What if 2009 Dwight got Wade/Bosh instead of Lebron?

[3ball]

How many Finals for Dwight vs. Lebron going forward? (assuming good health)

Lebron couldn't get past Dwight normally, so what would he do now that Dwight has a super-team??
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[bigkingsfan]

What if MJ never got Pip?

[SouBeachTalents]

0 Finals after 2011

[NBASTATMAN]

How many Finals for Dwight vs. Lebron? (assuming good health)

Lebron couldn't get past Dwight normally, so what would he do now that Dwight has a super-team??


Better than he did with Kobe.. :lol


Imagine Pete Myers playing instead of MJ in 94 lol

[TheCorporation]

Better than he did with Kobe.. :lol TOO EASY.. Wade da man

[3ball]

Better than he did with Kobe.. :lol
Kobe got Dwight after the back injury

The OP assumes Wade/Bosh get a healthy, prime dwight - the same one that exposed Lebron


So how many Finals for Dwight vs. Lebron going forward if Dwight got Wade/Bosh instead of Lebron??

Lebron couldn't get past Dwight normally, so what would he do now that Dwight has a super-team??

Doesn't feel quite fair when 1 guy teams up, does it? :kobe:

[TheCorporation]

Kobe got Dwight after the back injury

The OP assumes Wade/Bosh get a healthy, prime dwight - the same one that exposed Lebron


So how many Finals for Dwight vs. Lebron going forward if Dwight got Wade/Bosh instead of Lebron??

Lebron couldn't get past Dwight normally, so what would he do now that Dwight has a super-team??

Doesn't feel quite fair when 1 guy teams up, does it? :kobe:

You're talking about help as an MJ stan? 1-9 ring a bell?

Why do you make me post this again...Ugh, here we go baby boy

https://i.postimg.cc/wBLQqPp4/AlongCameScottie.jpg

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe got Dwight after the back injury

The OP assumes Wade/Bosh get a healthy, prime dwight - the same one that exposed Lebron


So how many Finals for Dwight vs. Lebron going forward if Dwight got Wade/Bosh instead of Lebron??

Lebron couldn't get past Dwight normally, so what would he do now that Dwight has a super-team??

Doesn't feel quite fair when 1 guy teams up, does it? :kobe:

DHOWARD WAS STILL ALL NBA when he played with kobrick so no excuses. And even after he let .. So shut up

[AlternativeAcc.]

They win zero titles

Wheres the shooting? Wheres the depth?

Not to mention Wade/Bosh fell off a cliff shortly after teaming with LeBron...

So in that scenario you have three players whose career go downhill after injuries

So zero titles.


Yikes

[G0ATbe]

Dwight before Kobe/Gasol = NBA finals

Lebron before Wade/Bosh = NBA finals

MJ before PJax/Pippen/Rodman etc = 1/9:eek:

[TheCorporation]

Dwight before Kobe/Gasol = NBA finals

Lebron before Wade/Bosh = NBA finals

MJ before PJax/Pippen/Rodman etc = 1/9:eek:

Shut. it. down.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[3ball]

They win zero titles

Wheres the shooting? Wheres the depth?

Not to mention Wade/Bosh fell off a cliff shortly after teaming with LeBron...

So in that scenario you have three players whose career go downhill after injuries

So zero titles.


Yikes
What would happen to lebron though - he couldn't beat Dwight straight-up, so what happens if Dwight got Wade/Bosh as well?

Btw, Wade was lights out in the 2014 ECF - his 20/5/5 on 55% was better than 90% of Pippen's series.. Wade only played bad in those Finals because the whole team was playing bad - this included lebron, played worse than Wade when the games were being contested

So your claims needed fact checks - Wade was in his prime in 2011 and 2012, and still very good in 2013/2014 (a legit all-star thru 2016).. and Bosh was mostly in his prime and a perennial all-star thru 2016

[NBASTATMAN]

So your claims needed fact checks - Wade was in his prime in 2011 and 2012, and still very good in 2013/2014 (a legit all-star thru 2016).. and Bosh was mostly in his prime and a perennial all-star thru 2016


y WERENT they makING the playoffs without Bron even after gettgn an all star to replace him..

When Boshleft the Heat they were not in theplayoffs.. GOAT BRON THANKS FOR MAKING OUR CASE STRONGER DUDE:cheers:

[3ball]

Dwight before Kobe/Gasol = NBA finals

Lebron before Wade/Bosh = NBA finals

MJ before PJax/Pippen/Rodman etc = 1/9:eek:
he only carried a star-less cast ONE TIME when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd)

he otherwise needed super-teams from 11-17', and a perennial all-star 2nd option in 18'.. and a very weak conference overall of course (no playoffs in the West)

He infact left Cleveland in 10' because he couldn't beat Dwight and make the Finals like he did in 07'... But again, what if Dwight had teamed up instead? How many Finals for lebron??

[AlternativeAcc.]

