imdaman, what do you have to say about sharia law here?

[ArbitraryWater]

https://twitter.com/drmom47/status/1123991500281516035


:mad:

[Smoke117]

Aren't you a german cuck who gladly welcomes middle eastern migrants into your country? The same migrants who regularly rape your women? Hum.

[stalkerforlife]

Aren't you a german cuck who gladly welcomes middle eastern migrants into your country? The same migrants who regularly rape your women? Hum.

Yes, he allows them in.

He's the designated door holder.

You got him.

[red1]

let them do what they want to do in indonesia as long as they all consent to it.


if they try to bring sharia law to you then just tell them to **** off.


it's not that complicated.

[ArbitraryWater]

let them do what they want to do in indonesia as long as they all consent to it.


if they try to bring sharia law to you then just tell them to **** off.


it's not that complicated.

i personally care about those women there and want to oppose the thing from the ground up

[red1]

i personally care about those women there and want to oppose the thing from the ground up
:facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

:facepalm

how is that something you facepalm at?

Dumbass.

[red1]

how is that something you facepalm at?

Dumbass.
I facepalm because I don't believe you. In fact I know that you're full of shit and I'd bet money that you actually don't do anything for any women. It's a pretty safe wager.


Tell me one good thing you've done for a single woman in your own neighborhood. Do you volunteer anywhere? Do you give charity? I doubt it.


Fake-ass outrage culture. I care about the wimminz so I'm going to confront Imdaman on insidehoops - **** outta here. :roll:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Why don't you post for what crime she was convicted.

And why don't you mention the actual consequences of those things after we die.

Oh wait truth doesn't suit your agenda.

It gives me delight to see scum like you AW get completely humiliated. I have more respect for kuffar than for apostates.

Your despicable apostate of a father slanders his own people and runs away and now his infidel son is getting disgraced.

Priceless.

[ArbitraryWater]

I facepalm because I don't believe you. In fact I know that you're full of shit and I'd bet money that you actually don't do anything for any women. It's a pretty safe wager.


Tell me one good thing you've done for a single woman in your own neighborhood. Do you volunteer anywhere? Do you give charity? I doubt it.


Fake-ass outrage culture. I care about the wimminz so I'm going to confront Imdaman on insidehoops - **** outta here. :roll:

:wtf:

I need to give to charity to care about this?

I can't oppose sharia law unless I wait at the corner and carry old women past across the street?

this doesn't have anything to do with helping women, this has to do with helping people, first and foremost.

what would me spending money on whatever female charity you assume there to be relate to the above instance, and sharia law treating women as 2nd class citizens?

You think I a start a thread on ISH to fake outrage, get whatever personal/karma credit aligned to my name?

No amount of facepalms could fully depict the retardation in your comment.


Bottom line:

Continue engaging in cringy beef wars with ego killer, because arguments and logic aren't your thing.

[ArbitraryWater]

Why don't you post for what crime she was convicted.

And why don't you mention the actual consequences of those things after we die.

Oh wait truth doesn't suit your agenda.

It gives me delight to see scum like you AW get completely humiliated. I have more respect for kuffar than for apostates.

Your despicable apostate of a father slanders his own people and runs away and now his infidel son is getting disgraced.

Priceless.

It gives me delight whenever you expose yourself.

Takes away your credibility for everyone else.

The true example of fake righteousness

[red1]

:wtf:

I need to give to charity to care about this?

I can't oppose sharia law unless I wait at the corner and carry old women past across the street?

this doesn't have anything to do with helping women, this has to do with helping people, first and foremost.

what would me spending money on whatever female charity you assume there to be relate to the above instance, and sharia law treating women as 2nd class citizens?

You think I a start a thread on ISH to fake outrage, get whatever personal/karma credit aligned to my name?

No amount of facepalms could fully depict the retardation in your comment.


Bottom line:

Continue engaging in cringy beef wars with ego killer, because arguments and logic aren't your thing.
you're full of shit. it's very very obvious.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

It gives me delight whenever you expose yourself.

Takes away your credibility for everyone else.

The true example of fake righteousness

It is fitting to LOVE that which is good, and Hate that which is Evil.

Your father ran away from Iraq and slandered his own people, and you slandered them as well on these forums.

And now you are trying to stop God's Law from being established.

