Lebron is a defrauding scoundrel that hustled his fans/media

[3ball]

From 2001-2009, five weak teams won the East (AI, Kidd twice, Lebron, Dwight)

the weak conference made it easy to go deep in the playoffs (play more games), which inflated lebron's playoff totals early in his career - then he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in this same weak conference

So he cheated his comp and the career totals of past greats by creating an unfair competitive environment - stacking the deck to accumulate stats against weak comp - the "spirit" of what he did was blatant cheating in plain view.. this kind of competitive AVOIDANCE could never be goat, or even top 5 (he's not in my top 10)

Ultimately, his inflated resume overrated him, which led to shock when the West exposed him this year. He doesn't deserve to play another playoff game

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine being a 10 time scoring champion and LeBron James has a thousand more points than you and he's not even known for his scoring.

Imagine being 1 for 10 until Scottie Pippen saves your legacy. BAIL OUT

Imagine still losing to the Detroit Pistons three years in a row after Scottie Pippen.

Imagine being a career loser to your three biggest competitors: Bird, Thomas, Olajuwon

Imagine only making 6 Finals

Imagine having the 2nd and 4th worst field goal percentage for a FMVP (was #1 worst before Chuckbe)

Imagine getting outplayed by Shawn Kemp in the Finals but still winning

Imagine having a teammate (Pippen) get more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than you for your entire playoffs runs

Imagine having your best finals opponent still worse than the weakest team LeBron ever faced.

Imagine not knowing which was your best Finals win because they were all very sad opponents.

Should I continue?

[3ball]

Imagine being a 10 time scoring champion and LeBron James has a thousand more points than you and he's not even known for his scoring.

Imagine being 1 for 10 until Scottie Pippen saves your legacy. BAIL OUT

Imagine still losing to the Detroit Pistons three years in a row after Scottie Pippen.

Imagine being a career loser to your three biggest competitors: Bird, Thomas, Olajuwon

Imagine only making 6 Finals

Imagine having the 2nd and 4th worst field goal percentage for a FMVP (was #1 worst before Chuckbe)

Imagine getting outplayed by Shawn Kemp in the Finals but still winning

Imagine having a teammate (Pippen) get more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than you for your entire playoffs runs

Imagine having your best finals opponent still worse than the weakest team LeBron ever faced.

Imagine not knowing which was your best Finals win because they were all very sad opponents.

Should I continue?
Not unless you're going to respond to the OP, or concede that you can't

In the meantime, I'm going to respond to yours - most of it was answered in the OP

[Vino24]

Wallace Pistons, Big 3 Celtics. "weak east" **** out of here.

[Dray n Klay]

Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games


LeBron MISSED the playoffs winning 42 games in 2005


So Jordan played in a weaker conference, and STILL went 1-9 :eek:



Yikes

[SpaceJam2]

Not unless you're going to respond to the OP, or concede that you can't

In the meantime, I'm going to respond to yours - most of it was answered in the OP
Imagine being #1 in every playoff category until LeBron James passed you up and is now #1in every category

Imagine never having a single postseason run with a DRtg under 101 (LeBron has TWO)

Imagine leaving your team and the next year they only drop off by 2 wins ('93 = 57 wins to '94 = 55 wins)

Should I continue?

[SpaceJam2]

Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games


LeBron MISSED the playoffs winning 42 games in 2005


So Jordan played in a weaker conference, and STILL went 1-9 :eek:



Yikes

:applause:

Boom

[SpaceJam2]

Wallace Pistons, Big 3 Celtics. "weak east" **** out of here.

:rockon:

Big facts

[egokiller]

Why are bronsexuals so upset by the fact that MJ had to go through 20 teams that were 50+ wins in the post season while he only had to go through 13 in the same number of post seasons?

A shitty 3/9 finals record despite showing up to the finals on fresh legs each appearance compared to their rival showing up on weak legs.

Comical at best.

Then to top it off, 2 of those finals series wins required shots from Allen and Kyrie because LeBron is such shit at making a finals shot when it matters most. 0/5

Only a beta would put their team in position to be in a game 7 in the first place. A real alpha ends the shit in 6 games or less. :applause:

[kennethgriffen]

https://i.ibb.co/8zXqkh8/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-1-47-17-PM.png

its like clockwork

[Ben Simmons 25]

kenneth I hope you get hit by a bus

[Vino24]

https://i.ibb.co/8zXqkh8/Screen-Shot-2019-05-07-at-1-47-17-PM.png

its like clockwork
imagine posting in threads where you can only see your own posts. nice life :oldlol:

[SpaceJam2]

imagine posting in threads where you can only see your own posts. nice life :oldlol:

He is definitley still reading them too :lol

[egokiller]

imagine posting in threads where you can only see your own posts. nice life :oldlol:

Imagine posting this not realize that kenny can see mine and 3ball's posts which are the only posts in this thread worth seeing.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Imagine posting this not realize that kenny can see mine and 3ball's posts which are the only posts in this thread worth seeing.

You two have the only posts NOT worth seeing, ironically enough.

[kennethgriffen]

Imagine posting this not realize that kenny can see mine and 3ball's posts which are the only posts in this thread worth seeing.


yeah this place is way better now

[SpaceJam2]

You two have the only posts NOT worth seeing, ironically enough.

:lol :lol:applause:

[DaHeezy]

So being a degenerate gambler who has unpaid gambling debt is not a scoundrel?

Good to know

[DaHeezy]

I've posted quite a few times on here that players owe NOTHING to fans except put it out on the court and try and produce a good product. They do not owe fans any loyalty. Loyalty is never reciprocated if results aren't fulfilled (See Westbrook)

I do however see athletes are intended to be role models in how they conduct themselves in the public's eye. Ironic that OP calls Lebron a scoundrel when Jordan was littered with unethical habits. He was an extreme asshole in public and to teammates. Yet he isn't considered a "scoundrel"?

OP has a real warped sense ethicality

[And1AllDay]

Imagine being a 10 time scoring champion and LeBron James has a thousand more points than you and he's not even known for his scoring.

Imagine being 1 for 10 until Scottie Pippen saves your legacy. BAIL OUT

Imagine still losing to the Detroit Pistons three years in a row after Scottie Pippen.

Imagine being a career loser to your three biggest competitors: Bird, Thomas, Olajuwon

Imagine only making 6 Finals

Imagine having the 2nd and 4th worst field goal percentage for a FMVP (was #1 worst before Chuckbe)

Imagine getting outplayed by Shawn Kemp in the Finals but still winning

Imagine having a teammate (Pippen) get more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than you for your entire playoffs runs

Imagine having your best finals opponent still worse than the weakest team LeBron ever faced.

Imagine not knowing which was your best Finals win because they were all very sad opponents.

Should I continue?



Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games


LeBron MISSED the playoffs winning 42 games in 2005


So Jordan played in a weaker conference, and STILL went 1-9 :eek:



Yikes



Imagine being #1 in every playoff category until LeBron James passed you up and is now #1in every category

Imagine never having a single postseason run with a DRtg under 101 (LeBron has TWO)

Imagine leaving your team and the next year they only drop off by 2 wins ('93 = 57 wins to '94 = 55 wins)

Should I continue?

:eek: :eek:

[And1AllDay]

I've posted quite a few times on here that players owe NOTHING to fans except put it out on the court and try and produce a good product. They do not owe fans any loyalty. Loyalty is never reciprocated if results aren't fulfilled (See Westbrook)

I do however see athletes are intended to be role models in how they conduct themselves in the public's eye. Ironic that OP calls Lebron a scoundrel when Jordan was littered with unethical habits. He was an extreme asshole in public and to teammates. Yet he isn't considered a "scoundrel"?

OP has a real warped sense ethicality

Youtube dunk highlights of Mike Jordan has his mind warped to a point we dont know if he can ever come back from :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0G18VkBYupF9ja36/giphy.gif

:oldlol:

[3ball]

So being a degenerate gambler who has unpaid gambling debt is not a scoundrel?

Good to know


Not basketball-related

MJ didn't cheat media and fans about his basketball resume

You guys are ******* for caring what these guys do off the court.. #staysoft

[3ball]

Imagine having a teammate (Pippen) get more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than you for your entire playoffs runs


False

JORDAN 88-98' PLAYOFFS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1998-sum:playoffs_totals):. 953 assists.. 352 steals.. 5632 points
PIPPEN. 88-98' PLAYOFFS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1988-1998-sum:playoffs_totals):. 874 assists.. 320 steals.. 3189 points


^^^ excludes Pippen's 1994





Imagine getting outplayed by Shawn Kemp in the Finals but still winning


Except he wasn't, whereas it's consensus that lebron got outplayed by Dirk or Jason Terry (11'), Tony Parker (07'), Durant (17' and 18'), and Kawhi (14')...





Imagine being 1 for 10 until Scottie Pippen saves your legacy. BAIL OUT


Lebron would still be in Cleveland losing to Dwight and 35-year old Garnett if Wade/Bosh and Kyrie/Love hadn't saved him

Lebron needed 6 all-stars to win 3 rings, versus 1 all-star to win 6 for MJ.. :bowdown:





Imagine still losing to the Detroit Pistons three years in a row after Scottie Pippen.


As a big underdog, so nobody knocks MJ for it... Whereas lebron lost as the favorite 3 times (09-11'), and even money once (14')

And by record amount in 14', 17' and 18' (much worse than the odds predicted).. and the GOAT choke (11')





Imagine being a career loser to your three biggest competitors: Bird, Thomas, Olajuwon


Lebron is a career loser to all competitors - only 3 rings in 16 seasons versus 6 in 15 for MJ

And MJ had a winning record against everyone when he had an all-star teammate - he's the winningest player with an all-star (6-2 versus 3-7 for Bron... :eek: :eek: )





Imagine only making 6 Finals


Lebron played in a weak conference that didn't require good teams to make the Finals (AI, Kidd, Dwight made it until Bron stacked the deck from 11-18' in this weak conference)

And MJ's 6 rings is the goat championship frequency post 60's:.. 6/15 or 40%

Now imagine losing 6 championships and only winning 3...





Imagine having the 2nd and 4th worst field goal percentage for a FMVP (was #1 worst before Chuckbe)


Lebron won with the worst true shooting compared to MJ - 52.9% in 2013 Finals

True shooting is the shooting efficiency measure, not FG %

He also won that series by 1) being a net negative... 2) averaging 16 on 39% thru 3 games and 23 on 43% thru 6 games... 3) having a teammate hit the big shot





Imagine having your best finals opponent still worse than the weakest team LeBron ever faced.


The 15' Warriors would've lost if Kyrie was healthy.... or Love

So the pre-durant Warriors weren't championship caliber and just a regular season team - every Finals team MJ faced was better than them





Imagine never having a single postseason run with a DRtg under 101 (LeBron has TWO)


Imagine having no Finals runs with less than 3.0 turnovers per game.. MJ has 5

And drtg favors defensive rebounders (it simply counts drebs, stl, blk), which is why Bird has better drtg and dbpm than pip in regular season, and nearly equal in playoffs




Imagine leaving your team and the next year they only drop off by 2 wins ('93 = 57 wins to '94 = 55 wins)


Imagine employing a brand of ball that is designed to maximize your time with the ball

and reduces teammates to spot-up shooters so they aren't playing a high level of basketball with or without you

And using up their prime before leaving so they look worse without you





Imagine being a 10 time scoring champion and LeBron James has a thousand more points


MJ was capable of scoring much more per game, while lebron simply played longer

This is common knowledge, but ur either an actor or in denial





Should I continue?


Can you without getting destroyed?

And I got one for you - imagine losing or being the underdog 3 of 4 years after teaming up with the next best player in the league, including the GOAT choke and a record defeat
.

[3ball]

Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games


LeBron MISSED the playoffs winning 42 games in 2005


So Jordan played in a weaker conference, and STILL went 1-9 :eek:



Yikes


30 wins is irrelevant because you needed a great team to make the Finals in the 80's

there were great teams in the conference, so weak teams couldn't make the Finals, whereas 5 weak teams won the East from 01-09' (AI, Kidd twice, Lebron, Dwight)

the lack of great teams in the 00' East made it easy to go deep in the playoffs (play more games), which inflated lebron's playoff totals early in his career - then he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in this same weak conference

So he cheated his comp and the career totals of past greats by creating an unfair competitive environment - stacking the deck to accumulate stats against weak comp - the "spirit" of what he did was blatant cheating in plain view.. this kind of competitive AVOIDANCE could never be goat, or even top 5 (he's not in my top 10)
.

[paksat]

wtf are all these bron stains gonna do when he retires in a few years?

[Smoke117]

And yet he's a famous millionaire that will go down as one of the greatest basketball players of all time. You on the other hand are...you. A mentally ill loser who obsessively posts about him on the worst basketball board on the internet.

:lol

[3ball]

And yet he's a famous millionaire that will go down as one of the greatest basketball players of all time. You on the other hand are...you. A mentally ill loser who obsessively post about him on the worst basketball board on the internet.

:lol
It's isn't the worst, but it only suffers because lebron stans won't respond directly or admit defeat - they can only deflect, troll, be immature, whine or all 4

For example, your post above would fit into the deflecting and whining categories

[Smoke117]

It's isn't the worst, but it only suffers because lebron stans won't respond directly or admit defeat - they can only deflect, troll, be immature, whine or all 4

For example, your post above would fit into the deflecting and whining categories

Classic thought process of the mentally ill...it's not me, it's everyone else. :oldlol:

[SpaceJam2]

Classic thought process of the mentally ill...it's not me, it's everyone else. :oldlol:

:lol :lol

[3ball]

Classic thought process of the mentally ill...it's not me, it's everyone else. :oldlol:
the reality is that the freedom of speech on this board often put us ahead of the curve - stuff that was bannable on other sites in the past is now common knowledge (ball-domination, Leastern conference, no-defense league, 3-pt contest basketball, wide open paint, etc)

You're just salty as always.. go out and get some sun or something.. have a drink or smoke a J..

[Smoke117]

the reality is that the freedom of speech on this board often put us ahead of the curve - stuff that was bannable on other sites in the past is now common knowledge (ball-domination, Leastern conference, no-defense league, 3-pt contest basketball, wide open paint, etc)

You're just salty as always.. go out and get some sun or something.. have a drink or smoke a J..

Yes, you are right. Obsessive stanning and obsessive hating aren't allowed on better basketball boards. Those boards actually want real discussion and not just a bunch of threads sucking off or bashing players. (sound familiar? It should...it's all you post) You get banned from all those other boards because you're a joke that doesn't know how to have a reasonable and intelligent basketball discussion. This is the only board where your nonsense and Simon's nonsense and Kenny's etc is allowed. Everywhere else they don't allow the patients to run the asylum.

[SpaceJam2]

the reality is that the freedom of speech on this board often put us ahead of the curve - stuff that was bannable on other sites in the past is now common knowledge (ball-domination, Leastern conference, no-defense league, 3-pt contest basketball, wide open paint, etc)

You're just salty as always.. go out and get some sun or something.. have a drink or smoke a J..

Go play your neighbors 1 on 1

[3ball]

Go play your neighbors 1 on 1
Says the guy that was thoroughly defeated itt (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13696686&postcount=24) and can't respond or concede defeat

Super-weak just like the guy you stan.. I don't deflect or whine - I respond to your bullshit head-on, and then wait for you guys to melt down or run like smoke just did and you are now

[SpaceJam2]

Says the guy that was thoroughly defeated itt (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13696686&postcount=24) and can't respond or concede defeat

Super-weak just like the guy you stan.. I don't deflect or whine - I respond to your bullshit head-on, and then wait for you guys to melt down or run like smoke just did and you are now

You lie and skew
It's all you do
Posts like poo-poo
Like MJ's range, doo-doo

[3ball]

You lie and skew
It's all you do
Posts like poo-poo
Like MJ's range, doo-doo

So ur like


https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-18-2016/TQFr9a.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-07-2019/UN1Amm.gif



This is the post that beat him y'all:

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13696686&postcount=24
.

[bigkingsfan]

Lebron controls your life.

[Vino24]

op never played D1 bball

[Spurs m8]

No one with integrity and proper basketball knowledge respects bron.

It's as simple as that.

This year of LeExposure has been beautiful and what we knew all along.

[Smoke117]

No one with integrity and proper basketball knowledge respects bron.

It's as simple as that.

This year of LeExposure has been beautiful and what we knew all along.

I Guess Kobe has no integrity and proper basketball knowledge then. Same goes for DeRozan and a lot of basketball players you probably like since they all respect him as a basketball player. You moron.

[bullettooth]

Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games


LeBron MISSED the playoffs winning 42 games in 2005


So Jordan played in a weaker conference, and STILL went 1-9 :eek:



Yikes

6 time finals loser.

That's the guy you jerk off to. :facepalm

[FKAri]

6 time finals loser.

That's the guy you jerk off to. :facepalm
Who's jerking off to a God? :wtf:

[superduper]

Who's jerking off to a God? :wtf:

:roll: :roll:

Damn you

[SpaceJam2]

Who's jerking off to a God? :wtf:

+1 Like whaaat? LeHoly Spirit is a National treasure

[bullettooth]

Who's jerking off to a God? :wtf:

How's this god doing in the playoffs this year?