The funny thing is, Harden is getting away with OFFENSIVE fouls on his threes...

[stalkerforlife]

He steps back, the defender then occupies the OPEN space, and then Harden jumps back into the space the defender occupied to try and draw fouls. (And many times he does)

That is an OFFENSIVE foul.

The league is allowing it because Harden is one of the guys that carries the league. (Albeit on false notions)

:roll:

[iamgine]

He steps back, the defender then occupies the OPEN space, and then Harden jumps back into the space the defender occupied to try and draw fouls. (And many times he does)

That is an OFFENSIVE foul.

Every shooter does this

[stalkerforlife]

Every shooter does this

:wtf:

Every shooter does not jump back and then jump forward.

What the f uck?

[Ben Simmons 25]

:roll:

He just wants a fair shot, man!

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

:roll:

He just wants a fair shot, man!

:roll:

:roll:

[ElPigto]

:wtf:

Every shooter does not jump back and then jump forward.

What the f uck?

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.

Never post again you bitch.

[sportjames23]

Never post again you bitch.

:biggums:

[bullettooth]

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Smoove/status/1122612990254170114

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https://streamable.com/j2t0e

[ElPigto]

Never post again you bitch.

You don't like facts?

I can't respect people like you that don't have an actual argument. At least people like KBlaze can admit that he hates the call but it should be a foul. He is stuck in the old the good ole days when things were physical and guards weren't given the freedom they are given today's game, but at least he can acknowledged that even though Harden is manipulating the game to his advantage, the call is still a legit call bases on today's standards? What do you hang your hat on besides just hate?

[dunksby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Smoove/status/1122612990254170114

Vs

https://streamable.com/j2t0e
More like, this one:

https://media.giphy.com/media/JNlNYe6z1RKqsD91H9/giphy.gif


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https://media.giphy.com/media/JOLYSm57OqeBGF5g2n/giphy.gif


There is no way Harden could land on his own feet even if Green was not there, he clearly shoots his own feet forward to make sure he makes contact and falls down.

[ElPigto]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Smoove/status/1122612990254170114

Vs

https://streamable.com/j2t0e

I didn't think that three was a foul so I wasn't outraged at that non call, I thought it was a good contest. How about you post the ones where Klay actually did foul him?

[GimmeThat]

What you meant is when you play kindergarten defense on him. Any elite defender knows when you want to stop a shooter, the best way is to disrupt his footing. A defender can dictate the direction a ball handler goes, he too can affect the balance the shooter gets on their lift.

Why the step back at all, why be concerned about the possibility of getting your ball stolen if defenders are allowed to operate in your space freely

[GimmeThat]

More like, this one:

https://media.giphy.com/media/JNlNYe6z1RKqsD91H9/giphy.gif


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https://media.giphy.com/media/JOLYSm57OqeBGF5g2n/giphy.gif


There is no way Harden could land on his own feet even if Green was not there, he clearly shoots his own feet forward to make sure he makes contact and falls down.

Right, and the defender is now allowed to jump in a forward motion towards the offensive player?

[stalkerforlife]

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.

I'm not about to dissect this bullshit.

Harden steps back.

Defender enters the VACANT space to contest.

Harden dramatically throws himself back into the defender to save himself from his abysmal shot selection.

The end.

[stalkerforlife]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Smoove/status/1122612990254170114

Vs

https://streamable.com/j2t0e

LMFAO.

Wow

[Ben Simmons 25]

I'm not about to dissect this bullshit.

Harden steps back.

Defender enters the VACANT space to contest.

Harden dramatically throws himself back into the defender to save himself from his abysmal shot selection.

The end.

:applause:

[stalkerforlife]

Never post again you bitch.

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

More like, this one:

https://media.giphy.com/media/JNlNYe6z1RKqsD91H9/giphy.gif


VS

https://media.giphy.com/media/JOLYSm57OqeBGF5g2n/giphy.gif


There is no way Harden could land on his own feet even if Green was not there, he clearly shoots his own feet forward to make sure he makes contact and falls down.

