is it arguable lebron was never the best player in the nba

[kennethgriffen]

dominant statistically yes. but a complete 2 way polished fundamental highly skilled wizard on the basketball court?


hell no


for me that title belongs to


2004 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2005 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2006 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2007 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2008 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett/Paul
2009 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Paul
2010 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2011 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2012 - Kobe/Paul/Durant
2013 - Durant/Paul/George
2014 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2015 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2016 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis
2017 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis
2018 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis/Embiid
2019 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Giannis/Embiid

[kennethgriffen]

IMO you need to play defense, hit free throws, mid range, post up, have counters, footwork, many offensive go to moves etc... in order to be the best player

[knicksman]

if lebron is really good, he wouldnt be needing those stats to prove himself. Coz stats are for the insecures. And the result speaks for itself. Shrinks in crunch time so he needs superteams to win. And stil got 3/9

[iamgine]

Best in skill? Perhaps never.

Best in impact on the floor? Yes.

[ArbitraryWater]

With this, it's like you're trying to tell us you're retarded.

[kennethgriffen]

Best in skill? Perhaps never.

Best in impact on the floor? Yes.


i dunno about that.. because defense is a way of impacting the game...


even if you value defense less i'd go with:


2004 - shaq
2005 - duncan
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe
2011 - dirk
2012 - lebron
2013 - kobe
2014 - durant
2015 - curry
2016 - kyrie
2017 - durant
2018 - durant
2019 - giannis


i guess you could argue 1 year for lebron... 2012 was the only year i would truly count on lebron to take me home. before that he was shook and after that he quit playing defense and quit posting up



all those guys i listed would be the 1st pick if i was drafting a team for that specific season

[knicksman]

Best in skill? Perhaps never.

Best in impact on the floor? Yes.


if its gross then lebron but net impact(gross - reduced impact by teammates due to conflict of roles)? then lebron isnt one of the best. Kobe won 65 in the much tougher west while lebrons max is 66 in the weaker east.

[knicksman]

With this, it's like you're trying to tell us you're retarded.

i know its hard for you guys to understand basketball beyond stats.

[SpaceJam]

Curry having Bron in his top 5 and not Kobe really pushed you over the edge bro.

We saw the cracks starting to form with that tanker shit but now it’s all out in the open

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=SpaceJam]Curry having Bron in his top 5 and not Kobe really pushed you over the edge bro.

We saw the cracks starting to form with that tanker shit but now it

[Gileraracer]

Lebron without at least 2 other superstars didn't achieve much besides some empty stats. So yes, this is true.

[Sakkreth]

It's only arguable by complete morons, so yeah you are right in a way.

[ArbitraryWater]

i dunno about that.. because defense is a way of impacting the game...


even if you value defense less i'd go with:


2004 - shaq
2005 - duncan
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe
2011 - dirk
2012 - lebron
2013 - kobe
2014 - durant
2015 - curry
2016 - kyrie
2017 - durant
2018 - durant
2019 - giannis


i guess you could argue 1 year for lebron... 2012 was the only year i would truly count on lebron to take me home. before that he was shook and after that he quit playing defense and quit posting up



all those guys i listed would be the 1st pick if i was drafting a team for that specific season


Again, you're screaming "I'm retarded"

[superduper]

I play basketball on paper so I'm sorry OP, but I'm going to have to disagree 100%

$tats.

[SouBeachTalents]

The ironic thing is you could legit make this claim about Kobe :oldlol:

But nah, a 4x MVP/3x FMVP/12x All-NBA First Team was never the best player in the league

[superduper]

4x MVP/3x FMVP

Media opinions


12x All-NBA First Team

In that case Kobe is BY FAR the greatest defensive guard of all time

[SpaceJam2]

Damn, Ranker 11be really got you ****ed up :lol

[SpaceJam2]

With this, it's like you're trying to tell us you're retarded.

It's like his 8,000th coming out party :lol

[Jacques Webster]

Kenny trying to do every possible thing he can to turn everyone against LeBron.

Another failure, just like him as a dad.

