Dame Lillard = Wade with a jump shot

[90sgoat]

Dame Lillard = a short prime Wade with a jump shot

This is my take having watched half a game of Lillard for the first time ever.

:coleman:

Which is pretty good I guess. I like his game, strong drives, seems likeable and a good leader, unlike wade.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Watching him yesterday vs. Denver, thought about that too

Not that he is D-Wade. Or even "better". Just similar.

The way he was splitting double's and finishing is like Wade circa 2006-2011.

[90sgoat]

Watching him yesterday vs. Denver, thought about that too

Not that he is D-Wade. Or even "better". Just similar.

The way he was splitting double's and finishing is like Wade circa 2006-2011.

Yeah, not comparing how good is he is, but game is similar, just shorter. He moves strong and uses his strength well to shield the ball and split doubles as you say.

Not surprising Lebron tried to recruit him:roll:

[tontoz]

Lillard isn't as strong or athletic as Wade. Wade was an athletic freak.

Dame has very good skills but he isn't close to Wade as an athlete.

I think they are pretty close height wise.

[BigShotBob]

Lillard has been doing this since he entered the league his rookie year.

By the way, he played 4 years in college iirc.

[HoopologyPhD]

Wade didn't have great range on his shot but he was always confident shooting and shot a very high percentage from inside the 3 point line.

[game3524]

What **** take.:oldlol:

They play nothing alike.

[SpaceJam2]

What **** take.:oldlol:

They play nothing alike.

Agreed. This is 3ball using his alt in an attempt to boost up way to diminish LeBron.

Pathetic

[sdot_thadon]

How in the hell do we have all these "fans'' who don't even watch the game?

[bizil]

Naw don't see this comparison at all! Two different yet great players. Donovan Mitchell is the closest thing in the league right now to young Wade. Strong, freak athletic 6'3-6'4 SG who can also play the PG. And Mitchell himself ISN'T on Wade's superstar level yet. In terms of style of play and athletic ability, he's the closest thing

When it comes to Lillard, a bit more efficient Gilbert Arenas would be a better description. They are around the same size. They are score first PG's with tremendous scoring skillsets. Dame is more athletic though. So when it comes to PG's in past eras in their primes, Arenas is the closest comp.

Arenas was sort of the start of the score first alpha dog PG's with a sick blend of handles, range, and slashing. When Gilbert was at his best, there weren't as many score first type PG's in the league. Let alone ones with handles, range, and slashing ability like that.

[Smoke117]

Naw don't see this comparison at all! Two different yet great players. Donovan Mitchell is the closest thing in the league right now to young Wade. Strong, freak athletic 6'3-6'4 SG who can also play the PG. And Mitchell himself ISN'T on Wade's superstar level yet. In terms of style of play and athletic ability, he's the closest thing

When it comes to Lillard, a bit more efficient Gilbert Arenas would be a better description. They are around the same size. They are score first PG's with tremendous scoring skillsets. Dame is more athletic though. So when it comes to PG's in past eras in their primes, Arenas is the closest comp.

Arenas was sort of the start of the score first alpha dog PG's with a sick blend of handles, range, and slashing. When Gilbert was at his best, there weren't as many score first type PG's in the league. Let alone ones with handles, range, and slashing ability like that.

Not really. Mitchell plays like a poor man's Damian Lillard. He doesn't get to the rim close to enough to be garner any serious kind of comparison to Wade. On that note, even Dame got to the rim more than Mitchell did this season, but not close to enough to compare to Wade either. That's aside from the point that Lillard's not close to as good of a finisher. His 0-3 feet % is pathetic compared to Wade's. There's then the fact that both of these cats are 3pt chuckers. Lillard has basically averaged 8 a game the last 4 years and Mitchell isn't far behind. Even coming into the league now it's hard to see Wade ever being a high volume 3pt shooter.

We move on to defense and the comparisons just become nil. Wade was a solid impact defensive player from his 2nd season on and a great defensive player in his prime. Neither of these guys is even a solid defensive player.

[bizil]

Not really. Mitchell plays like a poor man's Damian Lillard. He doesn't get to the rim close to enough to be garner any serious kind of comparison to Wade. On that note, even Dame got to the rim more than Mitchell did this season, but not close to enough to compare to Wade either. That's aside from the point that Lillard's not close to as good of a finisher. His 0-3 feet % is pathetic compared to Wade's. There's then the fact that both of these cats are 3pt chuckers. Lillard has basically averaged 8 a game the last 4 years and Mitchell isn't far behind. Even coming into the league now it's hard to see Wade ever being a high volume 3pt shooter.