What would happen to lebron though - he couldn't beat Dwight straight-up, so what happens if Dwight got Wade/Bosh as well?

Btw, Wade was lights out in the 2014 ECF - his 20/5/5 on 55% was better than 90% of Pippen's series.. Wade only played bad in those Finals because the whole team was playing bad - this included lebron, played worse than Wade when the games were being contested

So your claims needed fact checks - Wade was in his prime in 2011 and 2012, and still very good in 2013/2014 (a legit all-star thru 2016).. and Bosh was mostly in his prime and a perennial all-star thru 2016
Jordan couldn't get past Isiah straight up

Or Shaq straight up in 95 (way before his peak years)


Why not? :confusedshrug:

[NBASTATMAN]

Jordan couldn't get past Isiah straight up

Or Shaq straight up in 95 (way before his peak years)


Why not? :confusedshrug:

mj only beat The Pistons after IT had a bad injury.. So he was lucky to get that big break.. IT was a killer even more so than MJ.. If you disagree than you didnt watch bball in the 80's

[3ball]

Jordan couldn't get past Isiah straight up

Or Shaq straight up in 95 (way before his peak years)


Why not? :confusedshrug:
HOF's Isiah/dumars/rodman were only 29/27/28 years old when MJ beat them in 1991 - plus the Pistons had 2 additional 3x all-stars (laimbeer/aguirre)

So MJ beat a much better team - his bulls only had 1 HOF pippen.. that's it

Lebron never beat b2b champs and needed an extra all-star for all his rings.. he was also never a 1 man show - he needed an equal scoring partner and closer, whereas MJ was the closer and always scored 10-20 more than pip to win all Finals

[And1AllDay]

Didnt Mike lose to Isiah Thomas 3 years in a row before Bird 2 years in a row?


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[egokiller]

Damn, 3ball making lestans cry over the hard facts. :applause:

[And1AllDay]

Number of seasons where Mike made it out of 1st round w/o Scottie = 0


Number of seasons where Scottie made it out of 1st round w/o Mike = 2 (1994, 2000)


:eek:

[3ball]

Didnt Mike lose to Isiah Thomas 3 years in a row before Bird 2 years in a row?


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-29cbbd506e049abae1ccd352d920b504

https://i.postimg.cc/8krqsSKd/Pipbatman.jpg
MJ led the bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen, including 3 championship runs (91/93/97)

In addition to MJ's team-leading passing, he's averaged 10-20 more than pippen to win every Finals, while lebron needs an equal scoring partner and closer to win a Finals

[And1AllDay]

MJ led the bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen, including 3 championship runs (91/93/97)

In addition to MJ's team-leading passing, he's averaged 10-20 more than pippen to win every Finals, while lebron needs an equal scoring partner and closer to win a Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/k4RZypFv/FB-IMG-1525375107033.jpg

:no: :no:

[And1AllDay]

Number of seasons where Mike made it out of 1st round w/o Scottie = 0


Number of seasons where Scottie made it out of 1st round w/o Mike = 2 (1994, 2000)


:eek:

3ball?

[3ball]

https://i.postimg.cc/k4RZypFv/FB-IMG-1525375107033.jpg

:no: :no:
^^^ Those stats show MJ carrying his 2nd option in a way lebron never did, or anyone else in history, except for Wilt


PPG

17' Lebron - 26.4
17' K Irving - 25.2

15' Lebron - 25.3
15' K Irving - 21.7

16' Lebron - 25.3
16' K Irving - 19.6


lebron only averaged 1-5 more than Kyrie, and only averaged 1-7 more than Wade from 11-14', while MJ scored 10-28 more than pippen between 88-98', with more assists

Also, lebron had HOF's at 3rd option, while grant was a role player.. ultimately, MJ won 6 rings with 1 all-star teammate (6 appearances), while lebron needed 6 all-stars (15 appearances) to win only 3 rings..

[And1AllDay]

^^^ Those stats show MJ carrying his 2nd option in a way lebron never did, or anyone else in history, except for Wilt


PPG

17' Lebron - 26.4
17' K Irving - 25.2

15' Lebron - 25.3
15' K Irving - 21.7

16' Lebron - 25.3
16' K Irving - 19.6


lebron only averaged 1-5 more than Kyrie, and only averaged 1-7 more than Wade from 11-14', while MJ scored 10-28 more than pippen between 88-98', with more assists

Also, lebron had HOF's at 3rd option, while grant was a role player.. ultimately, MJ won 6 rings with 1 all-star teammate (6 appearances), while lebron needed 6 all-stars (15 appearances) to win only 3 rings..


:roll: :roll:

Your pure comedy bruh

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[3ball]

:roll: :roll:

Your pure comedy bruh

https://i.postimg.cc/dVTXP3fm/8bd81a50eb70b4f479f5a77d891c133d.jpg
^^^ Needed an equal scoring partner and closer.. MJ's Finals are bigger carry-jobs and more clutch...