Fake righteousness aptly describes this thread right here. Do you even care about the welfare of women?

If so, then why don't you understand that the Sharia also protects women in many, many ways.
The dignity of women is so precious that if someone dares slander a chaste woman, that's a major sin where they will be cursed now and in the Hereafter.

That would be a humongous upgrade from hearing all that filthy high school locker room talk about who is sleeping with who.

The Sharia commands that male guardians are there to protect women who are adorned in modest clothing--and that even looking lustfully at a woman is prohibited--which would reduce rape cases big time.

The Sharia entails providing financial sustenance to ensure that these women have adequate means to raise their children instead of being forced
to slave away at jobs while their kid grows up in an overpriced nanny.

Moreover, the prohibition of interest is the perfect cure to gross wealth inequality.

The SHaria entails that a mahr (dowry) is given to women at the time of marriage to keep them financially safe in case the marriage goes wrong.

And much more.

edit: ArbitraryWater---- Did you just quote that Dr. Deb Woman? Do you HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE for claiming God has children or directing worship to other than God? Do you have any idea of the fate of Christians who invent lies about God in the Hereafter?

edit: I may not like you but I don't wish Hell on anybody.

And that's what Dr. DEB IS DOING!!!!

Dr. Deb is inviting you to HELL AW.

[imdaman99]

Honestly, I don't know the full story. I don't support public beatings like that for any human, woman/man/anyone. I'm sure it's done to make you think twice about committing a crime yourself. And to be fair, we are taught that hellfire is a million times worse than what you can get on this world... so if you get punished in this life to atone for your sins, you're lucky.

But that's if you believe in the hereafter.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Honestly, I don't know the full story. I don't support public beatings like that for any human, woman/man/anyone. I'm sure it's done to make you think twice about committing a crime yourself. And to be fair, we are taught that hellfire is a million times worse than what you can get on this world... so if you get punished in this life to atone for your sins, you're lucky.

But that's if you believe in the hereafter.

Perfectly stated. That's the scary part.

[TheMan]

It is fitting to LOVE that which is good, and Hate that which is Evil.

Your father ran away from Iraq and slandered his own people, and you slandered them as well on these forums.

And now you are trying to stop God's Law from being established.

Fake righteousness aptly describes this thread right here. Do you even care about the welfare of women?

If so, then why don't you understand that the Sharia also protects women in many, many ways.
The dignity of women is so precious that if someone dares slander a chaste woman, that's a major sin where they will be cursed now and in the Hereafter.

That would be a humongous upgrade from hearing all that filthy high school locker room talk about who is sleeping with who.

The Sharia commands that male guardians are there to protect women who are adorned in modest clothing--and that even looking lustfully at a woman is prohibited--which would reduce rape cases big time.

The Sharia entails providing financial sustenance to ensure that these women have adequate means to raise their children instead of being forced
to slave away at jobs while their kid grows up in an overpriced nanny.

Moreover, the prohibition of interest is the perfect cure to gross wealth inequality.

The SHaria entails that a mahr (dowry) is given to women at the time of marriage to keep them financially safe in case the marriage goes wrong.

And much more.

edit: ArbitraryWater---- Did you just quote that Dr. Deb Woman? Do you HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE for claiming God has children or directing worship to other than God? Do you have any idea of the fate of Christians who invent lies about God in the Hereafter?

edit: I may not like you but I don't wish Hell on anybody.

And that's what Dr. DEB IS DOING!!!!
Ramadan has been tough on you lately, you're more surly than usual you blasphemer, purveyor of falsehoods. For that your soul shall forever be tormented if you do not repent...

Christ is the answer, find salvation through Him and save yourself from eternal damnation.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Ramadan has been tough on you lately,

Ramadan has not even begun.
And after studying harder, I realized that harshness has a place to----against evil.



you're more surly than usual you blasphemer

Jesus is not God.
Jesus is not God.
Jesus is not God
Jesus is not the son of God
Jesus is not the son of God.
Jesus is not the son of God.

I'll fight your blasphemy with Truth.



, purveyor of a falsehoods.

You said that "Mo is burning in a lake of fire." You claimed him to be a false prophet. You claim Jesus to be the way to salvation. Where is your proof?

Truth is you don't know about Muhammad (PBUH), you claiming him a false prophet earns you God's curse--and you the only One who has the power to save His Creation is God Almighty. Each soul will be called to account.

