How does Kawhi's current playoff run stack up against MJ's

[Vino24]

32ppg 7reb 3ast

on 57%fg 48% 3pt 90%ft :biggums: :biggums:

[E_Stamkos]

Check out his stats from just the Philly series. So rediculous.

Dude is a brilliant basketball player.

[n00bie]

As a Raptors fan, we dont deserve his greatness. I hope he goes to a better team next year.

[Vino24]

Check out his stats from just the Philly series. So rediculous.

Dude is a brilliant basketball player.
It's insane. If he sustains this it is the GOAT playoff run hands down.

[dazzer87]

Check out his stats from just the Philly series. So rediculous.

Dude is a brilliant basketball player.
Game 1 - 45 points, 70% shooting
Game 2 - 35 points, 54% shooting
Game 3 - 33 points, 59% shooting
Game 4 - 39 points, 65% shooting

[Gougou]

It would be awesome if he can be like 2011 Dirk and get us a ring in Toronto.

[SpaceJam2]

Def better than 1-9 AND no Pippen to carry him

[Gougou]

Def better than 1-9 AND no Pippen to carry him



Siakam is quite similar but yeah...

[3ball]

MJ's best series was 45 on 60%

And another series with 45 on 56%

And another series with 43 on 55%

And 33.5/6/6 on 49% for his career - most playoff runs easily topped kawhi's current 32/7/3

MJ was also at 35/7/7 on 50% for the 85-93' playoffs

The reality is that Kawhi isn't shooting enough - shooting 60% in a tight series means you can shoot a lot more and your team needs you to.. MJ would win this series in 5 by shooting and dominating more

Btw, Kawhi benefits from a wide open game designed by the NBA for perimeter players to thrive. MJ would average 50

[imdaman99]

As a Raptors fan, we dont deserve his greatness. I hope he goes to a better team next year.
:biggums: I really don't understand comments like these.

[And1AllDay]

Def better than 1-9 AND no Pippen to carry him

:eek:

[3ball]

Siakam is quite similar but yeah...
Siakam > 88-90' Pippen easily

Plus 5-time all-star Lowry (all-nba in 16' and 46% HOF probability)

Plus a bunch of other guys that were better than what mj had, like 3x all-defense and 2x block champ ibaka, gasol, among others

MJ would easily win the ring with this squad, and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS

Let me know when Kawhi can jog up to the FT line and double-pump
.

[RRR3]

Siakam > 88-90' Pippen easily

Plus 5-time all-star Lowry (all-nba in 16' and 46% HOF probability)

Plus a bunch of other guys that were better than what mj had, like 3x all-defense and 2x block champ ibaka, gasol, among others

MJ would easily win the ring with this squad, and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS

Let me know when Kawhi can jog up to the FT line and double-pump
.
Kawhi has you shook :lol

[Uncle Drew]

He’s better.

[Uncle Drew]

3ball with the Siakaham > Pippen :oldlol:

[3ball]

Kawhi has you shook :lol
Not at all - I like kawhi a lot and hope he wins it all this year.. I respect his game and skills

Even if he only gets by this philly team but loses to Giannis - that would prove MJ would win the ring this year

Because MJ is a lot better than Kawhi and never played with teammates as good as these raptors - they have pippen, I mean Siakam, plus a perennial all-star PG, plus better role players than MJ ever had

These are facts

So MJ would win easily and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS for sure.. kawhi's a good leader, but MJ was in another dimension.. he'd play all 82, that's for sure

[RRR3]

3ball with the Siakaham > Pippen :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[RRR3]

Not at all - I like kawhi a lot and hope he wins it all this year.. I respect his game and skills

Even if he only gets by this philly team but loses to Giannis - that would prove MJ would win the ring this year

Because MJ is a lot better than Kawhi and never played with teammates as good as these raptors - they have pippen, I mean Siakam, plus a perennial all-star PG, plus better role players than MJ ever had

These are facts

So MJ would win easily and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS for sure.. kawhi's a good leader, but MJ was in another dimension.. he'd play all 82, that's for sure
MJ would be DeRozan in this era.


Kawhi is way better.


You’re a delusional fool living in the past.

[LAmbruh]

3ball with the Siakaham > Pippen :oldlol:
:oldlol: :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
I

[3ball]

[QUOTE=RRR3]MJ would be DeRozan in this era.


Kawhi is way better.


You

[bigkingsfan]

Plus 5-time all-star Lowry (all-nba in 16' and 46% HOF probability)

Times must be hard when you have to hype up Lowry :roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

So far, up there with second 3-peat Jordan.

I wouldnt put him in that 1991-93 tier though. Not yet at least. That Jordan was a better playmaker and scorer than Kawhi, handily.

