Lost control and sucker punched my brother last night. How wrong was I?

[SunsN07BookIt]

Went over to my dad's house last night to see my parents and my cousin who just had a baby and was surprised to see my brother, who lives with them, and my 2 little nephews who I hadn't seen in a while because my bro got into a big fight with ex on Christmas and she wouldn't let him take her sons out anymore.

So my happiness quickly faded away as a saw my brother all pissed on his ATV with the motor on and my nephews upset and cold with no jackets on. I asked them why they weren't inside and they said my father had got pissed because they tripped a breaker setting up the XBox and my brother in turn exploded on him. My brother is one of those guy's on edge 24/7 and always angry.

So my dad walks outside and apologizes but walks away saying please don't take one his vehicles tonight(as he had been drinking and was with his grandsons), to which my brother exploded again. I tried to calm him down, but he was screaming like a madman the whole time. After a few minutes something triggered in his brain and he turned on me, eventually saying getting right up in my face we with his finger an inch from my nose saying if I said one more word taking dad's side he was going to fvck me up.

So I straight up hit him in the jaw, then slammed him to the ground right in front of his kids. He was screaming, "You sucker punched me you bitch!" Over and over again. I instantly regretted my decision. First of all, I did hit him without warning in front of his kids. 2nd of all, I had him down pretty good, he's 6'4 and has 3" on me but I outweigh him by 30lbs, and I didn't know what to do with him. It was either let him up and go toe to toe and risk getting hurt, or beat him into submission. Thankfully he told me to get off him, and he didn't want to fight when I let him go.

The worst part was he seemed sad and hurt afterwards. I would have felt much better if he was angry. So, I basically sucker punched him in front of his kids while he had been drinking. On the other hand he was up in my face with his finger saying he was going to fvck me up. How wrong was I? :confusedshrug:

[Ben Simmons 25]

He probably beat his kids later on because of you.

But seriously... it's not your fault that your brother has anger issues and is an alcoholic. Even still, you shouldn't have swung first.

As to how wrong you were? Not that wrong, but I mean... the biggest part you were wrong about was the fact that you did it in front his kids. You shouldn't have done that unless he swung first.


You should probably request to have a sit down with your brother, apologize, and recommend he go see a counselor for anger issues.

[Prometheus]

Went over to my dad's house last night to see my parents and my cousin who just had a baby and was surprised to see my brother, who lives with them, and my 2 little nephews who I hadn't seen in a while because my bro got into a big fight with ex on Christmas and she wouldn't let him take her sons out anymore.

So my happiness quickly faded away as a saw my brother all pissed on his ATV with the motor on and my nephews upset and cold with no jackets on. I asked them why they weren't inside and they said my father had got pissed because they tripped a breaker setting up the XBox and my brother in turn exploded on him. My brother is one of those guy's on edge 24/7 and always angry.

So my dad walks outside and apologizes but walks away saying please don't take one his vehicles tonight(as he had been drinking and was with his grandsons), to which my brother exploded again. I tried to calm him down, but he was screaming like a madman the whole time. After a few minutes something triggered in his brain and he turned on me, eventually saying getting right up in my face we with his finger an inch from my nose saying if I said one more word taking dad's side he was going to fvck me up.

So I straight up hit him in the jaw, then slammed him to the ground right in front of his kids. He was screaming, "You sucker punched me you bitch!" Over and over again. I instantly regretted my decision. First of all, I did hit him without warning in front of his kids. 2nd of all, I had him down pretty good, he's 6'4 and has 3" on me but I outweigh him by 30lbs, and I didn't know what to do with him. It was either let him up and go toe to toe and risk getting hurt, or beat him into submission. Thankfully he told me to get off him, and he didn't want to fight when I let him go.

The worst part was he seemed sad and hurt afterwards. I would have felt much better if he was angry. So, I basically sucker punched him in front of his kids while he had been drinking. On the other hand he was up in my face with his finger saying he was going to fvck me up. How wrong was I? :confusedshrug:

It doesn't sound like you were wrong in the slightest. I really don't think you should look at it like that.

Your brother sounds like a major f@ggot. He sounds very selfish and ignorant. So you lost your temper because he was yelling in your face and threatening you. Do you think he would have kept his cool in the same situation? Sounds like his temper is even shorter than yours. He needs to learn hard lessons, like his feelings are no more important than anyone else's. I say you did a good thing. Maybe should have done it sooner.

[SunsN07BookIt]

It doesn't sound like you were wrong in the slightest. I really don't think you should look at it like that.

Your brother sounds like a major f@ggot. He sounds very selfish and ignorant. So you lost your temper because he was yelling in your face and threatening you. Do you think he would have kept his cool in the same situation? Sounds like his temper is even shorter than yours. He needs to learn hard lessons, like his feelings are no more important than anyone else's. I say you did a good thing. Maybe should have done it sooner.

It's true. If someone had been yelling at him the way he was with me and my dad, he would have started throwing blows after the first few sentences. He feels disrespected at the smallest slight, but he treats people like garbage when things aren't going his way. I always tell him, he doesn't treat people the same way he expects to be treated and genuinely looks st me like he has no idea what I'm talking about.

The thing is, I caught him off guard. We've only fought once since high school and I was calm and my voice was level up until I threw the punch so he didn't see it coming.

[Prometheus]

It's true. If someone had been yelling at him the way he was with me and my dad, he would have started throwing blows after the first few sentences. He feels disrespected at the smallest slight, but he treats people like garbage when things aren't going his way. I always tell him, he doesn't treat people the same way he expects to be treated and genuinely looks st me like he has no idea what I'm talking about.

The thing is, I caught him off guard. We've only fought once since high school and I was calm and my voice was level up until I threw the punch so he didn't see it coming.

So what if you sucker punched him? It sounds like he was 100% wrong in the first place. That doesn't call for a bareknuckle boxing match, it calls for him to be taught a lesson. Is your dad scared of him? It sounds like he is. I think it's a good thing his kids saw him get dropped. They have to know he isn't always right or on top. Otherwise they might just hold him on a pedastel and grow up just like him.

[SunsN07BookIt]

You should probably request to have a sit down with your brother, apologize, and recommend he go see a counselor for anger issues.

He's been irregularly seeing professional help since he was 7. I still remember being in a session with him and the psychologist giving us 2 thick foamed bats and telling us to fight each other with them. To this day, that seemed really puzzling. :oldlol:

He makes ok money because he's in the family business but I'm worried about his future. Especially if my parents won't, or can't help him anymore.

[SunsN07BookIt]

Is your dad scared of him?

I don't know what I said that made you pick up on this but yeah, this is sort of true. My dad has never been a person to hold back once he's been triggered. He's calm but has a rage side that can come out if pushed. I've seen it only a few times though. It's where my bro gets it, I'm almost positive. My dad will take the high road most of the time, but will verbally scold him if he's reached his limit. However he will not get physically close to him when he's pissed like he did with me and my other brother when were kids. I've seen my brother fight bigger guys at the drop of a hat but also attack older men, come close to attacking women, and try to engage others who want absolutely nothing to do with a physical confrontation. My dad has too so he knows he's likely to be punched if he presses my brother when the 2 are face to face.

[Mask the Embiid]

Went over to my dad's house last night to see my parents and my cousin who just had a baby and was surprised to see my brother, who lives with them, and my 2 little nephews who I hadn't seen in a while because my bro got into a big fight with ex on Christmas and she wouldn't let him take her sons out anymore.

So my happiness quickly faded away as a saw my brother all pissed on his ATV with the motor on and my nephews upset and cold with no jackets on. I asked them why they weren't inside and they said my father had got pissed because they tripped a breaker setting up the XBox and my brother in turn exploded on him. My brother is one of those guy's on edge 24/7 and always angry.

So my dad walks outside and apologizes but walks away saying please don't take one his vehicles tonight(as he had been drinking and was with his grandsons), to which my brother exploded again. I tried to calm him down, but he was screaming like a madman the whole time. After a few minutes something triggered in his brain and he turned on me, eventually saying getting right up in my face we with his finger an inch from my nose saying if I said one more word taking dad's side he was going to fvck me up.

So I straight up hit him in the jaw, then slammed him to the ground right in front of his kids. He was screaming, "You sucker punched me you bitch!" Over and over again. I instantly regretted my decision. First of all, I did hit him without warning in front of his kids. 2nd of all, I had him down pretty good, he's 6'4 and has 3" on me but I outweigh him by 30lbs, and I didn't know what to do with him. It was either let him up and go toe to toe and risk getting hurt, or beat him into submission. Thankfully he told me to get off him, and he didn't want to fight when I let him go.

