SVG: We let Lebron play 1on1 in the 09 series, we were fine giving him points/stats

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=26649078

damn.......just said it on Lowe post.

They didnt want to double him or blitz in any pickandroll b/c he was a more dangerous passer and knew he couldnt impact the game with his scoring as much as the pass to beat them.

Bran stans always prop up the boxscore numbers from this series too:oldlol: :oldlol: SVG basically said "let the babyboi score":lol they knew Brans terrible defense and lack of a varied scoring game wouldnt be enough.

Damn....also said they messed up the defense on that last backdoor cut play for Brans gamewinner and they shouldve swept :oldlol: as MASSIVE underdogs without homecourt:eek:

[SouBeachTalents]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

[SpaceJam2]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

https://i.postimg.cc/KYnny3n6/tenor.gif

[ImKobe]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

And?

Lebron could be his favorite player, but the fact remains that this is how most teams (Spurs, Warriors) play him.

His stats become less impressive once you realize that he's being left wide open for most of the game.

[ArbitraryWater]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

:oldlol:

[DaHeezy]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

:lol
OPs thread backfires. Just like his sense of loyalty

[34-24 Footwork]

Greg Pop said that Lebron is a great player after putting Boris Diaw on him and telling him to sag off 6 feet.

Still don't understand how you disrespect someone like that on national television.

[CAstill]

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=26649078

damn.......just said it on Lowe post.

They didnt want to double him or blitz in any pickandroll b/c he was a more dangerous passer and knew he couldnt impact the game with his scoring as much as the pass to beat them.

Bran stans always prop up the boxscore numbers from this series too:oldlol: :oldlol: SVG basically said "let the babyboi score":lol they knew Brans terrible defense and lack of a varied scoring game wouldnt be enough.

Damn....also said they messed up the defense on that last backdoor cut play for Brans gamewinner and they shouldve swept :oldlol: as MASSIVE underdogs without homecourt:eek:


Same exact thing Pistons did with Dwade. Bunch of inflated stats.

[Gus Hemmingway]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0
DAMN :oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

The Celtics did the same. No news to anyone.

[Jameerthefear]

SVG had the same problem Doc Rivers did. Both were terrible GMs. I guess SVG's team hated him tho

[game3524]

Greg Pop said that Lebron is a great player after putting Boris Diaw on him and telling him to sag off 6 feet.

Still don't understand how you disrespect someone like that on national television.

That still is a

[FKAri]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0
Damn. I hadn't even heard of this. Pretty shocked tbh.

[bigkingsfan]

And?

Lebron could be his favorite player, but the fact remains that this is how most teams (Spurs, Warriors) play him.

His stats become less impressive once you realize that he's being left wide open for most of the game.
Jay Williams just said he beat MJ one on one in the same Video :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

https://i.postimg.cc/KYnny3n6/tenor.gif

[sportjames23]

[QUOTE=game3524]That still is a

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=sportjames23]That was the most disrespect I

[3ball]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0
He said Oscar is better than Jordan too in that clip, thus ruining his credibility

He was obviously going for shock value to put himself back on the map (wants to coach again)

Otoh, his comments about exploiting lebron are observable fact and very recent.. he probably doesn't regard lebron as highly after last year's record defeat and this year's missed playoffs
.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

SVG is a smart dude.

Knows that calling LeBron "arguably the GOAT" and "letting him get his as I beat him in a series" bolsters his rep.

[red1]

Greg Pop said that Lebron is a great player after putting Boris Diaw on him and telling him to sag off 6 feet.

Still don't understand how you disrespect someone like that on national television.
it's called picking your poison right? lebron in his athletic prime was the GOAT at driving and stiff-arming to the rim plus he was an amazing passer with excellent court-vision.

after game 7 of the 2013 finals pop said he had a good strategy but that's the greatness of a superstar you can't take everything away.


lebron did what kobe and most players never could - splashed daggers in a game 7 of the finals

https://media.giphy.com/media/opiuebY9wpSaA/giphy.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818159/lebronclutch.gif



buh buh buh sagged off and wuz open why can't my favorite player shoot better than 6-24

[TheCorporation]

it's called picking your poison right? lebron in his athletic prime was the GOAT at driving and stiff-arming to the rim plus he was an amazing passer with excellent court-vision.

after game 7 of the 2013 finals pop said he had a good strategy but that's the greatness of a superstar you can't take everything away.


lebron did what kobe and most players never could - splashed daggers in a game 7 of the finals

https://media.giphy.com/media/opiuebY9wpSaA/giphy.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818159/lebronclutch.gif



buh buh buh sagged off and wuz open why can't my favorite player shoot better than 6-24

Precisely.

Let us compare Game 7 2013 LeBron and Game 7 2010 Kobe

PLEASE someone post it for a good laugh

[tpols]

All the best teams never doubled LeBron...

Celtics
Spurs
Mavs
Warriors
Now the magic...


LeBron is an in the flow scorer... Very risk adverse. He's not takeover. Coaches know this...

All you really need is a great offensive showing to outlast him. That s why the east was so kind to his teams...Paul George and millsap he can outpace with layups all the west talent not so much

[3ball]

All the best teams never doubled LeBron...

Celtics
Spurs
Mavs
Warriors
Now the magic...


LeBron is an in the flow scorer... Very risk adverse. He's not takeover. Coaches know this...

All you really need is a great offensive showing to outlast him. That s why the east was so kind to his teams...Paul George and millsap he can outpace with layups all the west talent not so much


An indictment on his game compared to other greats.. one of the many clear-cut areas of inferiority

He loses shootouts where both teams get above their regular season offense because lebron-ball and lebron's offense is easily out-produced by the better teams.. lebron-ball does best in defensive slugfests where the offense is anemic

[TheCorporation]

All the best teams never doubled LeBron...

Celtics
Spurs
Mavs
Warriors
Now the magic...


LeBron is an in the flow scorer... Very risk adverse. He's not takeover. Coaches know this...

All you really need is a great offensive showing to outlast him. That s why the east was so kind to his teams...Paul George and millsap he can outpace with layups all the west talent not so much

I wonder if teams have a harder time double-teaming a player with GOAT level IQ and play making and passing...

[red1]

armchair analysts who can't ball doing their thing.


keep up the great work 3ball you've changed many minds here over the years. you're right - lebron isn't an all-time great and mj isn't a degenerate sociopath. :roll:

[TheCorporation]

armchair analysts who can't ball doing their thing.


keep up the great work 3ball you've changed many minds here over the years. you're right - lebron isn't an all-time great and mj isn't a degenerate sociopath. :roll:

:lol :lol :lol

[tpols]

I wonder if teams have a harder time double-teaming a player with GOAT level IQ and play making and passing...


Yea...so they don't and dare LeBron to bury them...which he can't do.

Then he ends up getting buried.

[warriorfan]

Let us remeber that the Magic were missing their All Star point guard Jameer Nelson and were a massive underdog going into the series. This was a legitimate choke.

[SomeBlackDude]

from the jordan rules to the empty stats rules.

also, fat van gundy needs to site his sauces.

pop pioneered this strategy in the '07 finals when he sicced the 37 year old bowen on young lefinalslosses.

svg, kerr, doc, etc all just copied it.

[3ball]

I wonder if teams have a harder time double-teaming a player with GOAT level IQ and play making and passing...
Lebron is a dumb player for thinking his ball-domination is an adequate substitute for ball movement, 3/9

True genius is having the all-round skill to adjust to teammates and play a style that allows great teamwork and winning on the championship level

[3ball]

from the jordan rules to the empty stats rules.

also, fat van gundy needs to site his sauces.

pop pioneered this strategy in the '07 finals when he sicced the 37 year old bowen on young lefinalslosses.

svg, kerr, doc, etc all just copied it

.





Let us remeber that the Magic were missing their All Star point guard Jameer Nelson and were a massive underdog going into the series. This was a legitimate choke


..

[ballinhun8]

Isn't this common knowledge??


Pop did the same thing and LeBron had Ray Allen in one year that helped him a ton.

[red1]

excellent. we have a lot of the haters in this thread - perfect time to share one of my favorite images. we already know lebron's dominance on the individual level let's reflect on his career success now as well:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClXdOhhWkAA3H_f.jpg

[red1]

lebron "finals MVP" james :eek:

[3ball]

excellent. we have a lot of the haters in this thread - perfect time to share one of my favorite images. we already know lebron's dominance on the individual level let's reflect on his career success now as well:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClXdOhhWkAA3H_f.jpg
Wow, so lebron is nowhere near goat

Barely halfway

and not even that considering he had to team-up with 2 other stars to make the Finals, while everyone else did it organically (not skipping the team and teammate development stages like lebron)

[superduper]

All the best teams never doubled LeBron...