[tpols]

The problem is people never considered what he subtracted from others to get his production... Even with super teams bran has been owned by an ancient Duncan and baby faced 175 lb guy... Because they got theirs while enhancing others. It's just a media trick if you think he was the best.

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn, some people on here legitimately believe LeBron was never the best player in the world. This place truly is the twilight zone

[sdot_thadon]

This is gold :oldlol:
Op is losing his shit one post at a time.

[Big164]

Last 25 Years

1994 Dream
1995 Dream
1996 MJ
1997 MJ
1998 MJ
1999 Shaq
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Shaq
2005 Duncan
2006 Kobe
2007 Duncan
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Steph
2016 Steph
2017 KD
2018 KD
2019 ???

[Shaquille O'Neal]

dominant statistically yes. but a complete 2 way polished fundamental highly skilled wizard on the basketball court?


hell no


for me that title belongs to


2004 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2005 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2006 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2007 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2008 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett/Paul
2009 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Paul
2010 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2011 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2012 - Kobe/Paul/Durant
2013 - Durant/Paul/George
2014 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2015 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2016 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis
2017 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis
2018 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis/Embiid
2019 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Giannis/Embiid



Impact wise, Lebron was very good since around 2008.


From a pure skills perspective, I'm not sure Lebron's in the top 10 in the past 15 years.
Not the greatest dribbler, hasn't improved or gotten a great post game. Mid range shooting below average. Free throws down to 66%. Few counter moves, not amazing footwoork.
Basically 90% of his "skills" rely on size, strength and athleticism.


I can think easily of 10 players with more pure "skill" that played this year:
Wade
Curry
KD
Kyrie
Harden
CP3
Paul George
Olidipo
Donovan Mitchell
Kawhi


Lebron's "skills" once you take away the muscle, size and jumping ability are all far below these players. Kobe, who I hate, $hits all over him from a pure skills perspective.
In the open court with a head a steam Lebron makes good decisions and is hard to stop. Slow it down to half court - if he's not surrounded by amazing shooters he's not winning - no ball movement, and lack of pure shooting can't be overcome just by being a musclehead.

[FKAri]

Impact wise, Lebron was very good since around 2008.


From a pure skills perspective, I'm not sure Lebron's in the top 10 in the past 15 years.
Not the greatest dribbler, hasn't improved or gotten a great post game. Mid range shooting below average. Free throws down to 66%. Few counter moves, not amazing footwoork.
Basically 90% of his "skills" rely on size, strength and athleticism.


I can think easily of 10 players with more pure "skill" that played this year:
Wade
Curry
KD
Kyrie
Harden
CP3
Paul George
Olidipo
Donovan Mitchell
Kawhi


Lebron's "skills" once you take away the muscle, size and jumping ability are all far below these players. Kobe, who I hate, $hits all over him from a pure skills perspective.
In the open court with a head a steam Lebron makes good decisions and is hard to stop. Slow it down to half court - if he's not surrounded by amazing shooters he's not winning - no ball movement, and lack of pure shooting can't be overcome just by being a musclehead.
There's a lot more than 10 my man. The top 10 most skilled players in the NBA would include exactly 0 forwards anyways. They might all be PGs. Heck Lou Will would be over any forward in the league.

[Hey Yo]

Impact wise, Lebron was very good since around 2008.


From a pure skills perspective, I'm not sure Lebron's in the top 10 in the past 15 years.
Not the greatest dribbler, hasn't improved or gotten a great post game. Mid range shooting below average. Free throws down to 66%. Few counter moves, not amazing footwoork.
Basically 90% of his "skills" rely on size, strength and athleticism.


I can think easily of 10 players with more pure "skill" that played this year:
Wade
Curry
KD
Kyrie
Harden
CP3
Paul George
Olidipo
Donovan Mitchell
Kawhi


Lebron's "skills" once you take away the muscle, size and jumping ability are all far below these players. Kobe, who I hate, $hits all over him from a pure skills perspective.
In the open court with a head a steam Lebron makes good decisions and is hard to stop. Slow it down to half court - if he's not surrounded by amazing shooters he's not winning - no ball movement, and lack of pure shooting can't be overcome just by being a musclehead.
Who were all these amazing shooters ( < plural) that you speak of that he was surrounded by in his Finals wins?

