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SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 12:36 PM
He was a good scorer and an average playmaker with average IQ and average passing. If he was a better passer would he average more than two assists in the '98 NBA finals?

superduper
05-06-2019, 12:53 PM
No because that's not remotely close to how you would go about measuring a certain skill level of a player.

More assists does not equal better passer, that's just not how reality works.

Sounds very much like Bran stan logic to me.

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 12:54 PM
No because that's not remotely close to how you would go about measuring a certain skill level of a player.

More assists does not equal better passer, that's just not how reality works.

Sounds very much like Bran stan logic to me.

Oh, so less assists = better passer

:biggums:

LostCause
05-06-2019, 12:56 PM
Oh, so less assists = better passer

:biggums:

Is Westbrook a better passer than LeBron?

Anyway, to answer the thread: Drew Gooden

Bronbron23
05-06-2019, 12:57 PM
Mj had alot of assists for a 2 gaurd. Also The triangle offence wasnt designed for one guy to dominate the ball like with LeBron, harden and Westbrook so it's not gonna lead to high individual assists. LeBron who is considered a goat passer gets less than 2 more assist a game than mj as a ball dominant point gaurd so either mj is much better than you think or LeBron is much worse.

superduper
05-06-2019, 12:58 PM
Is Westbrook a better passer than LeBron?

Anyway, to answer the thread: Drew Gooden

I guarantee you dude is going to avoid this like the plague and spam some stupid unrelated pictures.

HURR LESS ASSISTS = BETTER PASSER?!?

No you're just retarded.

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 12:58 PM
Is Westbrook a better passer than LeBron?

Anyway, to answer the thread: Drew Gooden

Finals numbers please

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 12:59 PM
I guarantee you dude is going to avoid this like the plague and spam some stupid unrelated pictures.

HURR LESS ASSISTS = BETTER PASSER?!?

No you're just retarded.

Get a grip

Is 2.3 apg a strong playmaker peformance?

superduper
05-06-2019, 01:02 PM
Finals numbers please

Pathetic

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:04 PM
Pathetic

Sheesh I said please

egokiller
05-06-2019, 01:05 PM
Josh Gad
Jason Terry
3/9

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:07 PM
Can we focus here

If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

LostCause
05-06-2019, 01:22 PM
Can we focus here

If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

Yes

If LeBron was a better player, shouldn't he be able to completely outplay Drew Gooden?

http://oi68.tinypic.com/6ib1gw.jpg
https://www.athletespeakers.com/storage/celebrities/267x367/1532532046_drew-gooden.jpg

Phoenix
05-06-2019, 01:28 PM
If Lebron was a better winner would he have more rings?

#askingforafriend

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:32 PM
Yes

If LeBron was a better player, shouldn't he be able to completely outplay Drew Gooden?

http://oi68.tinypic.com/6ib1gw.jpg
https://www.athletespeakers.com/storage/celebrities/267x367/1532532046_drew-gooden.jpg

Game Score

Thanks

Good bye

PS: If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

superduper
05-06-2019, 01:34 PM
Game Score

Thanks

Good bye

PS: If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

Why did past-prime-washed-up-useless-garbage Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher GameScore than PRIME LeGOAT in 2011?

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:35 PM
Why did past-prime-washed-up-useless-garbage Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher GameScore than PRIME LeGOAT in 2011?

Who said he was Garbage in 2012?

Also, FGA please

superduper
05-06-2019, 01:37 PM
Who said he was Garbage in 2012?

Also, FGA please

GameScore.

Peace.

LostCause
05-06-2019, 01:40 PM
Game Score

Thanks

Good bye

PS: If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

Difference of... 1.6

Guess we should stop underrating the 92 Blazers then. They had 3 people playing better than your GOAT, LeBron, in the 92 Finals

Clyde Drexler: 18.4 Gamescore
Terry Porter: 12.5 Gamescore
Jerome Kersey: 10.7 Gamescore