The bulls were a 1-man show on offense where mj commanded full defensive attention, while kyrie commands attention away from lebron

[And1AllDay]

^^^ Needed an equal scoring partner and closer.. MJ's Finals are bigger carry-jobs and more clutch

Does equal mean less? Like is 3 points per game less mean equal :oldlol:

Your cute

Also to make sense of what your saying

"Needed an equal scoring partner" TO BEAT A 73 WIN TEAM.

Bron didnt face soupcans please compare Horancek 10.7 ppg to Klays numbers.

ILL WAIT

Check mate

[3ball]

Does equal mean less? Like is 3 points per game less mean equal :oldlol:

Your cute

Also to make sense of what your saying

"Needed an equal scoring partner" TO BEAT A 73 WIN TEAM.

Bron didnt face soupcans please compare Horancek 10.7 ppg to Klays numbers.

ILL WAIT

Check mate
Lebron needed a near-equal scoring partner (within 2-5 points), while MJ won all Finals as a 1 man show that commanded full the defensive attention (10-20 more than 2nd option)

Kyrie/Wade were considered lethal scorers and closers that commanded double teams, while pippen virtually never commanded a double, closed or was considered a lethal scorer

[SpaceJam2]

Lebron needed a near-equal scoring partner (within 2-5 points), while MJ won all Finals as a 1 man show that commanded full the defensive attention (10-20 more than 2nd option)

Kyrie/Wade were considered lethal scorers and closers that commanded double teams, while pippen virtually never commanded a double, closed or was considered a lethal scorer

Pull up Klay's numbers and Hornacek's numbers :lol

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

Pull up Klay's numbers and Hornacek's numbers :lol
Regular Season

J HORNACEK:f. 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:f. 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


:facepalm ... Klay sucks
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[SpaceJam2]

Regular Season

J HORNACEK:f. 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:f. 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg



:facepalm ... Klay sucks

FINALS PLEASE

THANKS

Get a clue nice try 1ball...:facepalm

[3ball]

FINALS PLEASE

THANKS

Get a clue nice try 1ball...


Klay sucks bro.

:roll:..


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[3ball]

FINALS PLEASE for MJ and Hornacek

THANKS


When the goat was guarding Hornacek? You want that to count???... :whatever:.. nice try

Face it - Hornacek destroys Klay - now maybe you're starting to see how good those jazz were, and how they made Shaq Hakeem, and Duncan/Pop their bitch to make the 98' Finals (the most talent ever beat to make a Finals)

[And1AllDay]

When the goat was guarding Hornacek? You want that to count???... :whatever:.. nice try

Face it - Hornacek destroys Klay - now maybe you're starting to see how good those jazz were, and how they made Shaq Hakeem, and Duncan/Pop their bitch to make the 98' Finals (the most talent ever beat to make a Finals)

Post or you lose bruh you know you wont 3baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[scuzzy]

Well, we know what happened when he got Pau, Nash and Kobe

[NBASTATMAN]

Regular Season

J HORNACEK:f. 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:f. 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


:facepalm ... Klay sucks
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If we use those same stats to compare mj and bron than Bron is better than mj.:roll: Bron blows mj out when using VORP

[NBASTATMAN]

Well, we know what happened when he got Pau, Nash and Kobe
:roll:

[Smoke117]

Why are you saying if Dwight got Wade and Bosh? It'd be Wade getting Dwight and Bosh as he's by far the best player of the three.

[E_Stamkos]

3Ball chewing these fools to crumbs

As per usual...

[E_Stamkos]

If we use those same stats to compare mj and bron than Bron is better than mj.:roll: Bron blows mj out when using VORP

You're such a f*ucking loser lololol

Dat VORP :lol

[And1AllDay]

If we use those same stats to compare mj and bron than Bron is better than mj.:roll: Bron blows mj out when using VORP

:oldlol:

3baLLLLL cooked himself real good :oldlol:

[3ball]

If we use those same stats to compare mj and bron than Bron is better than mj.:roll: Bron blows mj out when using VORP
Not if we just looked at MJ's bulls career

Regardless, Bron wins BPM, VORP, TS, and DRtg

MJ wins PER, WS/48, ORtg - the more important and reliable stats (drtg favors defensive rebounders)

[tpols]

forget dwight... give jkidd wade & bosh and that nets team would be 3peating over LA perhaps.

[TheCorporation]

Not if we just looked at MJ's bulls career

Regardless, Bron wins BPM, VORP, TS, and DRtg

MJ wins PER, WS/48, ORtg - the more important and reliable stats (drtg favors defensive rebounders)


Bron also wins DRtg, BLK, BLK%, TRB, TRB%, DBPM, BPM, WS, FG% TS%, eFG%

I mean..It's just a bloodbath

And if we look to compare totals it's even worse for you :lol

1k more points and double the rebounds and assists?