LeBron is the only Laker with a BPM above 1.7

[Rico2016]

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Why

[The Iron Fist]

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[Rico2016]

Why

Does any other team have their number two option at 1.7 BPM

[superduper]

Bran stans literally know nothing about basketball

[BigKobeFan]

Bran also is the only laker that gets pushed to play defense.

[SpaceJam2]

Anyone?

[AirBonner]

Rico show some mercy and put that 3rd leg back in your trousers :biggums:

[SpaceJam2]

Rico show some mercy and put that 3rd leg back in your trousers :biggums:

I love when the haters get silenced like this

Haters: Bron don't play no defense! Ingram is an elite defender

*Facts are provided, proving the opposite

Haters:

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[AirBonner]

I love when the haters get silenced like this

Haters: Bron don't play no defense! Ingram is an elite defender

*Facts are provided, proving the opposite

Haters:

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Agree. Proof is in the girth

[MJistheGOAT]

" ... There are limitations on all box score stats – if the box score doesn't measure a particular contribution, a box-score-based metric can only approximate that contribution. This is not a great hindrance on the offensive side, as nearly everything of importance on offense is captured by the box score (only missing things like screen-setting), but on defense the box score is quite limited. Blocks, steals, and rebounds, along with minutes and what little information offensive numbers yield about defensive performance are all that is available. Such critical components of defense as positioning, communication, and the other factors that make Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan elite on defense can't be captured, unfortunately.

What does this mean? Box Plus/Minus is good at measuring offense and solid overall, but the defensive numbers in particular should not be considered definitive. Look at the defensive values as a guide, but don't hesitate to discount them when a player is well known as a good or bad defender ..."

[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]" ... There are limitations on all box score stats

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]" ... There are limitations on all box score stats

[And1AllDay]

Agree completely. I only take the stats as a guide. Lebron is well known as GOAT so I don't hesitate to discount the stats when they say otherwise.

Yeah what was he saying trying to give Bran extra props becos thats what you are doing :oldlol:

[Phoenix]

I understand what you are saying

No you don't.

[Big164]

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[LostCause]

Just for reference, Klay Thompson's BPM is -0.9. Last season it was -0.6. In 2016 it was barely positive.

Had he been on this Lakers team, you guys would be saying how bad he is offensively and defensively citing BPM.

Another reference - San Antonio only has 1 player with a BPM over 1.5. His name is Jakob Poetl. I don't see threads being made about that Spurs team

Anyway, BPM favors stat stuffers far more than roleplayers. Lakers have a lot of quality roleplayers who won't fill up a stat sheet, but do what they do fairly well.

[NBASTATMAN]

LEBRON LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE THE GOAT..


Dude was injured and has played over 56k minutes yet his defensive ratings are better than KD in KD's prime.. :bowdown: :applause: :roll: :banana: :party: :hammertime:


http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/5

[sbw19]

LeBron -4.3
Ingram -3.4
Kuzma -0.2
McGee 0.9

BPM of Laker players during that key 7-game stretch (lost 6/7) which sealed the Lakers playoff fate.
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They lost because they didn't play defense. End of story. As with most (advanced) stats, BPM numbers are results, not causes.

[MJistheGOAT]

It s amazing the low iq analysis of the BPM stat.

Lebron has been statpadding and reaching numbers as high as his peak years in the offensive side of the court, and we all know he is not in peak form --> high BPM.

Lebron has been an absolute negative in defense, specially in all the things NOT measured by BPM (help defense, positioning, transition, leadership, etc) --> not reflected in his high BPM, but yes in team defense, record and eye test.

[AirTupac]

Anyone arguing LeBron was not a huge negative on the defensive end is a joke.

[Phoenix]

Just for reference, Klay Thompson's BPM is -0.9. Last season it was -0.6. In 2016 it was barely positive.

Had he been on this Lakers team, you guys would be saying how bad he is offensively and defensively citing BPM.

Another reference - San Antonio only has 1 player with a BPM over 1.5. His name is Jakob Poetl. I don't see threads being made about that Spurs team

Anyway, BPM favors stat stuffers far more than roleplayers. Lakers have a lot of quality roleplayers who won't fill up a stat sheet, but do what they do fairly well.

Some of these posters( or *poster* and his 50 alts) are just singling out stats and saying 'here you go'. Understanding the application and context of those stats? That's another story.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Anything with box score elements? Well, you'd be surprised NOT to see LeBron there

Nobody can stuff a stat sheet quite like LeBron. Harden and Westbrook would obviously differ :oldlol:

[Phoenix]

It s amazing the low iq analysis of the BPM stat.

Lebron has been statpadding and reaching numbers as high as his peak years in the offensive side of the court, and we all know he is not in peak form --> high BPM.

Lebron has been an absolute negative in defense, specially in all the things NOT measured by BPM (help defense, positioning, transition, leadership, etc) --> not reflected in his high BPM, but yes in team defense, record and eye test.

It's like people arguing that he was as good last year as he was back in 2013. 'The numbers' show it on offense.

[Manny98]

It s amazing the low iq analysis of the BPM stat.

Lebron has been statpadding and reaching numbers as high as his peak years in the offensive side of the court, and we all know he is not in peak form --> high BPM.

Lebron has been an absolute negative in defense, specially in all the things NOT measured by BPM (help defense, positioning, transition, leadership, etc) --> not reflected in his high BPM, but yes in team defense, record and eye test.
LeBron has been a positive in every defensive metric this season

stfu clown you Jordan stans don't know shit about todays game

[AirTupac]

LeBron has been the biggest reason for our defensive woes....

Do you watch the godamn games? He lets his man blow by all the time, he refuses to move, he gets caught ball watching way too many times, he complains to the team when someone doesn't help on HIS guy that he fked up on. Manny you are really stupid. Go back to the philpines.

[TheCorporation]

It's amazing how quiet haters become when facts come out

Where dey at doe

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[SpaceJam2]

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Why

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[Manny98]

LeBron has been the biggest reason for our defensive woes....

Do you watch the godamn games? He lets his man blow by all the time, he refuses to move, he gets caught ball watching way too many times, he complains to the team when someone doesn't help on HIS guy that he fked up on. Manny you are really stupid. Go back to the philpines.
It's already proven you don't watch basketball you clown

Lakers are statistically worse defensively when LeBron is not playing. So how can a player be a reason for a team being bad defensively when they're are even worse defensively when he doesn't play?

You LeBron haters aren't even making sense anymore

[SpaceJam2]

It's already proven you don't watch basketball you clown

Lakers are statistically worse defensively when LeBron is not playing. So how can a player be a reason for a team being bad defensively when they're are even worse defensively when he doesn't play?

You LeBron haters aren't even making sense anymore

Confirmed, the only starter with a higher DBPM than LeBron is McGee and the only other player is Chandler. For the whole team.