Celtics
Spurs
Mavs
Warriors
Now the magic...


LeBron is an in the flow scorer... Very risk adverse. He's not takeover. Coaches know this...

All you really need is a great offensive showing to outlast him. That s why the east was so kind to his teams...Paul George and millsap he can outpace with layups all the west talent not so much

Extremely high IQ post.

hUr DuRrRr GameScore and VORP doE!! :mad:

[red1]

Wow, so lebron is nowhere near goat

Barely halfway

and not even that considering he had to team-up with 2 other stars to make the Finals, while everyone else did it organically (not skipping the team and teammate development stages like lebron)
what you don't understand and will never understand 3ball is that lebron has given his fans a ton of epic moments. choked in 2011 came back on a mission in 2012. had an epic game 7 of the finals the next year. spearheaded the only 3-1 comeback in the playoffs doing that in the finals winning cleveland their first chip, leading two different teams to the promised land.


you can hate all you want and spin every narrative that you want - lebron is the GOAT of the modern era and the 2nd GOAT overall.


suck it bitch. :oldlol:

[egokiller]

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=26649078

damn.......just said it on Lowe post.

They didnt want to double him or blitz in any pickandroll b/c he was a more dangerous passer and knew he couldnt impact the game with his scoring as much as the pass to beat them.

Bran stans always prop up the boxscore numbers from this series too:oldlol: :oldlol: SVG basically said "let the babyboi score":lol they knew Brans terrible defense and lack of a varied scoring game wouldnt be enough.

Damn....also said they messed up the defense on that last backdoor cut play for Brans gamewinner and they shouldve swept :oldlol: as MASSIVE underdogs without homecourt:eek:

Agreed. The plan to stop lebron was figured out way back in 2011. The opposing team coaches never suspected that guys like Kyrie and Ray Allen would tell lebron to go fvck himself and end the game on their own. Had they known that he

[34-24 Footwork]

If you hoop and walked into ANY basketball gym and Boris Diaw looked at you And thought you'd be a decent matchup for him, EVEN you would feel disrespected.

Then he gets on the court and plays 6 feet off of you :eek: :eek:

[red1]

If you hoop and walked into ANY basketball gym and Boris Diaw looked at you And thought you'd be a decent matchup for him, EVEN you would feel disrespected.

Then he gets on the court and plays 6 feet off of you :eek: :eek:
and then this happened :eek:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5122Y0m7OZL.jpg

[3ball]

what you don't understand and will never understand 3ball is that lebron has given his fans a ton of epic moments. choked in 2011 came back on a mission in 2012. had an epic game 7 of the finals the next year. spearheaded the only 3-1 comeback in the playoffs doing that in the finals winning cleveland their first chip, leading two different teams to the promised land.


you can hate all you want and spin every narrative that you want - lebron is the GOAT of the modern era and the 2nd GOAT overall.


suck it bitch. :oldlol:
Nah, you don't get it

Lebron should've done much more than he did - you seem satisfied with a 2nd rate resume compared to the best and compared to what he SHOULD'VE done

For example - how does the greatest player of all time team up with the next best player in the league and lose in 11'? And then be an underdog in 12'? The Heat lost or were underdog for 3 of 4 years..

^^^ That's impossible if lebron is goat... So lebron simply isn't

Face it - our jaws all dropped to the floor when we heard lebron and Wade had teamed up.. Lebron was supposed to win "not 6, not 7" rings.. instead he went 2/4 with goat choke and record defeat. That's pure shit compared to what MJ would've done with 3 HOF like Wade/Bosh/Allen

And ditto for his recent Cavs teams... How was he a massive dog every year with prime Kyrie and Love?? Why didn't he flirt with 70 wins and favorite status like Kawhi and Curry did?

Again, you seem content with a 2nd rate resume when instead you should be mad that lebron is mostly a loser despite elite tesmmates

[red1]

Nah, you don't get it

Lebron should've done much more than he did - you seem satisfied with a 2nd rate resume compared to the best

For example - how does the greatest player of all time team up with the next best player in the league and lose in 11'? And then be an underdog in 12? The Heat lost or were underdogd for 3 of 4 years..