LOOK at the end of that three.

F uck!

Harden deliberately throws his legs forward into Green.

F ucking disgusting!

Don't be surprised if Silver gives the order to start calling these to push the series for revenue.

The NBA is a f ucking joke.

[GimmeThat]

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.

If you apply these rules on shot attempts in the painted area, we've just turned basketball into a sport of hang time, and defensive fouls are only called when the player on offense turns his mind off of offensive rebounding.

[dunksby]

Right, and the defender is now allowed to jump in a forward motion towards the offensive player?
Do you know of the Reggie Miller rule?

[STATUTORY]

I'm not about to dissect this bullshit.

Harden steps back.

Defender enters the VACANT space to contest.

Harden dramatically throws himself back into the defender to save himself from his abysmal shot selection.

The end.

:applause: this mutha****a literally jumps forward into the defender and has the audacity to complain

I just hope the refs and league don't bend to his tirade :facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

:applause: this mutha****a literally jumps forward into the defender and has the audacity to complain

I just hope the refs and league don't bend to his tirade :facepalm

I think NBA will bend for revenue.

Sucks.

[egokiller]

You don't like facts?

I can't respect people like you that don't have an actual argument. At least people like KBlaze can admit that he hates the call but it should be a foul. He is stuck in the old the good ole days when things were physical and guards weren't given the freedom they are given today's game, but at least he can acknowledged that even though Harden is manipulating the game to his advantage, the call is still a legit call bases on today's standards? What do you hang your hat on besides just hate?

Harden pushes the rules to the limits and isn't playing legit basketball by your average fan's standards. Doesn't matter if he's not breaking the rules, he's pushing them enough to the limits that it makes for shit basketball. No one else does this to the level he does, and therefore he is shit because of it.

[GimmeThat]

Do you know of the Reggie Miller rule?

Is there a difference between stepping back and jumping forward, than invading defenders space and their opportunity to contest a shot

may as well tell me 3's are 2's and full court shots are the standard option

[Phenith]

I'm not a fan of all this Harden controversy, but I would lean more to the fact that Harden has manipulated the rules to his favor, and that should bring up the saying "don't hate the player, hate the game". Right or Wrong, Moral or Not, Harden is trying to use every last letter of the rules to make him a more lethal player... as ugly as it can look at times I have a hard time faulting someone for that.

I'll admit a large % of his shots are funky like he's definitely trying to draw a foul, but to single out Harden here is ridiculous... most star players try to draw and do get favorable calls (or non calls) from the refs, you just notice it more with Harden because of his crazy usage rate (40% :eek: , next highest is 32%, :roll: ) . Giannis lowers his shoulder into his defender almost every time he goes to the basket and when he's met by strong resistance he usually takes 3-5 steps holding the ball to get all the way to the basket with NO travel call, it's just as annoying to watch as Hardens step back 3. Consistently bad no calls are just as annoying as crappy baited calls.

If anyone should be complaining about anything, people should be complaining about the overall inconsistency of the calls by refs league wide. I'm not sure I've watched a game all season where the same things were consistently being called on both ends of the floor. Also, WTF are the refs telling teams/players mid game that they missed a bunch calls... that would only make me more upset as a player, it's kind of hard to not dwell on it if the refs tell you mid game that they missed a bunch of calls that would have helped your team.

[LeCola]

More like, this one:

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There is no way Harden could land on his own feet even if Green was not there, he clearly shoots his own feet forward to make sure he makes contact and falls down.

Thank you man, I was searching those gifs and finally saw someone posted it.

Dudes, can someone explain me why does not refs calling those pushes with elbow offensive fouls? Why?

[Jameerthefear]

Stalker killin these boys

[ImKobe]

He got 2 FTs for grabbing a defender's arm in Game 1...where's the outrage for that?