Kyrie and ?????

[SpaceJam2]

Kenny trying to do every possible thing he can to turn everyone against LeBron.

Another failure, just like him as a dad.

https://i.postimg.cc/c4wzDGZF/Yeeaahh.jpg

[SpaceJam2]

Who were all these amazing shooters ( < plural) that you speak of that he was surrounded by in his Finals wins?

Kyrie and ?????

Haven't you heard of the great Channing Frye and Richard Jefferson? :roll:

[Vino24]

Last 25 Years

1994 Dream
1995 Dream
1996 MJ
1997 MJ
1998 MJ
1999 Shaq
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Shaq
2005 Duncan
2006 Kobe
2007 Duncan
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Steph
2016 Steph
2017 KD
2018 KD
2019 ???
What's funny is that some of the BIGGEST LeBron haters can't keep him off this list but Kenny does :biggums: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

Shhh, be quiet Kenny, your meltdown is showing

[paksat]

Last 25 Years

1994 Dream
1995 Dream
1996 MJ
1997 MJ
1998 MJ
1999 Shaq
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Shaq
2005 Duncan
2006 Kobe
2007 Duncan
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Steph
2016 Steph
2017 KD
2018 KD
2019 ???

this man has seen some basketball

i'd have wade in place of kobe in 08 and 09 but other than that spot the **** on

[paksat]

Who were all these amazing shooters ( < plural) that you speak of that he was surrounded by in his Finals wins?

Kyrie and ?????

wellllllllllllll


see the thing is, they're all great until... they get on the same team with l39ron

but hey, l39ron could play for another 100 years assuming he was some kinda immortal and after a 100 years of seeing it happen every.single.year.you'd.still.be.a.bunch.of.dumb.s tans

[SouBeachTalents]

this man has seen some basketball

i'd have wade in place of kobe in 08 and 09 but other than that spot the **** on
Wade best in the league in '08 winning 17 games and barely playing 50, nah :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

wellllllllllllll


see the thing is, they're all great until... they get on the same team with l39ron

but hey, l39ron could play for another 100 years assuming he was some kinda immortal and after a 100 years of seeing it happen every.single.year.you'd.still.be.a.bunch.of.dumb.s tans
So James only wins when he has amazing shooters that he makes worse?? And you're calling others dumb??

[ArbitraryWater]

this man has seen some basketball

i'd have wade in place of kobe in 08 and 09 but other than that spot the **** on

and you clearly haven't.

Wade played 50 games in '08 and won '17 games with a mediocre season for his standards.

You don't know anything. You only know themes. Vagueness. You and his dumb ass need to get outta here.

[egokiller]

Kenny trying to do every possible thing he can to turn everyone against LeBron.

Another failure, just like him as a dad.

LeBron is the biggest joke to ever set foot on a basketball court. If he would have just played the game and stfu like Dirk for example, he would actually be respected. Instead the mental midget got chosen one tatted thinking he was the next Jordan. If you are doing to try and be the next MJ, don't lose 6 finals and then wonder why everyone points and laughs. :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

He was never the best and that's why he needed super teams and team hopping.

He fills box scores to full the sheep and elevate his brand at the expense of team success.

[paksat]

and you clearly haven't.

Wade played 50 games in '08 and won '17 games with a mediocre season for his standards.

You don't know anything. You only know themes. Vagueness. You and his dumb ass need to get outta here.

I meant his mvp season, the one that got stolen from him

and the season prior to his injury

I figured you numb nuts could put 2 and 2 together but I guess next time I'll be exact with my years

[TheCorporation]

LeBron is the biggest joke to ever set foot on a basketball court. If he would have just played the game and stfu like Dirk for example, he would actually be respected. Instead the mental midget got chosen one tatted thinking he was the next Jordan. If you are doing to try and be the next MJ, don't lose 6 finals and then wonder why everyone points and laughs. :roll:


Yawwwwn


Yeah, except for the fact that he already passed him.

Do I really need to post all the graphics again? How many times must you be punished before you learn?

https://i.postimg.cc/pL0qqHTn/Screenshot-20190315-093204-Phonto.jpg

[paksat]

Yawwwwn


Yeah, except for the fact that he already passed him.

Do I really need to post all the graphics again? How many times must you be punished before you learn?

https://i.postimg.cc/pL0qqHTn/Screenshot-20190315-093204-Phonto.jpg

which of these has the fewest rings and most padded stats :roll:

l39ron stans will never get it, getting an extra 8 points 4 boards and 4 assists while your team is down 30 with 4 minutes to go means NOTHING

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Who were all these amazing shooters ( < plural) that you speak of that he was surrounded by in his Finals wins?

Kyrie and ?????



Ray Allen, the all time 3 pt leader?
Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Kyle Korver ring a bell? All great outside shooters. JR Smith could get very hot - see 2016 NBA Finals.
Kevin Love had his moments. Korver and Allen were certainly better from 3 than anyone on the Lakers this season...

Plus like you mentioned, the guy who made the shot to win the 2016 finals - Kyrie.

[FireDavidKahn]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[PickernRoller]

Barring 2012 I think OP has a strong case.

[TheCorporation]

Barring 2012 I think OP has a strong case.

Small brain detected.

[Hey Yo]

Ray Allen, the all time 3 pt leader?
Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Kyle Korver ring a bell? All great outside shooters. JR Smith could get very hot - see 2016 NBA Finals.
Kevin Love had his moments. Korver and Allen were certainly better from 3 than anyone on the Lakers this season...

Plus like you mentioned, the guy who made the shot to win the 2016 finals - Kyrie.
Ray Allen and Miller both held scoreless in game 7 of the 2013 Finals. Miller avg. 9mins a game in the 2012 Finals.

Shane Battier, J.R , and K. Love all "amazing shooters????" Your examples are getting pretty dumb.

Kyle Korver wasn't on any of James' championship teams. Another dumb example.

So we're back to square one, Snaq. There's Kyrie and ???????

[RRR3]

dominant statistically yes. but a complete 2 way polished fundamental highly skilled wizard on the basketball court?


hell no


for me that title belongs to


2004 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett[B]
2005 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2006 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2007 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2008 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett/Paul
2009 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Paul
2010 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2011 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2012 - Kobe/Paul/Durant
2013 - Durant/Paul/George
2014 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2015 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2016 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis
2017 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis
2018 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis/Embiid
2019 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Giannis/Embiid
This is banworthy. You know damn well most of those players weren

[SpaceJam2]

Yawwwwn


Yeah, except for the fact that he already passed him.

Do I really need to post all the graphics again? How many times must you be punished before you learn?

https://i.postimg.cc/pL0qqHTn/Screenshot-20190315-093204-Phonto.jpg

Anyone available for comments?

[Celtics 1825]

I would say LeBron was the best player in the league from 2010-2016. The Heat years are when it's indisputable that he was the best.

[RRR3]

LeBron was clearly the best from 2009-13. He had a case for being the best in 2006, 2008, 2014 and 2016-18 as well.

[paksat]

Anyone available for comments?

you'd just ignore them, like you always do

"well l39ron has 2.3 more deflections than MJ has rings per year!!..."




:lol

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron was clearly the best from 2009-13. He had a case for being the best in 2006, 2008, 2014 and 2016-18 as well.
Not seeing his argument for '06 or '08, but imo he definitely had an argument in 2015 as well

[ArbitraryWater]

I meant his mvp season, the one that got stolen from him

and the season prior to his injury

I figured you numb nuts could put 2 and 2 together but I guess next time I'll be exact with my years

so you meant 2007 and 2009 but somehow in your head you thought those seasons came consecutively?

You're even dumber than I thought.

You have no grasp on what happened the last decade+, keep quiet.

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron was clearly the best (by far) from 2009-2018 minus 2011.

