looking back at it with hindsight. the 2008 "redeem" team sucked after kobe and wade

[kennethgriffen]

overrated ass Carlos Boozer?

washed up jason kidd?

chokin ass bran?

flash in the pan Deron Williams?

1 time allstar Michael Redd?

22 year old baby Dwight Coward?

41-41 raptors Chris Bosh?

23 year old CP3?

0 time allstar 13ppg tayshaun prince?




ok i guess melo was pretty good at the time... but after those 3 guys it was a team of raw kids, hasbeens, fluky 1 time stars and role players


no wonder kobe had to save them vs Spain

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2008/08/24/sports/olympics/600-bball.jpg

[kennethgriffen]

do they have any trouble vs spain if they sent kevin garnett, tim duncan, paul pierce, shaq and other more established vets?

[Dr Hawk]

https://youtu.be/fhpVE5Yfvhc

[paksat]

kenneth you talking about that guy that shot like dog shit all tournament?

let's compare wades and kobes numbers :lol

[brooks_thompson]

They were the two best players, yes. However, Kidd wasn't decrepit, it was a full 3 years before his Mavs championship, and Howard and Paul were already established as stars even if they were young.

[SouBeachTalents]

Absolutely terrible

Future MVP LeBron

Future DPOY Dwight

Runner up MVP CP3

They only had what would become the 5 best players in the league the following season

[SpaceJam2]

Absolutely terrible

Future MVP LeBron

Future DPOY Dwight

Runner up MVP CP3

They only had what would become the 5 best players in the league the following season

:lol

At this point I really feel like Kenny is purposely trying to ether himself in every thread he creates or posts in :roll:

[Hey Yo]

overrated ass Carlos Boozer?

washed up jason kidd?

chokin ass bran?

flash in the pan Deron Williams?

1 time allstar Michael Redd?

22 year old baby Dwight Coward?

41-41 raptors Chris Bosh?

23 year old CP3?

0 time allstar 13ppg tayshaun prince?
The same guy that held Kobe to 38% shooting in the biggest upset in NBA Finals history?

[SamuraiSWISH]

do they have any trouble vs spain if they sent kevin garnett, tim duncan, paul pierce, shaq and other more established vets?
They didn’t have trouble vs Spain when they had Calderon before the Gold Medal Game. Officiating purposely saddled Team USA with foul calls to start the game to stifle their suffocating perimeter defense.

And WTF you smoking?

Kobe - Ending Prime
Wade - Prime / Peak
LeBron - Starting Prime
CP3 - Prime
Deron - Prime / Peak
Dwight - Starting Prime

If they also had KG, Duncan, Ray Allen, Pierce they would be even more dominant. As it stands it’s the third best Team USA with professionals ever.

1) 1992
2) 1996 (sub MJ for Stockton and it’s ridiculous, easy the best)
3) 2008
4) 2012
5) 2000

[sdot_thadon]

Kenny, whatever you be smoking......don't share it please.:oldlol: You had no less than 5 guys playing really well there despite reduced roles to all. You had 2 perimeter guys shoot over 60% for the tournament. Kidd was dominant without scoring almost ever. Kobe is actually one of the only top guys on the team that played exactly how he played in the nba. 40 something % shooting, good defense. And he was absolutely great one game. And give it up to him he hit the biggest shot in the gold medal game. Wade was far and away the best player there.

[red1]

that was a stacked team you moron. look at the competition.



and your agenda fails because wade was unstoppable and was the best player on that team.

[scuzzy]

08 Olympics delivered us an actual iconic big game high stakes Kobe moment. Unfortunately it came directly at the end of Wade and Lebron's two week long globetrotting real.

That 4th qt was deeply emotional to Kobe stans because for 7.75 games earlier the world watched 23yo Lebron and Wade outshine peak Kobe in every metric. Scoring, shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, efficiency, playmaking, impact. Everything. Kobe looked like a flat out role player next; bricking 3's, camping in the high post, sloppy turnovers, . Exactly what you'd get from a role player. Just underwhelming all tournament.

