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eliteballer
04-29-2019, 06:34 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-have-research-that-shows-warriors-get-favorable-officiating-172417632.html

ArbitraryWater
04-29-2019, 06:37 PM
anyone who saw game 7 knows this


great they have done their research to prove it

minus the human influence = rockets win g7

ArbitraryWater
04-29-2019, 06:38 PM
"Referees likely changed the NBA champion," says the memo, addressed to Byron Spruell, the NBA's president of league operations. "There can no be no worse result for the NBA."

bingo

LoneyROY7
04-29-2019, 06:40 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/lZnNnOEqXVVyU/giphy.gif

Manny98
04-29-2019, 06:49 PM
My god are the Rockets such ****ing crybabys

Refs this refs that :cry:

How about hitting more shits and then you might win

27 consecutive missed 3s :roll: :roll: :roll: they deserved to lose pathetic ass franchise

BarberSchool
04-29-2019, 06:54 PM
If they actually had anything, they won't dare publish it.
Peep game:

Mark Cuban's team of private detectives has information showing the NBA had officials fix the 2006 finals. But if he publishes the findings, the owenrs will vote to force him to sell the team, since this publishing would tremendously damage and de-value the entire league, and therefore their product.

Ben Simmons 25
04-29-2019, 06:59 PM
Oh yeah?

Do the Rockets also have data that shows how many fraudulent plays James Harden gets the benefit of when he hooks people's arms that aren't even extended and drags them into his space for cheap fouls?

Do they have data on all the times he carries the ball to free himself up for a three?

Do they have data on all the times he jumps forward into the defender's space so he can get a foul?

Do they have data on all the calls he violently whips his head back as if he were shot in order to get a foul call when there's no contact?

No? They didn't take that data into account? Oh... color me surprised. I'm shocked. Really... shocked that they don't have that data.

Spurs m8
04-29-2019, 07:12 PM
Oh yeah?

Do the Rockets also have data that shows how many fraudulent plays James Harden gets the benefit of when he hooks people's arms that aren't even extended and drags them into his space for cheap fouls?

Do they have data on all the times he carries the ball to free himself up for a three?

Do they have data on all the times he jumps forward into the defender's space so he can get a foul?

Do they have data on all the calls he violently whips his head back as if he were shot in order to get a foul call when there's no contact?

No? They didn't take that data into account? Oh... color me surprised. I'm shocked. Really... shocked that they don't have that data.

Exactly.

highwhey
04-29-2019, 07:16 PM
not surprised at all. and i'm very happy the rockets did an audit in house. it will hopefully set a precedent so that other teams do the same thing and put more pressure on the league for improved officiating. regardless of how you feel about Harden's step back 3, player safety is a valid concern and the refs should be more consistent.

NBA league office is probably pissed at this report, but good :applause:

Spurs m8
04-29-2019, 07:27 PM
not surprised at all. and i'm very happy the rockets did an audit in house. it will hopefully set a precedent so that other teams do the same thing and put more pressure on the league for improved officiating. regardless of how you feel about Harden's step back 3, player safety is a valid concern and the refs should be more consistent.

NBA league office is probably pissed at this report, but good :applause:

You are clueless at basketball and life

Wally450
04-29-2019, 07:30 PM
You are clueless at basketball and life

Pot meet kettle.

NBASTATMAN
04-29-2019, 07:43 PM
Rockets were looking for calls last night imo..


BUT THEY WERE SCREWED BY THE REFS BIG TIME LAST SEASON VS GSW.

Cavs were also screwed in game one but Houston got killed in the biggest games and moments..

Derka
04-29-2019, 07:51 PM
I can’t think of anything more pathetic than this in my 30+ years as a basketball fan. In the realm of bitch moves, this has to be one of the biggest in league history.

highwhey
04-29-2019, 07:56 PM
You are clueless at basketball and life
can someone translate this into english? i don't speak scrub.

Spurs m8
04-29-2019, 08:01 PM
can someone translate this into english? i don't speak scrub.

go back to mexico and film your second blowjob in life, you weird unit

RoseCity07
04-29-2019, 08:24 PM
Yeah the refs made Ariza go 0-13 from three or whatever he did.

Rockets choked period because they suck.

stalkerforlife
04-29-2019, 10:15 PM
Oh yeah?

Do the Rockets also have data that shows how many fraudulent plays James Harden gets the benefit of when he hooks people's arms that aren't even extended and drags them into his space for cheap fouls?

Do they have data on all the times he carries the ball to free himself up for a three?

Do they have data on all the times he jumps forward into the defender's space so he can get a foul?

Do they have data on all the calls he violently whips his head back as if he were shot in order to get a foul call when there's no contact?

No? They didn't take that data into account? Oh... color me surprised. I'm shocked. Really... shocked that they don't have that data.

Shut. It. Down.

bison
04-29-2019, 10:21 PM
Compiling data reports and sending it to league offices? This is taking complaining to the refs on a whole new god awful level.

STATUTORY
04-29-2019, 10:35 PM
Rockets, Harden and CP3 have given up trying to win on the basketball court, they are now trying to litigate this series through the courts of public opinion

DISGUSTING

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 05:42 AM
[QUOTE=Derka]I can

hold this L
04-30-2019, 05:43 AM
I ****ing hate this team. I can accept losing even LeDiva, but not these clowns.

hold this L
04-30-2019, 05:47 AM
It you work your whole life towards a goal, and you get screwed over, you wouldn't make a point about it?


Dumbass. This is competition. Watch something else where the stakes aren't that high.
Shut up you child. You've been crying non stop about this like a petty little child. You want to know what would happen if the league was actually fair off the ball contact fouls in any series vs the Warriors? Splash Brothers would average 75%+ TS in every game and scored 35PPG apiece or the entire starting 5 that constantly fouls would get thrown out with fouls.

People love to cry for fouls but add these fouls that happen every series (I already accepted it as reality at this point), and no series would ever be competitive.

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 06:05 AM
Shut up you child. You've been crying non stop about this like a petty little child. You want to know what would happen if the league was actually fair off the ball contact fouls in any series vs the Warriors? Splash Brothers would average 75%+ TS in every game and scored 35PPG apiece or the entire starting 5 that constantly fouls would get thrown out with fouls.

People love to cry for fouls but add these fouls that happen every series (I already accepted it as reality at this point), and no series would ever be competitive.

Currently in a Psychology Lecture...

Just had a graph of 3 different sized fishes.

Small fish: "There is no justice in the world"
Middle fish: "There is some justice in the world"
Big fish: "The world is just"

It's a metaphor.

Compare it to yourself, the constant fan winner, Warriors fan


Congrats, you're the ignorant, brainless, big fish. You only see things from your benefited, beneficial perspective. So weak.

hold this L
04-30-2019, 06:07 AM
Currently in a Psychology Lecture...

Just had a graph of 3 different sized fishes.

Small fish: "There is no justice in the world"
Middle fish: "There is some justice in the world"
Big fish: "The world is just"

It's a metaphor.

Compare it to yourself, the constant fan winner, Warriors fan


Congrats, you're the ignorant, brainless, big fish. You only see things from your benefited, beneficial perspective. So weak.
And you're the small fish, crying that we crushed your hero.

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 06:20 AM
And you're the small fish, crying that we crushed your hero.

I'm the middle fish.

I call it how it is, but would never take a victim mentality/defeatist attitude.


You go on being ignorant and cheering on cowardly perennial rule abusers and under cutters

baudkarma
04-30-2019, 06:25 AM
The Rockets aren't just claiming that the refs favored the Warriors. They're actually saying that the refs cost them the title. According to the ESPN story:

"Referees likely changed the eventual NBA champion," says the memo, addressed to Byron Spruell, the NBA's president of league operations. "There can be no worse result for the NBA."

So there you go. I like how the Rockets just assume that they would have defeated the Cavs, and then go on to lecture the NBA about how terrible the actual result is for the NBA. And the Rockets seem surprised that their offense, which is predicated largely upon drawing fouls and getting to the line, would have difficulties in the playoffs when the officials are much more reluctant to call fouls.

How will the NBA front office and the refs react to this memo? I can't imagine either will be too pleased. I don't think the Rockets did their players any favors either. When a call goes against them, will they start to feel like there's no way they can win because the refs are against them?

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 07:14 AM
The Rockets aren't just claiming that the refs favored the Warriors. They're actually saying that the refs cost them the title. According to the ESPN story:

"Referees likely changed the eventual NBA champion," says the memo, addressed to Byron Spruell, the NBA's president of league operations. "There can be no worse result for the NBA."

So there you go. I like how the Rockets just assume that they would have defeated the Cavs, and then go on to lecture the NBA about how terrible the actual result is for the NBA. And the Rockets seem surprised that their offense, which is predicated largely upon drawing fouls and getting to the line, would have difficulties in the playoffs when the officials are much more reluctant to call fouls.

How will the NBA front office and the refs react to this memo? I can't imagine either will be too pleased. I don't think the Rockets did their players any favors either. When a call goes against them, will they start to feel like there's no way they can win because the refs are against them?


Well, saying it changed the eventual champion could just refer to it not being the Warriors, right?

I don't think they said it cost them the title, but ESPN did.

It cost them the chance of a title.

Cavaliers would likely win it without Paul.

ImKobe
04-30-2019, 08:26 AM
The Rockets aren't just claiming that the refs favored the Warriors. They're actually saying that the refs cost them the title. According to the ESPN story:

"Referees likely changed the eventual NBA champion," says the memo, addressed to Byron Spruell, the NBA's president of league operations. "There can be no worse result for the NBA."

So there you go. I like how the Rockets just assume that they would have defeated the Cavs, and then go on to lecture the NBA about how terrible the actual result is for the NBA. And the Rockets seem surprised that their offense, which is predicated largely upon drawing fouls and getting to the line, would have difficulties in the playoffs when the officials are much more reluctant to call fouls.

How will the NBA front office and the refs react to this memo? I can't imagine either will be too pleased. I don't think the Rockets did their players any favors either. When a call goes against them, will they start to feel like there's no way they can win because the refs are against them?


