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Vino24
05-04-2019, 10:46 PM
On the Warriors? :biggums: Durant is on a GOAT playoff run scoring wise :eek:

Im so nba'd out
05-04-2019, 10:52 PM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way

Vino24
05-04-2019, 10:54 PM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)
No he is not. Curry is a liability on defense and lately on offense as well. Durant singlehandedly almost beat prime healthy warriors with chuckbrook. Let that sink in. Durant is the difference between the Warriors being unstoppable or the Warriors losing to Bron every year.

warriorfan
05-04-2019, 10:57 PM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way

High iq post

Mr. Jabbar
05-04-2019, 11:02 PM
no1 rustles jimmies like the Dingo

Im so nba'd out
05-04-2019, 11:09 PM
No he is not. Curry is a liability on defense and lately on offense as well. Durant singlehandedly almost beat prime healthy warriors with chuckbrook. Let that sink in. Durant is the difference between the Warriors being unstoppable or the Warriors losing to Bron every year.
This isnt Jokic where he is the last line of defense and is suppose to be the anchor of the defense....a "bad defensive" guard who gives effort on defense is not crippling in the NBA.....


Harden
Redick
Irving
Murray
Lillard
Gordon

now name a list of bad starting defensive centers who are still in the playoffs
Jokic
Kanter

Kblaze8855
05-04-2019, 11:18 PM
This was one of the uglier games I

DMAVS41
05-04-2019, 11:20 PM
Not after that game. I'm a huge Curry guy, but he looked a step slow all night on both ends...

And that ending...ugh...

Vino24
05-04-2019, 11:20 PM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]This was one of the uglier games I

warriorfan
05-04-2019, 11:22 PM
He

Vino24
05-04-2019, 11:24 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]He

Wardell Curry
05-04-2019, 11:27 PM
Curry is the most important Warrior and their best player by far and it's not close.

Most of you only look at a boxscore and view the game on a surface level.

If you watch this game... you see Curry struggling mightily, and you see Durant popping off from all over the court.

And this is true... but what you don't see that is actually happening is that the entire Warriors team is standing around watching Durant and it takes the entire team out of synch and essentially destroys their identity and turns them into a slightly upgraded version of OKC from like 3 years ago.

When Curry is primarily handling the ball and everyone is moving and running around screens and the ball is flowing, the Warriors blow teams out.

When Durant is primarily handling the ball, everyone is standing around watching him be great... until he stops being great, and it drags the team down.

Kevin Durant is undeniably an amazing basketball player, but you can't compare his offensive impact to Steph Curry's when looking at a large pool of data. It's legitimately not even close.

NBASTATMAN
05-04-2019, 11:35 PM
Curry choked tonight missing like 4-5 layups...But he is the guy that dictates their offensive system.. But he has been in foul trouble the entire series because Houston has plenty of offensive weapons and they keep going at him..

And he keeps spraining that ankle.. That shit ain't nothing to play with.. :rockon:

Durant is the best one on one player since MJ.. So hard to guard .

CPointGod3
05-04-2019, 11:40 PM
This isnt Jokic where he is the last line of defense and is suppose to be the anchor of the defense....a "bad defensive" guard who gives effort on defense is not crippling in the NBA.....


Harden
Redick
Irving
Murray
Lillard
Gordon

now name a list of bad starting defensive centers who are still in the playoffs
Jokic
Kanter

Naming gordon as an example of a bad defensive guard is just.... dumb.

SpaceJam2
05-04-2019, 11:41 PM
He kind of deserves it. Blowing layups and dunks like it's going out of style :oldlol:

:lol

red1
05-04-2019, 11:41 PM
curry is amazing but he isn't kd. it was obvious from the first year that kd was the better player. people have to make up arguments that curry is more important. it's all b.s.

r0drig0lac
05-04-2019, 11:42 PM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way
no way

ElPigto
05-04-2019, 11:44 PM
Curry is the most important Warrior and their best player by far and it's not close.

