How good was Wade in the 2014 Finals

[Dray n Klay]

I didn

[SpaceJam2]

15 on 44%
7.9 Game Score
Not so good :(

[Dray n Klay]

15 on 44%
7.9 Game Score
Not so good :(

B-But ISH told me 2011 LeBron was the worst finals ever!! :roll: :roll:


Another myth destroyed

[SpaceJam2]

B-But ISH told me 2011 LeBron was the worst finals ever!! :roll: :roll:


Another myth destroyed

Boom

https://i.postimg.cc/PJw2h6g9/ezgif-com-gif-maker.gif

[superduper]

Since we care about GameScore so much...

Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have MORE GameScore than LeGOAT in 2011?

:eek: :eek:

[SpaceJam2]

Since we care about GameScore so much...

Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have MORE GameScore than LeGOAT in 2011?

:eek: :eek:

2014 Wade tho :(

Also...

Shawn Kemp vs MJ in 96 Finals

DONT LOOK IT UP

You have been WARNED

[superduper]

2014 Wade tho :(

Also...

Shawn Kemp vs MJ in 96 Finals

DONT LOOK IT UP

You have been WARNED

Is there a reason you're shamelessly and blatantly avoiding the question?

[SpaceJam2]

Is there a reason you're shamelessly and blatantly avoiding the question?

Ditto

How good was Wade in the 2014 Finals

[paksat]

I wish kblaze would perma ban you and all your alts

you guys literally don't even talk basketball... ever

it's just lbj this lbj that, excuses for lbj this, excuses for lbj that

your boy can't even put an all star squad together when he gets to put together the TEAM and his own COACH ALL HAND PICKED

[Dray n Klay]

I wish kblaze would perma ban you and all your alts

you guys literally don't even talk basketball... ever

it's just lbj this lbj that, excuses for lbj this, excuses for lbj that

your boy can't even put an all star squad together when he gets to put together the TEAM and his own COACH ALL HAND PICKED


This thread is about Wade...

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]I didn

[And1AllDay]

I wish kblaze would perma ban you and all your alts

you guys literally don't even talk basketball... ever

it's just lbj this lbj that, excuses for lbj this, excuses for lbj that

your boy can't even put an all star squad together when he gets to put together the TEAM and his own COACH ALL HAND PICKED

Bruh the title says WADE so what are you blabbering on about :rant

[Manny98]

15 on 44%
7.9 Game Score
Not so good :(
LeBron would have 4 peated if it weren't for choking ass Wade shitting the bed in the finals :facepalm

[And1AllDay]

LeBron would have 4 peated if it weren't for choking ass Wade shitting the bed in the finals :facepalm

True Wade tried to be the man in 11' and took too many Finals shots and threw off rhtyhm and in 2014 well we see the results :eek:

[red1]

wade and jame are even.


lebron choked 2011
wade was trash 2014


at least wade has an excuse in the bum knees

[SouBeachTalents]

wade and jame are even.


lebron choked 2011
wade was trash 2014


at least wade has an excuse in the bum knees
LeBron

[ImKobe]

Box score watchers already forgetting how Lebron missed a free throw to ice the game and Wade put the Spurs away in Game 2 with 9 seconds to go.

Wade wasn't even that bad in the series, it's just that the games weren't particularly close so he didn't play that many minutes or take that many shots, he was good in the first 3 games but the Heat were just getting killed from everywhere on the defensive end. Spurs shot lights out from 3 in all their wins and also got to the rim. He did shoot below-average in the last two but he only took like 10 shots so I don't think he's the reason they lost, they got blown out when he had his best game of the series.

[Smoke117]

Better than LeBron in the 2019 playoffs.

[And1AllDay]

Box score watchers already forgetting how Lebron missed a free throw to ice the game and Wade put the Spurs away in Game 2 with 9 seconds to go.

Wade wasn't even that bad in the series, it's just that the games weren't particularly close so he didn't play that many minutes or take that many shots, he was good in the first 3 games but the Heat were just getting killed from everywhere on the defensive end. Spurs shot lights out from 3 in all their wins and also got to the rim. He did shoot below-average in the last two but he only took like 10 shots so I don't think he's the reason they lost, they got blown out when he had his best game of the series.

Are you defending Wade in 14' or what the hell is going on now

[And1AllDay]

Better than LeBron in the 2019 playoffs.

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs3Py0nq/tenor.gifhttps://i.postimg.cc/Fs3Py0nq/tenor.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

Box score watchers already forgetting how Lebron missed a free throw to ice the game and Wade put the Spurs away in Game 2 with 9 seconds to go.

Wade wasn't even that bad in the series, it's just that the games weren't particularly close so he didn't play that many minutes or take that many shots, he was good in the first 3 games but the Heat were just getting killed from everywhere on the defensive end. Spurs shot lights out from 3 in all their wins and also got to the rim. He did shoot below-average in the last two but he only took like 10 shots so I don't think he's the reason they lost, they got blown out when he had his best game of the series.
GTFOH, Wade was absolutely atrocious that series :oldlol: He literally played like a G League scrub those last two games. This dude is delusional to think Wade wasn

[red1]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]LeBron

[red1]

Box score watchers already forgetting how Lebron missed a free throw to ice the game and Wade put the Spurs away in Game 2 with 9 seconds to go.

Wade wasn't even that bad in the series, it's just that the games weren't particularly close so he didn't play that many minutes or take that many shots, he was good in the first 3 games but the Heat were just getting killed from everywhere on the defensive end. Spurs shot lights out from 3 in all their wins and also got to the rim. He did shoot below-average in the last two but he only took like 10 shots so I don't think he's the reason they lost, they got blown out when he had his best game of the series.
lol.


I thought it was over for dwade after that series. his career I mean.


the guy could barely run up and down the court.

[And1AllDay]

that's 100% true the spurs offense was surgical that year.


2011 was a gimme if lebron played up to par.

The 2011 Mavs is underrated they play amazing team ball but yes Bran shat the bed and he needs to take heat for that but Wade ball should have been enough to carry but he wasnt strong enough he didnt have enough power

[ImKobe]

GTFOH, Wade was absolutely atrocious that series :oldlol: He literally played like a G League scrub those last two games. This dude is delusional to think Wade wasn’t ass that series

And they lost by like 20 at home when he put up 22 on about 67% shooting..

Miami's defense lost them that series. Spurs couldn't miss from 3 and they also got to the rim and to the FT line with ease.. Spurs also dominated the offensive glass.

Heat lost by a record margin and here you are bashing his 15 ppg on average efficiency. It's not why they lost.


lol.


I thought it was over for dwade after that series. his career I mean.


the guy could barely run up and down the court.

I thought that throughout the season when he was sitting out games and looking tired but the offense wasn't really the issue, their defense just wasn't there. Couldn't close out on the shooters and they got killed on the boards.

[SouBeachTalents]

And they lost by like 20 at home when he put up 22 on about 67% shooting..

Miami's defense lost them that series. Spurs couldn't miss from 3 and they also got to the rim and to the FT line with ease.. Spurs also dominated the offensive glass.

Heat lost by a record margin and here you are bashing his 15 ppg on average efficiency. It's not why they lost.
I'm not saying he's the reason they lost, but him playing like that gave them absolutely no chance to win

[red1]

The 2011 Mavs is underrated they play amazing team ball but yes Bran shat the bed and he needs to take heat for that but Wade ball should have been enough to carry but he wasnt strong enough he didnt have enough power
"you're choking like a bitch fam makin us look bad out here - get your head in the game son"

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/QuarterlyRequiredGnu-size_restricted.gif

[red1]

And they lost by like 20 at home when he put up 22 on about 67% shooting..

Miami's defense lost them that series. Spurs couldn't miss from 3 and they also got to the rim and to the FT line with ease.. Spurs also dominated the offensive glass.

Heat lost by a record margin and here you are bashing his 15 ppg on average efficiency. It's not why they lost.



I thought that throughout the season when he was sitting out games and looking tired but the offense wasn't really the issue, their defense just wasn't there. Couldn't close out on the shooters and they got killed on the boards.
wade's defense or lack of it was a huge part of the problem.


he literally couldn't run up and down the court and it was because his body was failing him. he needed to take a few months or a year off after the last three deep runs.


this face says it all.

https://media.giphy.com/media/P5fAzhgAl3NNC/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[3ball]

15 on 44%
7.9 Game Score
Not so good :(



MJ won with Pippen doing that all the time:



1988 PLAYOFFS:. 10.0 on 46.5%
1989 PLAYOFFS:. 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF. vs. DET:. 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:. 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:. 21.7 on 40.5%

1995 ECSF vs ORL:. 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:. 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:. 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:. 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF. vs. MIA:. 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECFS vsN IND:. 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:. 15.7 on 41.0%


Pippen's stats in 96-98 Playoffs - 17 on 40%


^^^ Those stats show that Pippen was only good for 3 years alongside MJ - 1991-1993 - he sucked the other years - 88-90' and 95-98'[/QUOTE]

[red1]

mj mj mj mjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmmjjmjmjjmjmjmjjmjmjmjm
no one cares you goof.

[SouBeachTalents]

MJ won with Pippen doing that all the time:



1988 PLAYOFFS:. 10.0 on 46.5%
1989 PLAYOFFS:. 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF. vs. DET:. 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:. 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:. 21.7 on 40.5%

1995 ECSF vs ORL:. 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:. 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:. 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:. 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF. vs. MIA:. 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECFS vsN IND:. 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:. 15.7 on 41.0%


Pippen's stats in 96-98 Playoffs - 17 on 40%


^^^ Those stats show that Pippen was only good for 3 years alongside MJ - 1991-1993 - he sucked the other years - 88-90' and 95-98'
Yep, just disregard assists, rebounds & defense completely :lol

[red1]

Yep, just disregard assists, rebounds & defense completely :lol
he thinks MJ would've won with the 2009 and 2010 cavs :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

he thinks MJ would've won with the 2009 and 2010 cavs :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/BvsKz5rs/giphy.gif

[ImKobe]

he thinks MJ would've won with the 2009 and 2010 cavs :oldlol:

2009 and 2010 were both winnable... Especially 2010 if we're being honest.

You think MJ comes up short like that in his prime for 3 straight games against a 50-win team? Lebron was all-time bad in those games.

21.3 ppg on 34/15/74 splits with 6.3 TOs in 3 straight losses. Cavs lost by 32 at home with James going 3/14 for 15/6/7 in 41 minutes. Just inexcusable.

[Smoke117]

Yep, just disregard assists, rebounds & defense completely :lol

He also disregards the fact that Pippen was hurt in the 96, 97, and 98 playoffs. Part of this his fault as far as 96 goes...he refused to take time off because they were going after the win record. In 97 he had the foot injury throughout the playoffs which he almost caused him to miss game 1 of the finals. He then was dealing with his back that culminated in the 98 game 5 injury. You are correct, though, he disregards everything but scoring. Scottie was basically the best defensive player on the court throughout all of their latter runs for the Bulls and the opposing team. You can't discount that kind of impact.

[3ball]

no one cares you goof.
Lebron couldn't win with a 15 ppg 2nd option because lebron-ball lacks the teamwork

Lebron always needed a 20 ppg sidekick to win the Finals

And a perennial all-star 3rd option

Lebron needed more because his inferior skill set forced him to play a shit brand of ball

[superduper]

Lebron was all-time bad in those games.

21.3 ppg on 34/15/74 splits with 6.3 TOs in 3 straight losses. Cavs lost by 32 at home with James going 3/14 for 15/6/7 in 41 minutes. Just inexcusable.

I completely expect this incredibly contextual fact of reality to be purposely overlooked because if LeGOAT couldn't do it with his $tats then no one could.

:(

and LMAOO at 15% from 3 :eek:

[And1AllDay]

Lebron couldn't win with a 15 ppg 2nd option because lebron-ball lacks the teamwork

Lebron always needed a 20 ppg sidekick to win the Finals

And a perennial all-star 3rd option

Lebron needed more because his inferior skill set forced him to play a shit brand of ball

Against dynasty Spurs or mechanics?

[3ball]

he thinks MJ would've won with the 2009 and 2010 cavs :oldlol:
The Cavs were hugely favored to win the championship both years, so MJ would've easily won - he never lose st as the favorite

MJ won 3 rings with 1 star and a bunch of role players.. and then 3 more with a bunch of role players

[superduper]

Against dynasty Spurs or mechanics?

A literal street vendor is the current MVP

[And1AllDay]

The Cavs were hugely favored to win the championship both years, so MJ would've easily won - he never lose st as the favorite

1-9

:eek:

[Bronbron23]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]I didn

[ImKobe]

He also disregards the fact that Pippen was hurt in the 96, 97, and 98 playoffs. Part of this his fault as far as 96 goes...he refused to take time off because they were going after the win streak. In 97 he had the foot injury throughout the playoffs which he almost missed game 1 of the finals for. He then had his back in the 98 finals. You are correct, though, he disregards everything but scoring. Scottie was basically the best defensive player on the court throughout all of their latter runs for the Bulls and the opposing team. You can't discount that kind of impact.

So how were the Bulls BETTER on defense (from 4th with a 102.4 DRTG to 3rd with a 99.8 DRTG) in '98 with Pippen missing 38 games?

[Manny98]

Lebron couldn't win with a 15 ppg 2nd option because lebron-ball lacks the teamwork

Lebron always needed a 20 ppg sidekick to win the Finals

And a perennial all-star 3rd option

Lebron needed more because his inferior skill set forced him to play a shit brand of ball
Wade averaged 15ppg in the 2013 Playoffs

Jordan never won with his second option averaging below 16 ppg in any of his championship runs

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[Smoke117]

So how were the Bulls BETTER on defense (from 4th with a 102.4 DRTG to 3rd with a 99.8 DRTG) in '98 with Pippen missing 38 games?

Oh wait, you meant from 97. Well what is your point? Pippen's drating was under the teams in 98 at 99. He was only one of 3 players to be under that 99.8. He made the all defensive team despite only playing 44 games because of how great he was. So you have basically said nothing. Also, the league in 98 was really anemic in general as far as offense as it'd stay into the early 2000s. I don't know what the combined offensive rating was for that 98 season, but I'm sure it's one of the lowest in league history with expansion thinning out the talent and stars aging out.

[3ball]

Yep, just disregard assists, rebounds & defense completely :lol
^^^^ only MJ won with that kind of anemic offensive help

MJ won 6 rings as a 1-man show on offense

How many times did pippen get doubled or take over down the stretch.. literally never.. :confusedshrug:

MJ had to take over every tight game down the stretch despite attracting all the double-teams and attention.. and if he didn't - bulls lost

Here's Phil telling the guys to wait just a little bit longer before"leaving Michael alone" to take over down the stretch.... :roll: :yaohappy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s


Only MJ had it like that... :pimp:.

[3ball]

Others got worse. Scottie had a 99drating in the 44 games he returned in, so his drating was lower than their average before he even came back. Not sure what you were going for here, but you pretty much failed. It also would make sense that others would fall off defensively as the wear and tear and grind of the season got to them in the latter half of the season. Either way, Pippen was doing his job.

This was the consensus about Pippen:



Shaquille O'Neal:

"You did okay, but MJ did most of the work"

"Remember I WAS BATMAN YOU WAS ROBIN , I was PUFFY YOU WAS MASE"

"See what happens when Michael Jordan ain't protecting you, you lose a 17 pt lead in the fourth quarter." (referring to 2000 WCF Game 7)



Bill Laimbeer:


"We didn't even think about Scottie Pippen. It was Michael Jordan and the Jordannaires - and you can't win championships like that with only 1 player."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h07m33s



JERRY KRAUSE, Bulls GM:


“Would Pippen have been great someplace else?

Michael absolutely killed Scottie in practice every day for his first two years. Mike just tore Pip up. He made Pip learn how to compete and forced him into playing hard. Had there not been someone to challenge Scottie like that, I’m not sure what would’ve happened to him... No, Michael made him a man.

Michael made him a man and Doug [Collins] did a great job with him in his first year. And he - Collins - had Michael to beat on him for a year every day in practice and Michael beat him to death."

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5453558



Bill Laimbeer:


"The Jordan Rules were to just stop him, because no one else could beat you on that ballclub"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs&t=1m22s



Chuck Daly:


"It doesn't entail me playing you necessarily... it's our 5.... playing... you."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCMWuCdsGQ&t=27m41s



Chuck Daly:


"We knew how dangerous he was and we knew going into the playoffs that we had to do something special.. So we most definitely devised what we called "the Jordan Rules""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=22m49s



Phil Jackson:


"Don't leave Michael all alone here. It's not TIME yet."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s

This was Phil Jackson during a huddle in the 1991 NBA Finals, showing how the everyday game plan was to leave Michael alone and let him do everything down the stretch of games.



Dumars and Isiah:


"Isiah said he sat out by the water for 4-5 hours (thinking about MJ)".

"Dumars and i were on the phone for hours, talking about 23 in red."

"Isiah called me at 3 in the morning and said 'I think i finally figured out a way to stop MJ"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h05m33s

This was Dumars' and Isiah's reaction to the Bulls taking 2-1 series lead in 1989 ECF after MJ hit GW over Rodman.. The last quote is from assistant coach Brendan Malone, who said that Isiah called at 3 am to talk about stopping MJ.




Reporter Pat O'Brien in 1989, confirming that Chuck Daly's championship defense was about stopping 1 guy via the "Jordan Rules":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs&t=3m27s




Horace Grant:


"If it wasn't for MJ, I don't think I'd be sitting here right now. I mean, would've had a decent career, but for a leader like that to lead you to 3 championships..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_aYOQVWSCY&t=14m44s


Scottie Pippen:


"It was the pressure. As the pressure grew, the pounding grew. I wasn't able to answer the bell."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h22m15s

This was Pippen in the Bad Boys documentary ADMITTING he the pressure caused him to disappear in 1990 ECF Game 7 - this cost the Bulls a trip to the Finals and the ring - (Bulls would've beaten Blazers - Blazers were blown away by Pistons in 5 easy games, while Bulls took Pistons 7 tough games).


WOAT 2nd option help



1988 PLAYOFFS:. 10.0 on 46.5%
1989 PLAYOFFS:. 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF. vs. DET:. 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:. 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:. 21.7 on 40.5% (worst-ever 1st option w/ goat choke)

1995 ECSF vs ORL:. 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:. 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:. 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:. 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF. vs. MIA:. 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECFS vsN IND:. 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:. 15.7 on 41.0%


Pippen's stats in 96-98 Playoffs - 17 on 40%[/size]

[3ball]

Wade averaged 15ppg in the 2013 Playoffs

Jordan never won with his second option averaging below 16 ppg in any of his championship runs
Lebron needed a 20 ppg sidekick to win the Finals

No one cares how he did in the weak East

Otoh, MJ won 2 Finals with a 15 ppg sidekick

[bigkingsfan]

That sidekick outscored the opposing 2nd option in 5/6 series.

[paksat]

Bruh the title says WADE so what are you blabbering on about :rant

the only reason this thread exists is to make it look like lbj had no help

this isn't even debatable

OP couldn't give a flying fck about wade

[3ball]

.
Facts about Lebron's stat-padding in 14' Finals


Games 3-4-5
Lebron scored 51 of his 81 points (63%) being down 15+


Game 3
Lebron had 14 points and 0 TO in first quarter- but for the last 3 quarters, he had 8 points and 7 TOs, while Wade 20 points and 3 TOs . The Heat cut the lead from 15 to 9 without LeBron, after Wade subbed in for him, from the 5:00 to 1:00 mark of the 3rd quarter, but even with that help LeBron still lost.

Game 4
Lebron had 9 points in first half and the Heat were blown out by 19 at halftime. He padded his stats from there, and he did not score on Leonard in the first half.

Game 5
Lebron had 1 FG in 2nd quarter (2:30 mark) to bring the Heat within 5. Then he did not score again until the Heat were down 21 with 4:40 in the 3rd. LeBron shot 1-6 against Leonard this game.

[3ball]

.
Wadek 14' ECF:. 19.8 on 55%
Pippen 98' ECF:. 16.6 on 39%


Wade was lights out in the ECF against the #1 defense and only played bad in the Finals because the whole team was getting outplayed - this included lebron, who played worse than Wade when the games were being contested (see stats in previous post)

[SouBeachTalents]

.
Wadek 14' ECF:. 19.8 on 55%
Pippen 98' ECF:. 16.6 on 39%


Wade was lights out in the ECF against the #1 defense and only played bad in the Finals because the whole team was getting outplayed - this included lebron, who played worse than Wade when the games were being contested (see stats in previous post)
19.8 ppg is "lights out" :lol

[RealSkipBayless]

I wish kblaze would perma ban you and all your alts

you guys literally don't even talk basketball... ever

it's just lbj this lbj that, excuses for lbj this, excuses for lbj that

your boy can't even put an all star squad together when he gets to put together the TEAM and his own COACH ALL HAND PICKED
Kid would probably off himself if he was banned on all accounts. If someone has 10+ accounts with THOUSANDS of posts each, rehashing the same narratives for attention.. it

[3ball]

19.8 ppg is "lights out" :lol
Lebron only averaged 22 ppg that series

And 55% is lights out

Wade played great in those ECF and the whole "he's banged up" narrative was an excuse to cover the Finals embarrassment.. that narrative appeared out of thin air when the heat started losing that series

Any other star would be crucified for losing like lebron did and being taught a bball lesson by old dudes (even money odds, 3 HOF teammates/equal talent)

but the media protected lebron BIG-TIME after that loss .. people never mention it any more because the media did such a good protecting him - the Wade narrative was part of it, while also hiding the stat-padding facts

it's pathetic, but that's why everyone was shocked when he couldn't handle the West this year - you guys have been ignoring the facts for years... :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Lebron Lebron LeBron
you guys have been ignoring the facts for years... :oldlol:

Actually you have bruh

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqR9sXnB/hjklhjkl.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8k9R9v5Q/bronstaywinning.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Pf6NQPdB/Playoff_Leaders_NBA_hx.jpg

5900 points?

https://i.postimg.cc/tRMMH6ym/tenor.gif


The fam always eats
https://i.postimg.cc/kgG9VqRY/source.gif

[Smoke117]

19.8 ppg is "lights out" :lol

The fact that he keeps bringing up 98 with no context is what makes him such a clown. He always like to bring up Pippen's scoring in the 98 finals with no context. In the first four games which got bulls up 3-1 Pippen was averaging: 20.0ppg. He scored 28, 21, and 21 in three of those four games. The other game where he only had 10 points (on 50%fg) was the game where they demolished the Jazz 96-54. He shot over 50% in all three of their wins. More importantly, he absolutely dominated the Jazz on the defensive end. After that game where Jazz only scored 54 points Phil called him a "one man wrecking crew". He was getting FMVP talk after their game 4 win that put them up 3-1. He then would of course hurt his back in game 5 and barely be able to do anything in game 6. It's crazy how he's so in love with Jordan that he can't even give any kind of respect to someone else on the Bulls. This isn't tennis. Nobody does it alone.

[3ball]

The fact that he keeps bringing up 98 with no context is what makes him such a clown. He always like to bring up Pippen's scoring in the 98 finals with no context. In the first four games which got bulls up 3-1 Pippen was averaging: 20.0ppg. He scored 28, 21, and 21 in three of those four games. The other game where he only had 10 points (on 50%fg) was the game where they demolished the Jazz 96-54. He shot over 50% in all three of their wins. More importantly, he absolutely dominated the Jazz on the defensive end. After that game where Jazz only scored 54 points Phil called him a "one man wrecking crew". He was getting FMVP talk after their game 4 win that put them up 3-1. He then would of course hurt his back in game 5 and barely be able to do anything in game 6. It's crazy how he's so in love with Jordan that he can't even give any kind of respect to someone else on the Bulls. This isn't tennis. Nobody does it alone.
I didn't mention Pippen's 98' Finals - you did

I mentioned the 14' ECF to show that Wade was fine

Wade played great in those ECF and the whole "he's banged up" narrative was an excuse to cover the Finals embarrassment.. that narrative appeared out of thin air when the heat started losing that series

Any other star would be crucified for losing like lebron did and being taught a bball lesson by old dudes (even money odds, 3 HOF teammates/equal talent)

but the media protected lebron BIG-TIME after that loss .. people never mention it any more because the media did such a good protecting him - the Wade narrative was part of it, while also hiding the stat-padding facts

it's pathetic, but that's why everyone was shocked when he couldn't handle the West this year - you guys have been ignoring the facts for years... :oldlol:

[Dray n Klay]

I didn't mention Pippen's 98' Finals - you did

I mentioned the 14' ECF to show that Wade was fine

Wade played great in those ECF and the whole "he's banged up" narrative was an excuse to cover the Finals embarrassment.. that narrative appeared out of thin air when the heat started losing that series

Any other star would be crucified for losing like lebron did and being taught a bball lesson by old dudes (even money odds, 3 HOF teammates/equal talent)

but the media protected lebron BIG-TIME after that loss .. people never mention it any more because the media did such a good protecting him - the Wade narrative was part of it, while also hiding the stat-padding facts

it's pathetic, but that's why everyone was shocked when he couldn't handle the West this year - you guys have been ignoring the facts for years... :oldlol:


4 rebounds and 2 assists

[tpols]

the whole cHeat team quit that year game 3 onwards... and got tidal waved by a star-less spurs team.

and then bran team hopped...again.

[3ball]

4 rebounds and 2 assists
Goat scoring (38% of team pts).. goat clutch (50% of 4th quarter pts when on the floor)

And MJ was a shooting guard, so 4 and 2 is fine... Similar to kawhi.. 98' MJ was a better version of kawhi