For reference: LeBron 2007: 10.6 Gamescore

Stacked

LAmbruh
05-06-2019, 01:42 PM
IMO Kobe was an efficient passer, except most of the his iconic passes were technically shots that clanked iron and ricocheted right into the rebounding gloves of Lakers HOF 7 foot Tri-Towers man handling guys like KG/Duncan/Dwight


aka The Kobe Assist

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=LAmbruh]IMO Kobe was an efficient passer, except most of the his iconic passes were technically shots that clanked iron and ricocheted right into the rebounding gloves of Lakers HOF 7 foot Tri-Towers man handling guys like KG/Duncan/Dwight


aka The Kobe Assist

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 01:44 PM
Difference of... 1.6

Guess we should stop underrating the 92 Blazers then. They had 3 people playing better than your GOAT, LeBron, in the 92 Finals

Clyde Drexler: 18.4 Gamescore
Terry Porter: 12.5 Gamescore
Jerome Kersey: 10.7 Gamescore

For reference: LeBron 2007: 10.6 Gamescore

Stacked

Imagine comparing 2007 LeBron :lol

Cute

DaHeezy
05-06-2019, 01:59 PM
Imagine if Kahwi put up Lebron assist totals. He'd be considered GOAT SF passer. Lebron hater logic

The thread is about assists. Move the goalpost to gamescore. Lebron hater logic.

paksat
05-06-2019, 02:31 PM
Mj had alot of assists for a 2 gaurd. Also The triangle offence wasnt designed for one guy to dominate the ball like with LeBron, harden and Westbrook so it's not gonna lead to high individual assists. LeBron who is considered a goat passer gets less than 2 more assist a game than mj as a ball dominant point gaurd so either mj is much better than you think or LeBron is much worse.

this is what the resident children don't seem to grasp

imagine playing on the floor, calling a play and only getting to the touch the ball twice

lbj would cry so hard the arena would be the next event for michael phelps

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 02:34 PM
this is what the resident children don't seem to grasp

imagine playing on the floor, calling a play and only getting to the touch the ball twice

lbj would cry so hard the arena would be the next event for michael phelps

Imagine thinking it's a good idea to keep the ball out of the hands of the greatest playmaker, passer and highest IQ player in NBA history :lol

Imagine thinking this is a good idea

Paul George 24
05-06-2019, 02:35 PM
Oh, so less assists = better passer

:biggums:
HAS LESS TURNOVER TAN LECHOKE EVER DREAM:lol

paksat
05-06-2019, 02:36 PM
if lbj wasn't a coward would he have more championships?

Paul George 24
05-06-2019, 02:36 PM
Imagine if Kahwi put up Lebron assist totals. He'd be considered GOAT SF passer. Lebron hater logic

The thread is about assists. Move the goalpost to gamescore. Lebron hater logic.
TURNOVER KING:lol

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 02:40 PM
if lbj wasn't a coward would he have more championships?

Meltdown

If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

LostCause
05-06-2019, 02:56 PM
Imagine comparing 2007 LeBron :lol

Cute

I guess taking the Cavs to the Finals in 07 wasn’t that hard then. Kersey could do it

Also, 2007 Drew Gooden doe

Manny98
05-06-2019, 03:01 PM
HAS LESS TURNOVER TAN LECHOKE EVER DREAM:lol
WHY DO YOU ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS FAKKIT :lol

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 03:03 PM
LeBron

Can you FOCUS


If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

superduper
05-06-2019, 03:04 PM
Can you FOCUS


If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

Man I TRULY hope this nonsensical troll spam makes you feel better about your shitty reality of a life :lol

I hope your VORP and GameScore make you feel better at night bro :(

paksat
05-06-2019, 03:04 PM
Meltdown

If Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

if lbj had a brain would he come off a screen? :roll:

SpaceJam2
05-06-2019, 03:13 PM
Lebron

Easy tiger

ImKobe
05-06-2019, 03:40 PM
98 Bulls had Ron Harper and Pippen. Jordan played in the triangle, his role wasn't to distribute the ball for others but to score the points himself.

MJ had averaged more points, assists, steals & blocks for a championship run (1991) than Lebron has in any of his title runs. MJ's averaged 30+ points and over 11 assists in a Finals series while also shooting above 60%TS (1991), Lebron hasn't done any of those in a winning Finals series.

Let's compare Lebron's 2016 Finals to MJ's

Jordan: 31/7/11 2.8 stl 1.4 blk 61.2%TS 3.6 TO 29.4 GmSc
James: 30/11/9 2.6 stl 2.3 blk 56.2%TS 4.4 TO 26.5 GmSc

this is Lebron's best vs. Jordan's 2nd/3rd best.

Leviathon1121
05-06-2019, 03:50 PM
98 Bulls had Ron Harper and Pippen. Jordan played in the triangle, his role wasn't to distribute the ball for others but to score the points himself.

MJ had averaged more points, assists, steals & blocks for a championship run (1991) than Lebron has in any of his title runs. MJ's averaged 30+ points and over 11 assists in a Finals series while also shooting above 60%TS (1991), Lebron hasn't done any of those in a winning Finals series.

Let's compare Lebron's 2016 Finals to MJ's

Jordan: 31/7/11 2.8 stl 1.4 blk 61.2%TS 3.6 TO 29.4 GmSc
James: 30/11/9 2.6 stl 2.3 blk 56.2%TS 4.4 TO 26.5 GmSc

this is Lebron's best vs. Jordan's 2nd/3rd best.
:applause:

And1AllDay
05-06-2019, 03:50 PM
98 Bulls had Ron Harper and Pippen. Jordan played in the triangle, his role wasn't to distribute the ball for others but to score the points himself.

MJ had averaged more points, assists, steals & blocks for a championship run (1991) than Lebron has in any of his title runs. MJ's averaged 30+ points and over 11 assists in a Finals series while also shooting above 60%TS (1991), Lebron hasn't done any of those in a winning Finals series.

Let's compare Lebron's 2016 Finals to MJ's

Jordan: 31/7/11 2.8 stl 1.4 blk 61.2%TS 3.6 TO 29.4 GmSc
James: 30/11/9 2.6 stl 2.3 blk 56.2%TS 4.4 TO 26.5 GmSc

this is Lebron's best vs. Jordan's 2nd/3rd best.

And one guy battled a 73 win team and the other guy..battled...?

And how is 16 better than 17 and 18 Finals :oldlol: Pull up 18 finals it blows Mike out of the WATER

Dont start making stuff up now

72-10
05-06-2019, 04:12 PM
If MJ had better teammates early in his career, he would have more assists. Then he assumed the role of primary scorer in the triangle offense.
So, no, I would not expect high assist numbers.

ImKobe
05-06-2019, 04:44 PM
MJ averaged 44/7/7 on 58%TS against arguably the greatest Celtics team in history, but why are Lebron fans only able to give me better numbers in years he lost in? I could go on and on about 80s MJ putting up ungodly numbers in series that his team wasn't good enough to win in.

3ball
05-06-2019, 04:47 PM
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MJ was considered a better PG than magic/isiah during his 24 games at PG in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games):



"In just 16 games at point guard, Jordan has gone from the league’s leading scorer the last two seasons to being lumped with Johnson, John Stockton of Utah and Isiah Thomas of Detroit as the elite among NBA point guards. Jordan may already be the best of the group."

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/


^^^^^ Pippen didn't have it like that... :whatever:

MJ had the biggest scoring gap ever between #1 and #2 options (goat scoring load), yet he still led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen, including 3 championship runs (91, 93, 97)

And1AllDay
05-06-2019, 05:15 PM
[QUOTE=3ball].
MJ was considered a better PG than magic/isiah during his 24 games at PG in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games):


[INDENT][I]"In just 16 games at point guard, Jordan has gone from the league

paksat
05-06-2019, 05:25 PM
Oh so if Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?

somebody make sense of this shit please for the love of gawd almighty someone

if mj was a better shooter would he have more points?
if mj was a better dribbler would he dribble more?

are you trying to say mj was a bad passer? find me some bad passes then

Paul George 24
05-06-2019, 07:03 PM
Oh so if Jordan was a better passer would he have more assists?
LECHOKE AVG 4 TOV/PER :oldlol:

3ball
05-06-2019, 07:43 PM
He'd have more assists if he had a lesser scoring burden

His team needed scoring champion production from their #1 option to win rings

So only MJ could provide it - only MJ won the scoring title and title in the same season (6 times)

edit: Kareem and Shaq did it once each in their peak seasons of 71' and 00'.. so their peak burden was mj's standard burden to win a ring

Only MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option to win all his rings (1-man show), yet he still averaged 6 apg for his playoff career and led the bulls in APG for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside pip