Steph went for 3-D (layup) but commits clutch TO; Lou answers w/ mid-range to seal it

[3ball]

2 mid-range daggars after Curry's unskilled blunder

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MfNsIqsh7tc&t=08m37s


Mid-range will always rule the clutch and be the hardest to defend, but also the hardest to master
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[LAmbruh]

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[3ball]

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^^ that was a bad shot that worked against a nothing team like westie's thunder

That wouldn't work against championship comp, whereas mid-range works against all comp, all the time - it can't be stopped because good mid-range players make it regardless of contest

Mid-range is supposed to be contested, whereas 80% of threes are taken with 4+ feet of room, which NBA.com describes as "open" (4-6 feet) or "very open" (6+ feet)...

Threes generally need more room, and when a team is only down 1 point in the clutch, a 2-pointer is far better than a lower percentage 3.. :confusedshrug:

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[3ball]

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From Nylon Calculas



The difference between many good and great teams — and, indeed, many good and great players — is what they do in the last five seconds of the shot clock when the plan breaks down. Even the most prepared teams will run into those situations, particularly against great defenses. The deeper a team gets in the 24-second shot clock, the more difficult it becomes for that team to find layup and three-point opportunities, and the ability to knock down the mid-range jumper thus becomes king.

https://the-cauldron.com/lost-art-the-mid-range-jumper-64b64fa0f081


Cheers boys.. :cheers:

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From Nylon Calculas


[INDENT][I]The difference between many good and great teams 

[LAmbruh]

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[RRR3]

3 is greater than 2.



How does 3braincells still not get this?

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[3ball]

3 is greater than 2.

How does 3braincells still not get this?


[INDENT][I]The difference between many good and great teams 

[90sgoat]

Quit spamming the board Simon you fakkit.

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[And1AllDay]

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SPULAAAASH

3 beats 2

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[3ball]

sPULAAAASH

3 beats 2

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2's are easier to get and convert in the clutch

assuming you have great mid-range players



The deeper a team gets in the 24-second shot clock, the more difficult it becomes for that team to find layup and three-point opportunities, and the ability to knock down the mid-range jumper thus becomes king

https://the-cauldron.com/lost-art-the-mid-range-jumper-64b64fa0f081

[Manny98]

SPULAAAASH

3 beats 2

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[3ball]

I think I've made the point

You need elite mid-range to have elite, all-round scoring ability and elite clutch

[RRR3]

I think I've made the point

You need elite mid-range to have elite, all-round scoring ability and elite clutch
You really don’t.

[SpaceJam2]

I think I've made the point

You need elite mid-range to have elite, all-round scoring ability and elite clutch

Ok so since LeBron has the most postseason game winners of all time and most points scored all time you're saying he has a good mid-range game.

Thanks :cheers:

[tpols]

You really don’t.


yes you do. 3s carry very high variance and layups dry up.

Its the same reason curry and lebron would choke in crunchtime vs each other, but kyrie flourished.

Same reason an old man dirk wiped his ass with the Miami cHeat in 2011.

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[3ball]

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Shook

Thread is common knowledge

It's funny because most of you guys didn't like dame and always underrated him..

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[3ball]

yes you do. 3s carry very high variance and layups dry up.

Its the same reason curry and lebron would choke in crunchtime vs each other, but kyrie flourished.

Same reason an old man dirk wiped his ass with the Miami cHeat in 2011.


Exactly

But I guess that's how these guys' predictions are all wrong and they stan the wrong guy who gets exposed - they ignore the facts..

That's okay.. the less smart people, the better it is for the smart people

[NBAGOAT]

People assume midrange has a lot less variance but it

[knicksman]

steph built his game for 3s. His jumpshot makes it too easy because its too strong but the weakness is its too strong for the midrange. Thats why he barely jumps in his midrange jumpers or would rather attempt a floater. Thats why hes not capable of creating in the midrange area.

[RRR3]

Steph is the GOAT shooter. Lol at him not being able to do the same thing from midrange.


The muh midrang crew strikes again with their stunningly low IQ takes.

[knicksman]

Steph is the GOAT shooter. Lol at him not being able to do the same thing from midrange.


The muh midrang crew strikes again with their stunningly low IQ takes.

just goes to show that bron stans dont know shit. Theres a difference between creating your own shot and a set shooter. Until players can regularly create their own shot at the 3pt line. Mid range players will always be the king. From Jordan to kobe and now durant.

[NBAGOAT]

just goes to show that bron stans dont know shit. Theres a difference between creating your own shot and a set shooter. Until players can regularly create their own shot at the 3pt line. Mid range players will always be the king. From Jordan to kobe and now durant.

I had no idea steph wasn

[knicksman]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]I had no idea steph wasn

[NBAGOAT]

its when the pressure is the highest. Not in the regular season.

And wat did lillard just do lol. Curry certainly has plenty of great clutch playoff games as much as you want to point out his bad games.

[knicksman]

And wat did lillard just do lol. Curry certainly has plenty of great clutch playoff games as much as you want to point out his bad games.


yeah a team up 3-1 and tied is a pressure shot. whatever bruh

[3ball]

I had no idea steph wasn’t able to regularly create his own shot from the 3 pt line. Had no idea guys like harden and dame couldn’t either. Fantastic eye test analysis we got here folks

2019 Regular Season "closest defender" stats on 3-pointers


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Total 3-point attempts per game:. 11.6
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):. 9.3
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":. 80.2%

Conclusion on Curry - he needs space to shoot threes, thus hurting him in the clutch compared to good mid-range players, who don't need any room and can get the shot whenever they want



Dame "Dollar"


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Total 3-point attempts per game:. 7.9
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):. 5.7
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":. 72.2%

Conclusion on Dame - he needs space to shoot threes, thus hurting him in the clutch compared to good mid-range players, who don't need any room and can get the shot whenever they want



Harden


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Total 3-point attempts per game:. 13.0
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):. 3.6
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":. 27.7%

Conclusion on Harden - he DOESN'T need space to shoot threes, however, he only shoots about 30% on closely contested shots, so a player shooting under 50% from mid-range can match or exceed him
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[RRR3]

The Pacers tried winning with “midrange magic”


How’d that work out?

