KD chasing history, highest PER in NBA history

[TheCorporation]

Right now Kevin Durant's PER is currently at 27.6 which means he may have a chance to crack the top 10 all-time list if he continues to light it up.

As it currently stands, please find the current top 10 PER list in playoff history

Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)

1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
4. Jordan - 31.7 (1990, 16 games)
5. LeBron - 31.1 (2014, 20 games)
6. Shaq ---- 30.5 (2000, 23 games)
7. LeBron - 30.3 (2012, 23 games)
8. LeBron - 30.1 (2017, 18 games)
9. Jordan - 30.1 (1993, 19 games)
10. LeBron - 30.0 (2016, 21 games)

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ, Shaq, and MJ

[3ball]

Career PER Playoffs:

1) MJ


Career PER Regular Season:

1) MJ

[SouBeachTalents]

You're missing 2000 Shaq

[TheCorporation]

Career PER Playoffs:

1) MJ


Career PER Regular Season:

1) MJ

Oh hi :lol

So now it's all about career numbers? :roll:

[TheCorporation]

You're missing 2000 Shaq

Thanks brotha :cheers:

[TheCorporation]

Career PER Playoffs:

1) MJ


Career PER Regular Season:

1) MJ

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ and MJ

[highwhey]

definitely a top 10 2nd option :applause:

[warriorfan]

Lebron lost after joining with the 2nd and 4th highest PER in the league

[TheCorporation]

definitely a top 10 2nd option :applause:

KD da goat #2 option

[E_Stamkos]

But apparently to some around here, he's been "just alright"

:rolleyes:

[Real14]

KD da goat #2 option
Reported for lying and stupidity.

[TheCorporation]

But apparently to some around here, he's been "just alright"

:rolleyes:
Well he will have to do even more than what he's doing right now. He is still below, but he is close.

[FKAri]

Career PER Playoffs:

1) MJ


Career PER Regular Season:

1) MJ

You might want to sit down for this..

Unfortunately, we do not know for certain how Hollinger generated these elements of PER. However, Hollinger himself revealed that their development was tweaked so as to ensure that Michael Jordan would hold the league-leading PER at PER’s inception.
Are you OK, bro?

[90sgoat]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11494741/slack_imgs_4.gif

[highwhey]

You might want to sit down for this..

Are you OK, bro?
wait, so a stat cherry picked to make MJ the best...was beaten by LeBron? :eek:

[3ball]

Oh hi :lol

So now it's all about career numbers? :roll:
PER isn't dependant on games played. A player with 1 game can have higher PER than mike

PER is a rate stat - rate of production

MJ's rate of production was higher

[3ball]

Btw, the reason lebron's career PER is lower than MJ's is because he had numerous really low PER's of 25 or lower (06-08, 11, 15)

Whereas MJ never had a PER below 26.7 except his rookie year and baseball year

MJ's 87-93 beat any such stretch for lebron, RS or PO

[TheCorporation]

You might want to sit down for this..

Are you OK, bro?

wait, so a stat cherry picked to make MJ the best...was beaten by LeBron? :eek:

[TheCorporation]

PER isn't dependant on games played. A player with 1 game can have higher PER than mike

PER is a rate stat - rate of production

MJ's rate of production was higher

#3 ranked not bad

[TheCorporation]

Btw, the reason lebron's career PER is lower than MJ's is because he had numerous really low PER's of 25 or lower (06-08, 11, 15)

Whereas MJ never had a PER below 26.7 except his rookie year and baseball year

MJ's 87-93 beat any such stretch for lebron, RS or PO

Oh :(

So 3rd best?


https://i.postimg.cc/Pqr5DjBt/Dunkdunkdunk.jpg

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=FKAri]You might want to sit down for this..
[QUOTE]Unfortunately, we do not know for certain how Hollinger generated these elements of PER. However, Hollinger himself revealed that their development was tweaked so as to ensure that Michael Jordan would hold the league-leading PER at PER

[Big164]

Oh hi :lol

So now it's all about career numbers? :roll:
Its about career averages. And MJ always wins those.

[3ball]

Wait a minute, are you telling me Hollinger created Per to be the "jordan scale"?

Where basically Mj equals perfection?