Most of you only look at a boxscore and view the game on a surface level.

If you watch this game... you see Curry struggling mightily, and you see Durant popping off from all over the court.

And this is true... but what you don't see that is actually happening is that the entire Warriors team is standing around watching Durant and it takes the entire team out of synch and essentially destroys their identity and turns them into a slightly upgraded version of OKC from like 3 years ago.

When Curry is primarily handling the ball and everyone is moving and running around screens and the ball is flowing, the Warriors blow teams out.

When Durant is primarily handling the ball, everyone is standing around watching him be great... until he stops being great, and it drags the team down.

Kevin Durant is undeniably an amazing basketball player, but you can't compare his offensive impact to Steph Curry's when looking at a large pool of data. It's legitimately not even close.

You guys are so full of shit lol. Durant is the number one reason this Warriors team has been able to become a dynasty.

Bronbron23
05-05-2019, 12:02 AM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]He

Vragrant
05-05-2019, 12:02 AM
He's obviously still hurt. Doesn't look close to himself. Weird how he gets hurt almost every playoffs. Dunk attempt was such a stupid idea.

warriorfan
05-05-2019, 12:05 AM
Man this clowns still Rockies the curry is injured excuse. Don't forget about the sprained knee playa



Perhaps the most critical segment of this series came at the end of the third quarter of Game 4, Cleveland cutting the Warriors lead to three. The Q was rocking. The Finals hung in the balance.

Curry calmly called for the ball, shook a defender and drained a three, pushing Golden State to a six-point lead. In a reversal of roles, a gassed LeBron tried to answer with a three of his own at the buzzer, only to miss badly. When James went to the bench to rest at the start of the fourth quarter, the Warriors seized control of the game and the Finals.

Curry finished with 22 that night. He then dropped 37, including 17 in the fourth quarter, in Game 5. On Tuesday, he dropped a couple of massive threes to help stem a fourth-quarter Cleveland surge, then when double-teamed, hit a wide-open Klay Thompson for another.

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[SIZE="3"][I]Not only did Curry average an MVP-like 26 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals in 43 minutes per game, but as Kerr told his point guard, sometimes a point guard has to put his own game now in favor of managing the game for his teammates.

That is what Curry relayed when he said in the postgame press conference, "The Finals are not that different from normal NBA games. It's just the spotlight is different, and soar are the expectations. When you have an average game, you find out in the Finals that people were expecting more. But really, that stuff doesn't matter. It's all about winning. That's what I've learned. I just need to impact games, be myself every other night, do other things to help my team win and be OK with that. Manage the game from a point-guard standpoint, find a way to win and that's what we did

NBASTATMAN
05-05-2019, 12:08 AM
curry is amazing but he isn't kd. it was obvious from the first year that kd was the better player. people have to make up arguments that curry is more important. it's all b.s.

Problem is that when Curry was out this season KD couldnt even get GSW to play.500 ball without Curry.. When Curry is playing and KD is out they dont skip a beat..

People forget that Curry went head to head vs Durant and outplayed him in 2016.. People also forget that it was KD not Westbrook that was turning the ball over and over after OKC got 3-1 lead vs GSW in 2016.. I believe KD avg more turnovers that assists..

Marikina
05-05-2019, 12:09 AM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]This was one of the uglier games I

red1
05-05-2019, 12:13 AM
Problem is that when Curry was out this season KD couldnt even get GSW to play.500 ball without Curry.. When Curry is playing and KD is out they dont skip a beat..

People forget that Curry went head to head vs Durant and outplayed him in 2016.. People also forget that it was KD not Westbrook that was turning the ball over and over after OKC got 3-1 lead vs GSW in 2016.. I believe KD avg more turnovers that assists..
I remember that. it's not really a surprise to me that they play better with curry alone as opposed to kd alone - they have years of chemistry.

the difference between the two is that kd can get his shot on anyone without having to dribble a hundred times like a smaller player would. he gets clean shots too and he's clutch as ****.

