Greatest FPS game of all time?

[TheMan]

Subjective of course but lets discuss first person shooting games...

First got into them in the late 90s all through the 2000s with the Medal of Honor franchise, then got into Call of Duty before getting into my all time fave franchise, Battlefield. My fave so far is Battlefield 3 but I enjoy all of them because they are different. Just got Battlefield V so I'm going jump right in but I've been enjoying the hell out of BF1 right now.

Which games you guys like?

[Patrick Chewing]

Counter-Strike and Halo.

[Facepalm]

Halo

[diamenz]

cs, halo, cod 1. SKILL based games without all of the extra fluff.

from a casual standpoint, though? i suppose the entire bf & cod franchises to start. half life & doom were kings for their time.

[highwhey]

Subjective of course but lets discuss first person shooting games...

First got into them in the late 90s all through the 2000s with the Medal of Honor franchise, then got into Call of Duty before getting into my all time fave franchise, Battlefield. My fave so far is Battlefield 3 but I enjoy all of them because they are different. Just got Battlefield V so I'm going jump right in but I've been enjoying the hell out of BF1 right now.

Which games you guys like?
battlefield 1 will forever be one of my favorite fps games ever. shame that a lot of people have moved on. i can barely find servers on pc to play.

BFV is cool too though, but the scout dynamics have changed. i can still get a lot of headshots but not like BF1. i was unreal, i'd take on an entire squad and have people amusing me of cheating :oldlol:

anyways, best FPS ever overall? probably counterstrike if you're a PC gamer. console? halo though i personally never liked it much.

[kennethgriffen]

goldeneye 64 or halo 3 multiplayer



do you and your friends stay up all night every night for multiple years playing CS/COD/battlefield?



online friends don't count btw

[Levity]

Counter-strike was the main reason soooo many PC/gaming cafes popped up in my city in the early 2000s. Highschoolers would stampede to them immediately after school got out to get a good spot.

In my adult years, i had a huge love for Overwatch. Bought a decked out gaming PC just for that game.

[kNIOKAS]

Unreal Tournament I'd say... Had a very human feel to it, even playing against AI.

[Uncle Drew]

Call of Duty 4 or MW2.

[bigkingsfan]

Any MP games has to be played in the same house, FK online, just not the same.

[egokiller]

Counter-Strike and Halo.

/thread

You know a game is legit if it

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=egokiller]/thread

You know a game is legit if it

[egokiller]

halo 2 and 3 are waaaaaay better than halo 1

:roll:

why would they play that trash

Because they understand that the skill curve in halo 1 is so much greater than halo 2 and halo 3. In halo 1, the engine is so much better because it’s projectile and not hit scan.

halo 1 2v2 is the ultimate test of skill 2nd only to counterstrike.

People with high intelligence don’t play games for just their pretty graphics.

A cod player that never played halo can jump into h2 or h3 right now an get some kills. If they jump into a game of h1, they probably aren’t getting more than 2 kills if that.

[tpols]

modern warfare 2 and halo 3 for me.

[Manny98]

Black Ops 1 and Borderlands 2

Nuketown and Firing range were my 2 favorite maps of any FPS ever

[Ben Simmons 25]

For online Duel, CA, CTF or TDM? Quake 1 or Quake 3 and anyone who says otherwise is operating on complete ignorance and or couldn't compete because of the skill ceiling. I've played them all including the trash ass bullshit still being released in 2019 on consoles.

For singleplayer? Half-Life or Half-Life 2.

[egokiller]

Black Ops 1 and Borderlands 2

Nuketown and Firing range were my 2 favorite maps of any FPS ever

BL2 is defiantly the best single player FPS.

[egokiller]

For online Duel, CA, CTF or TDM? Quake 1 or Quake 3 and anyone who says otherwise is operating on complete ignorance and or couldn't compete because of the skill ceiling. I've played them all including the trash ass bullshit still being released in 2019 on consoles.

For singleplayer? Half-Life or Half-Life 2.

You and that quake shit again.... :roll:

[Ben Simmons 25]

You and that quake shit again.... :roll:

Look dude, you said Halo was the best FPS in the other thread IIRC, and that's straight up bullshit.