Finally hitting those 4th quarter shots against Spain was major diaper relief and critical to his followers survival

You gotta remember, Kobe just came off a 50 point blowout Finals piping by Eddie House and Leon Powe. Prior too, clotheslined by Raja, then 3-1 NashVP, then missing playoffs, and of course Larry Brown's "let Kobe chuck" 04 Finals masterplan. Bundle that context with a fresh updated 0/55. Ouch

I almost felt bad Coach K kept letting Dwade ride out Kobe's minutes :lol

[And1AllDay]

08 Olympics delivered us an actual iconic big game high stakes Kobe moment. Unfortunately it came directly at the end of Wade and Lebron's two week long globetrotting real.

That 4th qt was deeply emotional to Kobe stans because for 7.75 games earlier the world watched 23yo Lebron and Wade outshine peak Kobe in every metric. Scoring, shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, efficiency, playmaking, impact. Everything. Kobe looked like a flat out role player next; bricking 3's, camping in the high post, sloppy turnovers, . Exactly what you'd get from a role player. Just underwhelming all tournament.

Finally hitting those 4th quarter shots against Spain was major diaper relief and critical to his followers survival

You gotta remember, Kobe just came off a 50 point blowout Finals piping by Eddie House and Leon Powe. Prior too, clotheslined by Raja, then 3-1 NashVP, then missing playoffs, and of course Larry Brown's "let Kobe chuck" 04 Finals masterplan. Bundle that context with a fresh updated 0/55. Ouch

I almost felt bad Coach K kept letting Dwade ride out Kobe's minutes :lol

:eek: :eek:

[kennethgriffen]

Absolutely terrible

Future MVP LeBron

Future DPOY Dwight

Runner up MVP CP3

They only had what would become the 5 best players in the league the following season

you mean a future and current choker

a future and current 1 dimensional overrated softy

a stat padding all time historic choker

and 2 of those "5 best players" were only looked at as top 5 because of the conference they played in

the other was preparing for a career long journey of choking in the biggest moments

well guess what was the biggest moment that they needed kobe to bail them out of




they had talent yes. but a lot of unproven unmotivated unreliable talent


kobe and wade were really the only 2 guys with even somewhat of a proven legacy that were worthy of their selections



didn't every team usa member admit that they were just gonna mail it in defensively again if not for kobes hustle on loose balls that inspired them. they woulda lost another gold had kobe skipped the tournament

[kennethgriffen]

08 Olympics delivered us an actual iconic big game high stakes Kobe moment. Unfortunately it came directly at the end of Wade and Lebron's two week long globetrotting real.

That 4th qt was deeply emotional to Kobe stans because for 7.75 games earlier the world watched 23yo Lebron and Wade outshine peak Kobe in every metric. Scoring, shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, efficiency, playmaking, impact. Everything. Kobe looked like a flat out role player next; bricking 3's, camping in the high post, sloppy turnovers, . Exactly what you'd get from a role player. Just underwhelming all tournament.

Finally hitting those 4th quarter shots against Spain was major diaper relief and critical to his followers survival

You gotta remember, Kobe just came off a 50 point blowout Finals piping by Eddie House and Leon Powe. Prior too, clotheslined by Raja, then 3-1 NashVP, then missing playoffs, and of course Larry Brown's "let Kobe chuck" 04 Finals masterplan. Bundle that context with a fresh updated 0/55. Ouch

I almost felt bad Coach K kept letting Dwade ride out Kobe's minutes :lol


howd that "globetrotting reel*" end in 2004 and 2006


flashy dunks and run away victories over scrub teams is nice. but its how you close and where you ultimately finish

[RRR3]

Anyone remember the 2012 Olympics where LeBron dominated the whole tournament and was the unquestioned leader, while Kobe was regulated to a garbage time chucker? Kenny certainly has purposefully forgotten.