^^^ That's impossible if lebron is goat... So lebron simply isn't goat...

Face it - our jaws all dropped to the floor when we heard lebron and Wade had teamed up.. Lebron was supposed to win "not 6, not 7" rings.. instead he went 2/4 with goat choke and record defeat. That's pure shit compared to what MJ would've done with 3 HOF like Wade/Bosh/Allen

And ditto for his recent Cavs teams... How was he a massive dog every year with prime Kyrie and Love?? Why didn't he flirt with 70 wins and favorite status like Kawhi and Curry did?

Again, you seem content with a 2nd rate resume when instead you should be mad that lebron is mostly a loser despite elite tesmmates
you're arguing with yourself AGAIN. :roll:


is there a point to any of this? it's hard for me to take a stan like you serious when you think pippen and grant or pippen and rodman is equal to mo williams and varejao. not even mentioning phil jackson vs mike brown :roll:


you argued that lebron's original supporting cast with cleveland was equal to what MJ had with his championship bulls - are you retarded? :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

Bunch of guys that have never touched a ball ITT.

[DaHeezy]

:facepalm Playing off him because he's a dangerous passer is not a disrespect. It's actually a compliment. If you can't see that

Jesus, sometimes the hate is so amazing I wonder how people cope IRL.

[tpols]

you're arguing with yourself AGAIN. :roll:


is there a point to any of this? it's hard for me to take a stan like you serious when you think pippen and grant or pippen and rodman is equal to mo williams and varejao. not even mentioning phil jackson vs mike brown :roll:


you argued that lebron's original supporting cast with cleveland was equal to what MJ had with his championship bulls - are you retarded? :oldlol:


You're deflecting bro...

Fact is lebrons super teams shouldve never been 50 something win underdogs to ancient spurs and young warrior teams... But they were. And massively underachieved on their initial hype.

[3ball]

is there a point to any of this?


That's my point - u think a 2nd rate resume of underachievement is goat

For example - how does the greatest player of all time team up with the next best player in the league and lose in 11'? And then be an underdog in 12'? The Heat lost or were underdog for 3 of 4 years..

^^^ That's impossible if lebron is goat... So lebron simply isn't

Face it - our jaws all dropped to the floor when we heard lebron and Wade had teamed up.. Lebron was supposed to win "not 6, not 7" rings.. instead he went 2/4 with goat choke and record defeat. That's pure shit compared to what MJ would've done with 3 HOF like Wade/Bosh/Allen

And ditto for his recent Cavs teams... How was he a massive dog every year with prime Kyrie and Love?? Why didn't he flirt with 70 wins and favorite status like Kawhi and Curry did?

Again, you seem content with a 2nd rate resume when instead you should be mad that lebron is mostly a loser despite elite teammates





you argued that lebron's original supporting cast with cleveland was equal to what MJ had with his championship bulls - are you retarded? :oldlol:


No I didn't - I said mj's 85-89' casts were weaker than anything lebron ever had, including his 04/05 casts (lebron had the East all-star center in 05' and a 14/10 PF, plus numerous other pieces)

And I said his 10' cast is equal or better than mj's 91-93 casts and also 97' and 98 (when rodman wasn't starting and averaging 4/8 for the entire playoffs)
.

[Keno]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

end thread. :oldlol:

[red1]

You're deflecting bro...

Fact is lebrons super teams shouldve never been 50 something win underdogs to ancient spurs and young warrior teams... But they were. And massively underachieved on their initial hype.
False. I've already annihilated all of these arguments at one point or another. It doesn't even take much either.

Wade and james were redundant and that team didn't have a center. It doesn't matter how good your perimeter play is when you get crushed on the boards every single game. Wade and james are so great that they still won two together.

Lebron and kyrie beat the 2016 warriors and they would've beat the 2015 warriors as well if kyrie was able to stick it out past game 1 which they dropped. Still went 6 games with a 7 man rotation and every starter absolutely gassed by the end of every game while the warriors were subbing in fresh player after fresh player.

[DaHeezy]

end thread. :oldlol:

It should have. But like all Lebron James related threads in comes the Jordaneers with their goalpost moving tactics to try and diminish Lebron while still trying to boost Jordan.