Halo is garbage. First of all, disregarding the game itself, game pads are inherently complete and utter trash for playing FPSs on. Anyone who says that mouse and keyboard isn't the best input for shooters is to be completely disregarded on the subject now and forever. This is not an opinion. It's a fact.

Secondly... Halo is dumbed down for the masses along with a lot of other shooters that have been released post Halo. The reason? Regenerating shields. What kind of lame shit is that?

Do you have any idea how slow Counterstrike and Halo are in terms of gameplay, reflxes, aiming, cognitive ability, etc? lol. This is literally comparing chess to checkers. No, I'm not exaggerating.

You can say you enjoy those games more, and that's fine. But to say that they're "better" is factually incorrect.

Quake is the pinnacle of FPS gaming.

Have you ever even legitimately played a Quake duel? I'm guessing no, because you wouldn't be laughing and wallowing in your ignorance if you had.

[Im so nba'd out]

Was gears of war 1 FPS?

If not MW2,MW3, or Golden Eye wins


never was a halo guy http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif

never was a shooter guy even though i am naturally good at them and dominate unlike fighting games.

Didnt try any game that ben simmons named or borderland 2.

[Smoke117]

Never was really into First person shooters. The only ones I can think of that I Played regularly were Goldeneye 64, Halo 3, and Borderlands 2.

[Proctor]

For online Duel, CA, CTF or TDM? Quake 1 or Quake 3 and anyone who says otherwise is operating on complete ignorance and or couldn't compete because of the skill ceiling. I've played them all including the trash ass bullshit still being released in 2019 on consoles.

For singleplayer? Half-Life or Half-Life 2.
This man gets it.

[diamenz]

Look dude, you said Halo was the best FPS in the other thread IIRC, and that's straight up bullshit.

Halo is garbage. First of all, disregarding the game itself, game pads are inherently complete and utter trash for playing FPSs on. Anyone who says that mouse and keyboard isn't the best input for shooters is to be completely disregarded on the subject now and forever. This is not an opinion. It's a fact.

Secondly... Halo is dumbed down for the masses along with a lot of other shooters that have been released post Halo. The reason? Regenerating shields. What kind of lame shit is that?

Do you have any idea how slow Counterstrike and Halo are in terms of gameplay, reflxes, aiming, cognitive ability, etc? lol. This is literally comparing chess to checkers. No, I'm not exaggerating.

You can say you enjoy those games more, and that's fine. But to say that they're "better" is factually incorrect.

Quake is the pinnacle of FPS gaming.

Have you ever even legitimately played a Quake duel? I'm guessing no, because you wouldn't be laughing and wallowing in your ignorance if you had.

quake takes the cake for aim, timing and nonstop focus, cs wins out from a game sense and team play perspective. they're two entirely different beasts.

[Levity]

quake takes the cake for aim, timing and nonstop focus, cs wins out from a game sense and team play perspective. they're two entirely different beasts.

RIP diamenz. youve just woken the very angry nerd

[Ben Simmons 25]

quake takes the cake for aim, timing and nonstop focus, cs wins out from a game sense and team play perspective. they're two entirely different beasts.

You haven't the fainest idea what you're talking about. It's ok though, most people don't in this thread.

[highwhey]

it's funny bc anything can spark an argument on ISH. even video games :oldlol:

[Solidape]

Gonna go with Battlefield 1942, which has the goat intro music that still gets me hyped, followed by counter strike.

[Ben Simmons 25]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-aYcEm_V1Y

How's that for communication and game sense? CS doe... I'm not entirely sure you're going to even have an appreciation for how much information they're both keeping track of... oh well.

You guys will never listen. It's what you know.

This is Quake Champions... not a fan of it personally, and Quake 4 was dog shit, but this is the latest iteration and thus what is played. These are the two two players in NA.

[TheMan]

So am I the only guy here besides highwhey thats into Battlefield? :wtf:

I know UK2K was into BF, but no one else? Conquest nikkas?

BF >>>>

Only reason I don't dig BF Hardline that much is because I get punked on the reg in that game :lol

[scuzzy]

So am I the only guy here besides highwhey thats into Battlefield? :wtf:

I know UK2K was into BF, but no one else? Conquest nikkas?

BF >>>>

Only reason I don't dig BF Hardline that much is because I get punked on the reg in that game :lol
Battlefield is my shit :confusedshrug:


the vehicles, the huge maps, the gunplay, the mechanics, 32v32 >>>>


firestorm is lit rn

[Kungfro]

Black Ops 1 and Borderlands 2

Nuketown and Firing range were my 2 favorite maps of any FPS ever



I wouldn't call Black Ops the greatest fps ever, but I definitely put a lot of time into it. Used to play a lot with GOBB and another poster named DatdudeD. Fun times.


As far as current games Rust always looked crazy to me, I just don't have the time to commit to getting any good at it.

[hold this L]

Call of Duty 1.

[iamgine]

https://vgtimes.ru/uploads/comments_attachments/news/49423/1530295816.jpg

[fsvr54]

Return to Castle Wolfenstein is my favorite. Crazy no one's mentioned it.

Also up there:
Doom 2016
Metro.series
Half Life
Half Life 2
Original Doom
Unreal Tournament series

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=egokiller]/thread

You know a game is legit if it

[Hawker]

Man I played the hell out of Counter Strike.

I like Halo as well but I never had an Xbox so I would always suck at it.

[egokiller]

Look dude, you said Halo was the best FPS in the other thread IIRC, and that's straight up bullshit.

Halo is garbage. First of all, disregarding the game itself, game pads are inherently complete and utter trash for playing FPSs on. Anyone who says that mouse and keyboard isn't the best input for shooters is to be completely disregarded on the subject now and forever. This is not an opinion. It's a fact.

Secondly... Halo is dumbed down for the masses along with a lot of other shooters that have been released post Halo. The reason? Regenerating shields. What kind of lame shit is that?

Do you have any idea how slow Counterstrike and Halo are in terms of gameplay, reflxes, aiming, cognitive ability, etc? lol. This is literally comparing chess to checkers. No, I'm not exaggerating.

You can say you enjoy those games more, and that's fine. But to say that they're "better" is factually incorrect.

Quake is the pinnacle of FPS gaming.

Have you ever even legitimately played a Quake duel? I'm guessing no, because you wouldn't be laughing and wallowing in your ignorance if you had.

Anyone who knows anything about competitive gaming knows that the pros who play/played both games will stay CS:GO has a much higher skill curve than any version of Quake. CS:GO is the GOAT competitive PC shooter and Halo 1 on the original XBOX is the GOAT competitive console shooter. Now Quake may be more "fun" to some players than counter strike, but it will always be the game that requires less skill to play competitively. GTFO with your Quake.

https://www.reddit.com/r/QuakeChampions/comments/954awj/csgo_is_harder_than_quake/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/282440/discussions/0/613936673429333915/?l=portuguese&ctp=6

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VtIkF8pDY

[MrFonzworth]

Persona 5

[qrich]

https://images.app.goo.gl/diTKc7KpZ7rPPGsh6

[nayte]

I agree with the dude who said goldeneye. Me and my bros played that shit for ages. Then perfect dark then halo 1. They all are the best.

[scuzzy]

I agree with the dude who said goldeneye. Me and my bros played that shit for ages. Then perfect dark then halo 1. They all are the best.
For the N64 and Xbox generation they were, then DOOM/Wolfenstein on PC before that, etc


Modern day FPS are a whole new animal and athleticism


I bet the VR tech coming out in 2020 with new PS/Xbox may change the FPS genre

[LAmbruh]

slaying 12yo's on Apex right na

[RoseCity07]

Destiny multiplayer was some of the most fun I've ever had. Just becasue there were so many possibilities.

Halo and CS are also great. Reach was the most fun playing with friends.

[And1AllDay]

goldeneye 64 or halo 3 multiplayer



do you and your friends stay up all night every night for multiple years playing CS/COD/battlefield?



online friends don't count btw


Halo 3 ftw :rockon:

[sd3035]

Goldeneye for n64


Haven't played most of the recent ones because I became an adult and got a life after Goldeneye

[pauk]

Multiplayer:


Battlefield 1942
Battlefield 2
Left 4 Dead 1-2
Counter-Strike ca. 1999-2004.
Team Fortress 2
Natural Selection 1-2 (the best, most underrated & most unknown for some reason MP FPS of all time, its only on PC tho, maybe thats why, highly recommend you try NS2, once you get into it you will be stuck for years)

Other FPS MPs were also very good (new ones aswell, ie. Call of Duty, Battlefield 4 and bla bla) but they got boring way QUICK... So much focus on physics/graphics/realism, instead of gameplay.... realism is not fun...


Singleplayer:
Fallout New Vegas
Bioshock
Quake 1
Half-Life 1-2
Medal of Honor
Call of Duty 1-4
Halo

[egokiller]

Destiny multiplayer was some of the most fun I've ever had. Just becasue there were so many possibilities.

Halo and CS are also great. Reach was the most fun playing with friends.

The problem with Destiny is that every time someone found a good gun, Bungie would nerf it because the little fucc bois would complain. I had a Vex Mythoclast and was cleaning house. Fucc bois kept whining about how it's not fair that a weapon obtained in the PVE raid can be used in PVP MP. That was the whole point of the game, to merge the PVP and PVE experience. :lol

If you suck to the point where you can't beat a simple raid, it's time to put the controller down.

[diamenz]

Goldeneye for n64


Haven't played most of the recent ones because I became an adult and got a life after Goldeneye

:applause:

[fsvr54]

What a joke lol. As if gaming isn't a valid "adult" hobby. Have fun stressing out over nonsense and losing hair over mortagage payments mr adult.

[diamenz]

dlt

[Uncle Drew]

I'm missing the days of MW2 when game lobby chats were still a thing. Boys became men in that place.

[highwhey]

I'm missing the days of MW2 when game lobby chats were still a thing. Boys became men in that place.the amount of sheer racism in those lobbies would get them shutdown asap nowadays. modern warafare 2 was my jam tho.

this was my fave map: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--rM8ft6jE--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j3vwol0fngdjpg.jpg

[CelticBaller]

Modern Warfare 2 before January


The first 2 months of that game were so ****ing perfect, after that the glitches and exploit started getting popular and the devs were in a huge lawsuit with Activision

[TheMan]

the amount of sheer racism in those lobbies would get them shutdown asap nowadays. modern warafare 2 was my jam tho.

this was my fave map: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--rM8ft6jE--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j3vwol0fngdjpg.jpg
That map is from MW4

[highwhey]

That map is from MW4
:roll: my bad

[sundog67]

The Half Life series including both Portals are probably my favorites.

Might be showing my age but the OG Wolfenstein 3D, and Duke Nukem 3D games consumed much of my youth gaming. Those games (despite limitations) were amazing. All the reboots seemed incredibly lame to me, although the Duke one was kind of funny. :confusedshrug:

[Ben Simmons 25]

Duke Nukem 3D is one of the most amazing games ever released and second only to the Half-Life games as far as singleplayer goes.

The multiplayer experience wasn't bad either, but it pales in comparison to Quake.

[CelticBaller]

:roll: my bad
You

[highwhey]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]You

[Ben Simmons 25]

6 hour playthru of Duke lol...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUha7nQl5Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUha7nQl5Q&t=9273 LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUha7nQl5Q&t=14552 LOL!


Oh man the nostalgia is real... this game was literally every teenage boy's dream... naked women, borderline pornography, gratuitous violence, heaping amounts of pop culture references, unprecedented environment interactivity(breaking toilets and drinking from them for health, etc...)... I mean, this game had it all... lol.

So. many. pop. culture. references.

Just an amazing game play experience.

[scuzzy]

I got Call of Duty Modern Warfare remastered free on PSplus last month but haven't DL'd it


How is the campaign?

[egokiller]

Why is the skill curve of quake so inferior to a halo 1 on the console?

I mean look at this....:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTp6KeTTMUc

Now compare that to halo where there's actually more to the game than walking around a map getting weapons and shooting someone. In halo, the physics are such that if you aim in a certain spot, your nade will always land in that spot enabling you to blow actual weapons and power up to various places on the map. Because of this, pro players have to memorize all the nade points to even have a chance at being competitive and they have to know when to throw the nade depending on where they are at on any give map. If someone get's camo and rockets, it's good for 4 kills. Fighting for the power ups is what 2v2 and 1v1 halo is all about.

halonades.com

Then you have the intricate respawn system. In 2v2, your placement on the map as the player who is still alive and not on a reswpan dictates where your teammate will spawn. There are certain locations on the map where if you stand there, it's a random spawn. This completely changes the game as all of the pro players are constantly watching spawns. Fail to random your teammate properly or force spawn him properly, and you will lose. Pro players memorize all the spawns on the maps.

halospawns.com

Then we have the power ups camo and over shield. These respawn either every 1 minute or 2 minutes depending on the map, so all the pro players have these timers which they start as soon as the map loads. When a power up is about to spawn, you may see one nade be thrown from one direction landing near it, someone else baiting it, and another guy searching the common nade from spots hoping to get the drop on the other player.. Your setup prior to power up respawns is critical.

None of the other halos have to deal with all of the above. Only the first 1.

Next you have the weapons. It takes skill to be able to 3 shot someone in the head. Most pros average 5 shots with a pistol to kill someone. The weapon sandbox is perfectly balanced for this game. Best of all, the weapons aren't hit scan, they are projectile so you have to lead your target. The combination of strafing, ducking, jumping along with projectile aiming makes it the ultimate FPS combat scenario as opposed to other games that are hit scan. Much harder to snipe in halo 1 than the rest of the halos.

Next there is the aspect of split screen. You have to be good at not only watching your own screen, but others as well. With everything going on, this can be one of the hardest things to master.

Fall damage.
If you don't crouch when you land from a fall, you take massive damage/die. None of this shit where you can just drop down from anywhere and not take damage.

Portals:
You can sit in a portal and wait for someone to come through and melee them in the back. You can also stand in-front of a portal with a zoomed sniper. These portal games make for some interesting combat situations because sometimes a player will go through the portal backwards anticipating that the other player will be setup for the back wack melee. Or the player may stand on the other side of the portal anticipating that the guy is going to come in backwards and then get the back wack kill.

In a nutshell, the complexity and difficulty of being good at all the above results in a much higher skill curve over over Quake and the rest of the halos in the series. Anyone saying otherwise just hasn't experienced playing halo against good players. It's the 3d chess of competitive console FPS games. Nothing tops it.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Why is the skill curve of quake so inferior to a halo 1 on the console?

I mean look at this....:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTp6KeTTMUc

Now compare that to halo where there's actually more to the game than walking around a map getting weapons and shooting someone. In halo, the physics are such that if you aim in a certain spot, your nade will always land in that spot enabling you to blow actual weapons and power up to various places on the map. Because of this, pro players have to memorize all the nade points to even have a chance at being competitive and they have to know when to throw the nade depending on where they are at on any give map. If someone get's camo and rockets, it's good for 4 kills. Fighting for the power ups is what 2v2 and 1v1 halo is all about.

halonades.com

Then you have the intricate respawn system. In 2v2, your placement on the map as the player who is still alive and not on a reswpan dictates where your teammate will spawn. There are certain locations on the map where if you stand there, it's a random spawn. This completely changes the game as all of the pro players are constantly watching spawns. Fail to random your teammate properly or force spawn him properly, and you will lose. Pro players memorize all the spawns on the maps.

halospawns.com

Then we have the power ups camo and over shield. These respawn either every 1 minute or 2 minutes depending on the map, so all the pro players have these timers which they start as soon as the map loads. When a power up is about to spawn, you may see one nade be thrown from one direction landing near it, someone else baiting it, and another guy searching the common nade from spots hoping to get the drop on the other player.. Your setup prior to power up respawns is critical.

None of the other halos have to deal with all of the above. Only the first 1.

Next you have the weapons. It takes skill to be able to 3 shot someone in the head. Most pros average 5 shots with a pistol to kill someone. The weapon sandbox is perfectly balanced for this game. Best of all, the weapons aren't hit scan, they are projectile so you have to lead your target. The combination of strafing, ducking, jumping along with projectile aiming makes it the ultimate FPS combat scenario as opposed to other games that are hit scan. Much harder to snipe in halo 1 than the rest of the halos.

Next there is the aspect of split screen. You have to be good at not only watching your own screen, but others as well. With everything going on, this can be one of the hardest things to master.

Fall damage.
If you don't crouch when you land from a fall, you take massive damage/die. None of this shit where you can just drop down from anywhere and not take damage.

Portals:
You can sit in a portal and wait for someone to come through and melee them in the back. You can also stand in-front of a portal with a zoomed sniper. These portal games make for some interesting combat situations because sometimes a player will go through the portal backwards anticipating that the other player will be setup for the back wack melee. Or the player may stand on the other side of the portal anticipating that the guy is going to come in backwards and then get the back wack kill.

In a nutshell, the complexity and difficulty of being good at all the above results in a much higher skill curve over over Quake and the rest of the halos in the series. Anyone saying otherwise just hasn't experienced playing halo against good players. It's the 3d chess of competitive console FPS games. Nothing tops it.

I honestly don't even know what to say at this point. At first I thought you were trolling and now it's clear you aren't. lol.

Aside from everything you're saying being a joke, I never said Quake Champions(which is still worlds apart from Halo, lol). I was talking about Quake 1 and Quake 3 (QuakeLive).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EIsrOYFpCg&t=543 (keep in mind they don't have visual displays on the armor and mega respawn times that we as spectators do)

[Ben Simmons 25]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8IOvXPg_Gk

All you see is run and gun... the game is so much deeper than that, I don't have time to explain it all.

Look at that video... that's a guy that's got an aimbot and likely wallhacks as well... there are dozens of videos of this sort of thing against Quake pros... and the Quake pros always win.

Because of their aim being better than a literal aimbot? No.

Because they understand positioning, item timing, intuition, in addition to their natural talent for aiming, etc.

[egokiller]

I honestly don't even know what to say at this point. At first I thought you were trolling and now it's clear you aren't. lol.

Aside from everything you're saying being a joke, I never said Quake Champions(which is still worlds apart from Halo, lol). I was talking about Quake 1 and Quake 3 (QuakeLive).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EIsrOYFpCg&t=543 (keep in mind they don't have visual displays on the armor and mega respawn times that we as spectators do)

None of the Quakes have enough competitive aspects compared to halo for them to them to even be considered as having the same skill curve as halo. Play a game enough and you have a mental clock on when shit is going to re-spawn.

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]You

[GimmeThat]

Proof long distance relationships does not work

[diamenz]

nukem 3d is a classic. forever running into walls tapping space bar looking for secrets. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dukenukem/images/a/ab/Striper_PNG.png

anyone remember rise of the triad? i remember playing that shit on my first pc along with quarantine.

[red1]

doom
counterstrike
halo
battlefield


only problem I have with shooter games is that they suck up too much of your time. can burn entire afternoons and evenings sitting on the couch.

[fsvr54]

doom
counterstrike
halo
battlefield


only problem I have with shooter games is that they suck up too much of your time. can burn entire afternoons and evenings sitting on the couch.

:biggums:

Yeah, it's called gaming lol. That's normal.

I guess you've never touched an RPG.

[egokiller]

:biggums:

Yeah, it's called gaming lol. That's normal.

I guess you've never touched an RPG.

Problem with an RPG is you walk away and you didn

[fsvr54]

Problem with an RPG is you walk away and you didn’t impact anyone other than your own enjoyment. With a FPS, you got some incel on the other end of the connection that you can dominate and make his gaming experience a living hell. That’s much more fun.

Depends who you ask... and what you want out of gaming.

Single players games are infinitely better if you ask me.

[egokiller]

Depends who you ask... and what you want out of gaming.

Single players games are infinitely better if you ask me.

Both have their place but making some lil fucc boi rage quit in a game that he soaks his life into always puts an ear to ear smile on my face.

[diamenz]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Problem with an RPG is you walk away and you didn