[kennethgriffen]

Anyone remember the 2012 Olympics where LeBron dominated the whole tournament and was the unquestioned leader, while Kobe was regulated to a garbage time chucker? Kenny certainly has purposefully forgotten.

by 2012 the international teams were all washed up playing guys that were competing since 2000 internationally


and 4 years is a huge difference when you're talking about guys that are mostly 22/23 from 2008


by 2012 they're all prime. no shit they'll win


i was referring to the fact that these guys were unproven babies, chokers, 1 hit wonders, washed up hasbeens and role players in 2008


ofcourse all but 4 of them ended up hall of famers. but the timing was everything. kobe had to save the babies from another bronze

[paksat]

08 Olympics delivered us an actual iconic big game high stakes Kobe moment. Unfortunately it came directly at the end of Wade and Lebron's two week long globetrotting real.

That 4th qt was deeply emotional to Kobe stans because for 7.75 games earlier the world watched 23yo Lebron and Wade outshine peak Kobe in every metric. Scoring, shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, efficiency, playmaking, impact. Everything. Kobe looked like a flat out role player next; bricking 3's, camping in the high post, sloppy turnovers, . Exactly what you'd get from a role player. Just underwhelming all tournament.

Finally hitting those 4th quarter shots against Spain was major diaper relief and critical to his followers survival

You gotta remember, Kobe just came off a 50 point blowout Finals piping by Eddie House and Leon Powe. Prior too, clotheslined by Raja, then 3-1 NashVP, then missing playoffs, and of course Larry Brown's "let Kobe chuck" 04 Finals masterplan. Bundle that context with a fresh updated 0/55. Ouch

I almost felt bad Coach K kept letting Dwade ride out Kobe's minutes :lol

God help you kenneth

[Young X]

What does that say about the league then? The Lakers won 2 championships in that era and Kobe won an MVP.

For years Kobe stans have been arguing MJ played in a weak era. Well what about Kobe's?

Kobe faced a Magic team with Dwight Coward as by far it's best player.

Kobe faced a Jazz team in the playoffs with flash in the pan Deron Williams as it's PG.

Kobe won his only MVP over 23 year old CP3.

Kobe got locked up by Tayshaun in the finals.

Kobe lost an MVP to chokin ass bran.

[FKAri]

08 Olympics delivered us an actual iconic big game high stakes Kobe moment. Unfortunately it came directly at the end of Wade and Lebron's two week long globetrotting real.

That 4th qt was deeply emotional to Kobe stans because for 7.75 games earlier the world watched 23yo Lebron and Wade outshine peak Kobe in every metric. Scoring, shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, efficiency, playmaking, impact. Everything. Kobe looked like a flat out role player next; bricking 3's, camping in the high post, sloppy turnovers, . Exactly what you'd get from a role player. Just underwhelming all tournament.

Finally hitting those 4th quarter shots against Spain was major diaper relief and critical to his followers survival

You gotta remember, Kobe just came off a 50 point blowout Finals piping by Eddie House and Leon Powe. Prior too, clotheslined by Raja, then 3-1 NashVP, then missing playoffs, and of course Larry Brown's "let Kobe chuck" 04 Finals masterplan. Bundle that context with a fresh updated 0/55. Ouch

I almost felt bad Coach K kept letting Dwade ride out Kobe's minutes :lol
See people think Kobe's clutch gameplay saved the final game. That's what they wanted us to believe.

In reality, coach K and the players wanted everyone to step back so Kobe could have his shine so bad that they almost lost to Spain. Kobe getting burned by amateurs on D and shooting abysmally the whole tournament needed to be swept under a rug.