[3ball]

The Pacers tried winning with “midrange magic”


How’d that work out?
The stats don't lie - 3-pointers need to be open and layups need to be set up, while good mid-range players can get mid-range literally anytime they want (i.e. lou williams clinic last night)

Accordingly, "the deeper a team gets in the 24-second shot clock, the more difficult it becomes for that team to find layup and three-point opportunities, and the ability to knock down the mid-range jumper thus becomes king" (nylon calculus)

[RRR3]

The stats don't lie - 3-pointers need to be open and layups need to be set up, while good mid-range players can get mid-range literally anytime they want (i.e. lou williams clinic last night)

Accordingly, "the deeper a team gets in the 24-second shot clock, the more difficult it becomes for that team to find layup and three-point opportunities, and the ability to knock down the mid-range jumper thus becomes king" (nylon calculus)
That doesn’t answer my post you dolt.

Answer my post. Don’t be a coward.

[knicksman]

[QUOTE=RRR3]That doesn

[NBAGOAT]

so what would you rather do when the game on the line? Go for contested 3 or contested midrange? Seriously, you bran stans are dumb. No wonder you guys are just statnerds

Unless it

[knicksman]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Unless it

[tpols]

Steph is the GOAT shooter. Lol at him not being able to do the same thing from midrange.



See..



Im a huge chef stan, but cotdamn.. he isnt a good midrange jumpshooter. His high arc, quick hop, fast flip shot isnt built for midrange where ability to elevate and finish the shot at the top of the jump are paramount.

You dont understand basketball.

[RRR3]

“Steph isn’t a good midrange shooter”




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Ttroals ladies and gentleman

[knicksman]

[QUOTE=RRR3]

[StrongLurk]

See..



Im a huge chef stan, but cotdamn.. he isnt a good midrange jumpshooter. His high arc, quick hop, fast flip shot isnt built for midrange where ability to elevate and finish the shot at the top of the jump are paramount.

You dont understand basketball.

Steph is a good midrange jumpshooter...how could you think otherwise?

Steph for the last 6 years has shot 48.6% between 10-16 feet and 45.1% from 16 feet-3 point line...that's absolutely elite, especially for a point guard.

For reference, that's a higher percentage than Kobe from 05-11.

[RRR3]

Steph is a good midrange jumpshooter...how could you think otherwise?

Steph for the last 6 years has shot 48.6% between 10-16 feet and 45.1% from 16 feet-3 point line...that's absolutely elite, especially for a point guard.

For reference, that's a higher percentage than Kobe from 05-11.
But but but mamba mentality.













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[LAmbruh]

Steph is a good midrange jumpshooter...how could you think otherwise?

Steph for the last 6 years has shot 48.6% between 10-16 feet and 45.1% from 16 feet-3 point line...that's absolutely elite, especially for a point guard.

For reference, that's a higher percentage than Kobe from 05-11.ouch

meanwhile Kobe:

2008: 10-19 ft. - 41%, 20-27 ft. - 37%
2009: 10-19 ft. - 43%, 20-27 ft. - 37%

[tpols]

Steph is a good midrange jumpshooter...how could you think otherwise?

Steph for the last 6 years has shot 48.6% between 10-16 feet and 45.1% from 16 feet-3 point line...that's absolutely elite, especially for a point guard.

For reference, that's a higher percentage than Kobe from 05-11.


Kobe shot half his shots from 10 ft < 3 pt line... Curry shoots 15-20%.

Massive volume disparity youre trying to compare efficiency on.

Come again.

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I think I've made the point

You need elite mid-range to have elite, all-round scoring ability and elite clutch

This is a lost cause, bro. You're talking to like 2 REAL people and 7 ALTS - neither of them watch basketball nor appreciate basketball.

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Kobe shot half his shots from 10 ft < 3 pt line... Curry shoots 15-20%.

Massive volume disparity youre trying to compare efficiency on.

Come again.

They're literally using RAW mid-range numbers without any context of volume, defensive pressure, era, spacing, or anything.

[RRR3]

This is a lost cause, bro. You're talking to like 2 REAL people and 7 ALTS - neither of them watch basketball nor appreciate basketball.
That’s rich coming from the guy who literally doesn’t understand what a first option is.

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[QUOTE=RRR3]That

[RRR3]

No one on this forum is buying that.

No one on this forum believes you watch, play or understand basketball.

This is why no one takes you seriously. Best to just post some stats and play the AJ role.
Literally watching basketball right now, slugger.


I hope you don’t actually think you’re a respected poster :lol

[StrongLurk]

Kobe shot half his shots from 10 ft < 3 pt line... Curry shoots 15-20%.

Massive volume disparity youre trying to compare efficiency on.

Come again.

Bro, you said Curry was not a good midrange shooter...and I proved you wrong.

I know Kobe has higher volume and more midrange moves...but that's not the discussion. Kobe was just a quick reference.

Saying Curry isn't a good midrange shooter because of volume is like saying Klay Thompson isn't a good free throw shooter because Klay only takes 2.3 free throws a game.