We move on to defense and the comparisons just become nil. Wade was a solid impact defensive player from his 2nd season on and a great defensive player in his prime. Neither of these guys is even a solid defensive player.

I'm talking in terms of freak athletic ability and body type that Mitchell is the MOST SIMILAR to Wade in today's game! And I'm saying MOST SIMILAR. That doesn't mean they play exactly the same. If u NOTICED I said Mitchell isn't on Wade's level yet AT ALL! Because he isn't the defender, passer, or dominant scorer YET that Wade was. My point was Donovan Mitchell FOR THE REASONS I pointed out is the closest to D Wade today. I'm NOT SAYING he's close to a prime D Wade yet as a player. The kid is still All Star caliber with a ton of upside though! And he FOR SURE slashes enough to the rack to showcase his freak athletic ability! If u can't see some similarities between Mitchell and Wade, u are blind! HELL even D Wade SAID Mitchell reminds him of himself!!!!


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/12/03/nba-star-dwyane-wade-lauds-donovan-mitchell/2192954002/

[Smoke117]

I'm talking in terms of freak athletic ability and body type that Mitchell is the MOST SIMILAR to Wade in today's game! And I'm saying MOST SIMILAR. That doesn't mean they play exactly the same. If u NOTICED I said Mitchell isn't on Wade's level yet AT ALL! Because he isn't the defender, passer, or dominant scorer YET that Wade was. My point was Donovan Mitchell FOR THE REASONS I pointed out is the closest to D Wade today. I'm NOT SAYING he's close to a prime D Wade yet as a player. The kid is still All Star caliber with a ton of upside though! And he FOR SURE slashes enough to the rack to showcase his freak athletic ability! If u can't see some similarities between Mitchell and Wade, u are blind! HELL even D Wade SAID Mitchell reminds him of himself!!!!


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/12/03/nba-star-dwyane-wade-lauds-donovan-mitchell/2192954002/

Who cares if he showcases his freak athletic ability? My point is he just doesn't plain get to the rim enough to garner any comparison to Wade game wise. In Wade's first four seasons he didn't take less than 37% of his shots at the rim. Last season Mitchell took 26% between his shots at the rim and 22% this season. That fell to 20.5% in the playoffs this season. Wade took 36% of his shots at the rim in the playoffs his 2nd season. If you aren't getting to the rim you aren't comparable to Wade. That's the thing that made Dwyane Wade Dwyane Wade. Mitchell doesn't even attack the rim like him anyway. For the most part he tries to use his length when Wade was a power right at you kind of penetrator. It's why he doesn't get to the line close to as much as Wade. He also doesn't have anything in that 3-10 range like Wade's unstoppable drop shot/floater. Wade shot under 40% from there just once and that was at .398% when he was 36. He's basically been a 45% shooter from that range his entire career even from the beginning. Mitchell shot 34% in that range this season. The worst part about this is he shot 24% of his shots in this range (more than he did at rim) while not being able to do anything from there. I don't care if they have similar builds and athleticism. Their games are nothing alike. Now Damian Lillard is a good comparison for Mitchell.

[game3524]

Mitchell is like Wade if you takeaway Wade'e explosiveness.

[RoseCity07]

Nah. Wade was super explosive. Lillard is 2 inches shorter.

Wade was a better shot blocker. I think a better defender too.

They aren't that similar.

[GimmeThat]

Steve Nash with some explosiveness

[sammichoffate]

Maybe Gilbert Arenas?