[stalkerforlife]

https://media.giphy.com/media/oyFyFiXz0hrnG/giphy.gif

[3ball]

False. I've already annihilated all of these arguments at one point or another. It doesn't even take much either.

Wade and james were redundant and that team didn't have a center. It doesn't matter how good your perimeter play is when you get crushed on the boards every single game. Wade and james are so great that they still won two together.

Lebron and kyrie beat the 2016 warriors and they would've beat the 2015 warriors as well if kyrie was able to stick it out past game 1 which they dropped. Still went 6 games with a 7 man rotation and every starter absolutely gassed by the end of every game while the warriors were subbing in fresh player after fresh player.
Lebron's skill restriction to primary ball-handler isn't an excuse dude.. it's a weakness

Whose fault is it that Lebron's skill is limited to primary ball-handler and he can't play off-ball or catch-and-shoot to mesh with other player types and have a better team?

The redundancy of Wade/lebron proves a SKILL DEFICIT (no off-ball or catch-and-shoot), which hurts lebron, not helps him

[red1]

That's my point - ur think a 2nd rate resume of underachievement is goat

For example - how does the greatest player of all time team up with the next best player in the league and lose in 11'? And then be an underdog in 12'? The Heat lost or were underdog for 3 of 4 years..

^^^ That's impossible if lebron is goat... So lebron simply isn't

Face it - our jaws all dropped to the floor when we heard lebron and Wade had teamed up.. Lebron was supposed to win "not 6, not 7" rings.. instead he went 2/4 with goat choke and record defeat. That's pure shit compared to what MJ would've done with 3 HOF like Wade/Bosh/Allen

And ditto for his recent Cavs teams... How was he a massive dog every year with prime Kyrie and Love?? Why didn't he flirt with 70 wins and favorite status like Kawhi and Curry did?

Again, you seem content with a 2nd rate resume when instead you should be mad that lebron is mostly a loser despite elite teammates



No I didn't - I said mj's 85-89' casts were weaker than anything lebron ever had, including his 04/05 casts (lebron had the East all-star center in 05' and a 14/10 PF, plus numerous other pieces)

And I said his 10' cast is equal or better than mj's 91-93 casts and also 97' and 98 (when rodman wasn't starting and averaging 4/8 for the entire playoffs)
Don't ****ng lie. You weren't trolling either and I wasted enough time trying to reason with you when I thought you were intelligent and all about the facts which is the impression you gave me.

I'll always lord that over you because it shows how much of an idiotic fanboy and irrational dumbass of a human being you are.

You think michael jordan and delonte west and varejao and z and mike brown are equal to the championship bulls? Good ****ing lord.


After watching what dwight did to old z and how 6'9 rashard and 6'10 hedo shot over the 6'3 delonte you STILL think that team is equal to the championship bulls?


I would love to see what kobe gasol and odom would do jordan playing with mo williams as his second option and varejao delonte and old z as the rest of the starters- it would be an absolute rape. Kobe would stick daggers in jordan's mouth while gasol cleaned the floor with old-z.


"Buh buh buh that team was built around james." Those players ain't shit - James carried them to 66-wins because he was young and could go 110% every night at the age of 24. And they ultimately fizzled out in the playoffs because again - mo williams and em just aren't that good.

[stalkerforlife]

Don't ****ing lie. You weren't trolling either and I wasted enough time to reason with you when I thought you were intelligent and all about the facts which is the impression you gave me.

I'll always lord that over you because it shows how much of an idiotic fanboy and irrational dumbass of a human being you are.

You think michael jordan and delonte west and varejao and z and mike brown are equal to the championship bulls? Good ****ing lord.


After watching what dwight did to old z and how 6'9 rashard and 6'10 hedo shot over the 6'3 delonte you STILL think that team is equal to the championship bulls?


I would love to see what kobe gasol and odom would do jordan playing with mo williams as his second option and varejao delonte and old z as the rest of the starters- it would be an absolute rape. Kobe would stick daggers in jordan's mouth while gasol cleaned the floor with old-z.