When is he going to realize that the refs won't give him the benefit of the doubt against the Warriors? If they're not calling your flops on the first 15 three-pointers, why do you expect them to change their mind on the 16th one?

[72-10]

Houston had four free throw attempts to 13 for Golden State at the half

[tpols]

of course he is...

hardens crafted a system where hes either getting a wiiide open 3, or, if even semicontested, hes getting 3 FTs.

Bullshit.

Youll have to make them with a guy in your grill, or better yet... use some fakes, work your way into the midrange and get an even surer shot.

This 3 & layup gimmick foul baiting stuff aint basketball.

FOH

[Bronbron23]

He steps back, the defender then occupies the OPEN space, and then Harden jumps back into the space the defender occupied to try and draw fouls. (And many times he does)

That is an OFFENSIVE foul.

The league is allowing it because Harden is one of the guys that carries the league. (Albeit on false notions)

:roll:
Curry does this too

[tpols]

Curry does this too


Bullshit.

Curry has one of the lowest FTA/FGA ratios for superstars ever.

Harden one of the highest.

Ive noticed youve been on a bullshit spreading spree...

Do you really want to step to the big boys?

[Bronbron23]

Bullshit.

Curry has one of the lowest FTA/FGA ratios for superstars ever.

Harden one of the highest.

Ive noticed youve been on a bullshit spreading spree...

Do you really want to step to the big boys?
Wow you give yourself way to much credit homeboy and yes curry definitely flops and fishes for calls. He's just not as good at it is all. I can't stand harden but he can manipulate the rules and the refs like no other

[Bronbron23]

Bullshit.

Curry has one of the lowest FTA/FGA ratios for superstars ever.

Harden one of the highest.

Ive noticed youve been on a bullshit spreading spree...

Do you really want to step to the big boys?
Still waiting for fakkit bish ass to respond. And since when does living in your mothers basement making $12.50 and hour make you a big boy:facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

Bullshit.

Curry has one of the lowest FTA/FGA ratios for superstars ever.

Harden one of the highest.

Ive noticed youve been on a bullshit spreading spree...

Do you really want to step to the big boys?

Got em.

[tpols]

Still waiting for fakkit bish ass to respond. And since when does living in your mothers basement making $12.50 and hour make you a big boy:facepalm


kindergarten troll game, step it up.

[4pointshot]

Kerr begins press conference by flopping, and saying reporter fouled him:

https://sports.yahoo.com/steve-kerr-pokes-fun-at-officiating-by-flopping-to-open-his-press-conference-202007804.html

[quote]Kerr never mentions the Rockets or Harden with his words, but he later talks about players using

[zizozain]

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[Stephonit]

Houston had four free throw attempts to 13 for Golden State at the half

If that is suspicious then it should be more suspicious that the game ended with the Rockets having 29 free throw attempts to the Warriors' 27, especially since all the alleged Klay fouls on Harden that were the center of attention occurred in the first half.

[warriorfan]

Step back is his move. A jump shooter does not jump straight up and down on a shot, the natural shooting motion is that your momentum will carry you forward, hence the reason it is a tough shot to guard because the defender will anticipate the step back and not jump, but once the defender challenges the shot he will attempt to get a good contest which includes moving forward towards the shooters space.

It's one of the reasons Harden is hated, because he manipulates the rules to his advantage. The league has consistently given him the call all season long and through the first round, but suddenly the refs swallow their whistles.

All Harden is saying that if you made the call consistently over the year, why are you suddenly changing your mind? The Warriors are a talented team that does not need any help from the refs to win a game.


To the last part....he should be happy to be given the calls all season. And by this time he should recognize the pattern that is forming. They haven

[r0drig0lac]

:applause: this mutha****a literally jumps forward into the defender and has the audacity to complain

I just hope the refs and league don't bend to his tirade :facepalm
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