[bizil]

Who cares if he showcases his freak athletic ability? My point is he just doesn't plain get to the rim enough to garner any comparison to Wade game wise. In Wade's first four seasons he didn't take less than 37% of his shots at the rim. Last season Mitchell took 26% between his shots at the rim and 22% this season. That fell to 20.5% in the playoffs this season. Wade took 36% of his shots at the rim in the playoffs his 2nd season. If you aren't getting to the rim you aren't comparable to Wade. That's the thing that made Dwyane Wade Dwyane Wade. Mitchell doesn't even attack the rim like him anyway. For the most part he tries to use his length when Wade was a power right at you kind of penetrator. It's why he doesn't get to the line close to as much as Wade. He also doesn't have anything in that 3-10 range like Wade's unstoppable drop shot/floater. Wade shot under 40% from there just once and that was at .398% when he was 36. He's basically been a 45% shooter from that range his entire career even from the beginning. Mitchell shot 34% in that range this season. The worst part about this is he shot 24% of his shots in this range (more than he did at rim) while not being able to do anything from there. I don't care if they have similar builds and athleticism. Their games are nothing alike. Now Damian Lillard is a good comparison for Mitchell.


The thing is you don't know how to comprehend shit! Wade HIMSELF said their games are built in a SIMILAR FASHION! The kid is still very young into his career. And ISN'T close to what Wade was yet. If he ever will be. BUT for the reasons I pointed out, he is similar to Wade. Mitchell is more similar to Wade than Lillard is to Wade. That's all I EVER SAID! HELL a casual fan could even see that shit!!


Plus Mitchell plays the SG primarily like Wade used to. ANOTHER REASON why Mitchell is more similar to Wade than Lillard is to Wade! Arenas and Lillard are MUCH MORE SIMILAR than Mitchell and Lillard would EVER BE!! Do a google search right now and you will see that MOST REPUTABLE hoops sites will compare Mitchell to Wade WAY MORE than Mitchell to Lillard!

When people think Mitchell, the FIRST THING they think of is a freak athletic strong 6'3 to 6'4 guard who is a very good scorer. WITH the potential to be a great player. Wade was the ULTIMATE version of that type of player. When people think of Lillard, they think of a SICK BLEND of handles, scoring skillset, and range on his shot! They DON'T think freak athletic ability FRANKLY when it come to Lillard. EVEN THOUGH he's underrated in that regard!

Mitchell SAYING HIMSELF how he looked up to Wade and HOW THEY ARE SIMILAR:

https://heatnation.com/media/donovan-mitchell-responds-dwyane-wades-summer-working-invite/


https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/passing-torch-what-donovan-mitchell-learned-training-dwyane-wade


So if they're games are NOTHING ALIKE, then WHY IN THE HELL is he patterning his game AFTER D WADE???? They obviously had shit IN COMMON! I NEVER said their games were 100% alike!!!

[Smoke117]

The thing is you don't know how to comprehend shit! Wade HIMSELF said their games are built in a SIMILAR FASHION! The kid is still very young into his career. And ISN'T close to what Wade was yet. If he ever will be. BUT for the reasons I pointed out, he is similar to Wade. Mitchell is more similar to Wade than Lillard is to Wade. That's all I EVER SAID! HELL a casual fan could even see that shit!!


Plus Mitchell plays the SG primarily like Wade used to. ANOTHER REASON why Mitchell is more similar to Wade than Lillard is to Wade! Arenas and Lillard are MUCH MORE SIMILAR than Mitchell and Lillard would EVER BE!! Do a google search right now and you will see that MOST REPUTABLE hoops sites will compare Mitchell to Wade WAY MORE than Mitchell to Lillard!

When people think Mitchell, the FIRST THING they think of is a freak athletic strong 6'3 to 6'4 guard who is a very good scorer. WITH the potential to be a great player. Wade was the ULTIMATE version of that type of player. When people think of Lillard, they think of a SICK BLEND of handles, scoring skillset, and range on his shot! They DON'T think freak athletic ability FRANKLY when it come to Lillard. EVEN THOUGH he's underrated in that regard!

Mitchell SAYING HIMSELF how he looked up to Wade and HOW THEY ARE SIMILAR:

https://heatnation.com/media/donovan-mitchell-responds-dwyane-wades-summer-working-invite/


https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/passing-torch-what-donovan-mitchell-learned-training-dwyane-wade


So if they're games are NOTHING ALIKE, then WHY IN THE HELL is he patterning his game AFTER D WADE???? They obviously had shit IN COMMON! I NEVER said their games were 100% alike!!!


You are just tiresome and endlessly stupid. These kind of ham-fisted arguments are 101 for you. It's not worth my time. Btw, if he's Patterning his after after D Wade" he's doing a really terrible job of it. Have a good night. Take care.

[FireDavidKahn]

Now compare the defense

[RoseCity07]

Maybe Gilbert Arenas?

