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LAmbruh
04-23-2019, 05:13 AM
So many All-Star bids and All-Team's :facepalm



https://i.postimg.cc/BvLF9DK9/gjkl-jhk-ljhkl-hjkl-jhkl.png




Thank god for Fisher, CP3, Lebron and NBPA changing the way players are paid now


No player has to retire a used car salesman or autograph memorabilia at book stores for chump change


Everyone eats

:applause:

coin24
04-23-2019, 05:19 AM
Still can't believe you spend your whole life on here:oldlol:

LAmbruh
04-23-2019, 05:20 AM
Join Date: Jul 2009


coming up on that big 10 year anniversary, cashew :oldlol:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-23-2019, 05:24 AM
makes sense

Pip was never great. Just a solid player

like 2007/2008 Andre Iguodala with a post game. thats the level he was at

top level perimeter defender averaging 20/5/5/2, leading the break

Iggy got paid the same amount too:applause: :applause:

scuzzy
04-23-2019, 05:29 AM
very disrespected


Houston righteously tripled it the following season and shot him 12m :applause:


As did Portland the year later at 15m :applause:

LAmbruh
04-23-2019, 05:33 AM
very disrespected


Houston righteously tripled it the following season and shot him 12m :applause:


As did Portland the year later at 15m :applause:
makes sense :applause:

Kblaze8855
04-23-2019, 05:47 AM
Hakeem made less than Benoit Benjamin, Danny Ferry, and Hot Rod williams at times. Danny Ferry and Hot Rod both made more than Jordan in 1991. As late as 1996 Jordans salary wasnt top 30 in the league. All the deals were ****ed up before the 98 lockout(though the 94 one helped). Guys like Scottie, Jordan, Magic, and Kemp would sign deals that were often waaaaaaay too long too early in their careers to know their true value. Sam Bowie in 1996 was still making more money than Jordan.

Patrick Ewing at one point made 19 million against a 23 million dollar salary cap. Ewing made more than Drob, Hakeem, and Shaq COMBINED in 1996.

It wasnt a Pippen thing. It was an NBA thing. There was an insane difference in salaries all depending on how stupid an owner was or if you signed a long term deal in the 80s not seeing the bigger cap coming when cable contracts hit much like the internet money did a few years ago.

Larry Johnson had I believe a 12 year 85 million dollar deal coming off his rookie season and Webber signed for 15 years out of college(with the Warriors stupidly adding a player option on year 2 which is why he ended up traded). I think LJs contract was at the time the biggest in sports history....more than doubling the previous record....which was Shawn Bradley getting like 40 million the year before.

This is back when agents earned their money. Your contract might be like Isiah Thomas....11 years as a rookie then 55 million and partial ownership of the team at age 30 just before you retire.....or you might get Pippened or Kemped and make pennies compared to role players 2 years after you sign for what you thought was big money.

Agents now just tell you where to sign on the max offer. Back then it was the difference between making 8 years 12 million and 5 years 35.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-23-2019, 05:48 AM
very disrespected


Houston righteously tripled it the following season and shot him 12m :applause:


As did Portland the year later at 15m :applause:

And he rewarded them by not even playing at an all star caliber level:applause: :applause:

Looks like Chicago got the contract right for his actual worth:applause: :applause:

RoseCity07
04-23-2019, 05:48 AM
That's one of the reasons the Bulls knew 98 was going to be the last dance. Pippen was furious that he wasn't being offered a big contract like Jordan. He resented the entire franchise because of that.

Kblaze8855
04-23-2019, 06:01 AM
And he rewarded them by not even playing at an all star caliber level:applause: :applause:

Looks like Chicago got the contract right for his actual worth:applause: :applause:


Yea....94 Pippens value was less than the 3rd highest paid player on the Cavs and outside the top 40 in 95.

It was a bad deal because half the league had bad deals at the time. Just that simple. he was the 6th highest paid player on a title team then got paid like a top 10 player....then all the people who signed those deals got left in the dust. Guys like him, Barkley, and Nique signed 15-20 million dollar deals then Larry Johnson gets 85 million and they all looked stupid.

scuzzy
04-23-2019, 06:06 AM
makes sense :applause:
100%

And immediately coming off toe surgery lead the Blazers 7 games deep in the Conf Finals :applause:

brutalBBQ
04-23-2019, 06:07 AM
Didn't Pippen blow his money on failed investments too?
Guess that's why he is /was on The Jump to pay the bills.

Anti Vida
04-23-2019, 08:33 AM
Pippen chose to make that money. He was warned by Jordan, Phil Jackson, even the GM of the bulls to not sign that deal. To wait and get a big pay day when the contracts were restructured. Pippen refused and signed anyways. He cried foul about it later. The effing GM said don't do it, but Pippen was an imbecile who couldn't miss a check. The bulls didn't abuse scottie. Scottie chose that.

egokiller
04-23-2019, 08:54 AM
MJ went 6/6 with the 2nd best player on his team making 15x less than him.

What MJ did is even MORE impressive now that everyone knows this fact. :applause:

ANOTHER ONE

bigkingsfan
04-23-2019, 09:32 AM
One year with Portland was more than his entire Bulls salary.

SpaceJam2
04-23-2019, 09:33 AM
Join Date: Jul 2009


coming up on that big 10 year anniversary, cashew :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

Hey Yo
04-23-2019, 10:06 AM
Hakeem made less than Benoit Benjamin, Danny Ferry, and Hot Rod williams at times. Danny Ferry and Hot Rod both made more than Jordan in 1991. As late as 1996 Jordans salary wasnt top 30 in the league. All the deals were ****ed up before the 98 lockout(though the 94 one helped). Guys like Scottie, Jordan, Magic, and Kemp would sign deals that were often waaaaaaay too long too early in their careers to know their true value. Sam Bowie in 1996 was still making more money than Jordan.

Patrick Ewing at one point made 19 million against a 23 million dollar salary cap. Ewing made more than Drob, Hakeem, and Shaq COMBINED in 1996.

It wasnt a Pippen thing. It was an NBA thing. There was an insane difference in salaries all depending on how stupid an owner was or if you signed a long term deal in the 80s not seeing the bigger cap coming when cable contracts hit much like the internet money did a few years ago.

Larry Johnson had I believe a 12 year 85 million dollar deal coming off his rookie season and Webber signed for 15 years out of college(with the Warriors stupidly adding a player option on year 2 which is why he ended up traded). I think LJs contract was at the time the biggest in sports history....more than doubling the previous record....which was Shawn Bradley getting like 40 million the year before.

This is back when agents earned their money. Your contract might be like Isiah Thomas....11 years as a rookie then 55 million and partial ownership of the team at age 30 just before you retire.....or you might get Pippened or Kemped and make pennies compared to role players 2 years after you sign for what you thought was big money.

Agents now just tell you where to sign on the max offer. Back then it was the difference between making 8 years 12 million and 5 years 35.
Yeah, never understood why MJ's agent would advise him to sign that 8yr - 25mil extension in the summer of 88. Sure that was huge money at the time, but both should have known that over those 8yrs that there was a good chance that salary's would go up around the league.

superduper
04-23-2019, 10:07 AM
Yeah, never understood why MJ's agent would advise him to sign that 8yr - 25mil extension in the summer of 88. Sure that was huge money at the time, but both should have known that over those 8yrs that there was a good chance that salary's would go up around the league.

They probably just wanted a payroll secured just in case of a career ending injury? Either that or incompetence.

Lol at 8 years 25 mil. People are literally making over 10x that now. Absolutely insane to think about.

Indian guy
04-23-2019, 10:15 AM
Pippen signed a 5 year, 18 million contract extension at the end of the '91 season that would last till '98 and pretty much lived to regret it the rest of his Bulls career. Salaries were still low in the early 90's and all Pippen cared about was security. But salaries began exploding from mid-90's onwards and guys who weren't half the player Pippen was were making wayyy more than him. Leaving him bitter and constantly frustrated at the Bulls FO for paying him so little. But he had no one to blame but himself for signing that extension.

At least he made it up from 99-04 by being ridiculously overpaid. Made 88 million in that span.

Uncle Drew
04-23-2019, 11:20 AM
Join Date: Jul 2009


coming up on that big 10 year anniversary, cashew :oldlol:
Is there a better poster on this board than coon24?

HoopologyPhD
04-23-2019, 11:35 AM
Not a big deal, Pip would have blown the extra cash on stupid stuff anyways.

game3524
04-23-2019, 11:46 AM
Like some have said, Scottie has no one to blame but himself. The Bulls FO told him the contract would look bad in the next few years with the salary cap going up.

RRR3
04-23-2019, 12:17 PM
makes sense

Pip was never great. Just a solid player

like 2007/2008 Andre Iguodala with a post game. thats the level he was at

top level perimeter defender averaging 20/5/5/2, leading the break

Iggy got paid the same amount too:applause: :applause:
Pippen was never great? :roll: :roll: :roll:





:facepalm

red1
04-23-2019, 02:21 PM
this is a grave injustice. the man carried baldan all throughout his career. we need to set up a gofundme for scottie tree-trunk pimpin.




just look at this clown:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qy_QOIfdapg/hqdefault.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoUNqBpUMAASqsN.jpg


does he have a comb in his pocket? really baldan? :roll:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HTS9mtzNGnI/R2YxfbcOgGI/AAAAAAAAVSA/QCgt6TbKUt8/s400/73307_Michael_Jordan_1_122_132lo.jpg

baudkarma
04-23-2019, 02:52 PM
Yeah, I think salary was a contributing factor to Pips meltdown in '94 against the Knicks. Jordan was off playing baseball, Phil and the rest of the Bulls were telling Pippen that he was their superstar now, that he could be just as good as Jordan. Scottie realized he wasn't getting paid like a superstar, and when Phil called that play for Kukoc... something he NEVER would have done if Jordan was in the game... Scottie realized he was being lied to and led on. And he snapped.