[RRR3]

DeRozan doesn't compare to Clyde, let alone MJ.. :whatever:


Regular Season

DREXLER:.. 20.4.. 6.1.. 5.6.. 54.7 ts.. 114 ortg.. 21.1 PER.. 0.175 ws/48... 6.0 bpm.. 75.6 vorp
DEROZAN:. 19.9.. 4.3.. 3.4.. 53.6 ts.. 109 ortg.. 17.9 PER.. 0.113 ws/48.. -0.5 bpm.. 10.0 vorp


Playoffs

DREXLER:.. 20.4.. 6.9.. 6.1.. 53.2 ts.. 113 ortg.. 19.7 PER.. 0.134 ws/48... 5.9 bpm.. 11.0 vorp
DEROZAN:. 21.9.. 4.6.. 3.6.. 50.3 ts.. 103 ortg.. 16.7 PER.. 0.052 ws/48.. -1.8 bpm.. 0.1 vorp


See, now ur getting crushed itt - get your head out of your ass and stop being delusional

Btw, MJ's comp was otherworldly - Drexler destroys DeRozan... :bowdown: :bowdown:
I said IN. THIS. ERA.


It’s much tougher nowadays, grocery baggers don’t make the league anymore. Drexler today would be Patrick McCaw.

[And1AllDay]

3ball with the Siakaham > Pippen :oldlol:

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[3ball]

So far, up there with second 3-peat Jordan.

I wouldnt put him in that 1991-93 tier though. Not yet at least. That Jordan was a better playmaker and scorer than Kawhi, handily.


Kawhi is dropping 38 per game now, but won FMVP with 17 in 2014 (24 when he got cooking in games 3-5)

That's an indication of the change in era and how much easier it is to score now

And that was just 5 years ago, let alone the clogged paints of the 90's

Just based on eye test, I think 96-98' MJ was much better than Kawhi and would have better numbers than him.. MJ was far quicker with much quicker reflexes, and his mid-range jumper and repertoire was a couple levels up from Kawhi.. just an entirely better player - similar footwork sometimes, but far more graceful, skilled, quick and better instincts..

Earlier today I was watching the 95' ecsf that MJ lost, and Shaq was just standing in the paint for entire possessions along with other players - the paint was largely sealed and it took a great move to get in there, otherwise it was all jumpers - and super tough contested jumpers that Kawhi doesn't have to take

Just night and day different defenses.. a different sport basically.. it would really be something to see MJ in today's game with all that space.. 50 point games would occur with considerable regularity

[And1AllDay]

Kawhi is dropping 38 per game now, but won FMVP with 17 in 2014 (24 when he got cooking in games 3-5)

That's an indication of the change in era and how much easier it is to score now

And that was just 5 years ago, let alone the clogged paints of the 90's

Just based on eye test, I think 96-98' MJ was much better than Kawhi and would have better numbers than him.. MJ was far quicker with much quicker reflexes, and his mid-range jumper and repertoire was a couple levels up from Kawhi.. just an entirely better player - similar footwork sometimes, but far more graceful, skilled, quick and better instincts..

Earlier today I was watching the 95' ecsf that MJ lost, and Shaq was just standing in the paint for entire possessions along with other players - the paint was largely sealed and it took a great move to get in there, otherwise it was all jumpers - and super tough contested jumpers that Kawhi doesn't have to take

Just night and day different defenses.. a different sport basically.. it would really be something to see MJ in today's game with all that fun space.. 50 point games would ovvur with considerable regularity

Does Mike get Pippen in modern era or is he reduced back to 1-9 size

[SpaceJam]

Siakam > 88-90' Pippen easily

Plus 5-time all-star Lowry (all-nba in 16' and 46% HOF probability)

Plus a bunch of other guys that were better than what mj had, like 3x all-defense and 2x block champ ibaka, gasol, among others

MJ would easily win the ring with this squad, and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS

Let me know when Kawhi can jog up to the FT line and double-pump
.

Imagine trying to be taken seriously when you say shit like this :roll:

[SpaceJam]

Imagine trying to be taken seriously when you say shit like this :roll:

Ben Wallace 45%
Chris Mullin 45%
Damian Lillard 36%
Reggie Miller 31%
Kawhi Leonard 15%

You're a tard 3ball :roll:

[Doranku]

3ball with the Siakaham > Pippen :oldlol:

LMAO god damnit that killed me.

As for OP, this should come as no surprise. He was nearly as dominant in his last playoff run before he got injured against GS...

28/8/5 on 53/46/93 splits :bowdown: Was well on his way to dropping 40 in GS en route to a blowout win before he went down too.

This was inevitable, especially against the East.

