After all he said/she said, MJ is still the ratings KING!!!!

[Showtime80']

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_on_television

Its still amazes that nobody before or after Michael Jordan could hold the viewing public hostage the way he did during his prime.

Of the top 10 most viewed finals of all time Jordan was in 6 of them, while having the top 4 most viewed Finals of all time!!! Only Magic and Bird could hold a candle to him and that's why that era is widely known as the Golden Age of the NBA.

Neither Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Wade, LeBald, Dumbrick, Durant, Curry or Leonard have the charisma or the mesmerizing games to appeal the masses quite like those players specially MJ had. Hell the NBA All-Star used to be on PRIME TIME network television during the 80's and 90's!

The NBA has ALWAYS been a niche sport that only knocked on the door of the NFL and MLB during the MJ years. Now its putrid popularity in comparison of those leagues is largely based on Social Media, the pathetic Hip Hop connection and Yao Ming opening the China market. The league now has NO PLAYER OR TEAM RIVALRIES largely related to the AAU buddy buddy circuit , decaying fundamentals and bball IQ thanks to the one and done generation and EVERY TEAM is playing the same uncreative spamming 3 pointers system! BOOOOORING!!!

The most damning black mark against the modern NBA is none other than knuckle head triple double "machine" and league MVP himself Russell Westbrick who's level of dumbness, inefficiency, severe uncontrolled decision making and just lack of basic general basketball IQ would've gotten his pathetic behind glued to the bench during the 80's and 90's yet in today's joke of an NBA he's a superstar first option can put up absurd numbers while leading his team to nearly 50 wins in the supposed "tougher" conference.

What players like MJ, Bird, Olajuwon, Magic, Earvin, Stockton, Barkley and Malone would've done to today's mental midgets would be DISHONEST!!! Hell their late 90's older versions would dominate on their brains alone.

The NBA sacrificed intelligence, grit, fundamentals, defense, toughness, IQ and developed athleticism to obtain more points via endless 3 pointers and open lanes to basket and it's going to backfire on then once their propped up primadonna in LeBald James is gone from the scene. They've built their entire empire of the last 15 years around this clown and it is about to collapse right in their face. Good riddance to this modern era of "rule enhanced" basketball!!!

[90sgoat]

The thing about MJ is that he was a phenom.

One of those guys who will be talked about in 1000 years.

He's Mozart, he is Homer (not Simpson), he is The Beattles, he is Albert Einstein.

MJ was more than basketball. He was a basketball player, but by mastering his craft to such an extreme level, he transcended sport and entered into genius level, where mastery is so apparent even laypeople can see the talent.

[ClipperRevival]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_on_television

Its still amazes that nobody before or after Michael Jordan could hold the viewing public hostage the way he did during his prime.

Of the top 10 most viewed finals of all time Jordan was in 6 of them, while having the top 4 most viewed Finals of all time!!! Only Magic and Bird could hold a candle to him and that's why that era is widely known as the Golden Age of the NBA.

Neither Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Wade, LeBald, Dumbrick, Durant, Curry or Leonard have the charisma or the mesmerizing games to appeal the masses quite like those players specially MJ had. Hell the NBA All-Star used to be on PRIME TIME network television during the 80's and 90's!

The NBA has ALWAYS been a niche sport that only knocked on the door of the NFL and MLB during the MJ years. Now its putrid popularity in comparison of those leagues is largely based on Social Media, the pathetic Hip Hop connection and Yao Ming opening the China market. The league now has NO PLAYER OR TEAM RIVALRIES largely related to the AAU buddy buddy circuit , decaying fundamentals and bball IQ thanks to the one and done generation and EVERY TEAM is playing the same uncreative spamming 3 pointers system! BOOOOORING!!!

The most damning black mark against the modern NBA is none other than knuckle head triple double "machine" and league MVP himself Russell Westbrick who's level of dumbness, inefficiency, severe uncontrolled decision making and just lack of basic general basketball IQ would've gotten his pathetic behind glued to the bench during the 80's and 90's yet in today's joke of an NBA he's a superstar first option can put up absurd numbers while leading his team to nearly 50 wins in the supposed "tougher" conference.

What players like MJ, Bird, Olajuwon, Magic, Earvin, Stockton, Barkley and Malone would've done to today's mental midgets would be DISHONEST!!! Hell their late 90's older versions would dominate on their brains alone.

The NBA sacrificed intelligence, grit, fundamentals, defense, toughness, IQ and developed athleticism to obtain more points via endless 3 pointers and open lanes to basket and it's going to backfire on then once their propped up primadonna in LeBald James is gone from the scene. They've built their entire empire of the last 15 years around this clown and it is about to collapse right in their face. Good riddance to this modern era of "rule enhanced" basketball!!!

Westbrook really is the greatest example of how flawed this era is.

Yeah man, the bball i'm watching is not the highest form of bball. Just like the NFL i'm watching today isn't the highest form of football. It's a neutered version where the D is completely handicapped.

Just lucky some of us got to watch the GOAT in action I guess.

[ClipperRevival]

The thing about MJ is that he was a phenom.

One of those guys who will be talked about in 1000 years.

He's Mozart, he is Homer (not Simpson), he is The Beattles, he is Albert Einstein.

MJ was more than basketball. He was a basketball player, but by mastering his craft to such an extreme level, he transcended sport and entered into genius level, where mastery is so apparent even laypeople can see the talent.

:applause:

Nicely said. I don't know if anyone in the history of human kind was as good at ANYTHING than MJ was at bball. I still don't truly believe what I saw with my own eyes. He was just that dude.

[AirBonner]

the thing about MJ is that no one here gives a fvck about him except for the same two middle aged dweebs

[ClipperRevival]

the thing about MJ is that no one here gives a fvck about him except for the same two middle aged dweebs

LOL. You LeBron fans think more about MJ than LeBron. Just look at all the threads yall start about him.

[LAmbruh]

the thing about MJ is that no one here gives a fvck about him except for the same two middle aged dweebs
this LOL

middle aged 40 yo's posting on a dead forum to protect a 20 year retired players legacy

ultra yikes :oldlol:

[bullettooth]

this LOL

middle aged 40 yo's posting on a dead forum to protect a 20 year retired players legacy

ultra yikes :oldlol:

You've been in melt down mode since 2011.

[sdot_thadon]

Well, honestly I'd hope so. They didn't have a fraction of the other distractions/content we have competing for our attention as we have currently. I'm not even too familiar with how they calculate ratings either.....Did anyone by chance read the retarded ratings numbers for the last 5 minutes of game 7 in 2016? Was that the most watched nba moment ever?



The highest rated and most watched NBA Final game was Game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals which averaged a 22.3 rating / 38 share and 35.89 million viewers on Sunday night.




Game 7 of the 2016 NBA Finals registered the network's highest rated and most watched NBA game with an average 15.8 rating / 29 share and 31.02 million viewers while peaking with a whopping 22.5 rating and 90.51 million viewers in the last 5 minutes of the game.[1] It was the first basketball game to draw more than 30 million average viewers in 18 years, and only the seventh sports telecast (excluding NFL and Olympics) to have done so since 1998.[2]

[knicksman]

it was the peak because stern was short sighted. He sacrificed integrity for ratings with his superstar treatment to jordan. People left coz its a biased league. The only ones left are the jordan fans. NBA fans already quit. So once jordan retired, jordan fans are also gone. Its the same with what happened during lebrons superteams, ratings are great at the start but it sacrificed the future. Thats why were here now. NBA was mismanaged. Its like westbrook who only cares about stats/ratings. Its cheap and its not good in the long run.

[Showtime80']

Not quite that simple Stot!

There were a LOOOOT more distractions during the 1996-98 period when compared to 1987-89 era and MJ's last three Finals appearances still TROUNCED Magic, Larry and Isiah's previous NBA ratings peaks. He was just that much of a must see attraction.

By the same token the NBA's regular season and Finals ratings fell off a CLIFF for the 1999 season and have NEVER recovered. The internet was not invented during the offseason between 1998 and 1999 LOL!!! They tried to market the snot out of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBald and Durant as the new saviors but NONE OF THEM have grabbed the audience like MJ did or Magic/Bird for that matter.

Hell LeBron has trouble matching the Shaq/Kobe Lakers while posting the HISTORICALLY LOW 6.2 rating he did in 2007!!! He is not in MJ's league nor ANYONE IS!!!

Michael Jordan posted the TWO MOST WATCHED Finals ratings of all time against a team from Utah, friggin Utah!!!

[FKAri]

Friends > The Wire. Ratings KANG :applause:

[knicksman]

if there were no superstar treatment, jordan might not have won 6 and it wont have that high of a rating. And if nba was properly managed, ratings would be trending upwards since it was trending up when stern became the comish. The ratings of nba when stern started and retired are almost the same. That just means that theres no improvement during sterns 30 years as commish. So I believe that nba right now would have higher or the same ratings as during jordan if properly managed.

[Da_Realist]

These boxscore watchers don't understand how the combination of artistry, charisma and competitive drive captivated the world. They see today's eye-popping TS% and PER and honestly can't discern what's so special. :oldlol:

Durant still studies MJ. LeBron's still chasing the ghost that retired 20 years ago. And Kobe became one of the greatest of all time mimicking the last third of MJ's Bulls career.

Just like you can still hear echoes of Michael Jackson's influence in Ne-Yo, Usher, Chris Brown and a thousand others, Michael Jordan's legacy still lives in the games of guys that likely never saw Jordan play in a Bulls uniform live.

Keep watching boxscores. They'll never be another Michael Jordan. It's just as silly as using Grammy Awards to compare the latest pop tart to Michael Jackson.

[90sgoat]

this LOL

middle aged 40 yo's posting on a dead forum to protect a 20 year retired players legacy

ultra yikes :oldlol:

You've been posting 100 posts a day on 20+ alts since you were 15 and those black bullies put you in a locker.

Now you're mid 20s and still only getting paid cents to keep your rich uncle's basketball forum alive.

Bruh, I'd start thinking about making something off your life.

[Spurs m8]

The thing about MJ is that he was a phenom.

One of those guys who will be talked about in 1000 years.

He's Mozart, he is Homer (not Simpson), he is The Beattles, he is Albert Einstein.

MJ was more than basketball. He was a basketball player, but by mastering his craft to such an extreme level, he transcended sport and entered into genius level, where mastery is so apparent even laypeople can see the talent.

This is so accurate.

People who weren't around to see or remember that era of life will just simply never get it, it really was something else....it was beyond special and amazing.

100,000 posts by a guy in a wheelchair will change nothing

[Showtime80']

The problem is knicksman Stern really didn't have ANYTHING to do with the peak NBA period of 1984-1998, any commissioner worth his salt would've found a way to market and advance the league after the greatest influx of young entertaining and CHARISMATIC talent to EVER come into a sports league at one time!.

Think about the names that entered the NBA from 1980 to 1985:

Magic
Bird
Isiah
Drexler
Jordan
Barkley
Olajuwon
Ewing
Stockton
Karl Malone
Wilkins
McHale
Mullin
Aguirre
Moncrief
Worthy
Sampson

Add to that list the already established stars from the 70's in Kareem, Moses, Dr J and Gervin and you my friend have the foundation to carry ANY LEAGUE for two decades just like it happened.

The dilemma for the NBA is that lightning RARELY strikes in the same spot twice and they thought that infusion of talent was going to be the norm going forward, WRONG!!!!

The generation that followed in Shaq, Mourning, Laettner, Hill, Webber, Kidd, Coleman, LJ, Mutombo, Mashburn, Joe Smith going into the following of Iverson, Kobe, Glen Robinson, Garnett, Pierce, Allen and culminating in the present one were EXTREMELY ENTITLED, not as charismatic or competitive and frankly just not as GOOD as the one from 1980-85, maybe more athletic but that's just about the ONLY improvement. Couple that with the high schooler/one and done boom and you see the watered down product the NBA is presently trotting out and why they've had TO ALTER the game with dozens of rule changes to favor offensive basketball.

[Hey Yo]

Showtime 80's sure as hell wasn't referencing the defense being played back in the 80's that's for sure.

Must have been nice getting first round byes and playing 3gms series in the brutal Western Conf....... :oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

Tom Brady > Mikey Jordan

[Showtime80']

Please Hey Yo, the 80's West wasn't that much worse than what the pathetic East was during LeBald's tenure and the league's defense today is more PATHETIC than it EVER WAS AT ANY TIME thanks to the rule changes to defang the defense.

And again we are talking Michael Jordan here not Magic, a guy that played in the STRONGER EAST his entire prime, a guy that was the best player in the NBA starting in 1988 when the league averaged 108ppg, 48% FG on a 100 pace. He won his first title in 1991 as the best player in the league when averages dipped to 106ppg, 47%FG and 98 pace, came back after a two year layoff to be the best player again in 1996 with the league averages continuing to decline to 100ppg, 46% FG on a 92 pace and finally culminating in 1998 as STILL the best player in the NBA when the averages plummeted to 96 ppg, 45% FG on a 90 pace!!!.

See a pattern here youngins? Jordan in just ten years dominated FOUR different stages of play styles and would've dominated IN ANY ERA of basketball you dropped him onto, that's what makes him the GREATEST!

[Hey Yo]

Please Hey Yo, the 80's West wasn't that much worse than what the pathetic East was during LeBald's tenure and the league's defense today is more PATHETIC than it EVER WAS AT ANY TIME thanks to the rule changes to defang the defense.

And again we are talking Michael Jordan here not Magic, a guy that played in the STRONGER EAST his entire prime, a guy that was the best player in the NBA starting in 1988 when the league averaged 108ppg, 48% FG on a 100 pace. He won his first title in 1991 as the best player in the league when averages dipped to 106ppg, 47%FG and 98 pace, came back after a two year layoff to be the best player again in 1996 with the league averages continuing to decline to 100ppg, 46% FG on a 92 pace and finally culminating in 1998 as STILL the best player in the NBA when the averages plummeted to 96 ppg, 45% FG on a 90 pace!!!.

See a pattern here youngins? Jordan in just ten years dominated FOUR different stages of play styles and would've dominated IN ANY ERA of basketball you dropped him onto, that's what makes him the GREATEST!:oldlol:

If the NBA allowed zone defense, I wouldn't have had the career I did.

MJ


How could MJ be the best player in 1988 when he hadn't won a playoff series until that year??

[Showtime80']

Jordan in 1988 took the Bulls to 50 wins for the first time since 1974 with Doug Collins as head coach and rookies Pippen and Grant, won MVP, DPOY, Scoring Title, All-Star MVP and Slam Dunk champion! That's the NBA's best player with possibly the GREATEST individual season EVER! Look at what Magic, Bird and Isiah were rolling with in that season.

And LOL at the Jordan quote about zone defenses!!! His complaint came a year before the rule change came into play and everyone thought the NBA was putting in a REAL COLLEGE STYLE zone when in reality all they NBA did was clean up the clarify the confusing illegal defense rule while at the same time taking out the hand check and clearing the paint with the 3 second rule because they wanted to showcase and make life easier for their new "I wanna be like Mike" dumbed down "superstars" like Kobe, Iverson, Carter, Francis, Davis, McGrady and LeBald.

And like I said earlier, of one of the DUMBEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME in Russell Dumbrick can average a triple double and get his flawed team to 50 teams in the supposedly tougher conference in the modern "zoned out" NBA, imagine what the GOAT would do!

[imdaman99]

Imagine if Jordan had to actually play defense in this era, instead of shutting down Craig Ehlo and other car mechanics. He would not average 30+.

[superduper]

Imagine if Jordan had to actually play defense in this era, instead of shutting down Craig Ehlo and other car mechanics. He would not average 30+.

Imagine saying this about the best perimeter defensive player of his era not named Pippen. And what exactly do you know about Craig Ehlo? What are you using to be able to make opinions on the man's ability to play basketball?

Bran stans/Jordan haters in a legit nutshell. Embarrassing and uneducated takes.

[imdaman99]

Imagine saying this about the best perimeter defensive player of his era not named Pippen. And what exactly do you know about Craig Ehlo? What are you using to be able to make opinions on the man's ability to play basketball?

Bran stans/Jordan haters in a legit nutshell. Embarrassing and uneducated takes.
I'm a diehard John Starks fan. 90s Knicks was their biggest competitors... and let me tell you that the Knicks were lacking in talent compared to MJs Bulls. It's a sad reality. Craig Ehlo sucks. Dumars was a great defender but he was also shorter than Jordan. Starks was a great defender but also shorter and less athletic than Jordan. And teams in general were not as talented as they are now, except those Bulls.

How much did you watch of those Bulls? How old are you?

[Showtime80']

The Knicks had MORE talent than the Bulls imdaman specially in 1992 when they had Ewing, Oakley, Wilkins, McDaniel and Mark Jackson not to mention their defense was one of the most physical, disciplined and intense of all times. MJ used to torch all time great tall defenders like Dennis Rodman and Michael Cooper in their primes not to mention after he got by them he had congested paints with bruising centers and PF's to worry about.

Who was the ONLY consistent offensive weapon Jordan had during the early 90's?!?! That's right Scottie Pippen who was also known to get flustered and disappear during stretches. Horace Grant was there to rebound and nail the occasional open 15 footer and get a few post ups every now and then. That was the Bulls offense aside from MJ.

What the Bulls ALWAYS were is one of the most consistent and hounding defensive units of all time!!! Your offense can have an off night but defensive effort will keep you in and win you A LOT OF GAMES as it did for the Bulls in the 90's.

People wrongly think Athleticism=Talent, the NBA of 1996-98 was MORE ATHLETIC than that of 1988-93 but it definitely WAS NOT BETTER OR MORE TALENTED!!! The NBA fell in love with Michael Jordan, rightfully so but took a wrong turn in sacrificing and encouraging athleticism above fundamentals, basketball IQ and just a general cerebral approach at the detriment of the quality and well-being of the game.

Back in the 80's- early 90's prospects stayed in college for 2-4 years and came into the league as ready made products set to contribute and make an impact immediately. That all changed in the mid 90's and has continued to this day with the AAU circuit wrecking player development and the high school to pros/one and done mentally has finished off what made the NBA special during the Golden Era.

For enjoyment and research sake go watch the playoff series between the Jazz-Lakers from 1997 and 1998 where the Jazz lead by 32+ y/o Malone, Stockton and Hornacek handed an absolute AS! BEATING to one of the most atheletically gifted teams of ANY ERA in the Lakers. It was classic brains over athleticism, brawn over fanciness, discipline versus recklessness etc...

The NBA has gotten more athletic since the mid 90's but it has also gotten SEVERELY DUMBED down in the process due to the points I stated above. Michael Jordan and a lot of those Golden Era superstars would not find the modern NBA much of a challenge and would probably get bored very quickly in this rivalry lacking, AAU buddy buddy teaming up, SOFT, one and done polluted fundamentally flawed NBA.

But hey you still have Dumbrick's triple doubles and teams jacking up 50 3's to look forward to!!!! LOL

[sdot_thadon]

Not quite that simple Stot!

There were a LOOOOT more distractions during the 1996-98 period when compared to 1987-89 era and MJ's last three Finals appearances still TROUNCED Magic, Larry and Isiah's previous NBA ratings peaks. He was just that much of a must see attraction.

By the same token the NBA's regular season and Finals ratings fell off a CLIFF for the 1999 season and have NEVER recovered. The internet was not invented during the offseason between 1998 and 1999 LOL!!! They tried to market the snot out of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBald and Durant as the new saviors but NONE OF THEM have grabbed the audience like MJ did or Magic/Bird for that matter.

Hell LeBron has trouble matching the Shaq/Kobe Lakers while posting the HISTORICALLY LOW 6.2 rating he did in 2007!!! He is not in MJ's league nor ANYONE IS!!!

Michael Jordan posted the TWO MOST WATCHED Finals ratings of all time against a team from Utah, friggin Utah!!!
Correct it's not quite that easy when you take nuances of time periods into account. 1st of all Mj was a bigger star than Isiah could have ever dreamed of being. 2nd his NBA's popularity was a piggyback of Magic and Bird's previous work. When they "saved" the NBA, not my words either but without them nobody's watching Mj either unfortunately. Cable Tv was more widespread so there was other content options, but lets be real it's grown exponentially to today looking back at 1998. Now we not only have hundreds of cable tv options but we also have streaming options for basically every plausible genre, online gaming, social media, cell phones in our pockets that put 1998 desktop computers to shame. It's an entirely different world to be honest, so it doesn't actually hold the weight you want it to.

Ratings did fall off a cliff after Mj retired and if you were around you knew why. All the true superstars were old and no one was able to step into that void right away. Shaq was interesting but a big is never the box office hit a dynamic wing can be. Nba history has shown us this over and over again. The nba knew this and modified rules to allow more players to mimic the playstyle but the game was too ugly in the early 2000s.

Lebron in 2007 wasn't the mega star Lebron quite yet so low ratings would be understandable, as he grew in legend he grew in ratings the same as Mj. I'd say he backpacked league ratings for quite sometime and we see this year the impact of east coast viewers losing him in the ratings.

It's pretty incredible than 90 million people watched the last 5 minutes of the 2016 finals though despite everything else they could have been doing.

[Spurs m8]

Imagine if Jordan had to actually play defense in this era, instead of shutting down Craig Ehlo and other car mechanics. He would not average 30+.

I don't know if people purposely tell themselves this stuff or simply just dont get it.

Like, you can tell you weren't around the 90s....you're just making yourself look stupid, bro hahahahah

[knicksman]

The problem is knicksman Stern really didn't have ANYTHING to do with the peak NBA period of 1984-1998, any commissioner worth his salt would've found a way to market and advance the league after the greatest influx of young entertaining and CHARISMATIC talent to EVER come into a sports league at one time!.

Think about the names that entered the NBA from 1980 to 1985:

Magic
Bird
Isiah
Drexler
Jordan
Barkley
Olajuwon
Ewing
Stockton
Karl Malone
Wilkins
McHale
Mullin
Aguirre
Moncrief
Worthy
Sampson

Add to that list the already established stars from the 70's in Kareem, Moses, Dr J and Gervin and you my friend have the foundation to carry ANY LEAGUE for two decades just like it happened.

The dilemma for the NBA is that lightning RARELY strikes in the same spot twice and they thought that infusion of talent was going to be the norm going forward, WRONG!!!!

The generation that followed in Shaq, Mourning, Laettner, Hill, Webber, Kidd, Coleman, LJ, Mutombo, Mashburn, Joe Smith going into the following of Iverson, Kobe, Glen Robinson, Garnett, Pierce, Allen and culminating in the present one were EXTREMELY ENTITLED, not as charismatic or competitive and frankly just not as GOOD as the one from 1980-85, maybe more athletic but that's just about the ONLY improvement. Couple that with the high schooler/one and done boom and you see the watered down product the NBA is presently trotting out and why they've had TO ALTER the game with dozens of rule changes to favor offensive basketball.


he has actually, its him who decided to make it a players league thus the superstar treatment. We dont know how many rings jordan would have without it. Luckily, jordan is charismatic so the ratings were on all time high but with that strategy, youre sacrificing the future for the now. Its the same with lebrons big 3 thats why ratings were high during the start of superteam era but after that? Nobody wants to see a league that is unfair. Had it been a fair league, nba would be rivaling nfl ratings by now. Nba has the same ratings when stern entered and retired, thats 30 years without improvement. Had nba been not mismanaged, in that 30 years ratings by now would be the same during jordans time or better.

Its really like westbrooks triple doubles. Its great but it sacrifices team play thats why hes a loser. Jordans high ratings were due to stern making it a players league. Giving him superstar treatment to win those rings but it in the end, it sacrifices the future of the league so for me, those ratings means nothing just like the high ratings during miamis big 3 means nothing.

[Anti Vida]

:applause:

Nicely said. I don't know if anyone in the history of human kind was as good at ANYTHING than MJ was at bball. I still don't truly believe what I saw with my own eyes. He was just that dude.

Since color television, there are only two people the whole world knew about before easy info/press/marketing became a thing on the 24hr news cycle and the internet. Those two were Michael Jackson, and Michael Jordan. 2 of the most famous people ever in the history of earth. Yes, post dangerous album Mike was a ****ing weirdo, but nobody was touch Thriller Mike or Bad Mike. Only Jordan reached those levels. The only person that was as good at what they did as Mike was as good at basketball, was 80s Michael Jackson.

[egokiller]

You've been posting 100 posts a day on 20+ alts since you were 15 and those black bullies put you in a locker.

Now you're mid 20s and still only getting paid cents to keep your rich uncle's basketball forum alive.

Bruh, I'd start thinking about making something off your life.

:roll:

He spends his life wondering what it would have been like to watch GOAT MJ play in his prime. Has 20+ alts devoted to it and still after all these years has the same coping mechanism issues he had when he first started posting.

[ClipperRevival]

Since color television, there are only two people the whole world knew about before easy info/press/marketing became a thing on the 24hr news cycle and the internet. Those two were Michael Jackson, and Michael Jordan. 2 of the most famous people ever in the history of earth. Yes, post dangerous album Mike was a ****ing weirdo, but nobody was touch Thriller Mike or Bad Mike. Only Jordan reached those levels. The only person that was as good at what they did as Mike was as good at basketball, was 80s Michael Jackson.

Shouldn't Ali count too? That's another guy who was on MJ level in terms of sheer, worldwide fame.