This was my favorite sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZh2eK5Mo-o
Kobe plays shit D as usual but blames Howard. The moment that dunk happens the first thing Doug Collins does is call out Kobe. Kobe continues arguing with Howard on the FT line. A couple plays letter the fix is in. Rudy Fernandez is fouled out of the game on a phantom call guarding Kobe. The guy lighting his ass on fire is told to **** off and Kobe gets his clutch moment. Kobe saves the USA!

[Smoke117]

overrated ass Carlos Boozer?

washed up jason kidd?

chokin ass bran?

flash in the pan Deron Williams?

1 time allstar Michael Redd?

22 year old baby Dwight Coward?

41-41 raptors Chris Bosh?

23 year old CP3?

0 time allstar 13ppg tayshaun prince?



]


Are you retarded? CP3 had legitimately possibly put up the greatest pg season ever. He averaged 22.8ppg 11.0apg 2.7apg on only 2.5topg. He had a .599%ts, 30.0per and led the league in winshares/per48. Stupid clown.

[RRR3]

See people think Kobe's clutch gameplay saved the final game. That's what they wanted us to believe.

In reality, coach K and the players wanted everyone to step back so Kobe could have his shine so bad that they almost lost to Spain. Kobe getting burned by amateurs on D and shooting abysmally the whole tournament needed to be swept under a rug.

This was my favorite sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZh2eK5Mo-o
Kobe plays shit D as usual but blames Howard. The moment that dunk happens the first thing Doug Collins does is call out Kobe. Kobe continues arguing with Howard on the FT line. A couple plays letter the fix is in. Rudy Fernandez is fouled out of the game on a phantom call guarding Kobe. The guy lighting his ass on fire is told to **** off and Kobe gets his clutch moment. Kobe saves the USA!
Kenny absolutely bodybagged.

[sdot_thadon]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/blogs.comedycentral.com-production/wp-content/uploads/sites/58/2014/09/408_KennyDeaths.gif

[red1]

Anyone remember the 2012 Olympics where LeBron dominated the whole tournament and was the unquestioned leader, while Kobe was regulated to a garbage time chucker? Kenny certainly has purposefully forgotten.
:oldlol:

[RRR3]

:oldlol:
Just realized I typed “regulated” when I meant “relegated” lmao

[Manny98]

LeBron had more

Points
Rebounds
Assists
Steals
Blocks

Than BrickBe in the 08 Olympics

Kobe was the third wing on that team :roll:

[scuzzy]

See people think Kobe's clutch gameplay saved the final game. That's what they wanted us to believe.

In reality, coach K and the players wanted everyone to step back so Kobe could have his shine so bad that they almost lost to Spain. Kobe getting burned by amateurs on D and shooting abysmally the whole tournament needed to be swept under a rug.

This was my favorite sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZh2eK5Mo-o
Kobe plays shit D as usual but blames Howard. The moment that dunk happens the first thing Doug Collins does is call out Kobe. Kobe continues arguing with Howard on the FT line. A couple plays letter the fix is in. Rudy Fernandez is fouled out of the game on a phantom call guarding Kobe. The guy lighting his ass on fire is told to **** off and Kobe gets his clutch moment. Kobe saves the USA!

All those weeks prior leading up, hyping Kobe's team role as primary defender and team leader. :oldlol: Quality damage control insurance

Reality, immediate tunnel vision and hoisting 3's. So many 3's. Wide open 3's. One of his career worst brick benders, gracefully painted over by the 2003 draft class

The teams vocals, all JKidd and Lebron

And opposing teams best players were all forwards and bigs. (Gasols, Dirks, AK's, Yao's, etc).

It was suppose to be Kobe's 1st big Olympic coming out party, but he was disengaged and uninvolved without the ball. And when Wade sub'd in, it brought a way different pace, energy and momentum shift. So many big plays on D, leading to fast break points. Him and LBJ were demoralizing teams in the open court off turnovers.

No wonder they began fapping each other off to team up. :confusedshrug: The OG collusion committee secretly formed and held their first meeting right there in Chinatown :applause: