MJ or LBJ to start a team. Tracy McGrady chooses LBJ

[SpaceJam2]

I have to go with LeBron. Because he elevates his teammates. If I'm starting a team, him being able to take lesser talent and elevate those guys. I'm going with LeBron. Absolutely. I'm gonna take LeBron James.

https://youtu.be/fAEy0RfAU40?t=64

[Gileraracer]

No wonder since he's used to not winning a ring

[SpaceJam2]

No wonder since he's used to not winning a ring

DeyKnow

ANOTHER ONE :banana:

[kennethgriffen]

https://i.ibb.co/NrLgfWW/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-4-57-43-AM.png

https://i.ibb.co/M8fN4Lb/tenor.gif

[SpaceJam2]

https://i.ibb.co/NrLgfWW/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-4-57-43-AM.png

https://i.ibb.co/M8fN4Lb/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/PJpf2RWJ/tenor.gif

[Spurs m8]

No one cares

[AintNoSunshine]

Of course, you are fielding a cast around the guy. Is a Phil Jackson harder to come by or a Spostra or a Tyronne Lue? Is a Scottie Pippen harder to come by or a scoring point guard who does little of anything else?

Bron is way easier to build a championship squad around. Not that's you can go wrong with either though. I'd be happy to build around MJ too:oldlol:

[Manny98]

https://media.giphy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/giphy.gif

[MrFonzworth]

https://i.postimg.cc/PJpf2RWJ/tenor.gif
:roll::roll::roll:

[kennethgriffen]

only simon alts laugh at simon jokes

https://i.ibb.co/MSB3nD0/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-7-45-06-AM.png

[ImKobe]

Lebron is overrated when it comes to "elevating talent". He's only proven to be able to do it in the weakest Conference in NBA history, and even then couldn't win anything without joining up with two top 5 players in the league (while losing to an ancient Mavs' squad). Most of the teammates he's played with had better seasons without him (Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, Korver Allen, Hood, Hill, IT, Rose, Shaq, Hickson, Williams etc) while Kobe and MJ got the best out of their teammates (Pippen, Grant, Kukoc, Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Fisher etc).

Give me guys that don't need to dominate the ball in order to win. Kobe, MJ, KD, Hakeem, Bird could play within a team concept and elevate their teammates on the offensive end while also being far superior on the defensive side.

Lebron never really won a title in a convincing fashion. Kobe, Jordan, Durant have all won titles while losing 1-2 games while Lebron needed at least one Game 7 in all of his runs. He doesn't have a '91 MJ, '01 Kobe or '17 KD type of a Playoff run to his name, where his team just runs over everyone. His highest assist average for a title run was 7.6, far from a Magic like people love to compare him to, he averaged 26 ppg in 2 out of his 3 titles and needed two bailout shots to barely win in those runs (Allen, Irving - he didn't set up either of those shots).

[brutalBBQ]

McGrady wouldn't know what a power stone feels like, let alone 6 to snap the fingers, LeGone is a dead villan, forgotten in the sequel.

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron is overrated when it comes to "elevating talent". He's only proven to be able to do it in the weakest Conference in NBA history, and even then couldn't win anything without joining up with two top 5 players in the league (while losing to an ancient Mavs' squad). Most of the teammates he's played with had better seasons without him (Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, Korver Allen, Hood, Hill, IT, Rose, Shaq, Hickson, Williams etc) while Kobe and MJ got the best out of their teammates (Pippen, Grant, Kukoc, Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Fisher etc).

Give me guys that don't need to dominate the ball in order to win. Kobe, MJ, KD, Hakeem, Bird could play within a team concept and elevate their teammates on the offensive end while also being far superior on the defensive side.

Lebron never really won a title in a convincing fashion. Kobe, Jordan, Durant have all won titles while losing 1-2 games while Lebron needed at least one Game 7 in all of his runs. He doesn't have a '91 MJ, '01 Kobe or '17 KD type of a Playoff run to his name, where his team just runs over everyone. His highest assist average for a title run was 7.6, far from a Magic like people love to compare him to, he averaged 26 ppg in 2 out of his 3 titles and needed two bailout shots to barely win in those runs (Allen, Irving - he didn't set up either of those shots).


Lol. Lebron before wade and Bosh still put his teams in position to win. See this question would be better if both players werent a result of their current rings. If you start from scratch, many people would take a younger( 18 year old) 6 8 250 pound power perimeter player that can mask his teams weaknesses.

I think MJ is better than lebron but if you want to compete make money and plug more holes. Lebron would be the player to build around.

[FKAri]

only simon alts laugh at simon jokes

https://i.ibb.co/MSB3nD0/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-7-45-06-AM.png
Add me to the list of alts baby boi.
You're also missing: Pauk, LebronJames23, bigkingsfan, and about 40 others.

[MrFonzworth]

only simon alts laugh at simon jokes

https://i.ibb.co/MSB3nD0/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-7-45-06-AM.png
Nah, EVERYONE laughs at you:no:

[brutalBBQ]

Of course, you are fielding a cast around the guy. Is a Phil Jackson harder to come by or a Spostra or a Tyronne Lue? Is a Scottie Pippen harder to come by or a scoring point guard who does little of anything else?

Bron is way easier to build a championship squad around. Not that's you can go wrong with either though. I'd be happy to build around MJ too:oldlol:

That's the difference though, specifically building a squad. MJ guided, the supervisor, sure there was an all time coach with Zen ability Swap Lue for PJ on that Cavs 2015 roster, same result?

[TheCorporation]

Add me to the list of alts baby boi.
You're also missing: Pauk, LebronJames23, bigkingsfan, and about 40 others.

If you like LeBron or diagree with Kenny you're an "alt" because it's much easier for him to think that hundreds of people are not proving him wrong it's just one!! :( :lol

Poor guy is in shambles

[DaHeezy]

I wonder what these same posters would say if MacGrady picked Jordan?

[bizil]

Due to Bron's positional versatility on both sides of the rock, he can indeed plug more holes than MJ. But the THING is that's the key reason. With his pass first nature being important in its own right. MJ was ALSO the total package of scoring, rebounding, defending, and passing his position. Position versatility wise, MJ could play and defend PG, SG, and SF at GREAT LEVELS! Most of today's elite PG's think more like MJ than they do Bron. The guys like Curry, Dame, Kyrie, Russ, Kemba, etc. are score first type of PG's.

So my point is IF people think Bron makes his teammates better than MJ, then that's fine. I can see that logic. BUT keep in mind that MJ ALSO played with Pip. Who was the INTIAL blueprint of the modern day point forward. Something Bron took to the pinnacle of the sport. So MJ DIDN'T have TO BE the dominant floor game for the Bulls to win.

BEFORE Pip came of age, MJ was averaging 30+PPG, 8+dimes, 8+boards a night. WITH DPOY world class defense! At this point, MJ knew how to make his teammates better! If people DON'T think MJ could have continued to put up those numbers IF HE NEEDED to, you are smoking crack!

So once again, Bron's POSITIONAL VERSATILIY and pass first nature are the main differences! BECAUSE before Bron, MJ could plug more holes than ANY PERIMETER PLAYER ever!! Bron just added the size to be able to play the PF and at times center position. Even Bird and Magic couldn't plug as many holes as MJ when u factor the defensive side of the floor!! Plugging holes entails being able to dominate your position scoring, passing, rebounding, and defensively. And from there being able to play different positions at a great level! The Greek Freak at 7'0 is the next one of this cloth!

[And1AllDay]

Another member of the DeyKnow club

https://media.giphy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/giphy.gif

[superduper]

Hey good job leaving out literally all of the context from Tmac's take. He was speaking more in terms of who he, as a scorer first, would like to play with. No shit he would pick the person who loves to defer to the clutch scorer on the team.

Bran stans at it once again with their blatant lies and fabrications :applause:

[SpaceJam2]

Another member of the DeyKnow club

https://media.giphy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/giphy.gif


Dey know

We know

:banana:

[ballinhun8]

Didn't click on the link but if this video isn't from 2019 or even 18 I swear to God you're just SPAMMING

[superduper]

Didn't click on the link but if this video isn't from 2019 or even 18 I swear to God you're just SPAMMING

It's a recent take but the Brannies left out all of the context (surprise surprise) from Tmac's take. He was speaking more in terms of who he, as a scorer first, would like to play with. No shit he would pick the person who loves to defer to the clutch scorer on the team.

Bran stans at it once again with their blatant lies and fabrications

[3ball]

That's an old video - it's before the latest record defeat and missed playoffs

And back then, the media was less aware that lebron employed a brand of ball designed to maximize his time with the ball

and reduces teammates to spot-up shooters so they aren't playing a high level of basketball with or without him

and uses up their prime before leaving so they look worse without him

But now that the West exposed lebron, the media is reconsidering things - they have no choice

[SpaceJam2]

That's an old video - it's before the latest record defeat and missed playoffs

And back then, the media was less aware that lebron employed a brand of ball designed to maximize his time with the ball

and reduces teammates to spot-up shooters so they aren't playing a high level of basketball with or without him

and uses up their prime before leaving so they look worse without him

But now that the West exposed lebron, the media is reconsidering things - they have no choice

Jordan was Westbrooking it with his 1-9 in the 1st round :lol

[tpols]

That's an old video - it's before the latest record defeat and missed playoffs

And back then, the media was less aware that lebron employed a brand of ball designed to maximize his time with the ball

and reduces teammates to spot-up shooters so they aren't playing a high level of basketball with or without him

and uses up their prime before leaving so they look worse without him

But now that the West exposed lebron, the media is reconsidering things - they have no choice


Im especially appalled at the audacity of lebron fans talking coaches... phil. When bran has once again demonstrated he wont let former white role players coach him. (riley, blatt, walton, phil etc) Hes got that racist subconcious that wont allow his ego to listen to or respect them. And is just one reason hes intangibly awful for any teams culture / long term outlook.

[egokiller]

Hey good job leaving out literally all of the context from Tmac's take. He was speaking more in terms of who he, as a scorer first, would like to play with. No shit he would pick the person who loves to defer to the clutch scorer on the team.

Bran stans at it once again with their blatant lies and fabrications :applause:

Tmac stans in 03 were always upset that Kobe was viewed as the more complete player to build a team around. Amazing offensive performance from Tmac that year, but much like Kyrie, lacking on the other side of the ball.