Did Kevin Durant ruined Russell Westbrook's Legacy?

[TheCorporation]

In 2016 Russell Westbrook put up better numbers than Kyrie did. Perhaps if Russell Westbrook wasn't playing with a choker like Durant he would have beaten the Warriors like Kyrie did with LeBron.

Russ also outperformed Kevin Durant in 2012 Finals. Did Kevin Durant choking ruin Russell Westbrook's Legacy?

[SouBeachTalents]

In 2016 Russell Westbrook put up better numbers than Kyrie did. Perhaps if Russell Westbrook wasn't playing with a choker like Durant he would have beaten the Warriors like Kyrie did with LeBron.

Russ also outperformed Kevin Durant in 2012 Finals. Did Kevin Durant choking ruin Russell Westbrook's Legacy?
Nah, he did not :lol

But to answer your question, I think he ruined multiple players legacies; LeBron, Curry and honestly even himself. A lot of people still don't take what he does on Golden State seriously

[TheCorporation]

Nah, he did not :lol

But to answer your question, I think he ruined multiple players legacies; LeBron, Curry and honestly even himself. A lot of people still don't take what he does on Golden State seriously

Fair enough :rockon:

[GimmeThat]

No, Westbrook has turned himself into Jason Kidd with better decision skills after picking up the ball.

Just the fact Kevin Durant is averaging only 1.1 blocks this year let's you know he's not the one that ruined his legacy

It's all the over head Derek Fisher type passer that did it.

[King Baron]

Nope, Westbrook has a superstar teammate in Paul George that is very comparable to Durant. He had Schroder (a starting PG on other teams) and a still solid Melo last year along with Adams and they haven't been able to get it done.

If anyone hurt legacies it's OKC's front office not keeping the Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Ibaka core together. But Presti redeemed himself by getting George on the squad.

That Harden gamble that led them to trading for Martin to replace the NBA's future scoring leader is why they're where they are today.

[TheCorporation]

No, Westbrook has turned himself into Jason Kidd with better decision skills after picking up the ball.

Just the fact Kevin Durant is averaging only 1.1 blocks this year let's you know he's not the one that ruined his legacy

It's all the over head Derek Fisher type passer that did it.

Come again?

[GimmeThat]

Come again?

There's an ill fascination of young talents and high draft picks that withheld the proper practice of basketball

[TheCorporation]

There's an ill fascination of young talents and high draft picks that withheld the proper practice of basketball

Word.

Athleticism is king

[imdaman99]

He left when they were just figuring shit out. They would have had Oladipo and Horford had KD stuck around. Would have rivaled the Warriors for years :confusedshrug:

I will say though, because KD left the way he did was a big narrative in him winning MVP. Russ was clutch as hell but people don't vote seeds lower than 4 as MVP.

[ImKobe]

In 2016 Russell Westbrook put up better numbers than Kyrie did. Perhaps if Russell Westbrook wasn't playing with a choker like Durant he would have beaten the Warriors like Kyrie did with LeBron.

Russ also outperformed Kevin Durant in 2012 Finals. Did Kevin Durant choking ruin Russell Westbrook's Legacy?

Lebron would have lost with Westbrook in place of Kyrie in the 2016 Finals.

[TheCorporation]

He left when they were just figuring shit out. They would have had Oladipo and Horford had KD stuck around. Would have rivaled the Warriors for years :confusedshrug:

I will say though, because KD left the way he did was a big narrative in him winning MVP. Russ was clutch as hell but people don't vote seeds lower than 4 as MVP.

True! I think Harden should have won that year. But also, I think that was the 1st season Russ averaged a triple double so it was a big deal at the time.

[imdaman99]

Lebron would have lost with Westbrook in place of Kyrie in the 2016 Finals.
There's no telling. Westbrook was the biggest reason they were up 3-1 against the Warriors in the 1st place. He was yuge in game 1 when they stole home court.

[TheCorporation]

There's no telling. Westbrook was the biggest reason they were up 3-1 against the Warriors in the 1st place. He was yuge in game 1 when they stole home court.

Russ was HUGE that series vs the Warriors. He gave OKC 27-11-7 with 4 steals PER GAME.

[JohnMax]

Without KD, Westbrick is a worse version of Lowry/Derozan (they atleast win 50+ games and get past 1st round).

[ImKobe]

Russ was HUGE that series vs the Warriors. He gave OKC 27-11-7 with 4 steals PER GAME.

He also shot terribly and would be a terrible match with another ball-dominant ball-handler in Lebron. He couldn't play Irving's role. Maybe he's better defensively, but you can't really do a better job defensively than what the Cavs did against the Warriors if you look at how Curry, Barnes & Klay were all shut down for most of the series.

Look how things change. Few days ago, you were all bashing "Westbrick" for shooting his team out of the series, now you think that one of the greatest scorers in NBA history ruined his legacy and that he would have been a better fit than Irving (one of the most efficient scorers/shooters) next to Lebron. :roll:

[BarberSchool]

Durant ruined multiple legacies when he Joined the Warriors:

1. Russell Westbrick - Russell's best chance to ever win was to shut up and pass to Durant unless he had a fast break or wide open driving lane. F#@ked that up. Now he's getting ridiculously inflated numbers in a league of players who don't respect him. Tough sh!t, you selfish DL sub-80IQ cornball. Enjoy being hated by your own fanbase when you are makming $47mil at 34, when your athleticism will decline so far that you will be coming off the bench.

2. His own legacy. KD joining the warriors ruins how history will view the many chips he will win with them.

3. Splash Bros legacy. They could have :bowdown: :rockon: WON:rockon: :bowdown: 3-5 without him. Now they will *win* 4-6 with him, and they'll be worth 1/3rd what they would have been, to anyone who matters.

[SpaceJam2]

Durant ruined multiple legacies when he Joined the Warriors:

1. Russell Westbrick - Russell's best chance to ever win was to shut up and pass to Durant unless he had a fast break or wide open driving lane. F#@ked that up. Now he's getting ridiculously inflated numbers in a league of players who don't respect him. Tough sh!t, you selfish DL sub-80IQ cornball. Enjoy being hated by your own fanbase when you are makming $47mil at 34, when your athleticism will decline so far that you will be coming off the bench.

2. His own legacy. KD joining the warriors ruins how history will view the many chips he will win with them.

3. Splash Bros legacy. They could have :bowdown: :rockon: WON:rockon: :bowdown: 3-5 without him. Now they will *win* 4-6 with him, and they'll be worth 1/3rd what they would have been, to anyone who matters.

I can get behind most of this but don't forget KD needed Westbrook just as much. Westbrook was extremely important in their 2012 Finals run and their 2016 WCF where he averaged 27-11-7-3.6 spg

[SpaceJam2]

This is not a troll thread. Look at how many times Westbrook outperformed Snake Durant during multiple critical playoff series.

2013 WCF vs Spurs
Russ: .......27-6-7-3.2 spg (41%)
ORtg: ......109
DRtg: ......108
GmScore: 20.9

Durant: ....26-8-3-1.2 spg (47%)
ORtg: ......105
DRtg: ......113
GmScore: 17.8

2016 WCF vs Warriors
Russ: ...-....27-7-11-3.6 spg (40%)
ORtg: .......109
DRtg: .......104
GmScore: .23.1

Durant: ....30-8-3-1.7 spg (42%)
ORtg: .......106
DRtg: .......106
GmScore: .20.1

As you can see in both crucial series Westbrook outplayed Durant but wasn't able to carry that choke artist snake body all the way to a series win.

In both series above Westbrook is a net positive (ORtg - DRtg) while Durant was a neg NEGATIVE in both series.

[ImKobe]

This is not a troll thread. Look at how many times Westbrook outperformed Snake Durant during multiple critical playoff series.

2013 WCF vs Spurs
Russ: .......27-6-7-3.2 spg (41%)
ORtg: ......109
DRtg: ......108
GmScore: 20.9

Durant: ....26-8-3-1.2 spg (47%)
ORtg: ......105
DRtg: ......113
GmScore: 17.8

2016 WCF vs Warriors
Russ: ...-....27-7-11-3.6 spg (40%)
ORtg: .......109
DRtg: .......104
GmScore: .23.1

Durant: ....30-8-3-1.7 spg (42%)
ORtg: .......106
DRtg: .......106
GmScore: .20.1

As you can see in both crucial series Westbrook outplayed Durant but wasn't able to carry that choke artist snake body all the way to a series win.

In both series above Westbrook is a net positive (ORtg - DRtg) while Durant was a neg NEGATIVE in both series.

So all you can give me is two series in all those years they played together :lol .

I could give you at least four series, where Irving scored more efficiently while being a bigger net positive than Bran.

[SpaceJam2]

So all you can give me is two series in all those years they played together :lol .

I could give you at least four series, where Irving scored more efficiently while being a bigger net positive than Bran.

Where they LOST the series? Doubt it.

With a higher Game Score? Doubt it.

[ImKobe]

Where they LOST the series? Doubt it.

With a higher Game Score? Doubt it.

Had a series with a higher Game Score too :confusedshrug:

[SpaceJam2]

Had a series with a higher Game Score too :confusedshrug:

And they LOST or nah?

[ImKobe]

And they LOST or nah?


Lebron lost a Finals in 6 games while being closer to 3rd in Game Score than 2nd with a negative net rating.

2011 Finals

James 13.7 GmSc 102 ORTG 110 DRTG
Wade 22.7 GmSc 123 ORTG 108 DRTG
Terry 13.4 GmSc 122 ORTG 111 DRTG

[LostCause]

Threads even worse than that Pascal > Gianni's thread

[And1AllDay]

Lebron lost a Finals in 6 games while being closer to 3rd in Game Score than 2nd with a negative net rating.

2011 Finals

James 13.7 GmSc 102 ORTG 110 DRTG
Wade 22.7 GmSc 123 ORTG 108 DRTG
Terry 13.4 GmSc 122 ORTG 111 DRTG

Bruh everyone knows Bron was trash in 2011 who was hyping him in 2011 right? No body he took heat for that shit show but who was hyping KD in 2013 and 2016 and blaming Westbrook everyone. See the difference? Bronny catches heat for his 2011 fail but KD doesnt catch heat for his 2013 2014 (goatbrook hurt) and 2016

[And1AllDay]

Threads even worse than that Pascal > Gianni's thread

Found a KD fan :oldlol: Or goatbrook h8tr one of the two

[LostCause]

Found a KD fan :oldlol: Or goatbrook h8tr one of the two

Neither, but keep trying :no:

Threads just dumb

[SpaceJam2]

Bruh everyone knows Bron was trash in 2011 who was hyping him in 2011 right? No body he took heat for that shit show but who was hyping KD in 2013 and 2016 and blaming Westbrook everyone. See the difference? Bronny catches heat for his 2011 fail but KD doesnt catch heat for his 2013 2014 (goatbrook hurt) and 2016

:eek:

LostCause? Im Kobe? Response?

[TheCorporation]

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Bruh everyone knows Bron was trash in 2011 who was hyping him in 2011 right? No body he took heat for that shit show but who was hyping KD in 2013 and 2016 and blaming Westbrook everyone. See the difference? Bronny catches heat for his 2011 fail but KD doesnt catch heat for his 2013 2014 (goatbrook hurt) and 2016


Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

[MrFonzworth]

No, Westbrook has turned himself into Jason Kidd with better decision skills after picking up the ball.

Just the fact Kevin Durant is averaging only 1.1 blocks this year let's you know he's not the one that ruined his legacy

It's all the over head Derek Fisher type passer that did it.
Thread ended right here. Why are people still posting?

[TheCorporation]

Thread ended right here. Why are people still posting?

Fair enough :lol

[TheCorporation]

Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

[BigShotBob]

Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

FG%? TS%? 3PT%?

Thanks in advance!

[TheCorporation]

FG%? TS%? 3PT%?

Thanks in advance!
Defense too,

Thanks in advance!

Moar HALP

[Boogaboog]

Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

That's disingenuous. Kyrie has deficiencies, but he's smarter on the court than Westbrook, a better shooter, and more clutch. Westbrook is arguably the worst crunchtime decision maker of any NBA superstar ever. Volume stats and high energy play don't change that.

[BigShotBob]

Defense too,

Thanks in advance!

Moar HALP

So now defense matters? :oldlol:

[superduper]

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Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

Why aren't you posting %s

[TheCorporation]

2016 vs Warriors


Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option peformance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"



Anyone?

[TheCorporation]

2016 Playoffs versus Warriors


Kyrie with 27/4/4/2 "Goat 2nd option performance!!1!!1"

Russ with 27/11/7/4 "KD needz moar halp"

Anyone?

[bobopenguin]

russell's legacy was built on the kindness of Steve Adams.