Buh buh buh that team was built around james. Those players ain't shit - James carried them to 66-wins because he was young and could go 110% every night at the age of 24.

https://media.giphy.com/media/cxTMVMVW1cEMg/giphy.gif

[3ball]

It should have. But like all Lebron James related threads in comes the Jordaneers with their goalpost moving tactics to try and diminish Lebron while still trying to boost Jordan.
Stan's comments about lebron being goat are old comments and he said Oscar is better than Jordan too in that clip, thus ruining his credibility

He was obviously going for shock value to put himself back on the map (wants to coach again)

Otoh, his comments about exploiting lebron are observable fact and very recent.. he probably doesn't regard lebron as highly after last year's record defeat and this year's missed playoffs

Ultimately, Stan knows that calling LeBron "arguably the GOAT" and "letting him get his while I beat him in a series" bolsters his rep (Kuniva)

[red1]

Lebron's skill restriction to primary ball-handler isn't an excuse dude.. it's a weakness

Whose fault is it that Lebron's skill is limited to primary ball-handler and he can't play off-ball or catch-and-shoot to mesh with other player types and have a better team?

The redundancy of Wade/lebron proves a SKILL DEFICIT (no off-ball or catch-and-shoot), which hurts lebron, not helps him
What happened when wade bit the bullet realized he was declining and gave the full reigns to lebron?


They won two in a row against good competition. Despite the fact that bosh was playing out of position getting abused by every center every night.


That narrative is also bullshit. You're a joke 3ball. Just tap out.

[red1]

https://media.giphy.com/media/cxTMVMVW1cEMg/giphy.gif
nah I'm not that invested in this discussion.


that'll be me if we get destroyed by the sixers with lowry choking :oldlol:

[3ball]

What happened when wade bit the bullet realized he was declining and gave the full reigns to lebron?


They won two in a row against good competition. Despite the fact that bosh was playing out of position getting abused by every center every night.


That narrative is also bullshit. You're a joke 3ball. Just tap out.
D Wade 2014 ECF - 20 on 54.8%.. 32 years old.. all-star in 15' and 16'
Pippen. 1998 ECF - 16 on 40.9%.. 33 years old.. done being an all-star


So pippen was older and more banged up than Wade heading into the Finals

but the Heat got blown away in the Finals - teammates always play bad in this scenario including lebron, who played worse than Wade when the games were within 10 points

and the Heat couldn't activate Bosh to take over that series, because he'd been reduced to spot-up shooter (due to Lebron's skill deficit/ball-domination)

So lebron has no excuse... he couldn't make it work like MJ did... MJ won 3 rings with pippen averaging 17 on 40.8% in the 96-98 playoffs, and Rodman MIA in 97' and 98' (4/8 in 97' playoffs and not the starter in 98').

MJ simply won with goat teamwork... Otoh, lebron's skill restriction to ball-domination made him so reliant on 1 player type (shooters), that he ceded the best offenses, brand of ball, and teams to others in the era

[tpols]

nah I'm not that invested in this discussion.


that'll be me if we get destroyed by the sixers with lowry choking :oldlol:


:roll:

I was gonna say...youre already riled up.

It might be a looong day.

[red1]

:roll:

I was gonna say...youre already riled up.

It might be a looong day.
:oldlol:

I'm limiting my time online. Have an exciting week ahead of me at work and game of thrones tonight so I can't complain too much.

[34-24 Footwork]

:facepalm Playing off him because he's a dangerous passer is not a disrespect. It's actually a compliment. If you can't see that

Jesus, sometimes the hate is so amazing I wonder how people cope IRL.

Can't be the best ever and the opposing coach tells the fattest guy in the NBA to check you.

It is what it is...

[red1]

Can't be the best ever and the opposing coach tells the fattest guy in the NBA to check you.

It is what it is...
34-24 IQ :oldlol:

[tpols]

:oldlol:

I'm limiting my time online. Have an exciting week ahead of me at work and game of thrones tonight so I can't complain too much.


All good bro... GL

[34-24 Footwork]

Bunch of guys that have never touched a ball ITT.



What unique insight/experience makes you believe you can beat Isaiah Thomas 1v1?

We're dying to know.

[34-24 Footwork]

34-24 IQ :oldlol:

Basketball reference won't save you in this discussion. You have to actually watch basketball.

[aj1987]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Brick turds continue to hold L's.

[red1]

Basketball reference won't save you in this discussion. You have to actually watch basketball.
IQ same as his shoe size.


