Magic > Lebron

[ImKobe]

We really need to hold off these Jordan talks and get serious here.

Both players benefited from playing in a weaker Conference, except Magic won over half of his Finals (5/9 vs 3/9). 5 rings & 3 MVPs are also better than 3 rings 4 MVPs. Both have the same number of FMVPs (3).

Championship runs

Magic
'80 - 18/11/9/3 59.6%TS
'82 - 17/11/9/3 61.4%TS
'85 - 18/7/15/2 59.9%TS
'87 - 22/8/12/2 60.7%TS
'88 - 20/5/13/1 60.0%TS

Lebron

'12 - 30/10/6/2 57.6%TS
'13 - 26/8/7/2 58.5%TS
'16 - 26/10/8/2 58.5%TS

Where's the argument for Lebron here? He wins less and his stats are worse. Magic's highest apg in a title run is twice as high as someone's who's supposed to be just as good at it? Please. And Magic could score in the high teens/low 20s on higher efficiency. Magic also carried the Lakers to a road win in a close-out Finals game with Kareem injured, putting up 42/15/7/3 on over 60% shooting. Magic is responsible for saving the NBA when it was at it's lowest and ran the greatest offenses in NBA history. 9 Finals and 5 titles in a span of 12 seasons.

[paksat]

I've been saying this for ages, magic is a way wayyyy better passer than lbj and both their games are very very similar in what they try to accomplish

magic is wayyy better at pushing the ball as well

shooting they're even maybe lbj is slightly ahead

lbj don't even play near what MJ does, the only reason his stans try to compare to mj is because lbj so wants to be the GOAT

[FKAri]

As a big Magic fan...lol, jk I've always hated that phaggit. Bird, Lebron easily >

The way he quit this season was perfectly in line with who he is.

[k0kakw0rld]

:sleeping

[Manny98]

LeBron is a 100x better scorer and defender and slightly worse passer

All Magic has over LeBron is passing lol and barely

How on earth does Magic have better numbers you moron LeBron has almost a 10ppg up on Magic with equal efficiency

Try better

[kennethgriffen]

:sleeping

agreed... this thread needs more siakam/giannis comparisons

you go first

[Gileraracer]

LeBron is a 100x better scorer and defender and slightly worse passer



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[sportjames23]

As a big Magic fan...lol, jk I've always hated that phaggit. Bird, Lebron easily >

The way he quit this season was perfectly in line with who he is.

*pimpslaps this bitch*

Boy, don't you ever disrespect Magic again. I'll take a cue ball upside your head next time.:mad:

[sportjames23]

LeBron is a 100x better scorer and defender and slightly worse passer

All Magic has over LeBron is passing lol and barely

How on earth does Magic have better numbers you moron LeBron has almost a 10ppg up on Magic with equal efficiency

Try better

Boy, you 'bout 2 seconds from getting your ass beat. :mad:

[SpaceJam2]

If we are really getting serious you should be comparing Jordan to Magic, LeBron is the one with all the records and the clear number one all time.

There is no more debate.

LeBron has made more game-winners on better efficiency. He faced much tougher competition, he scored more points on less shots, and put up better stats on every level.

Defensively, LBJ ranks above Jordan and considerably above Magic. Honestly, compare Jordan and Magic they are closer than LeBron and Jordan.

[FKAri]

*pimpslaps this bitch*

Boy, don't you ever disrespect Magic again. I'll take a cue ball upside your head next time.:mad:
Magic is what we in the industry call, eerily homosexual. A phaggit who is continuously gyrating around any person, place or thing which can be described with a male pronoun. Part incubus. Part succubus. Literally raping men with his ass hole because of his supernatural ability to take it in the ass, flaccid. Despite his gargantuan homosexual aura, he is a coward who never came out of the closet publicly even after Jason Collins opened the door for him. His cowardice is the only reason why I don't stay up at nights worrying about him running me down ass first.

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron is a 100x better scorer and defender and slightly worse passer

All Magic has over LeBron is passing lol and barely

How on earth does Magic have better numbers you moron LeBron has almost a 10ppg up on Magic with equal efficiency

Try better

These guys need to be careful, LeBron is already ahead of Jordan, if anything Jordan should be compared to Magic he's not on LeBron's level and that's just facts.

LBJ = Top PER, WS, WS/48, VORP, DRtg runs

[Hey Yo]

I've been saying this for ages, magic is a way wayyyy better passer than lbj and both their games are very very similar in what they try to accomplish

magic is wayyy better at pushing the ball as well

shooting they're even maybe lbj is slightly ahead

lbj don't even play near what MJ does, the only reason his stans try to compare to mj is because lbj so wants to be the GOAT
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congratulations on never seeing Magic play

[SouBeachTalents]

They

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]They

[TheCorporation]

NBA's top 10 highest WS/48 among the playoffs.

NBA's Top 10 Best Playoff WS/48 (14 game minimum)

1. LeBron - .388 (14 games, 2009)
2. Jordan - .333 (17 games, 1991)
3. Jordan - .306 (18 games, 1996)
4. Kareem - .297 (16 games, 1974)
5. LeBron - .284 (23 games, 2012)
6. Jordan - .284 (17 games, 1990)
7. Durant - .280 (15 games, 2017)
8. Duncan - .279 (24 games, 2003)
9. J. West - .278 (15 games 1968)
10. LeBron - .275 (18 games, 2017)


*Bests that did not make the top 10 list:
*Bold notes still active
J. West -.274 (18 games, 1969)
LeBron - .274 (21 games, 2016)
Curry - .272 (17 games, 2017)
Kareem - .271 (14 games, 1971)
Jordan - .270 (17 games, 1989)
Magic - .267 (14 games, 1986) ** Not even top 10 one time :lol

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No one else is even close, MJ is the #2 but still a distant #2


This feels like its 2016 when LeBron lead all players in all major statistical categories. Only this time he's doing it against Jordan :eek:

LeBron shoots a better percentage from 2
LeBron shoots a better percentage from 3
He has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS%
He has a better AST%, TRB%, BPG%, and a lower USG%

MJ scores more points, but also has a higher USG% and a higher FT%

With advanced metrics, both in the regular season and playoffs, it gets even worse for Jordan

https://i.postimg.cc/52mBwW6h/LBJ-vs-MJ-complete.png

LeBron leads MJ in: Win Shares, TS%, TRB%, AST%, BLK%, OWS, DWS, OBPM, DBPM, BPM, VORP

MJ leads in: FT%, and STL%

LeBron also has slightly more turnovers, but a better assist-to-turnover ratio, so boom roasted there too:

https://i.postimg.cc/dtxCbRZN/a2toratio.png

It's just not. even. close. And some have been fooled for a long time, but not I.

https://i.postimg.cc/0jKSQL7M/LeBron_1st.png

Can we please stop thinking Jordan is better now? LeBron crushes him in almost every category and if you look at total playoff stats it's a LANDSLIDE victory, with nearly 1000 more points and double the rebounds.

[ArbitraryWater]

not just did OP fail at the relevant data comparison, he also showed LeBron was better in what he cherry-picked.

Thx.

2009, 2017 and 2018 LeBron are by far better than Magic ever was, btw.

[paksat]

:applause:

congratulations on never seeing Magic play

lbj can't make these passes

lbj can't make his teammates this good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI&t=330s

[And1AllDay]

not just did OP fail at the relevant data comparison, he also showed LeBron was better in what he cherry-picked.

Thx.

2009, 2017 and 2018 LeBron are by far better than Magic ever was, btw.

Peak of bball excellence not a doubt about it no one is near that level

[paksat]

not just did OP fail at the relevant data comparison, he also showed LeBron was better in what he cherry-picked.

Thx.

2009, 2017 and 2018 LeBron are by far better than Magic ever was, btw.

we post highlights

ya'll post stats

no one cares about a no defense league where teams are scoring 140 on certain nights and every jimmy and joe goes for 50

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empty :lol

[Bankaii]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]They

[Bankaii]

we post highlights

ya'll post stats

no one cares about a no defense league where teams are scoring 140 on certain nights and every jimmy and joe goes for 50

empty

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empty :lol
The OP is literally nothing but stats:oldlol:
And you posted a mixtape lmao, dumbass

[And1AllDay]

The OP is literally nothing but stats dumbass

Pakass has a smole brain :oldlol: :roll: Gotta forgive him he hasnt seen a bball game in 10 years

[ArbitraryWater]

Peak of bball excellence not a doubt about it no one is near that level

for sure


we post highlights

nice going :lol :hammerhead:

[paksat]

Pakass has a smole brain :oldlol: :roll: Gotta forgive him he hasnt seen a bball game in 10 years

I've been watching the playoffs, last nights houston 3 point shoot out contest got old after an hour

but hey, if you children get your cawks hard watching this sad shit all the more for you :roll:


btw, if houston knocks gsw out what does that say about l39ron james? I thought this was the greatest team of allllll time?

3ball the other day said an average 90s team would beat them. I don't know if i'd go that far but this team is not even close to some unstoppable juggernaught

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[ArbitraryWater]

I've been watching the playoffs, last nights houston 3 point shoot out contest got old after an hour

but hey, if you children get your cawks hard watching this sad shit all the more for you :roll:


btw, if houston knocks gsw out what does that say about l39ron james? I thought this was the greatest team of allllll time?

3ball the other day said an average 90s team would beat them. I don't know if i'd go that far but this team is not even close to some unstoppable juggernaught

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You're embarrassing.


Start acting your age.

[bigkingsfan]

Kobe is 156th all time in postseason TS

[Hey Yo]

lbj can't make these passes

lbj can't make his teammates this good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI&t=330s
:rolleyes:

Who did Magic make better? Which pro's were mediocre to average on a team(s) before Magic, but then got to the Lakers and they instantly improved to the point it was quite noticeable?? Or just the opposite, who was great with Magic, but then went straight into the shitter after leaving the Lakers??

[LeCola]

5 rings in 12 years vs 3 rings in 16+ years

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Magic might be the better "leader", but I'd still go Lebron.

More skilled. Better scorer and defender obviously.

The only players I would take over prime Lebron are Jordan/Bird/Shaq/Kareem in their primes.

Like most on here, I never saw Wilt or Russell. So just speaking on what I watched.

[SouBeachTalents]

Magic might be the better "leader", but I'd still take Lebron.

More skilled. Better scorer and defender obviously.

The only players I would take over prime Lebron are Jordan/Bird/Shaq/Kareem in their primes.

Like most on here, I never saw Wilt or Russell. So just speaking on what I watched.
What about Hakeem?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What about Hakeem?

Hakeem had a great 93-95ish run BUT those guys had longer, memorable primes imo.

Wouldn't argue with anyone throwing him in there tho. Hakeem's 3 years were pure dominance.

[SpaceJam2]

What about Hakeem?

Hakeem has 8x 1st round exits...

Not a typo

[paksat]

You're embarrassing.


Start acting your age.

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