Sooooo, Lebron broke the scale and out Mj'ed Mj?:biggums:
Notice how there's never a source to that quote

LeFraud stans are so desperate and wrong that they must lie and make stuff up.. no surprise though because they stan a fraud.. monkey see monkey do

[TheCorporation]

Lebron lost after joining with the 2nd and 4th highest PER in the league

https://i.postimg.cc/Vv8jS0GV/qweqweqweqwe.png

[TheCorporation]

Notice how there's never a source to that quote

LeFraud stans are so desperate and wrong that they must lie and make stuff up.. no surprise though because they stan a fraud.. monkey see monkey do

Oh :(

So MJ ranks 3rd best? Not bad :confusedshrug:

[TheCorporation]

PER isn't dependant on games played.

Getting out of the 1st round is dependent upon games played though... :(

1-9 won't help career totals so I can see why an MJ fan would shy away from career totals :roll: :roll:

[Smoke117]

https://i.postimg.cc/Vv8jS0GV/qweqweqweqwe.png

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Always knew Curryfan was a huge fakkot. :lol

[3ball]

1-9 won't help career totals so I can see why an MJ fan would shy away from career totals :roll: :roll:


Since the goat is the best, the only way to knock him is to criticize things he did that everyone else did WORSE - that's what people must do with MJ

For example - 89' MJ falters with a 2-1 lead against Detroit, but Kobe loses a 3-1 lead and lebron had the goat choke in 11'.... Or MJ goes 1-9 with 8 seeds, while others do the same more often and with higher seeds.... Or MJ loses with an all-star twice, but lebron does too and also 3 times with TWO all-stars

Btw, that last one - MJ losing twice with an all-star - that's the least anyone ever lost with an all-star - so MJ is goat because he was the most unbeatable with the minimal help that ALL players need to win

[TheCorporation]

Since the goat is the best, the only way to knock him is to criticize things he did that everyone else did WORSE - that's what people must do with MJ

For example - 89' MJ falters with a 2-1 lead against Detroit, but Kobe loses a 3-1 lead and lebron had the goat choke in 11'.... Or MJ goes 1-9 with 8 seeds, while others do the same more often and with higher seeds.... Or MJ loses with an all-star twice, but lebron does too and also 3 times with TWO all-stars

Btw, that last one - MJ losing twice with an all-star - that's the least anyone ever lost with an all-star - so MJ is goat because he was the most unbeatable with the minimal help that ALL players need to win

Bro. Breathe.

MJ is nearly #2 or worse in everything.

PER #2
VORP #2
Points #2
Steals #2
Game winners #2
Elim game ppg #2

Guess who is #1 in all of those? :eek:

[3ball]

Bro. Breathe.

MJ is nearly #2 or worse in everything.

PER #1
VORP #2
Points per game #1
Game winner frequency #1
Elim game ppg who cares

MJ is #1 in all of those? :eek:
Fixed

Only MJ is top 2 in the "big 4" advanced stats - PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP - for both the regular season and playoffs

MJ was also #1 in plus-minus until Curry broke his record in 16'

So.mj owns the advanced stats.. and the raw stats - only player to average 30/5/5 and 10-time scoring champ and 3-time steals leader

[Smoke117]

KD surpasses LeBron with this threepeat and 3rd FMVP in a row and then surpasses Jordan and eventually Kareem for GOAT when he threepeats on the Knicks. :bowdown:

[TheCorporation]

Fixed

Only MJ is top 2 in the "big 4" advanced stats - PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP - for both the regular season and playoffs

MJ was also #1 in plus-minus until Curry broke his record in 16'

So.mj owns the advanced stats.. and the raw stats - only player to average 30/5/5 and 10-time scoring champ and 3-time steals leader

https://i.postimg.cc/Pf6NQPdB/Playoff_Leaders_NBA_hx.jpg

More post season records by LeBron

#1 in PER
#1 in VORP
#1 in game winners
#1 in elimination game ppg

Finals stuff is a lock for LeBron once again:

2015:
36-13-9 and earns FMVP votes (epic performance w/o #2 or #3 option) Could you imagine MJ playing without Pippen and Rodman? Oh wait...We did see that. 1-9

2016:
https://i.postimg.cc/dVTXP3fm/8bd81a50eb70b4f479f5a77d891c133d.jpg

2017:
https://i.postimg.cc/05J0MH4g/Most_30pt_games.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FsybGkmD/Most_All_Time.jpg

2018:
https://i.postimg.cc/3JCVsRYx/Averaged_trip_dub.jpg

It's just not close man. I'm very sorry for the bad news.

