FMVP playoff run with 100 and below DRtg?!

[TheCorporation]

Who had the most defensive impact among non centers for an entire playoff run? These results show who is the better defensive player in the playoffs.

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1
Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 6 :(

AGAIN, can we PLEASE stop saying Jordan was something special on defense? Dude was 0 for 6.

[3ball]

L. Bird Drtg - 102
Pippen Drtg - 103

Everyone knows drtg counts steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, which is why Bird has better drtg than pippen

It's a weak measure of defense - eye test, net efficiency and other measures are far better

[TheCorporation]

L. Bird Drtg - 102
Pippen Drtg - 103

Everyone knows drtg counts steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, which is why Bird has better drtg than pippen

It's a weak measure of defense - eye test is better


But you lied so

https://i.postimg.cc/XqRCt132/3ball_lies.png

Are you just making numbers up? :lol

LeBron is a better defensive player. 100% better.

[Bronbron23]

Who had the most defensive impact among non centers for an entire playoff run? These results show who is the better defensive player in the playoffs.

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1
Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) for 6

AGAIN, can we PLEASE stop saying Jordan was something special on defense? Dude was 0 for 6.
Drtg is a horrible measure of defence. According to drtg jj Reddick was one of the best defenders in the league this year

[Vino24]

Drtg is a horrible measure of defence. According to drtg jj Reddick was one of the best defenders in the league this year
better than Kyrie

[3ball]

But you lied so

https://i.postimg.cc/XqRCt132/3ball_lies.png

Are you just making numbers up? :lol

LeBron is a better defensive player. 100% better.
Those are playoff numbers - bird has better regular season drtg and dbpm than pippen because those stats favor defensive rebounders

Everyone knows drtg counts steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, which is why Bird has better drtg than pippen

It's a weak measure of defense - eye test, net efficiency and other measures are far better

Another dumb thread by a dummy

[TheCorporation]

Drtg is a horrible measure of defence. According to drtg jj Reddick was one of the best defenders in the league this year

First off I'm talking PLAYOFFS

Yes we know regular season Westbrick bla bla bla

PLAYOFFS doe

Also, no you're wrong he is a 115 this season that's terrible.
And in the playoffs he has been a 113


What are you even saying? :lol

[TheCorporation]

Those are playoff numbers - bird has better regular season drtg and dbpm than pippen because those stats favor defensive rebounders

Everyone knows drtg counts steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, which is why Bird has better drtg than pippen

It's a weak measure of defense - eye test, net efficiency and other measures are far better

Another dumb thread by a dummy

So why does Kawhi and Draymond have really low DRtg during their DPOY years?

Just a coincidence? :lol

ANOTHER DAY :banana:

ANOTHER WIN :banana:

[SpaceJam2]

Billups in 2004 as well


But NO Jordan :lol

[3ball]

Billups in 2004 as well


But NO Jordan :lol
BOOM

that just killed your argument

:oldlol:.. y'all dumb

[Bronbron23]

better than Kyrie
Sure I guess but what does that mean?

[SpaceJam2]

BOOM

that just killed your argument

:oldlol:.. y'all dumb


0 for 6 :(

Damn MJ what is you doing baby

[3ball]

0 for 6 :(

Damn MJ what is you doing baby
Lebron is 0-9 (no rings or Finals as scoring champ)

Infact, all perimeter players are 0-fer in this category - only MJ was good enough to fit league-best scoring into a championship framework

[And1AllDay]

Lebron is 0-9 (no rings or Finals as scoring champ)

Infact, all perimeter players are 0-fer in this category - only MJ was good enough to fit league-best scoring into a championship framework

Why do you lie about Mikes defense when he was just okay in the playoff

[warriorfan]

Op

[And1AllDay]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Op

[TheCorporation]

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1
Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 6 :(

Can we stop saying Jordan was something special on defense? Dude was 0 for 6.

These are the facts: LeBron is a better defensive player

[SpaceJam2]

Who had the most defensive impact among non centers for an entire playoff run? These results show who is the better defensive player in the playoffs.

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1
Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 6 :(

AGAIN, can we PLEASE stop saying Jordan was something special on defense? Dude was 0 for 6.


NE ONE?

MJ never did this? He had six chances though :biggums:

[TheCorporation]

Update after 2019 Finals

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1

Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 6

*Kawhi was close but not quite on LeBron's championship defensive level

2014 he was a 101
2019 he was a 103

Close, but no 100 or below. Maybe next year he can get it? :confusedshrug:

[Brasileiro]

Update after 2019 Finals

100 and below DRtg club among FMVP winners:

LeBron x2 (2012, 2016) 2 for 3
Wade x1 (2006) 1 for 1

Kobe x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 2
Jordan x0 (zero occurrences) 0 for 6

*Kawhi was close but not quite on LeBron's championship defensive level

2014 he was a 101
2019 he was a 103

Close, but no 100 or below. Maybe next year he can get it? :confusedshrug:

How was Bran’s DRtg this year bro?

[light]

L. Bird Drtg - 102
Pippen Drtg - 103

Everyone knows drtg counts steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, which is why Bird has better drtg than pippen

It's a weak measure of defense - eye test, net efficiency and other measures are far better

Defensive rebounds are as much a valid defensive statistic as blocks or steals. It is how you close out a defensive possession. If you don't get the defensive rebound their offense may have endless opportunities to score - the shot clock resetting every time.

"No rebounds, no rings" is essentially the same thing as saying, "Defense wins championships."