You know well that the Bible has been corrupted by human hands and that the Qu'ran hasn't.

You also insulted God by believing and defending the Holy Trinity---blasphemy. Trinity is nothing but a man-made fabrication by misguided heretics in past times that contradicts even the Old Testament--


Deuteronomy 6:4 4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

You were called out previously for having NO KNOWLEDGE of the Hereafter of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and you continued to forward that lie.

You have the nerve to insult Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when the Bible AND the TORAH foreshadowed him in Deut 18:18.

8I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.



For that your soul shall forever be tormented if you do not repent...

I appreciate the concern for my welfare--really--but I'm afraid the person who has to change their beliefs is you, Christian. For as long as you blaspheme against God, as long as you make the mistake of worshipping other than God, as long as you keep calling Him"father", as long as you keep calling Jesus "Lord" and as long as you call upon "Jesus"--you are invalidating your faith via Shirk. You have absolutely no right to say filthy things like "mary, mother of G*d". It's a shame seriously because there are so many good things you guys do-- good things for people orphanages, charity, hospitals--why don't you extend that respect to the One who created you?

I repent to my Creator every day and I will continue to do so.

You and fellow Christians actually think you can get away with claiming The Almighty has children---that you are a "child of God" and that you can pray to Jesus?
a) God does not have children. He is The Creator. He is unlike His creation.
b) Fallible sin-prone humans can not be children of The Most High.
c) Jesus and your idols can not hear, let alone answeryour prayers.
d) The likeness of Jesus is like Adam---God created him.

Isa (AS) himself worshipped Allah (SWT) alone, prayed, fasted, and gave charity.

Isa (AS) NEVER claimed to be Divine--rather his followers and later folks like Saint Paul fabricated lies about him--which the Spanish still clung onto.



Christ is the answer, find salvation through Him and save yourself from eternal damnation.

That is the blasphemy and the purveyor of falsehoods you accuse others of.

The only way to be saved is to worship Allah, the Lord of All the Worlds, alone. That is the only way. That is also what Jesus (AS), and every single Prophet (PBUH) preached. To leave false gods and to worship the One True God alone.

Look no further than the Old Testament First Commandments where God spoke to Moses---and the rule was clear "Thou Shalt Have no Other Gods besides me.." yet now a few hundred years later people are taking Jesus as their Lord and Savior---when Isa (AS) is a servant of the Almighty.


Falsehood will perish and Truth shall remain.

[ArbitraryWater]

Honestly, I don't know the full story. I don't support public beatings like that for any human, woman/man/anyone. I'm sure it's done to make you think twice about committing a crime yourself. And to be fair, we are taught that hellfire is a million times worse than what you can get on this world... so if you get punished in this life to atone for your sins, you're lucky.

But that's if you believe in the hereafter.

lol, no kind of structural punishment will atone your sins.

that happens from within.

and if you believe hellfire is given to random, insignificant crimes than you have to re-evaluate that too.

anyway i wasnt trying to be confronting you here obviously, you just came to mind as I made the op

[Patrick Chewing]

Jesus is not God.
Jesus is not God.
Jesus is not God
Jesus is not the son of God
Jesus is not the son of God.
Jesus is not the son of God.

I'll fight your blasphemy with Truth.




Mohammed is a false prophet
Mohammed is a false prophet
Mohammed is a false prophet


See, I can do that too.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

lol, no kind of structural punishment will atone your sins.

Why don't you use actual Scriptural Evidence to support your argument?





and if you believe hellfire is given to random, insignificant crimes than you have to re-evaluate that too.

Why don't you explain who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell using actual Scriptural evidence?





anyway i wasnt trying to be confronting you here obviously, you just came to mind as I made the op

The reality of the situation is that you were a fitnah (test) for imdaman99's Faith. As a person grows in faith they will be pressed with similar situations/moral dilemmas to see if he will choose be faithful to God---or relinquishing to the people/selfish desires.

Of course, people who choose the former will be labelled as radicals, extremists, backwards, ostracized, mocked, belittled, oppressed, perhaps tortured and jailed etc---but that same person is fulfilling his purpose--- coming nearer to their Lord.