The worst part was he seemed sad and hurt afterwards. I would have felt much better if he was angry. So, I basically sucker punched him in front of his kids while he had been drinking. On the other hand he was up in my face with his finger saying he was going to fvck me up. How wrong was I? :confusedshrug:
you were surprised to see your brother who lives in the house you were going too...

:facepalm

btw it's your parents' house not your dad's house, you male chauvinist pig

[SunsN07BookIt]

you were surprised to see your brother who lives in the house you were going too...

:facepalm



I was surprised to see my 2 little nephews with my brother. I hadn't seen them since Christmas.

[Ben Simmons 25]

He's been irregularly seeing professional help since he was 7. I still remember being in a session with him and the psychologist giving us 2 thick foamed bats and telling us to fight each other with them. To this day, that seemed really puzzling. :oldlol:

He makes ok money because he's in the family business but I'm worried about his future. Especially if my parents won't, or can't help him anymore.

That psychologist was absolutely useless. LOL.

The difference between a mental health professional that knows what they're doing and one that doesn't is night and day. With one, you'll improve. With another, you're pissing your money away. Unfortunately, most are bad, stupid, and incompetent. You're going to have to ask around for one that is buttoned down tight.

I personally recommend a LCSW.

[Prometheus]

I don't know what I said that made you pick up on this but yeah, this is sort of true. My dad has never been a person to hold back once he's been triggered. He's calm but has a rage side that can come out if pushed. I've seen it only a few times though. It's where my bro gets it, I'm almost positive. My dad will take the high road most of the time, but will verbally scold him if he's reached his limit. However he will not get physically close to him when he's pissed like he did with me and my other brother when were kids. I've seen my brother fight bigger guys at the drop of a hat but also attack older men, come close to attacking women, and try to engage others who want absolutely nothing to do with a physical confrontation. My dad has too so he knows he's likely to be punched if he presses my brother when the 2 are face to face.

The bit about him asking your brother "please don't steal one of my vehicles". Sounds like he has resigned authority and given up on trying to enforce his own will over your brother's. The whole thing sounds like a mess. Your brother really sounds destructive.

[SunsN07BookIt]

The bit about him asking your brother "please don't steal one of my vehicles". Sounds like he has resigned authority and given up on trying to enforce his own will over your brother's. The whole thing sounds like a mess. Your brother really sounds destructive.

Yeah it is a mess. I don't see him living past 40 at this rate. He's definitely the black sheep of the family. My best friend in high school has a brother like this. 6 brothers and sisters, all well rounded and doing well in school except for the oldest, and only dark haired one lol. HS drop out, busted stealing copper, drugs, stole his dad's guns who happens to be a cop. He's in jail now, and the 2nd oldest is some type of forensic/hazmat officer with the Sheriff's dept haha.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Huge regrets

[LAmbruh]

Xbox's
ATV's
Boozed up uncles throwing hands
Ex GF's fighting uncles




Your nephews got that stacked holiday family entertainment package :biggums:

[ILLsmak]

That's not a sucker punch. It's a personal decision whether to walk away, slap him, or punch him. But if he was wasted that's probably the only reason to disengage, morally. Once people get up on you I mean it's like they are already fighting you. It would be a sucker punch if u were like o OK then when he turned around gave him da donkey.

Like I said some people need that. I'm usually good with words but I do have the possibility of losing control if people stay in my face. If you say you're gonna **** someone up and they punch you, that's not a sucker punch.

Bro I'm going to punch u get ready! Besides its not to be looked at as a fight where sucker punch would matter. It was just you knocking some sense into him. Assuming you didn't do any damage other than cause him pain it's prol fair play. Not my way but I mean do u.

But I think every long personal story here is bullshit, so I'm responding to "if this happened."

-Smak

[tpols]

it sounds like you taught him a well deserved lesson... he was a tough guy until put in his place.

[Akrazotile]

Defective human.

Seek to have him purged.

[Pushxx]

Never sucker punch anyone. That’s like a rule.

[Prometheus]

Defective human.

Seek to have him purged.

:lol