[Jacques Webster]

Just to add to this, there was no player in the league that was better than LeBron in 2013. Insanely efficient on offense, terrific on defense all while averaging his normal numbers. Should've been unanimous MVP that season.

[TheCorporation]

Just to add to this, there was no player in the league that was better than LeBron in 2013. Insanely efficient on offense, terrific on defense all while averaging his normal numbers. Should've been unanimous MVP that season.

100%

125 ORtg (matched MJ's highest ever) and that 27-game win steak

FOH for not being unanimous MVP. Didn't some **** head give a 1st place vote to Carmello Anthony that year? :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

This is banworthy. You know damn well most of those players weren’t better than LeBron in those years. Kobe over LeBron in 2012? :roll: Paul George over LeBron any year before this one? :roll: Jimmy Butler over LeBron EVER? :roll:

I could keep going for a long ass time with this, there are an insane amount of braindead rankings.


more dominant statistically/more productive offensively? no... better 2 way all around polished basketball players


yes


you see with lebron its all a show. its not real. hence going to the west and sucking farts while putting up even better all around numbers than ever

[knicksman]

100%

125 ORtg (matched MJ's highest ever) and that 27-game win steak

FOH for not being unanimous MVP. Didn't some **** head give a 1st place vote to Carmello Anthony that year? :roll:


in the end, without ray allen, he would be a loser. And his rings are ringchasers anyways so hes still a loser.

[stalkerforlife]

No one seriously counts the Heat years.

LMAO @ that super team in that conference meaning anything.

Meaningless.

[Wally450]

in the end, without ray allen, he would be a loser. And his rings are ringchasers anyways so hes still a loser.

If he didn't have Ray Allen, someone else would've gotten his shots in the first 6 games. Probably would've been more efficient. Ray was ass that series outside of that shot.

Your logic is flawed. Try again.

[JohnMax]

Shaq/Duncan 1999-2005
Kobe 2006-2013
Curry/Durant 2014-present

[Manny98]

Impact wise, Lebron was very good since around 2008.


From a pure skills perspective, I'm not sure Lebron's in the top 10 in the past 15 years.
Not the greatest dribbler, hasn't improved or gotten a great post game. Mid range shooting below average. Free throws down to 66%. Few counter moves, not amazing footwoork.
Basically 90% of his "skills" rely on size, strength and athleticism.


I can think easily of 10 players with more pure "skill" that played this year:
Wade
Curry
KD
Kyrie
Harden
CP3
Paul George
Olidipo
Donovan Mitchell
Kawhi


Lebron's "skills" once you take away the muscle, size and jumping ability are all far below these players. Kobe, who I hate, $hits all over him from a pure skills perspective.
In the open court with a head a steam Lebron makes good decisions and is hard to stop. Slow it down to half court - if he's not surrounded by amazing shooters he's not winning - no ball movement, and lack of pure shooting can't be overcome just by being a musclehead.
Donavan Mitchell is more skilled than LeBron? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Its Oladipo btw ****ing retard

[RRR3]

more dominant statistically/more productive offensively? no... better 2 way all around polished basketball players


yes


you see with lebron its all a show. its not real. hence going to the west and sucking farts while putting up even better all around numbers than ever
You

[knicksman]

If he didn't have Ray Allen, someone else would've gotten his shots in the first 6 games. Probably would've been more efficient. Ray was ass that series outside of that shot.

Your logic is flawed. Try again.

then we could also say. Lebron without forming superteams is ringless.

[kennethgriffen]

You’re absolutely braindead. Who the hell was a better 2 way player than LeBron during his peak years?


chase down blocks isnt defense

:lol


stiff arming your way to the basket or kicking it around from the top of the key while others run off screens isnt great offense


theres a reason lebrons playmaking skills suck if he doesnt have good screen shooters. he doesnt actually create anything himself. its all the shooters working to get open

[knicksman]

No one seriously counts the Heat years.

LMAO @ that super team in that conference meaning anything.