[ArbitraryWater]

i dont need scriptural evidence


and what scriptures say getting tortured publically will bring you closer to the lord?

dumbass :oldlol:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

i dont need scriptural evidence


Yes, you do. You need them as foundation when searching any religious knowledge.

You can't live life based off whims and people's opinions and whatever your pastor says blindly. You've got to take intellectual responsibility and study vigorously and make your choices in application to the guidance you believe you received from Allah (SWT)/God. If you don't well don't be surprised or butthurt if you end up in Hell.

You've got to conduct research and thorough investigation. As we have passed the age of maturity, now, regardless of whether you are Christian or Muslim, you believe in a Day of Reckoning and we were given an intellect to make the right choices.




and what scriptures say getting tortured publically will bring you closer to the lord?

You're joking right? To irk me, yeah?

Have you not heard of the "Seven Sleepers" in Church or through an Islamic perspective?

Have you not heard how people threw Abraham (PBUH) was thrown into a fire for breaking the townspeople idols---this is in Judaism, Christanity, and Islam?

Has your father not taught you how one of the major imams (Hanbali) spoke out against Mu'taswim heretical Mu'tazalite beliefs and got whippings in public--yet was renowned as a hero? https://amuslimconvertoncemore.blogspot.com/2010/06/the-flogging-of-imam-ahmad-ibn-hanbal-ra.html


Has your father not explained to you how the early Muslims, upon taking the Shahadah, were brutally tortured by the Mushrikeen in Makkah for choosing to abandon idol-worship and believing in Allah alone?


Of course they are going to be tested for their faith. ANd if they remain faithful through receiving intense physical abuse--then assuredly they have come closer to their Lord.



dumbass :oldlol:

We are all in need of knowledge.

[Lebowsky]

That's most likely Aceh province, which is one of the two autonomous regions in Indonesia and, since they are autonomous, they are unfortunately allowed to govern themselves by Sharia law there. Coincidentally (and unsurprisingly), it is the most backwards part of the country and also one of the poorest.

However, I want to stress the fact that Indonesia as a whole is NOTHING like that. It is a predominantly muslim country indeed, but there separation of religion and state. There were presidential elections just 3 weeks ago and the moderate, more secular candidate won by 10% difference. It's an amazing country full of kind, gentle people. Even Aceh people, who are way more conservative hardline muslims, are quite nice when they are outside of that shithole province.
Source: I live there.

[ArbitraryWater]

That's most likely Aceh province, which is one of the two autonomous regions in Indonesia and, since they are autonomous, they are unfortunately allowed to govern themselves by Sharia law there. Coincidentally (and unsurprisingly), it is the most backwards part of the country and also one of the poorest.

However, I want to stress the fact that Indonesia as a whole is NOTHING like that. It is a predominantly muslim country indeed, but there separation of religion and state. There were presidential elections just 3 weeks ago and the moderate, more secular candidate won by 10% difference. It's an amazing country full of kind, gentle people. Even Aceh people, who are way more conservative hardline muslims, are quite nice when they are outside of that shithole province.
Source: I live there.

Good to hear.

Is there anything done about the fact these older heads can basically be judge/jury/.. ? That needs to change

[iamgine]

Good to hear.

Is there anything done about the fact these older heads can basically be judge/jury/.. ? That needs to change
as usual, it's a complicated subject.

[DukeDelonte13]

what westerners think of as "sharia law" is some sh*t made up by a few scholars, it's not like there is this code in the quran that explains their legal system.


Any asian county muslim or not have ultra strict judicial systems.

[Bosnian Sajo]

You guys are all a bunch of ****ing idiots, every single one of you. EVERY single one of you, idc if you're christian or muslim.


Get tf off the computer and go speak with people, interact with them irl instead of living behind a computer screen. Absolutely pathetic.

[Bosnian Sajo]

what westerners think of as "sharia law" is some sh*t made up by a few scholars, it's not like there is this code in the quran that explains their legal system.


Any asian county muslim or not have ultra strict judicial systems.


For all these guys misquoting the Quran, they fail to mention that Sharia is only mentioned in the Quran ONCE, and it had NOTHING to do with law.

[Lebowsky]

what westerners think of as "sharia law" is some sh*t made up by a few scholars, it's not like there is this code in the quran that explains their legal system.


Any asian county muslim or not have ultra strict judicial systems.
This is very true, especially in southeast Asia.