NBASTATMAN
05-05-2019, 12:13 AM
CURRY CANT HANDLE THE PHYSICAL NATURE OF THE PLAYOFFS .. He has played deep into the playoffs for 5years now. He doesnt have the body to endure imo.. He choked on a couple of layups tonight.. Cant blame injuries on some pretty good looks at layups.. He just cant handle it when teams get tough imo

warriorfan
05-05-2019, 12:15 AM
I remember that. it's not really a surprise to me that they play better with curry alone as opposed to kd alone - they have years of chemistry.

the difference between the two is that kd can get his shot on anyone without having to dribble a hundred times like a smaller player would. he gets clean shots too and he's clutch as ****.

KD doesn't make things easier for his teammates like Curry does. He's a better individual scorer at times but he has shown time in and time out he cannot lead an offense like Curry can.

NBASTATMAN
05-05-2019, 12:16 AM
I remember that. it's not really a surprise to me that they play better with curry alone as opposed to kd alone - they have years of chemistry.

the difference between the two is that kd can get his shot on anyone without having to dribble a hundred times like a smaller player would. he gets clean shots too and he's clutch as ****.


i agree.. I also believe Curry is not able to play up to his standards when the game gets more physical like it does in the playoffs.. Well at least now after 5 straight years of playing long seasons..

SpaceJam
05-05-2019, 12:17 AM
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Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3

2015 Steph Curry had one of the most clutch performance in NBA history. The only player to score more 4th Quarter Finals points than Steph Curry was Shaquille Oneal, and he didn't even score one point more than Curry while Curry scored 14% more efficiently than Shaquille


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? The major MCL injury


https://i.postimg.cc/MpdHk3K6/Curry-MCLinjury.jpg



Curry had a lack of lateral quickness and ability to change direction because of his MCL injury

Here is a clip of healthy Curry showcasing his excellent lateral quickness and change of direction


These types of plays were routine for Curry before the MCL injury

The time table for return of an MCL sprain is 2 to 4 weeks.

(Keep in mind that healing timetable is for every day activity, nothing more strenuous than walking up one flight of stairs, NOT playing professional basketball)
Stephen Curry returned from the injury after only 2 weeks because the Warriors were struggling against Portland without him.


Stephen Curry re-aggravated his knee injury by coming back too early and then playing 40+ minutes of playoff basketball plus overtime in his record setting performance against Portland.


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's production

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red1
05-05-2019, 12:17 AM
KD doesn't make things easier for his teammates like Curry does. He's a better individual scorer at times but he has shown time in and time out he cannot lead an offense like Curry can.
if you're a real warrior fan then you'll never forget the dagger 3 kd splashed in cleveland in game 3 of 2017.


that alone was bigger than anything curry ever did. kd is just a superior player. 7 feet with a wet jumpshot and great athleticism - that's not even fair.

warriorfan
05-05-2019, 12:20 AM
if you're a real warrior fan then you'll never forget the dagger 3 kd splashed in cleveland in game 3 of 2017.


that alone was bigger than anything curry ever did. kd is just a superior player. 7 feet with a wet jumpshot and great athleticism - that's not even fair.

Why wasn't KD doing that shit and leading teams to top offenses and championships before joining Curry's team?

warriorfan
05-05-2019, 12:21 AM
CURRY CANT HANDLE THE PHYSICAL NATURE OF THE PLAYOFFS .. He has played deep into the playoffs for 5years now. He doesnt have the body to endure imo.. He choked on a couple of layups tonight.. Cant blame injuries on some pretty good looks at layups.. He just cant handle it when teams get tough imo

There you go, hes played a lot of high intensity basketball for 5 years straight now. Deep championship runs, every team in the league gunning for them during the regular season. His health has been pretty good overall during the post season and Finals besides 2016 which was a freak injury where he slipped on some greasy guys sweat and a little banged up this year with a couple of injuries. He has played great in all of the playoffs and Finals during this dynasty's run besides maybe 2016 Finals...and that was after coming back early from that MCL tear. He legit was robbed of FMVP in 2015 and 2018.

red1
05-05-2019, 12:23 AM
Why wasn't KD doing that shit and leading teams to top offenses and championships before joining Curry's team?
you're not a real warriors fan. warriors wouldn't be what they are without the greatness of kd. don't get confused by the 2015 championship where they played a depleted cavs team and it was still a series. if kyrie suited up the rest of the series the cavs would've won.


with kd the warriors are a legitimate 3-peating dynasty. kd is what puts the team over the edge and kd is the team's best player. just be grateful that you have him.

warriorfan
05-05-2019, 12:47 AM
you're not a real warriors fan. warriors wouldn't be what they are without the greatness of kd. don't get confused by the 2015 championship where they played a depleted cavs team and it was still a series. if kyrie suited up the rest of the series the cavs would've won.


with kd the warriors are a legitimate 3-peating dynasty. kd is what puts the team over the edge and kd is the team's best player. just be grateful that you have him.
low iq

red1
05-05-2019, 12:51 AM
low iq
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3ball
05-05-2019, 12:53 AM
:roll:

RRR3
05-05-2019, 12:56 AM
:roll:
Not sure what you’re laughing at.


He’s still more impactul than MJ.

SpaceJam2
05-05-2019, 01:00 AM
[QUOTE=RRR3]Not sure what you

3ball
05-05-2019, 01:07 AM
[QUOTE=RRR3]

[I][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="4"]Not sure what you

Phoenix
05-05-2019, 09:01 AM
We're conflating best with most important. In this particular instance there is a difference. The Warriors system is based around Steph's skillset and this is why the team functions optimally when he's on the floor even if KD isn't. When KD is on the floor( and no Steph) there's a lot more iso, less ball movement, more standing around and waiting, in essence more predictable. Dray is reduced as a 2nd playmaker because Steph isn't there playing off the ball, Klay doesn't get the same looks So, the 'team' doesn't play as well collectively( and at least in the regular season, this bears out in the W/L record since 2017 pretty clearly). This is why Steph is the more 'important' player to the team.

KD is the 'better' player in a vacuum. Better defensively, and while Steph is a better shooter overall, KD isn't far behind with the advantage of being 7 feet so when the offense breaks down, or Steph is out/injured he can operate as the 'we have no defense for this guy' option keeping things afloat. He's kind of like the world's greatest insurance policy. The Warriors don't need him to be great in general but they do need him to be all-time elite in 2019. I don't think this was the case in 2016 but this isn't the same team sans KD. Everyone's a little older, guys like Iguodola and Livingston are on the back nine, David West isn't there, Mo Speights( remember him?), Barbosa etc. High energy guys. As much as this team has had all-time level talent, they were also the sum of their parts right down to the 10th man which is what made them special to begin with.

Bronbron23
05-05-2019, 09:24 AM
Curry is the most important Warrior and their best player by far and it's not close.

Most of you only look at a boxscore and view the game on a surface level.

If you watch this game... you see Curry struggling mightily, and you see Durant popping off from all over the court.

And this is true... but what you don't see that is actually happening is that the entire Warriors team is standing around watching Durant and it takes the entire team out of synch and essentially destroys their identity and turns them into a slightly upgraded version of OKC from like 3 years ago.

When Curry is primarily handling the ball and everyone is moving and running around screens and the ball is flowing, the Warriors blow teams out.

When Durant is primarily handling the ball, everyone is standing around watching him be great... until he stops being great, and it drags the team down.

Kevin Durant is undeniably an amazing basketball player, but you can't compare his offensive impact to Steph Curry's when looking at a large pool of data. It's legitimately not even close.
They're doing that because that's there best option to score. What your missing is teams have adjusted to how the warriors play. They switch everything now which takes away from Klay and Steph's effectiveness because they rely heavily on screens to get open. In Steph's case they sometimes use screens as a way to get him switched on to a bigger slower defender. Teams have adjusted to this also. They've built teams that have more agile bigs that can stay with Steph. If they can't stay with Steph they run him off the three point line and force him to take a 2 where's he less effective.

Most Steph and warrior Stan's are on denial about this fact. It will be much more clear when kd is gone after this year and the warriors are struggling to get out of the first round next year.

ArbitraryWater
05-05-2019, 09:44 AM
I remember that. it's not really a surprise to me that they play better with curry alone as opposed to kd alone - they have years of chemistry.

This is KD's 3rd year, that chemistry excuse isn't flying anymore.

BS.

red1
05-05-2019, 12:50 PM
This is KD's 3rd year, that chemistry excuse isn't flying anymore.

BS.
and how many years have klay curry and draymond played together? :facepalm :oldlol:


are you saying that you think curry is a better player than durant?

game3524
05-05-2019, 01:03 PM
They're doing that because that's there best option to score. What your missing is teams have adjusted to how the warriors play. They switch everything now which takes away from Klay and Steph's effectiveness because they rely heavily on screens to get open. In Steph's case they sometimes use screens as a way to get him switched on to a bigger slower defender. Teams have adjusted to this also. They've built teams that have more agile bigs that can stay with Steph. If they can't stay with Steph they run him off the three point line and force him to take a 2 where's he less effective.

Most Steph and warrior Stan's are on denial about this fact. It will be much more clear when kd is gone after this year and the warriors are struggling to get out of the first round next year.

Bingo.

Neither Steph or Klay are great isolations scorers. The 2016 Finals was a wake up moment for the Warriors FO. They needed someone who can get a bucket regardless of the defense.

Some GS fans are in for a rude awakening if they think they will revert back to 2015 and 2016. The league has changed and teams have caught up to their system.

3ball
05-05-2019, 04:00 PM
We're conflating best with most important. In this particular instance there is a difference. The Warriors system is based around Steph's skillset and this is why the team functions optimally when he's on the floor even if KD isn't. When KD is on the floor( and no Steph) there's a lot more iso, less ball movement, more standing around and waiting, in essence more predictable. Dray is reduced as a 2nd playmaker because Steph isn't there playing off the ball, Klay doesn't get the same looks So, the 'team' doesn't play as well collectively( and at least in the regular season, this bears out in the W/L record since 2017 pretty clearly). This is why Steph is the more 'important' player to the team.

KD is the 'better' player in a vacuum. Better defensively, and while Steph is a better shooter overall, KD isn't far behind with the advantage of being 7 feet so when the offense breaks down, or Steph is out/injured he can operate as the 'we have no defense for this guy' option keeping things afloat. He's kind of like the world's greatest insurance policy. The Warriors don't need him to be great in general but they do need him to be all-time elite in 2019. I don't think this was the case in 2016 but this isn't the same team sans KD. Everyone's a little older, guys like Iguodola and Livingston are on the back nine, David West isn't there, Mo Speights( remember him?), Barbosa etc. High energy guys. As much as this team has had all-time level talent, they were also the sum of their parts right down to the 10th man which is what made them special to begin with.
Based on this ^^^^

Curry > Durant

Teams based around curry > teams based around durant

But this isn't true because curry's impact is overblown

Firstly, the system is based around curry AND klay.. without the threat of klay's goat shooting, the system falters similarly to when curry is out

Secondly, the Warriors haven't won as much with Durant when curry is out because durant had only been there for a few years, while curry's been there since the system was first implemented.. if curry retired tomorrow, the Warriors would rebuild their system around durant and probably be more effective.. they wouldn't win 73 because everyone has caught up to the strategic edge the Warriors had, but they'd certainly win the 16' Finals and be a better team against the best comp

Phoenix
05-05-2019, 06:07 PM
Based on this ^^^^

Curry > Durant

Teams based around curry > teams based around durant

But this isn't true because curry's impact is overblown

Firstly, the system is based around curry AND klay.. without the threat of klay's goat shooting, the system falters similarly to when curry is out

Secondly, the Warriors haven't won as much with Durant when curry is out because durant had only been there for a few years, while curry's been there since the system was first implemented.. if curry retired tomorrow, the Warriors would rebuild their system around durant and probably be more effective.. they wouldn't win 73 because everyone has caught up to the strategic edge the Warriors had, but they'd certainly win the 16' Finals and be a better team against the best comp

If you were to pick two random teams of equal talent and makeup with Durant on one side and Curry on the other, I would take Durant's side. That's why I specified the Warriors system built around Curry( and Klay if you want to include him) because my comment wasn't intended to mean that Curry makes *any* kind of team better than Durant would. If the Dubs were built around KD's talents from scratch then that's an entirely different beast.

hold this L
05-05-2019, 06:33 PM
The answer is yes, but it sure as hell isn't the case so far in the playoffs. Curry is playing way below his level.

Stephonit
05-05-2019, 10:37 PM
Yes Curry is the best and most important player on the Warriors. He hasn't played well in these playoffs.

The Warriors go as Curry goes. KD went off for 40+ and what was the result? The Warriors still lost. Of course they are playing the Rockets and the whole team needs to be on point but this is a recurring pattern. I think I said the same thing in the Clippers series and we can go back to the 2016 Christmas game against the Cavaliers as one of the earlier notable examples.

The Warriors are courting trouble with this KD-centric offense. It is inferior. Maybe Curry's injuries have something to do with it or the Rockets have forced it but if the reason Curry is not in rhythm is because Kerr was busy appeasing KD, then it's a major coaching failure. It's a strategy that can backfire spectacularly and predictably so.

nashwade
05-05-2019, 11:18 PM
Curry's skill set is heavily (not solely) dependent on him making those 3's and jumpers, on an off night, he's rather useless

Bronbron23
05-05-2019, 11:24 PM
Yes Curry is the best and most important player on the Warriors. He hasn't played well in these playoffs.

The Warriors go as Curry goes. KD went off for 40+ and what was the result? The Warriors still lost. Of course they are playing the Rockets and the whole team needs to be on point but this is a recurring pattern. I think I said the same thing in the Clippers series and we can go back to the 2016 Christmas game against the Cavaliers as one of the earlier notable examples.

The Warriors are courting trouble with this KD-centric offense. It is inferior. Maybe Curry's injuries have something to do with it or the Rockets have forced it but if the reason Curry is not in rhythm is because Kerr was busy appeasing KD, then it's a major coaching failure. It's a strategy that can backfire spectacularly and predictably so.
It has nothing to do with coaching. I've been saying this all year. The league has caught up to the way the warriors play. It's not just Steph thats struggling it's Klay too. Teams switch everything instead of trying to fight through screen. This has been huge in limiting both guys because both rely heavily on screens to get open to hit shots.

It has nothing to do with kd. He's gone after this year and you'll see how much the warriors and curry will struggle without him. They won't get out of the second round

305Baller
05-05-2019, 11:31 PM
If they dont keep Durant they are done.

Stephonit
05-05-2019, 11:43 PM
It has nothing to do with coaching. I've been saying this all year. The league has caught up to the way the warriors play. It's not just Steph thats struggling it's Klay too. Teams switch everything instead of trying to fight through screen. This has been huge in limiting both guys because both rely heavily on screens to get open to hit shots.

It has nothing to do with kd. He's gone after this year and you'll see how much the warriors and curry will struggle without him. They won't get out of the second round

Teams started switching even in 2016. Other teams have gotten better but it still hasn't stopped the Warriors.

The Warriors will be worse without KD. There's no denying that. But there's a possibility the Warriors don't make it out of the second round this season so if they don't make it out of the second round next season just how big a drop-off are we talking about?

Bronbron23
05-05-2019, 11:52 PM
Teams started switching even in 2016. Other teams have gotten better but it still hasn't stopped the Warriors.