[Manny98]

MJ could only dream of having god like efficiency like Kawhi

[Gileraracer]

It's sad that Lebron missed the POs. This version of Kawhi would drop 45ppg when defended by Lebron

[sportjames23]

MJ's best series was 45 on 60%

And another series with 45 on 56%

And another series with 43 on 55%

And 33.5/6/6 on 49% for his career - most playoff runs easily topped kawhi's current 32/7/3

MJ was also at 35/7/7 on 50% for the 85-93' playoffs

The reality is that Kawhi isn't shooting enough - shooting 60% in a tight series means you can shoot a lot more and your team needs you to.. MJ would win this series in 5 by shooting and dominating more

Btw, Kawhi benefits from a wide open game designed by the NBA for perimeter players to thrive. MJ would average 50


/thread :pimp:

[Paul George 24]

As a Raptors fan, we dont deserve his greatness. I hope he goes to a better team next year.
IBAKA IS SO BAD,WHERE HIS 3 POINTS SHOTS ?

[Paul George 24]

MJ could only dream of having god like efficiency like Kawhi
LECHOKE WOULD ONLY DREAM HE CAN WIN 6 RINGS :roll:

[Paul George 24]

[QUOTE=RRR3]MJ would be DeRozan in this era.


Kawhi is way better.


You

[Paul George 24]

[QUOTE=RRR3]I said IN. THIS. ERA.


It

[Paul George 24]

Siakam > 88-90' Pippen easily

Plus 5-time all-star Lowry (all-nba in 16' and 46% HOF probability)

Plus a bunch of other guys that were better than what mj had, like 3x all-defense and 2x block champ ibaka, gasol, among others

MJ would easily win the ring with this squad, and be FAVORED to do so - they'd flirt with 70 wins in RS

Let me know when Kawhi can jog up to the FT line and double-pump
.
ARE U KIDDING ???:lol

[red1]

As a Raptors fan, we dont deserve his greatness. I hope he goes to a better team next year.
I'm a kawhi fan for life now. I'll cop his jersey no matter where he is.

[tontoz]

Why can't we just appreciate a great run without bringing up Jordan? I am old enough to remember Jordan in college and loved his game, but frankly I get tired of his name being constantly brought up.

Kawhi has been awesome. Funny thing is that he is making it look easy. He never looks hurried, almost like he is playing in slow motion, and is able to score routinely. Along with Durant he is showing the value of an advanced midrange game in the playoffs.

That stepback 3 at the end of the game, while being double teamed by Embid/Simmons, was the definition of clutch. :applause:

[sportjames23]

Why can't we just appreciate a great run without bringing up Jordan? I am old enough to remember Jordan in college and loved his game, but frankly I get tired of his name being constantly brought up.

Kawhi has been awesome. Funny thing is that he is making it look easy. He never looks hurried, almost like he is playing in slow motion, and is able to score routinely. Along with Durant he is showing the value of an advanced midrange game in the playoffs.

That stepback 3 at the end of the game, while being double teamed by Embid/Simmons, was the definition of clutch. :applause:

You know the only ones who bring up MJ are the Lebron trolls here.

[bullettooth]

MJ could only dream of having god like efficiency like Kawhi

How's LeBron doing this year in the playoffs?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kawhi is dropping 38 per game now, but won FMVP with 17 in 2014 (24 when he got cooking in games 3-5)

That's an indication of the change in era and how much easier it is to score now

And that was just 5 years ago, let alone the clogged paints of the 90's

Just based on eye test, I think 96-98' MJ was much better than Kawhi and would have better numbers than him.. MJ was far quicker with much quicker reflexes, and his mid-range jumper and repertoire was a couple levels up from Kawhi.. just an entirely better player - similar footwork sometimes, but far more graceful, skilled, quick and better instincts..

Earlier today I was watching the 95' ecsf that MJ lost, and Shaq was just standing in the paint for entire possessions along with other players - the paint was largely sealed and it took a great move to get in there, otherwise it was all jumpers - and super tough contested jumpers that Kawhi doesn't have to take

Just night and day different defenses.. a different sport basically.. it would really be something to see MJ in today's game with all that space.. 50 point games would occur with considerable regularity

Most of what you say is true.

I'd still say Kawhi in on that 96-98 tier though. He impacts the game on both ends @ an elite, superstar level.

Not that he's better than that Jordan. More like a HEIR on the waiting list. To be fair, I don't even like the MJ comparison. Kawhi plays more like Pippen but with better offensive skills. If anything he moves like Wizards MJ :oldlol:

[FKAri]

You know the only ones who bring up MJ are the Lebron trolls here.
No. Literally only one loser brings up MJ out of the blue and that's 3ball.

Lots of losers bringing up Lebron out of the blue tho:

How's LeBron doing this year in the playoffs?

[TheMan]

MJ could only dream of having god like efficiency like Kawhi
Efficency in a defensive weak era like today isn't that hard.

What was Kawhi's efficiency numbers during the Finals series he won FMVP while making LBJ his bitch again?

I will say that Kawhi has improved a lot on his midrange shooting, you just can't give him open looks and dare him to shoot like teams do to LeBron...

[SpaceJam2]

How's LeBron doing this year in the playoffs?

Still more points than anyone ever. So pretty good :confusedshrug: