffiliated (20%) predict Jesus Christ’s return to earth.

https://www.people-press.org/2010/06/22/section-3-war-terrorism-and-global-trends/

[red1]

Maybe you're right about that genesis passage playing a large role. It doesn't refute the fact that many evangelicals literally think jesus will return and help them ascend to heaven, once the jews gather in israel.


Like I said - absolutely laughable. :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

It doesn't refute the fact that many evangelicals literally think jesus will return and help them ascend to heaven, once the jews gather in israel.


Like I said - absolutely laughable. :oldlol:
Israel exists. Millions of Jews ARE ‘gathered’ there. Being pro-Israel or anti-Israel does not change this reality. The idea that American policy is somehow trying to orchestrate the rapture is what is absolutely laughable.

Again, no evangelical has ever told you that. This is just something lefties say amongst themselves.

Like I said, try asking some actual evangelicals why they support Israel. Absolutely nobody is going to tell they support Israel because they want to trigger the rapture.

[red1]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Israel exists. Millions of Jews ARE

[red1]

And why do you keep talking about lefties in the context of christian zionism. Stop strawmanning no one cares about lefties.


Like I said, try asking some actual evangelicals why they support Israel. Absolutely nobody is going to tell they support Israel because they want to trigger the rapture.
I agree with that. That doesn't mean that they don't believe it.

[NumberSix]

So you acknowledge that there is no proof of antisemitism from Ilhan.
With this particular example, I don

[NumberSix]

I agree with that. That doesn't mean that they don't believe it.
Ilhan Omar hasn

[qrich]

So you acknowledge that there is no proof of antisemitism from Ilhan.

And now you can't possibly refute that many many evangelical christians have the idiotic belief that donald trump is a "chosen one from god" who will help facilitate the rapture.

So because you can't refute that fact you're clinging to a new semantic-oriented angle focusing on the word "gathered." :oldlol:



Just stop dude.

Many many? That seems like it would be the vast majority.

Care to back that up?

[NumberSix]

Many many? That seems like it would be the vast majority.

Care to back that up?
He doesn’t think he has to back it up. He thinks the way it works is, he can just make this baseless claim and it’s my job to disprove it and if I don’t, then his baseless claim is by definition true.

That’s like me telling him that unless he can prove that Ilhan Omar wasn’t thinking anti-Semitic thoughts, then it’s true that she was.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump supporters are the equivalent of Hitler's SS.

[red1]

Many many? That seems like it would be the vast majority.

Care to back that up?
Im out and about right now, ill post them for you again later


And numbersix you cant disagree with a single thing I posted si you keep circling around the same shit. :oldlol:

[qrich]

Im out and about right now, ill post them for you again later


And numbersix you cant disagree with a single thing I posted si you keep circling around the same shit. :oldlol:

So you are doubling down on your claims that majority believe that?

[red1]

Alright children I'm back.

Numbersix you posted so many posts in this thread but you haven't made a single point - it's all been drivel. You outright acknowledged that there was no proof of her being antisemitic - nor is there proof of her not being antisemitic.

The point is that many parties were making that claim like they had proof - which is the problem. It was an unfounded fact.

Should we start pushing news stories because they may or may not be true? That would be ridiculous. And it's exactly what happened in this case.

[red1]

So you are doubling down on your claims that majority believe that?
I never once said the majority believes that. How can I double down on something that I didn't say in the first place.

Numbersix brought up the fact that many christians blindly support israel - and among them many of those evangelical christians do it because they literally believe that's what god wants them to do, because that's how they'll get to heaven. And I'm sorry I find that funny. It is what it is.


Turn on any evangelical station and you'll hear them preaching god wants trump this and that 24/7. We have a satellite connection and we hear this in the lounge at work coming from Buffalo NY stations even....


https://qz.com/1270516/jerusalem-embassy-trumps-foreign-policy-looks-like-rapture-christians-plan-to-trigger-apocalypse/



https://www.people-press.org/2010/06/22/section-3-war-terrorism-and-global-trends/

[red1]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]He doesn

[NumberSix]

Alright children I'm back.

Numbersix you posted so many posts in this thread but you haven't made a single point - it's all been drivel. You outright acknowledged that there was no proof of her being antisemitic - nor is there proof of her not being antisemitic.
Of course I outright acknowledged that. I have never claimed that her position on lobbying is antisemitic. Quite the opposite. We

[NumberSix]

My point has been consistent from the beginning. Ilhan Omar antisemitism story was fake news the same way the russian collusion story was fake news.
Why do you keep bringing this up? How many times do we have to agree about this for you to accept that we agree about this?

[red1]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Of course I outright acknowledged that. I have never claimed that her position on lobbying is antisemitic. Quite the opposite. We

[qrich]

I never once said the majority believes that. How can I double down on something that I didn't say in the first place.

Numbersix brought up the fact that many christians blindly support israel - and among them many of those evangelical christians do it because they literally believe that's what god wants them to do, because that's how they'll get to heaven. And I'm sorry I find that funny. It is what it is.


Turn on any evangelical station and you'll hear them preaching god wants trump this and that 24/7. We have a satellite connection and we hear this in the lounge at work coming from Buffalo NY stations even....

So "many many" isn't the majority? What is it?

[red1]

Why do you keep bringing this up? How many times do we have to agree about this for you to accept that we agree about this?
Because I didn't get that acknowledgement, that the story was fake all along.

Why wouldn't I keep bringing it up?

[red1]

So "many many" isn't the majority? What is it?
I don't know, you look at the stats for evangelical christians yourself. My argument was never that most trump supporters are evangelical christians.


And yes, many many does not necessarily mean the majority.

[qrich]

I don't know, you look at the stats for evangelical christians yourself. My argument was never that most trump supporters are evangelical christians.


And yes, many many does not necessarily mean the majority.

Many implies more than half... doubling down on that leads to the implication of majority.

I'd say the % of people that actually believe what you claim the many many do is around 5%, even in that community. Maybe 10%, and that is a far cry from "many, many."

[red1]

Many implies more than half... doubling down on that leads to the implication of majority.

I'd say the % of people that actually believe what you claim the many many do is around 5%, even in that community. Maybe 10%, and that is a far cry from "many, many."
Look man. You responded to one of my posts the point I was making is that many many christians support what they hear about trump and israel because they think that's what god wants.

I'm not saying it's good, I'm not saying it's bad. Who knows maybe it's good. I don't know.


All I'm saying is that it is absolutely laughable. Let's be real here - americans generally speaking aren't that informed on world events. Which is fine. They have a lot happening domestically.


The fact that Jesus wanted Trump to appoint Israel as the capital - the pussygrabber in chief banging pornstars while his pregnant wife is at home is now a christian crusader - I'm sorry dude that's ****ing funny like it or not :roll:

[qrich]

Saying many many for something that barely any believe is like saying "many many Muslims support 9/11 and terrorism."

[red1]

Saying many many for something that barely any believe is like saying "many many Muslims support 9/11 and terrorism."
Are you kidding me? I don't think you understand what I'm saying.


I never said many trump supporters support Israel because they think god wants them to. I said many evangelical christian supporters support Israel because they think god wants them to.


That's not even debatable. Read before you post.