The Warriors will be worse without KD. There's no denying that. But there's a possibility the Warriors don't make it out of the second round this season so if they don't make it out of the second round next season just how big a drop-off are we talking about?
I initially thought the rockets would beat the warriors but after watching the first few games i don't think so anymore. Chris Paul is a shell of himself. He's looks gun shy. He was way better last year. There's a very good chance the warriors win it all this year. Without kd there's absolutely no chance they win unless they pick up kawhi or something. There's no way that this warriors team minus kd win next year.

Stephonit
05-06-2019, 12:02 AM
I initially thought the rockets would beat the warriors but after watching the first few games i don't think so anymore. Chris Paul is a shell of himself. He's looks gun shy. He was way better last year. There's a very good chance the warriors win it all this year. Without kd there's absolutely no chance they win unless they pick up kawhi or something. There's no way that this warriors team minus kd win next year.

Aging, wear and tear, and lack of depth are what will determine the Warriors' performance next year without KD compared to what we've seen from them before. If they can still play like they did in the closing games of the 2017 regular season when KD was injured, the Warriors are still championship favorites. For comparison the Portland Trail Blazers are tied with the Nuggets in the Western Conference second round and have a shot at the conference finals. The Warriors even without KD I think are a far better team.

AlternativeAcc.
05-06-2019, 09:58 AM
Hes literally not even the 4th most important.

Smart basketball fans know this, dumb ones dont get it and never will

Im so nba'd out
05-09-2019, 01:00 AM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way


https://media.giphy.com/media/dzVBLI5I46c2l9ha3Y/giphy.gif

Im so nba'd out
05-10-2019, 11:43 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/giphy.gif

Boogie goes down AD takes the fk over without someone sabotaging the team with passive-aggressive jog backs so the other team scores when they dont get the ball


Durant goes down Curry steps up and takes the fk over without someone sabotaging the team with passive-aggressive jog backs so the other team scores when they dont get the ball



and i dont even like AD but the truth is the truth

sammichoffate
05-10-2019, 11:46 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/dzVBLI5I46c2l9ha3Y/giphy.gif:roll: :roll: :roll:

bison
05-11-2019, 12:16 AM
Yes I believe this.

Im so nba'd out
05-21-2019, 12:01 AM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way



https://media1.tenor.com/images/e3f723375b65faae8d84aa115a05d5f8/tenor.gif

And1AllDay
05-21-2019, 12:19 AM
We really out here celebrating a Finals appearance :rolleyes:

Bron made 8 straight dont forget

warriorfan
05-21-2019, 12:22 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/dzVBLI5I46c2l9ha3Y/giphy.gif

Most high iq post I’ve seen in a minute. Exactly what I’ve been saying, everyone has to walk on eggshells around Kd so he won’t go into full cancer meltdown mode. Kds lame ass mood brings down the team. They don’t have that chip on their shoulder ready to bury mother f uckers attitude when ED is out there complaining and crying.

Bawkish
05-21-2019, 01:29 AM
We really out here celebrating a Finals appearance :rolleyes:

Bron made 8 straight dont forget

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Celtics 1825
05-21-2019, 01:46 AM
We really out here celebrating a Finals appearance :rolleyes:

Bron made 8 straight dont forget
Don't you Bron stans celebrate finals appearances all the time?

Jasper
05-21-2019, 09:55 AM
He is....He defers so Durant wont pout...Its better for the team + this system of setting screens and flaring out is not his game....He's doing it cause that's Durants game (pick and slip fade)


Its the same way AD defered to Boogie, even though AD was the better player....It's for the good of the team.Some people pout and are passive agressive (durant,boogie). They will stop tryin' if they dont get their way
precious from a hero baller

Stanley Kobrick
05-01-2021, 07:18 PM
interesting how things have progressed in the 2 years since this threads creation. durant leaves and warriors drop to 15th seed and 10th seed the following season. one could strongly argue now durant was the most important. but i still believe it was klay

Stanley Kobrick
05-01-2021, 08:55 PM
If they dont keep Durant they are done.
high IQ post

Axe
05-01-2021, 11:04 PM
Putting mvp numbers while carrying his team to a losing record at the same time, there's nothing else to blame but management for not providing decent help while their second option still remain missing. Although what gohan said earlier seems to be true; it is akin to 06 iverson, except curry stains are so eager to point out that the warriors will still be bound to play in the losers bracket later on despite what their current paltry record would suggest.

ImKobe
05-02-2021, 12:10 AM
interesting how things have progressed in the 2 years since this threads creation. durant leaves and warriors drop to 15th seed and 10th seed the following season. one could strongly argue now durant was the most important. but i still believe it was klay

2017-2019 RS
Warriors without KD: 28 - 11 (59-win pace)
Warriors without Steph: 24 - 23 (42-win pace)

Stanley Kobrick
05-02-2021, 12:48 AM
2017-2019 RS
Warriors without KD: 28 - 11 (59-win pace)
Warriors without Steph: 24 - 23 (42-win pace)
2017-2019 Playoffs
Warriors without KD: 2-4 to Raps 2019
Warriors without Steph: 6-2 (2016) 5-1 (2018)

SouBeachTalents
05-02-2021, 01:06 AM
2017-2019 Playoffs
Warriors without KD: 2-4 to Raps 2019
Warriors without Steph: 6-2 (2016) 5-1 (2018)
What's the point in being so disingenuous :lol This shit happened just two years ago, do you really think nobody's going to remember the WCF they swept with Durant not playing, or the two wins they had against Houston? And Klay missed a pretty significant portion of those Finals too, it really looked like the Finals were headed to 7 before Klay got injured

Stanley Kobrick
05-02-2021, 02:28 AM
What's the point in being so disingenuous :lol This shit happened just two years ago, do you really think nobody's going to remember the WCF they swept with Durant not playing, or the two wins they had against Houston? And Klay missed a pretty significant portion of those Finals too, it really looked like the Finals were headed to 7 before Klay got injured
i didn't feel it was disingenuous, all i did was change one word from the user i quoted: *rs - to - *playoffs. but you said it yourself, GSW only looked hopeful vs Lowry until the very moment Klay Thompson went down. :confusedshrug: because it was Klay in game 6 who single handily kept Warriors alive with 26 pts Gm 5 and 30 pts Gm 6 right before injury.

Axe
05-02-2021, 03:48 AM
i didn't feel it was disingenuous, all i did was change one word from the user i quoted: *rs - to - *playoffs. but you said it yourself, GSW only looked hopeful vs Lowry until the very moment Klay Thompson went down. :confusedshrug: because it was Klay in game 6 who single handily kept Warriors alive with 26 pts Gm 5 and 30 pts Gm 6 right before injury.
Even in game 5 of 2019, which was durant's most recent finals game, got the warriors leading by double figures until he went down completely in second quarter. That must've struck the warriors team for the remainder of the game but despite the increasing woes, late in the fourth a raptors comeback seemed inevitable until a defiant klay took charge and down by six, initiated a clutch three to cut their deficit to three. Several seconds later, only by then curry found himself nailing the same shot to tie the game when he could have done so earlier but that wasn't enough for them to take a lead. After the raptors seemed to ran out of luck, klay had to shoot another clutch three again, to seal the warriors scoring and to put them up for good in the closing seconds of the game. They triumphed but just barely, thanks to klay's and kd's heroic efforts to save their day. :ohwell:

ImKobe
05-02-2021, 11:44 AM
2017-2019 Playoffs
Warriors without KD: 2-4 to Raps 2019
Warriors without Steph: 6-2 (2016) 5-1 (2018)

Horrible troll job tbh

Jasper
05-02-2021, 07:37 PM
I was thinking about him ///
I think it is possible in 3-4 years that he is traded.