They're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. How many RS/Playoff games have they won thanks to exploiting the rules/refs? How many of Harden's offensive fouls go uncalled each game, how many times has he been rewarded with FTs on plays that should have resulted in him receiving an offensive foul? Do they mention that next to the calls that didn't go their way?

You have to look at each side objectively. Cavs got away with playing overly physical defense on Curry and Thompson in the 2016 Finals in the last 3 games, Lebron/Cavs got Draymond suspended retroactively by crying to the media. Was that fair to Golden State, that the league wanted to extend the series, thus suddenly allowing the opposing team to hack them whenever they felt like it? Calling bs fouls on Curry in 2016 and 2017 to put him into foul trouble in order to give the Cavs a chance at a win?

And it's hilarious that Houston thinks that Cavaliers wouldn't have been a tough series with Lebron, Love, Korver, Hill,, JR all being capable of trading 3s with them.

Maybe the Rockets would have beat the Warriors, if D'Antoni had some imagination and didn't just have his players chuck up contested 3s in transition, leading to 27 straight missed 3s. Maybe the Rockets would have won the series, had Harden not gone 14/69 (20%) from three in the last 6 games of the series.

Ass Dan
04-30-2019, 08:56 AM
I honestly hope these flopping fakkits get swept. Shit team, shit support.

ballinhun8
04-30-2019, 11:03 AM
Morey is a straight up cuck. The reason you see nerds depicted the way they are in TV and movies. The reason people hate analytics. The reason people like Nick wright, Skip Bayless, Will Cain have voices when they shouldn't.




Such a b*tch move. Your team lost because they couldn't hit a shot to save their life. St home they simply choked. Better teams have choked. More teams will choke afterwards. You lost because your leader did not come through and was too dependent on the referees to bail him out.



This is the equivalent to a white woman complaining to the cashier to get a manager involved because her expired bed, bath, and beyond coupon won't give her the 10% off of her $15 purchase.

BigShotBob
04-30-2019, 11:18 AM
Least likeable GM since Mark "I touch little boys and girls on Yachts" Cuban

Smook A.
04-30-2019, 12:42 PM
Playoffs really bring out all the arguments on this forum :oldlol:

dazzer87
04-30-2019, 01:36 PM
Does the data report the 0-27 3s from the game? Fvking cry babies...... :lol :lol :lol :lol

dazzer87
04-30-2019, 01:39 PM
go back to mexico and film your second blowjob in life, you weird unit

:roll: watch out man, dude made post another pic of him shirtless holding a gun........ :lol

CPointGod3
04-30-2019, 01:45 PM
Least likeable GM since Mark "I touch little boys and girls on Yachts" Cuban
Why? Because he won't just take the NBA's and Adam Silver's shit?

Fact is, the Warriors did NOT win Game 7 last year. Refs handed it to them. There have been some ridiculous Calls in all of the Games between Warriors and the Rockets.

And don't come at me with 27 missed threes.
Officiating has a huge psychological impact and can shift momentum even better than the opposing team itself. When the Rockets had that huge lead, everything was going in GSW's favor, so the momentum shifted.

Fact:

bigkingsfan
04-30-2019, 01:51 PM
Good drama, stop taking sports so seriously.

PickernRoller
04-30-2019, 02:01 PM
I have data showing referees favored the Rockets all throughout the regular season. We could have had a different 4th seed.

Hittin_Shots
04-30-2019, 02:02 PM
Why was an offensive foul not called on harden when kicking his legs out at draymonds?

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 02:31 PM
Compiling data reports and sending it to league offices? This is taking complaining to the refs on a whole new god awful level.

yeah, it takes it to the only worthwile level if one wants to accomplish something :facepalm

motherfcker think this is just fun and games?! this is LIFE, PROFESSION, HONOR

ArbitraryWater
04-30-2019, 02:33 PM
[QUOTE=CPointGod3]Why? Because he won't just take the NBA's and Adam Silver's shit?

Fact is, the Warriors did NOT win Game 7 last year. Refs handed it to them. There have been some ridiculous Calls in all of the Games between Warriors and the Rockets.

And don't come at me with 27 missed threes.
Officiating has a huge psychological impact and can shift momentum even better than the opposing team itself. When the Rockets had that huge lead, everything was going in GSW's favor, so the momentum shifted.

Fact:

Gileraracer
05-02-2019, 05:39 AM
Oh yeah?

Do the Rockets also have data that shows how many fraudulent plays James Harden gets the benefit of when he hooks people's arms that aren't even extended and drags them into his space for cheap fouls?

Do they have data on all the times he carries the ball to free himself up for a three?

Do they have data on all the times he jumps forward into the defender's space so he can get a foul?

Do they have data on all the calls he violently whips his head back as if he were shot in order to get a foul call when there's no contact?

No? They didn't take that data into account? Oh... color me surprised. I'm shocked. Really... shocked that they don't have that data.


This. How can anyone support a team like that?

GimmeThat
05-02-2019, 06:00 AM
so they made poor decisions, the Rockets probably needs to have a locker room meeting being clear on their hierarchy.

I'm certain players shots assisted% would support my statement.