Meaningless.

bron stans have low standards. Thats why they respect lebron despite being disrespected by players.:lol

[RRR3]

i have severe brain damage

You sure do.

[knicksman]

You sure do.

more like youre a statnerd who has no idea what hes talking about

[SouBeachTalents]

more like youre a statnerd who has no idea what hes talking about
You said Antawn Jamison= Kareem based purely on stats :oldlol:

[RRR3]

You said Antawn Jamison= Kareem based purely on stats :oldlol:
:roll:

Link????

[SouBeachTalents]

:roll:

Link????
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553
Legit LOLed at work :roll:

Forgot about that one.

Kuniva saying “The ramblings of a retarded crack baby” has me dying.

[SpaceJam2]

chase down blocks isnt defense

:lol


stiff arming your way to the basket or kicking it around from the top of the key while others run off screens isnt great offense


theres a reason lebrons playmaking skills suck if he doesnt have good screen shooters. he doesnt actually create anything himself. its all the shooters working to get open

He had 2 DPOY years (bother under 100 DRtg and one was at 97. Kawhi/Dray type #s. How many did Kobe have?

[SpaceJam2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553

:roll: Good god...That guy is brain dead

[AussieSteve]

dominant statistically yes. but a complete 2 way polished fundamental highly skilled wizard on the basketball court?


hell no


for me that title belongs to


2004 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2005 - Kobe/Duncan/Garnett
2006 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2007 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett
2008 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Garnett/Paul
2009 - Kobe/Wade/Duncan/Paul
2010 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2011 - Kobe/Wade/Paul/Durant
2012 - Kobe/Paul/Durant
2013 - Durant/Paul/George
2014 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2015 - Durant/Paul/George/Davis
2016 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis
2017 - Durant/Paul/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis
2018 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Davis/Butler/Giannis/Embiid
2019 - Durant/Kawhi/George/Giannis/Embiid


Kobe has no case for BITW for all but a couple of seasons. You are delusional.

[RRR3]

Kobe has no case for BITW for all but a couple of seasons. You are delusional.
Kobe over LeBron in 2012 is indefensible. I like how he says Kobe was arguably the best in 2005 when he missed the playoffs with Lamar Odom and Caron Butler and the team had a better winningg percentage in the 16 games he missed and then turns around and shits on LeBron for this year. Pure hypocrisy.

[kennethgriffen]

Kobe has no case for BITW for all but a couple of seasons. You are delusional.


yeah thats why every year for over a decade it was so and so vs kobe




1999-2000 vince vs kobe

2001 iverson vs kobe

2002-2005 tmac vs kobe

2006-2009 wade vs kobe

2009-2013 lebron vs kobe


but kobe never had an argument

lol

[sdot_thadon]

Kobe had too many players as good or better than him in his career. Lebron hasn't and that goes without saying Lebron is of higher quality than Ol Parade brand Mike.:no:

[tpols]

yeah thats why every year for over a decade it was so and so vs kobe




1999-2000 vince vs kobe

2001 iverson vs kobe

2002-2005 tmac vs kobe

2006-2009 wade vs kobe

2009-2013 lebron vs kobe


but kobe never had an argument

lol


you cant expect a barkley stan to understand intangible impact.

[Celtics 1825]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[SpaceJam]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553

Good lord, this is disgusting

[egokiller]

Almost as disgusting as wheels saving someone's posts from 2015.

knicksman living rent free.

Simon stays loosing. :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367553
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[And1AllDay]

Almost as disgusting as wheels saving someone's posts from 2015.

knicksman living rent free.

Simon stays loosing. :oldlol:

lol at loosing you fuxing retart

https://i.postimg.cc/N0wyn3j8/Knicks-Fail.png

[Wally450]

knicksman is good for some comedy gold on this site.

Legit reminds me of Beetlejuice from Howard Stern.

[Rico2016]

No it's not arguable. Only if you're delusional. So I guess in your case it is arguable :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

[QUOTE=SpaceJam]Curry having Bron in his top 5 and not Kobe really pushed you over the edge bro.

We saw the cracks starting to form with that tanker shit but now it