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Manny98
04-26-2019, 07:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

ArbitraryWater
04-26-2019, 07:55 PM
Very informative video on probably the GOAT perimeter defender

E_Stamkos
04-26-2019, 08:06 PM
Didn't watch.

Don't need to waste my time watching some dipshit on YouTube clinging to the past.

Anyone with semi-functioning eyes can tell you that Lebron has been a total bum on defense for a few years now.

It is what it is.

Accept it and move on with your stupid life.

Playoff mode activated

E_Stamkos
04-26-2019, 08:07 PM
Very informative video on probably the GOAT perimeter defender

You're not very smart.

STATUTORY
04-26-2019, 08:08 PM
dumb contrarian hot takes farming clicks from naive plebs and desperate stans like the OP

kennethgriffen
04-26-2019, 08:14 PM
that was the dumbest video ever. lebron cheats on defense routinely and for every one or two plays it works there 10 where it doesn't and the lakers get exposed hard. which is why they're routinely dismantled by other teams and have 120 scored on them with ease

lebron plays passing lanes, sags off, cherry picks rebounds, roams... this can attribute to some good challenges but leaves shooters wide open. and defending the 3 is more important than giving help defense near the rim


lebron is a horrible defender and OP is a ph@ggot

Manny98
04-26-2019, 08:21 PM
that was the dumbest video ever. lebron cheats on defense routinely and for every one or two plays it works there 10 where it doesn't and the lakers get exposed hard. which is why they're routinely dismantled by other teams and have 120 scored on them with ease

lebron plays passing lanes, sags off, cherry picks rebounds, roams... this can attribute to some good challenges but leaves shooters wide open. and defending the 3 is more important than giving help defense near the rim


lebron is a horrible defender and OP is a ph@ggot
You don't understand basketball LeBron deliberately leaves poor shooters wide open because it's smart basketball to let them shoot.

PickernRoller
04-26-2019, 08:28 PM
dumb contrarian hot takes farming clicks from naive plebs and desperate stans like the OP

We're done here.

SpaceJam2
04-26-2019, 08:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

https://i.postimg.cc/PJw2h6g9/ezgif-com-gif-maker.gif

G0ATbe
04-26-2019, 08:54 PM
Great analysis . :applause: . He's not dominant anymore but his decline on that end is so exagerrated.

plowking
04-26-2019, 09:24 PM
His man defense looks pretty average at this age, but to be expected.

Still very smart and one of the best team defenders in the league.

LAmbruh
04-26-2019, 09:28 PM
For someone who has to carry the scoring, playmaking and rebounding load his defense is still elite

In his prime he was leagues best man 2 man defender and rim protector

Guarded 1-5 any given night

ImKobe
04-26-2019, 09:33 PM
For someone who has to carry the scoring, playmaking and rebounding load his defense is still elite

In his prime he was leagues best man 2 man defender and rim protector

Guarded 1-5 any given night

Why did Dwight Howard drop 40 on him in elimination?

SpaceJam2
04-26-2019, 09:43 PM
For someone who has to carry the scoring, playmaking and rebounding load his defense is still elite

In his prime he was leagues best man 2 man defender and rim protector

Guarded 1-5 any given night

Big facts :applause:

SpaceJam2
04-26-2019, 09:45 PM
Why did Dwight Howard drop 40 on him in elimination?

Bron dropped 39/8/8 on DPOY prime D12 for the entire series

Next

ImKobe
04-26-2019, 09:46 PM
Bron dropped 39/8/8 on DPOY prime D12 for the entire series

Next

Bran scored 25 pts on 40%FG vs Howard's 40 pts on 67%FG in elimination

why didn't Lebron stop Dwight Howard? Aren't they the same size?

This "could guard 1-5" narrative needs to stop. Lebron was an excellent help defender at one point but he was never capable of taking on the toughest defensive assignment for more than a couple possessions.

Didn't KD score at over 60% while being guarded by Lebron in the Finals? KD hit daggers on Lebron at his own house in B2B Finals.

SpaceJam2
04-26-2019, 09:49 PM
Bran scored 25 pts on 40%FG vs Howard's 40 pts on 67%FG in elimination

why didn't Lebron stop Dwight Howard? Aren't they the same size?

This "could guard 1-5" narrative needs to stop. Lebron was an excellent help defender at one point but he was never capable of taking on the toughest defensive assignment for more than a couple possessions.

Didn't KD score at over 60% while being guarded by Lebron in the Finals? KD hit daggers on Lebron at his own house in B2B Finals.

Um...
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Bron dropped 39/8/8 on DPOY prime D12 for the entire series

Next

warriorfan
04-26-2019, 09:56 PM
Um...
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Bron dropped 39/8/8 on DPOY prime D12 for the entire series

Next

Empty stats

Bronbron23
04-26-2019, 10:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history
This is why advance stats don't mean shit. Anyone with a brain and two eyes can see LeBron's defence has been at best mediocre lately and I'm a Bron fan man.

egokiller
04-26-2019, 10:34 PM
LeBron James is a 6 time finals loser and a bad defender that caters to weak stans who were not fortunate enough to witness GOAT MJ who was an actual two way player.

Next.

And1AllDay
04-26-2019, 10:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

We stay winning

https://media.giphy.com/media/2rDzzCzIKbcJy/giphy.gifhttps://media.giphy.com/media/2rDzzCzIKbcJy/giphy.gif

And1AllDay
04-26-2019, 10:51 PM
LeBron James is a 6 time finals loser and a bad defender that caters to weak stans who were not fortunate enough to witness GOAT MJ who was an actual two way player.

Next.

But...Bron has a better Defense Rating in the playoffs so your wrong bruh :oldlol: :oldlol:

2 ez

Oh you didnt know damn did no one tell poor EgoKilled ?

You didn't know Bron was better defensively then Mike? Please tell us more about how good Mike was on defense since Bron was even better :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/zvvKHqXh/udidntknow.png
Bron: BLK, BLK%, DBPM, BPM, DRtg, VORP
Mike: STL, STL%

:(

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Yikes..

egokiller
04-26-2019, 11:11 PM
It's not hard to put up decent defensive stats when you are playing shit teams in a weak conference and have only played 13 teams in the post season with 50 or more rs wins. :roll:

MJ has 9 All-Defensive first team selections while Lebron who has played more seasons only has 6 to match his 6 NBA finals losses. :roll:

Try again wheels

Damn this is too easy.

LAmbruh
04-26-2019, 11:14 PM
But...Bron has a better Defense Rating in the playoffs so your wrong bruh :oldlol: :oldlol:

2 ez

Oh you didnt know damn did no one tell poor EgoKilled ?

You didn't know Bron was better defensively then Mike? Please tell us more about how good Mike was on defense since Bron was even better :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/zvvKHqXh/udidntknow.png
Bron: BLK, BLK%, DBPM, BPM, DRtg, VORP
Mike: STL, STL%

:(

N
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x
t

Yikes..

my boy All1day1 taking these kids to school :applause:

34-24 Footwork
04-27-2019, 12:22 AM
Still very smart and one of the best team defenders in the league.


Wow @ this idiot. Imagine d1ckriding this hard :lol

plowking
04-27-2019, 12:40 AM
Wow @ this idiot. Imagine d1ckriding this hard :lol

You and my misses are the only ones this obsessed with me.

But then again, you have Bron as well.

BigShotBob
04-27-2019, 12:40 AM
How the hell is Dwight supposed to stop Lebron from grabbing defensive rebounds and passing to shooters? :oldlol:

nayte
04-27-2019, 01:24 AM
That doesn

And1AllDay
04-27-2019, 01:47 AM
my boy All1day1 taking these kids to school :applause:

LAmbruh is a real one :cheers: Real recognize real

https://i.postimg.cc/RCgKyZ1z/2016-Salute.jpg

All a sudden you noticed they got quiet about defense :oldlol: :oldlol:

No more defense talk all of a sudden :roll:

And1AllDay
04-27-2019, 10:19 AM
But...Bron has a better Defense Rating in the playoffs so your wrong bruh :oldlol: :oldlol:

2 ez

Oh you didnt know damn did no one tell poor EgoKilled ?

You didn't know Bron was better defensively then Mike? Please tell us more about how good Mike was on defense since Bron was even better :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/zvvKHqXh/udidntknow.png
Bron: BLK, BLK%, DBPM, BPM, DRtg, VORP
Mike: STL, STL%

:(

N
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x
t

Yikes..

Hey where did everyone go all the sudden? :confusedshrug:

imdaman99
04-27-2019, 10:34 AM
I remember watching the last time Porzingis played against Lebron. KP was killing them all game, until Lebron locked his ass up in the 4th. Imagine shutting down a 7'3 unicorn :biggums:

And1AllDay
04-27-2019, 06:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

Issa bloodbath

We stay winning :banana:

NBAGOAT
04-27-2019, 06:46 PM
Lebron certainly takes more plays off now, is a lot slower moving his feet, and isn

TheCorporation
04-27-2019, 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Lebron certainly takes more plays off now, is a lot slower moving his feet, and isn

BigShotBob
04-27-2019, 08:38 PM
Give it up 3ball :lol

Unless you're willing to concede that Jordan was severely overrated as a defender considering he has put up considerably less defensive statistics than LeBron? So which is it, and please choose wisely?

a) LeBron is "slightly above average" but that means Jordan is certainly below average

b) LeBron is an amazing defender, like Jordan, albeit LeBron is still a bit better

There is no statistic alive that accurately measures defense. Give it up.

SpaceJam
04-27-2019, 10:57 PM
This is actually a well informed video but of course the trolls will dismiss it. He isn't a top tier defender anymore but he also isn't as terrible as they want you to believe

34-24 Footwork
04-28-2019, 12:36 AM
There is no statistic alive that accurately measures defense. Give it up.

This x 100000


I don't wanna see the DPM (or whatever the fvck these nerds use) of Lebron when he's guarding Michael Kidd Gilchrist or some other random eastern conference scrub and playing free safety.

TheCorporation
04-28-2019, 12:46 AM
This x 100000


I don't wanna see the DPM (or whatever the fvck these nerds use) of Lebron when he's guarding Michael Kidd Gilchrist or some other random eastern conference scrub and playing free safety.

So dont post facts?

Riiight

Imagine playing with Dennis Rodman for 3 years and Scottie Pippen for nearly your entire career and you have a worse defensive rating than LeBron. Who were LeBron's defensive stoppers again? :lol

TheCorporation
05-16-2019, 10:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxlu7nYdhU&feature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

Bron boys win

Its all we do :banana:

LostCause
05-16-2019, 10:58 AM
Picture this “narrative “ even existing with MJ

Manny98
05-16-2019, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=LostCause]Picture this

sportjames23
05-16-2019, 11:05 AM
MJ played in an era where superstars didn't get viewed under a microscope

Bitch, please. There may have been no social media back then, but there was 24-hour sports and news. And people writing "tell-all" books, like "The Jordan Rules" and "Michael & Me".

So just stop, baby boi.

TheCorporation
05-16-2019, 11:13 AM
Bitch, please. There may have been no social media back then, but there was 24-hour sports and news. And people writing "tell-all" books, like "The Jordan Rules" and "Michael & Me".

So just stop, baby boi.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:

NBASTATMAN
05-16-2019, 12:49 PM
lebron defensive rating better than KD's.. KD is in his prime.. LEBRON GOATING WITH 56 K MINUTES ON THEM LEGS..

Def one of the greatest defenders ever.. Got RObbed FOR THAT DPOY the year GASOL won it.. :facepalm

superduper
05-16-2019, 12:51 PM
lebron defensive rating better than KD's.. KD is in his prime.. LEBRON GOATING WITH 56 K MINUTES ON THEM LEGS..

Def one of the greatest defenders ever.. Got RObbed FOR THAT DPOY the year GASOL won it.. :facepalm

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Do you have any idea how this is calculated or how it translates to true on court defensive impact? Or do you just spew it blindly?

TheCorporation
05-16-2019, 12:53 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Do you have any idea how this is calculated or how it translates to true on court defensive impact? Or do you just spew it blindly?

Do fax hurt?

superduper
05-16-2019, 12:57 PM
Do fax hurt?

Gamescore, VORP, Drtg!! :mad: :mad:

I win.

bullettooth
05-16-2019, 01:17 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/7Toe9ML7M9aw7Sd3f6/source.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/5w2fFuVr3v3E28Pggu/source.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/k5XJ92Lg/jabroni-lames-defense.gif

TheCorporation
05-16-2019, 01:38 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/k5XJ92Lg/jabroni-lames-defense.gif

LeChuck Norris

:bowdown:

sportjames23
05-16-2019, 01:40 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/7Toe9ML7M9aw7Sd3f6/source.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/5w2fFuVr3v3E28Pggu/source.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/k5XJ92Lg/jabroni-lames-defense.gif



Shut this thread DOWN. :cheers:

superduper
05-16-2019, 02:16 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/7Toe9ML7M9aw7Sd3f6/source.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/5w2fFuVr3v3E28Pggu/source.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/k5XJ92Lg/jabroni-lames-defense.gif

:roll:

What his DRating doe!! :mad: :cry:

TheCorporation
05-16-2019, 02:34 PM
:roll:

What his DRating doe!! :mad: :cry:

What is MJs? Oh :(

superduper
05-16-2019, 02:37 PM
What is MJs? Oh :(

Basketball is played on paper.

#LeFam