[3ball]

The goat doesn't need big graphics to make his record look good... :oldlol:

The simple facts will do:

Only MJ is top 2 in the "big 4" advanced stats - PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP - for both the regular season and playoffs

MJ was also #1 in plus-minus until Curry broke his record in 16'

So MJ owns the advanced stats.. and the raw stats - only player to average 30/5/5 and 10-time scoring champ and 3-time steals leader

[TheCorporation]

WS = LeBron
WS48 = LeBron
PER = LeBron
VORP = LeBron
Points = LeBron

Should I continue?

Where's that thread I need to bump it :lol Dare me to post the defensive stats between LBJ and MJ?

Never mind I wont, this thread is about PER not destroying MJ's fragile legacy :D

[3ball]

WS = LeBron
WS48 = MJ
PER = MJ
VORP = LeBron
PPG = MJ

Should I continue?

Where's that thread I need to bump it :lol

Never mind I wont, this thread is about PER not destroying MJ's fragile legacy :D
Fixed

Stop lying about PER and WS/48 - MJ is #1 all-time in those stats

If you have to lie, ur wrong and there's no bigger waste of time

[TheCorporation]

Fixed

Stop lying about PER and WS/48 - MJ is #1 all-time in those stats

PEAK, nope. Career yes.

LeBron wins WS career so don't forget that either :pimp:

But let's focus up, this is about PER and if KD can crack the top 10 baby boy

[3ball]

PEAK, nope. Career yes.

LeBron wins WS career so don't forget that either :pimp:

But let's focus up, this is about PER and if KD can crack the top 10 baby boy
Lebron has peak losing PER

MJ has peak PER otherwise - winning PER, career PER, etc.. :bowdown:... Lebron only beats MJ at losing and stats related to losing

[TheCorporation]

Lebron has peak losing PER

MJ has peak PER otherwise - winning PER, career PER, etc.. :bowdown:... Lebron only beats MJ at losing and stats related to losing


Right now Kevin Durant's PER is currently at 27.6 which means he may have a chance to crack the top 10 all-time list if he continues to light it up.

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ, Shaq, and MJ

[3ball]

Right now Kevin Durant's PER is currently at 27.6 which means he may have a chance to crack the top 10 all-time list if he continues to light it up.

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ, Shaq, and MJ
After this season, half the public or more will think durant > lebron

Lebron can only decline in all-time ratings from here on out - he should retire immediately to avoid further sliding.. :roll: .. seems crazy, but true.

[TheCorporation]

After this season, half the public or more will think durant > lebron

Lebron can only decline in all-time ratings from here on out - he should retire immediately to avoid further sliding.. :roll: .. seems crazy, but true.

https://i.postimg.cc/nVwH1QcP/Route-19-toto.jpg

[Gileraracer]

Right now Kevin Durant's PER is currently at 27.6 which means he may have a chance to crack the top 10 all-time list if he continues to light it up.

As it currently stands, please find the current top 10 PER list in playoff history

Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)

1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
4. Jordan - 31.7 (1990, 16 games)
5. LeBron - 31.1 (2014, 20 games)
6. Shaq ---- 30.5 (2000, 23 games)
7. LeBron - 30.3 (2012, 23 games)
8. LeBron - 30.1 (2017, 18 games)
9. Jordan - 30.1 (1993, 19 games)
10. LeBron - 30.0 (2016, 21 games)

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ, Shaq, and MJ

Please mark all the won finals

[NLZ]

Check Kawhi Leonard's past 2 playoff runs (both 31.5+ per, good for top 5) and tell me this thread has relevance. Min 14 games, why? Random...

[Mr Feeny]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11494741/slack_imgs_4.gif

Agree with this. He is far better than LeBron. Glad even LeBron fanboys like the OP are beginning to understand this.

[FKAri]

Lebron has peak losing PER

MJ has peak PER otherwise - winning PER, career PER, etc.. :bowdown:... Lebron only beats MJ at losing and stats related to losing
So MJ was a front runner and gave up when it wasn't rigged for him? Got it.

[TheCorporation]

Agree with this. He is far better than LeBron. Glad even LeBron fanboys like the OP are beginning to understand this.

Well like I mentioned it's still early so we will see... he has a chance. But even with all of those 40-point games he is still below the top 10.

[Bankaii]

I still don't see how anyone can take what this dude accomplishes seriously.
He's about to 3-peat FMVP and still won't crack most people's top 10s.

[TheCorporation]

I still don't see how anyone can take what this dude accomplishes seriously.
He's about to 3-peat FMVP and still won't crack most people's top 10s.

This

It's like people already forgot about 2012, 2014, and 2016 specifically...

'12: Cucked by King James

'14: without Westbrook loses in five in the second round

'16: blows a 3-1 lead when his second option is averaging 27-11-7-4 :lol

Cupcake

[E_Stamkos]

This

It's like people already forgot about 2012, 2014, and 2016 specifically...

'12: Cucked by King James

'14: without Westbrook loses in five in the second round

'16: blows a 3-1 lead when his second option is averaging 27-11-7-4 :lol

Cupcake

Cucked?

He was a 23 year old kid, putting up very respectable outputs (in his first finals) against prime Lebron, Bosh and an aging but albeit still really good Wade.

Stupid kid.

[TheCorporation]

Cucked?

He was a 23 year old kid, putting up very respectable outputs (in his first finals) against prime Lebron, Bosh and an aging but albeit still really good Wade.

Stupid kid.

Yeah..He also had Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka

:lol Rookie NBA fan alert

[E_Stamkos]

Yeah..He also had Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka

:lol Rookie NBA fan alert

Who were also all playing in their first finals against a proven, vet savvy team with all time greats.

It's disconcerting that somebody as stupid as you is allowed to roam free.

[warriorfan]

Who were also all playing in their first finals against a proven, vet savvy team with all time greats.

It's disconcerting that somebody as stupid as you is allowed to roam free.

For real. I thought this was pretty basic common knowledge. Hell, even LeBron still had stage fright even after his second Finals appearance at age 25.

[TheCorporation]

Who were also all playing in their first finals against a proven, vet savvy team with all time greats.

It's disconcerting that somebody as stupid as you is allowed to roam free.

3 future MVPs and DPOY candidate. Poor guys :(

[E_Stamkos]

For real. I thought this was pretty basic common knowledge. Hell, even LeBron still had stage fright even after his second Finals appearance at age 25.

But that's the thing. He didn't even choke out. He put up VERY respectable outputs for a 23 year old.

Whereas Lebron did... While older and in his prime a mere few years prior.

That aside.... Those early loss wounds are commonplace for eventual winners (in any sport). You sometimes have to get humbled in defeat to develop intangibles.


This kid doesn't have a leg to stand on... But that's his shtick... Boring repetitious roll

[E_Stamkos]

3 future MVPs and DPOY candidate. Poor guys :(


Again...

Very young players, competing in their first finals.... Against bonafide all time greats.

So to assert he got 'cucked' is completely abursd.

But you already know this... You're just an attention seeking d1ckboy who can't help of save himself

[TheCorporation]

Again...

Very young players, competing in their first finals.... Against bonafide all time greats.

So to assert he got 'cucked' is completely abursd.

But you already know this... You're just an attention seeking d1ckboy who can't help of save himself

What it really comes down to is you're just an idiotic hater that is blinded by LeBron's greatness. You'll take anything you can to skew it against him. This is obvious.

Try again, rookie fan.

[TheCorporation]

He's in the PER playoff top 10 five times, and holds the number one and number two spot. And yet you will still find a way to hate on it.

[E_Stamkos]

What it really comes down to is you're just an idiotic hater that is blinded by LeBron's greatness. You'll take anything you can to skew it against him. This is obvious.

Try again, rookie fan.


lolololol

That defense

Well.... Well.... "You're just a hater!!!! You rookie fan!"

You have the debating skills of my 3 year old cousin... But with a smaller dick

[E_Stamkos]

He's in the VORP playoff top 10 five times, and holds the number one and number two VORP spot. And yet you will still find a way to hate on his VORP.

:cry:

Tell me more about dat VORP

[TheCorporation]

lolololol

That defense

Well.... Well.... "You're just a hater!!!! You rookie fan!"

You have the debating skills of my 3 year old cousin... But with a smaller dick

LeBron is ranked #1 in nearly everything

E Stankos: B-b-b-bu he not that good

:facepalm

[E_Stamkos]

LeBron is ranked #1 in nearly everything

E Stankos: B-b-b-bu he not that good

:facepalm

I literally asserted in this thread that he's an all time great (twice) lol

You have the reading capabilities of a bukake victim.