34-24 IQ :oldlol:

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[red1]

put some respekk on his name

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/f5/ef/72f5ef2b761f293bd9e2b8f30bfd62d7.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

3424 IQ is actually off the charts high.

[red1]

3424 IQ is actually off the charts high.
correct.

an IQ between 24 and 34 is off the charts - that's a real outlier.

[NBASTATMAN]

SVG" LEBRON IS THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER"


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correct.

an IQ between 24 and 34 is off the charts - that's a real outlier.

On a serious note, anyone using IQ as a barometer of intellect in the 21st century is legitimately stupid af :lol

[SpaceJam2]

SVG" LEBRON IS THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER"


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We stay :banana:

Winning :banana:

[Hey Yo]

All the best teams never doubled LeBron...

Celtics
Spurs
Mavs
Warriors
Now the magic...


LeBron is an in the flow scorer... Very risk adverse. He's not takeover. Coaches know this...

All you really need is a great offensive showing to outlast him. That s why the east was so kind to his teams...Paul George and millsap he can outpace with layups all the west talent not so much
:facepalm

dumb

[Hey Yo]

That's my point - u think a 2nd rate resume of underachievement is goat

For example - how does the greatest player of all time team up with the next best player in the league and lose in 11'? And then be an underdog in 12'? The Heat lost or were underdog for 3 of 4 years..

^^^ That's impossible if lebron is goat... So lebron simply isn't

Face it - our jaws all dropped to the floor when we heard lebron and Wade had teamed up.. Lebron was supposed to win "not 6, not 7" rings.. instead he went 2/4 with goat choke and record defeat. That's pure shit compared to what MJ would've done with 3 HOF like Wade/Bosh/Allen

And ditto for his recent Cavs teams... How was he a massive dog every year with prime Kyrie and Love?? Why didn't he flirt with 70 wins and favorite status like Kawhi and Curry did?

Again, you seem content with a 2nd rate resume when instead you should be mad that lebron is mostly a loser despite elite teammates.
A guy who quit the league for 2yrs to rest up mentally and physically, who also tried to win a ring the easiest way possible by coming back with 17gms left in the season...... makes it impossible for him to be the GOAT.

LeBron's 3 rings >>>> MJ's 3 rings

[Smoke117]

He also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0

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[3ball]

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He said Oscar is better than Jordan too in that clip, thus ruining his credibility

Ultimately, his comments about exploiting lebron are observable fact and very recent.. his comments about lebron goat were before the record loss in 18' and the missed playoffs in 19'

[bigkingsfan]

He said Oscar is better than Jordan too in that clip, thus ruining his credibility

Ultimately, his comments about exploiting lebron are observable fact and very recent.. his comments about lebron goat were before the record loss in 18' and the missed playoffs in 19'
Didn't your dumb ass post a clip of Magic Johnson, how is that for credibility. :roll:

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine having a losing record to your three greatest competitors Bird, Thomas, and Olajuwon and going 1-9 in the playoffs until your savior Scottie Pippen changes your legacy, while eventually winning in the weakest watered-down expansion era in the history of NBA where you never had a memorable Finals game and you never beat anyone, only to have the true goat Crush all of your playoff records against TRUE competition.

These are dark times for Jordan fans :eek:

[RRR3]

LeBron LeBron LeBron.

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron LeBron LeBron.

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[3ball]

I told you guys he said it

They played lebron straight up and stayed at home to lock down his teammates - that's how the underdog Magic beat the Cavs

Ultimately, defenses meet a driver at the rim with multiple defenders, whereas the only way to stop a hot jumpshooter is to get the ball out of their hands (double-team) - indeed, only great jumpshooters like MJ, Curry, Bird, and Kobe get doubled...

Otoh, ball-dominant bricklayers like Westbrook and Lebron are left to their own devices - they won't get hot from the outside and their scoring is the plodding type that takes a lot of dribbles and you see it coming (ball-dominance), so opponents prefer defending this versus defending ball movement and complicated off-ball stuff (pindowns, etc)..

So Lebron's inability to get doubled is a huge flaw in his game that explains how his heavily-favored Cavs lost... And I know that most people think it's crazy to blame Lebron - this is true in a way because Lebron's production allows them to have a good team with only Mo as 2nd option and sub-par cast... But it's still Lebron's fault compared to other greats like MJ, Curry or Kobe that can produce the same amount while getting doubled, so teammates get off and the team has a more powerful attack overall... :confusedshrug:
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