Lillard has more range. He's way quicker. More clutch than Gilbert Arenas too.


Arenas freakin choked because Lebron got in his ear. That ain't happening to Lillard.

[bizil]

You are just tiresome and endlessly stupid. These kind of ham-fisted arguments are 101 for you. It's not worth my time. Btw, if he's Patterning his after after D Wade" he's doing a really terrible job of it. Have a good night. Take care.

The mistake u made was when u said they Wade and Mitchell are NOTHING ALIKE! Wade, Mitchell, several NBA analysts, and my humble self ALL disagree!

[bizil]

Lillard has more range. He's way quicker. More clutch than Gilbert Arenas too.


Arenas freakin choked because Lebron got in his ear. That ain't happening to Lillard.



I would say Dame was more efficient for sure. Gil had some crazy range though. U gotta look at shit as evolution though sometimes. When I look at Dame, I look at somebody who EVOLVED what Gil was doing back then. The point is Gil and Lillard is a MORE VALID comparison than Lillard to Wade in terms of playing style.

[CelticBaller]

Wade was a good defender too

[Smoke117]

The mistake u made was when u said they Wade and Mitchell are NOTHING ALIKE! Wade, Mitchell, several NBA analysts, and my humble self ALL disagree!

How can you be like someone when you do nothing well that they do well?

[RoseCity07]

I would say Dame was more efficient for sure. Gil had some crazy range though. U gotta look at shit as evolution though sometimes. When I look at Dame, I look at somebody who EVOLVED what Gil was doing back then. The point is Gil and Lillard is a MORE VALID comparison than Lillard to Wade in terms of playing style.

Agree there. Wade was flat out special. Like in his prime he moved like Jordan. Arenas and Lillard aren't at that level.

[Smoke117]

Wade didn't have great range on his shot but he was always confident shooting and shot a very high percentage from inside the 3 point line.

That's actually a good point. Wade may have never been what you'd consider a "good" shooter, but he kept the defense honest and for such a "bad shooter" he sure suckered a lot of players with his GOAT shot fake. Defenders were never playing off Wade.

[raprap]

:lol

[red1]

lol.

[imdaman99]

No. Lillard is a killer but he ain't nearly as good as prime Wade. Wade in 2009 might have had the greatest SG season ever.

[Smoke117]

No. Lillard is a killer but he ain't nearly as good as prime Wade. Wade in 2009 might have had the greatest SG season ever.

Easily the greatest non Jordan SG season anyway.

[Cali Syndicate]

The way they approach the game, John wall is similar to wade. Both attack the rim, and have a balanced score pass style, and both are really good help defenders consudering their position. With that said, Lillard and wall are nothing alike.

[Smoke117]

The way they approach the game, John wall is similar to wade. Both attack the rim, and have a balanced score pass style, and both are really good help defenders consudering their position. With that said, Lillard and wall are nothing alike.

Similar in the way a Tiger is similar to a house cat I guess. They are both felines. John Wall is a complete scrub compared to Dwyane Wade. He's also completely useless if he doesn't get to the rim. Again, from 3-10 feet Wade was excellent with his floater/toss shots. He's a 46% career shooter from that range while Wall shoots 32% from this range for his career. Wall also has about 2 good defensive seasons. The more he shot the worse his defense got. He hasn't played any semblance of decent defense since 2016. Wade was always a good defensive player from beginning of his career and great in his prime.

[Cali Syndicate]

Similar in the way a Tiger is similar to a house cat I guess. They are both felines. John Wall is a complete scrub compared to Dwyane Wade. He's also completely useless if he doesn't get to the rim. Again, from 3-10 feet Wade was excellent with his floater/toss shots. He's a 46% career shooter from that range while Wall shoots 32% from this range for his career. Wall also has about 2 good defensive seasons. The more he shot the worse his defense got. He hasn't played any semblance of decent defense since 2016. Wade was always a good defensive player from beginning and great in his prime.

Just because a player isn't as good as another, doesn't mean they can't have a similar playing style.

[Smoke117]

Just because a player isn't as good as another, doesn't mean they can't have a similar playing style.

He doesn't as I just pointed out. Wall has to get to the rim completely to be useful. Wade actually was a skilled basketball player and could go to floaters and toss shots. John Wall has literally never had one efficient scoring season in his entire career.

[Cali Syndicate]

Lillard has more range. He's way quicker. More clutch than Gilbert Arenas too.


Arenas freakin choked because Lebron got in his ear. That ain't happening to Lillard.

Arenas had range, he just didn't exhibit it like todays players do. Lillard is easily the better athlete though and more explosive, but arenas was deceptively quick and had great change of pace.

Lillard is clearly the better player.

[Cali Syndicate]

So, for you, similar playing style has to equal similar caliber of player?

[Smoke117]

So, for you, similar playing style has to equal similar caliber of player?

You clowns need to stop comparing every decent to all star goddamn athletic guard 6'4" or smaller to Dwyane Wade. That's literally the basis of every "like Dwyane wade" argument.

[BigShotBob]

Lillard and Wade play nothing alike.

Lillard is far more similar to Curry.

He's a skill/finesse player.

Wade had skill, but athleticism and power as well. Much more akin to college/young Jordan.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

retarded comp:oldlol:

not even gonna get into defense but Wade is arguably the GOAT slasher in his prime. Lillard isnt anywhere close. Wade uses his strength, explosiveness and athleticism alot. Dame uses it but hes more finesse. And Wade was known for playing bully ball in the post and overpowering dudes at 6'3 and crashing the o glass

dame is one of the best shooters in the league and Wade was never in that discussion but had some nice midrange seasons

their games are very different

[Bronbron23]

Dame Lillard = a short prime Wade with a jump shot

This is my take having watched half a game of Lillard for the first time ever.

:coleman:

Which is pretty good I guess. I like his game, strong drives, seems likeable and a good leader, unlike wade.
I like Dame alot but he's nowhere close to Wade in his prime. He can't impact the game on both ends like wade could. If your talking just offence then yeah he's close but there's a whole other half of the ball that your forgetting. Y'all just caught up in the moment.

[Phoenix]

I like Dame alot but he's nowhere close to Wade in his prime. He can't impact the game on both ends like wade could. If your talking just offence then yeah he's close but there's a whole other half of the ball that your forgetting. Y'all just caught up in the moment.

This is the effect of Wade subjugating his game to incorporate Lebron. It's been 8-10 years since we've seen *that* guy and in the world of 'what have you done for me lately' sports, a lot of people have forgotten just how fukking special peak Wade was.

[sammichoffate]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ForcefulEsteemedBovine-small.gif

[CTbasketball92]

I'm talking in terms of freak athletic ability and body type that Mitchell is the MOST SIMILAR to Wade in today's game! And I'm saying MOST SIMILAR. That doesn't mean they play exactly the same. If u NOTICED I said Mitchell isn't on Wade's level yet AT ALL! Because he isn't the defender, passer, or dominant scorer YET that Wade was. My point was Donovan Mitchell FOR THE REASONS I pointed out is the closest to D Wade today. I'm NOT SAYING he's close to a prime D Wade yet as a player. The kid is still All Star caliber with a ton of upside though! And he FOR SURE slashes enough to the rack to showcase his freak athletic ability! If u can't see some similarities between Mitchell and Wade, u are blind! HELL even D Wade SAID Mitchell reminds him of himself!!!!


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/12/03/nba-star-dwyane-wade-lauds-donovan-mitchell/2192954002/


I randomly stumbled upon this, and even though Mitchell is a great athlete, hes 6'1.25" without shoes compared to DWade's 6'3.75" without shoes. So with a shoe with average sole (1.2 inches added) D. Wade is actually what should be considered a legit 6'5" in the NBA. It's interesting then that he's always had the undersized description even though he's also bulky and has an 8'6" standing reach.

With average-sized shoe soles, D. Mitchell still comes in at under 6'3," so he's actually much shorter than DWade overall. He also isn't as fast or as good of a ballhandler. Definitely more bounce though.

I agree with the Dame-Gilbert arenas comparisons, but I actually think Gil was a bit more athletic because he's faster/quicker compared to Dame, who is more of a floor general.

[RoseCity07]

I saw this as a Lillard fan. Wade was a way better basketball player in his prime. Much better.

I wonder if Isaiah Thomas is a better comparison. Lillard has shown a lot more hustle on defense in recent years. Especially when he got in Westbrook's face in the playoffs.

Wade is just on a legedary level. Like MJ level when his knees were good.