Wiggins gets pushed by his own Teammate into playing Defense

[sammichoffate]

https://streamable.com/xongg
:lol

[Rico2016]

Kuzma started a trend :lol

[E_Stamkos]

Should have aimed for his head

[FireDavidKahn]

I spit out my drink when I saw that live.

[Rico2016]

I spit out my drink when I saw that live.

:roll: :roll:

[Bronbron23]

Kuzma started a trend :lol
No he didn't it happens a fair bit in the NBA and in basketball in general. I tried to tell some of these idiots on here that obviously don't play or even watch basketball but they're in denial like most of the people on here.

[Smoke117]

Except there's a huge difference when LeBron is top 10 in all time mins played and 34 years old and this piece of trash Wiggins is 23 and in the prime of his youth.

[lilteapot]

Except there's a huge difference when LeBron is top 10 in all time mins played and 34 years old and this piece of trash Wiggins is 23 and in the prime of his youth.
:roll: yeah this is sad

[SpaceJam2]

Except there's a huge difference when LeBron is top 10 in all time mins played and 34 years old and this piece of trash Wiggins is 23 and in the prime of his youth.

:applause:

[FireDavidKahn]

Except there's a huge difference when LeBron is top 10 in all time mins played and 34 years old and this piece of trash Wiggins is 23 and in the prime of his youth.
Then add in the fact that a rookie did this to Wiggins.:oldlol: :oldlol:

[bullettooth]

No he didn't it happens a fair bit in the NBA and in basketball in general. I tried to tell some of these idiots on here that obviously don't play or even watch basketball but they're in denial like most of the people on here.

The last time it happened was over a month ago.

You're a lying sack of crap.

[Smoke117]

The complete lack of awareness is just pathetic. The most hilarious thing about Wiggins defensively is if nothing else he was projected to be elite on this end and instead he's an absolute sack of shit.

[SpaceJam2]

The complete lack of awareness is just pathetic. The most hilarious thing about Wiggins defensively is if nothing else he was projected to be elite on this end and instead he's an absolute sack of shit.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/05/pumped_kid.gif

[Smoke117]

Why couldn't I have been born athletic instead of handsome? I could be making a killing in the NBA if this turd Wiggins is any indication.

[sbw19]

What push? He barely touched him. Are we seriously comparing this to Kuzma's fan-fave-securing go-to-hell moment?

[Manny98]

No he didn't it happens a fair bit in the NBA and in basketball in general. I tried to tell some of these idiots on here that obviously don't play or even watch basketball but they're in denial like most of the people on here.
This its clear 90% of these clowns don't even watch basketball outside of the LeBron games

[Bronbron23]

The last time it happened was over a month ago.

You're a lying sack of crap.
The last time we seen it on a highlight was over a month ago. It doesn't mean it hasn't happened a few times since that you dumb fakkit. We've already seen 3 instances were this has happened this year so it obviously does happen. It's not a rare thing that's for sure.

[AirTupac]

If it happened so much, we would see it more on reddit (as this one has popped up) These LeBron mouth breathing retards are something else. Either way youre losing. LeBron is as bad on D as Wiggins is. Amazing!!!

[bullettooth]

The last time we seen it on a highlight was over a month ago. It doesn't mean it hasn't happened a few times since that you dumb fakkit. We've already seen 3 instances were this has happened this year so it obviously does happen. It's not a rare thing that's for sure.

Why do you lie?

[Bronbron23]

Why do you lie?
Where's the lie?We have seen this three times so far this year. The one with Wiggins. Mason plumb and LeBron. You've obviously seen the LeBron and wig one so here's the third. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_-4qfSdjw

[bullettooth]

Where's the lie?We have seen this three times so far this year. The one with Wiggins. Mason plumb and LeBron. You've obviously seen the LeBron and wig one so here's the third. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_-4qfSdjw

WOW! A whopping THREE times! Out of about 1,200 games!

You moron.

[Bronbron23]

If it happened so much, we would see it more on reddit (as this one has popped up) These LeBron mouth breathing retards are something else. Either way youre losing. LeBron is as bad on D as Wiggins is. Amazing!!!
Didn't say it happens "so much" just that it does in fact happen from time to time. It's not a rare thing at all. Coaches will do this to there players when trying to implement a new defence. They'll literally push them into position. I realize most of y'all haven't played competitive ball past highschool but I assure you it does happen. Here's another one. Could probably find more if I wanted to watch hours of tape but I really don't care that much. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_-4qfSdjw this one and the lebron one are more aggressive than most but a defender pushing another defender into defensive position is nothing new and again not a rare occurrence at all.

[AirTupac]

You keep posting the Plumlee one and its not even the same thing. So theres 2 videos in just 1 NBA season. Give me more. Give me examples of last season or any season. You stupid retard. I played college ball. Where did you play at? Youve said it happens often. Twice in one season, the other being Wiggins is a great argument... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Bronbron23]

You keep posting the Plumlee one and its not even the same thing. So theres 2 videos in just 1 NBA season. Give me more. Give me examples of last season or any season. You stupid retard. I played college ball. Where did you play at? Youve said it happens often. Twice in one season, the other being Wiggins is a great argument... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
How is the plum one not the same? Hes pushing his teammate into defensive position just like everyone else. You are truly in denial dude

[Bronbron23]

You keep posting the Plumlee one and its not even the same thing. So theres 2 videos in just 1 NBA season. Give me more. Give me examples of last season or any season. You stupid retard. I played college ball. Where did you play at? Youve said it happens often. Twice in one season, the other being Wiggins is a great argument... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Here's another example of a player pushing a teammate into position. Let me guess this one isn't the same either :facepalm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bixL5iLX0Lo

[Bronbron23]

WOW! A whopping THREE times! Out of about 1,200 games!

You moron.
Here's another one fakkit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bixL5iLX0Lo these casual fan ass fakkits. It's easy to tell real ballers from rec league dudes who've never played competitive ball at a high level. Anyone who's played competitively knows this shit does in fact happen enough that's it's not a rare occurrence.

[Overdrive]

You keep posting the Plumlee one and its not even the same thing. So theres 2 videos in just 1 NBA season. Give me more. Give me examples of last season or any season. You stupid retard. I played college ball. Where did you play at? Youve said it happens often. Twice in one season, the other being Wiggins is a great argument... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Community college paid beginners course?

[HoopologyPhD]

Wiggins is a max player with minimum heart. I have seen enough, he is a bust. Stupid canadian just happy to live in a big fancy warm US city like Minnesota.

[FKAri]

Here's another one fakkit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bixL5iLX0Lo these casual fan ass fakkits. It's easy to tell real ballers from rec league dudes who've never played competitive ball at a high level. Anyone who's played competitively knows this shit does in fact happen enough that's it's not a rare occurrence.
You're just a bran stan. Why should we take your word seriously?

[Bronbron23]

You're just a bran stan. Why should we take your word seriously?
I'm actually not a bran Stan at all I've stated on here many times that I think Kobe, mj, magic and Kareem are all better. I wouldn't even argue a few more like Russell duncan and possibly bird. How is that a Stan? Yes he's my favorite active player (although Greek is probably right there with him) but I'm hardly a Stan.

[MJistheGOAT]

Kuzma on Lebron was a lot worse.
Lebron is at minimum a top 10 GOAT, Wiggins is trash.
It s not a frequent thing in the NBA

[Bronbron23]

Community college paid beginners course?
I plaid cegep which is a college league and then cis. Canadian college and University arnt as good as NCAA but it's still a high level. I've played against NCAA players and NBA players in summer tourneys also. Based on the low iq comments on here Im willing to bet I've played on a higher level than most people on this forum.

[Bronbron23]

Kuzma on Lebron was a lot worse.
Lebron is at minimum a top 10 GOAT, Wiggins is trash.
It s not a frequent thing in the NBA
Yes I agree that it was worse with LeBron. Most players wouldn't do it to someone of brons status. As far as not happening frequently that depends on your definition. It doesn't happen every game or anything but it does happen enough that it's a big deal to see. It was only a big deal with LeBron because it's him and his defence has been shit lately

[MJistheGOAT]

Yes I agree that it was worse with LeBron. Most players wouldn't do it to someone of brons status. As far as not happening frequently that depends on your definition. It doesn't happen every game or anything but it does happen enough that it's a big deal to see. It was only a big deal with LeBron because it's him and his defence has been shit lately

What's your definition of "frequently"???
3 times a season???

[bullettooth]

Here's another one fakkit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bixL5iLX0Lo these casual fan ass fakkits. It's easy to tell real ballers from rec league dudes who've never played competitive ball at a high level. Anyone who's played competitively knows this shit does in fact happen enough that's it's not a rare occurrence.

Talks about how often this happens to downplay LeBron's pathetic defense...

...shows a rare clip from 2 years ago.

[PeroAntic]

Makes Lebron only look worse for being put in the same context as the worst player in the league, Andrew Wiggins.

[SpaceJam2]

Kuzma on Lebron was a lot worse.
Lebron is at minimum a top 10 GOAT, Wiggins is trash.
It s not a frequent thing in the NBA

Kyle Kuzma already said he thought it was KCP

[Bronbron23]

What's your definition of "frequently"???
3 times a season???
No but it has obviously happened more than 3 times. Just because there's only three highlights on YouTube of this happening it doesn't mean that that's the only times it's happened. If you went through every game played this season I bet you'd find more instances of it happening. It doesn't matter though. I could put 20 examples of it happening and you guys would just deny it. At first it was the lebron one was the only time it's happened. Now there's been 2 other known times it's happened this year and people on here just deny it even though it's on video.

[Bronbron23]

Talks about how often this happens to downplay LeBron's pathetic defense...

...shows a rare clip from 2 years ago.
Ive never down played LeBron's defence, it's absolutely terrible. The clip was just to show another example of it and to show that this kind of thing happens a fair bit. It's by no means a rarity. Anyone whos played high level competitive ball knows this.

[sbw19]

If we're playing footage of summer league we know voilently shoving a teammate to play defense isn't common occurance. Come on now.


And forget LeBron for a moment. The inherent disrespect alone dictates veterans (even regular vet dudes) don't get shoved into playing defense period, let alone by very young players. And it being the face of the league on the receiving end of all people, and in a must-win game? That's not normal.


On lower level ball, to nobody's, sure I buy it happens much more frequently. NBA level, esp happening to veterans, shoved like that? Never seen it. Sorry.


In fact I'd say violently shoving even a young teammate like that in the NBA is no more common than a bat/hawk stopping a game judging by footage shown so far.

Either way you look at it, it's disgraceful and nothing to brush aside.

[Bronbron23]

If we're playing footage of summer league we know voilently shoving a teammate to play defense isn't common occurance. Come on now.


And forget LeBron for a moment. The inherent disrespect alone dictates veterans (even regular vet dudes) don't get shoved into playing defense period, let alone by very young players. And it being the face of the league on the receiving end of all people, and in a must-win game? That's not normal.


On lower level ball, to nobody's, sure I buy it happens much more frequently. NBA level, esp happening to veterans, shoved like that? Never seen it. Sorry.


In fact I'd say violently shoving even a young teammate like that in the NBA is no more common than a bat/hawk stopping a game judging by footage shown so far.

Either way you look at it, it's disgraceful and nothing to brush aside.

The argument was never about violently pushing someone to the ground. It was just that players will at times push/guide a teammate into defensive position for whatever reason. Maybe it's because there out of position. Maybe it's because a player dosnt have time to fight through a screen and it's easier to push his teammate who's closer to the offensive player. Whatever the reason it does infact happen. The summer league footage was just another example. There are 3 there NBA videos from this year showing it also. Just because there only 4 videos of this happening it doesn't mean it hasn't happen more often which I assure you it has(way more than a bat or hawk btw)

And no it doesn't usually happen to someone of LeBron's status. I've already said that it wasn't a good look for him especially the way he's been playing defence the last few years. The argument was never about wether it's a bad look for LeBron. I just said this kind of thing happens fairly often and some people on here disagree. I already showed 4 videos of it happening. I could show 20 and it wouldn't matter though. People on here just believe what they want to believe no matter what proof you give them.

[sbw19]

The argument was never about violently pushing someone to the ground. It was just that players will at times push/guide a teammate into defensive position for whatever reason.Can you show us a video of a veteran player getting shoved like LeBron was? Just one?

A player getting shoved like that is NOT a common occurance in the NBA. That's pretty much all it should boil down to. One could argue milder versions of it do happen more frequently, all the time even, but that's really impertinent because it's not the same thing.

[HoopologyPhD]

His teammates should push him towards the dentist...

[Bronbron23]

Can you show us a video of a veteran player getting shoved like LeBron was? Just one?

A player getting shoved like that is NOT a common occurance in the NBA. That's pretty much all it should boil down to. One could argue milder versions of it do happen more frequently, all the time even, but that's really impertinent because it's not the same thing.

No I cant but I said from the get that it was a bad look for LeBron because of that fact. Again that was never the argument. The argument was that players do in fact get pushed or shoved into defensive position enough that it's not a shock to see. They may not always get pushed as hard as the clips I've shown but it does happen as you say in a milder way. In this case it was only a shock because of who it was and because he was pushed pretty hard. Ive never argued that fact.

This all started from the kuzma pushes LeBron thread and I said exactly this then and a bunch of people argued that it doesn't happen

[VIDEO] Kuzma PUSHES LeBron into playing Defense
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
Post 5 instances where a star player is pushed by his teammate to play defense.
This is a play that no one would notice of it weren't LeBron so there's not gonna be any clips of guys pushing guys towards a defender. Of have to watch probably 20 games to find 5 instances and I don't care that much just to prove a stupid point. This certainly does happen a fair amount in competitive bball. I've never seen it happen to someone of brons caliber though and not sure if I ever ever seen a push that hard but it does happen. You've probably never played competitive ball of you think it doesn't