But... But.... Get a f*ucking job

[TheCorporation]

I literally asserted in this thread that he's an all time great (twice) lol

You have the reading capabilities of a bukake victim.

But... But.... Get a f*ucking job

I have a job, you get one queer bait :lol

Where do you rank LeBron then?

[Manny98]

I literally asserted in this thread that he's an all time great (twice) lol

You have the reading capabilities of a bukake victim.

But... But.... Get a f*ucking job
Meltdown :lol

[TheCorporation]

Meltdown :lol

Big time :lol

That dude is always emotional

[Mr Feeny]

Notice how there's never a source to that quote

LeFraud stans are so desperate and wrong that they must lie and make stuff up.. no surprise though because they stan a fraud.. monkey see monkey do

Yeah it's made up. Hollinger never said this and there isn't a single quote out there by him even indicating that this was even close to true.

What is amazing is Jordan is the PER leader before people knew what PER was and so he couldn't base his game around maximising his PER.

[E_Stamkos]

Meltdown :lol

Nets in 7 :roll:

Pretending to banned :roll:

Pretending to be from Brooklyn :roll:

[dazzer87]

Nets in 7 :roll:

Pretending to banned :roll:

Pretending to be from Brooklyn :roll:
:roll:
:roll:
:roll:

[warriorfan]

But that's the thing. He didn't even choke out. He put up VERY respectable outputs for a 23 year old.

Whereas Lebron did... While older and in his prime a mere few years prior.

That aside.... Those early loss wounds are commonplace for eventual winners (in any sport). You sometimes have to get humbled in defeat to develop intangibles.


This kid doesn't have a leg to stand on... But that's his shtick... Boring repetitious roll

Sick reference :lol

[TheCorporation]

Nets in 7 :roll:

Pretending to banned :roll:

Pretending to be from Brooklyn :roll:

E STANKos emotional meltdown

What's new :confusedshrug:

[TheCorporation]

Focus up, right now Kevin Durant's PER is currently at 27.6 which means he may have a chance to crack the top 10 all-time list if he continues to light it up.

As it currently stands, please find the current top 10 PER list in playoff history

Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)

1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
4. Jordan - 31.7 (1990, 16 games)
5. LeBron - 31.1 (2014, 20 games)
6. Shaq ---- 30.5 (2000, 23 games)
7. LeBron - 30.3 (2012, 23 games)
8. LeBron - 30.1 (2017, 18 games)
9. Jordan - 30.1 (1993, 19 games)
10. LeBron - 30.0 (2016, 21 games)

Could KD finally crack the top 10 this year and join LBJ, Shaq, and MJ

[Manny98]

Nets in 7 :roll:

Pretending to banned :roll:

Pretending to be from Brooklyn :roll:
Congrats your team did better than us by one round making it to the second round must be some real accomplishment as a Craptors fan :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

Congrats your team did better than us by one round making it to the second round must be some real accomplishment as a Craptors fan :oldlol:

WAIT, Stank bitch is a Raptors fan?


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No wonder he hates LeBron :roll:

[E_Stamkos]

Congrats your team did better than us by one round making it to the second round must be some real accomplishment as a Craptors fan :oldlol:

If you weren't such a retard, you would have been able to comprehend that I was making fun of YOU... Not the shitbox team you've arbitrarily decided to route for.

But as everyone around here knows... Basic intelligence is not a strong point of yours.

Playoff mode activated

[E_Stamkos]

WAIT, Stank bitch is a Raptors fan?


AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

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No wonder he hates LeBron :roll:

I mean my avatar is of Skeet'akim

I root for a team.

You should try it some time.

Instead of obsessively defending the honour of one player who would probably quicker shit in your mouth than offer you a moment of his time.

:cheers:

[Manny98]

WAIT, Stank bitch is a Raptors fan?


AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

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No wonder he hates LeBron :roll:
https://i.postimg.cc/kGKVS554/2-Vhza6w-1.jpg


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Dray n Klay]

WAIT, Stank bitch is a Raptors fan?


AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA

AHAHAAH HA HA HA HAH AH AHHAAH HAH HA


No wonder he hates LeBron :roll:
:roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

:roll: :roll:

:roll: :roll:

My brother is back :cheers:

Told them to free you early but KBlaze is trippin