"Kawhi is better under pressure than Kobe" - Max Kellerman

[Nowoco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfFmPbsYPI

:applause:

[SpaceJam2]

Who isn't?

Kobe is below league average...

[Manny98]

Kawhi has much better clutch stats than Kobe so Max is correct

Kobe's clutch stats are ****ing dreadful

[ImKobe]

Kawhi has much better clutch stats than Kobe so Max is correct

Kobe's clutch stats are ****ing dreadful

Would Kobe miss a FT to clinch the Finals like Kawhi did? :lol

Didn't Kawhi just miss 4 FTs in the 4th in what's supposed to be his most "clutch" game?

[Smoke117]

Water is wet.

[kennethgriffen]

i dunno how max did it. but he just made me hate kawhi. i'm done with toronto


now going for KD

[tpols]

I dont think kawhi feels any pressure tbh..every shot is just a binary event with a yes or no outcome.

[bigkingsfan]

Would Kobe miss a FT to clinch the Finals like Kawhi did? :lol

Didn't Kawhi just miss 4 FTs in the 4th in what's supposed to be his most "clutch" game?
2nd year Kobe got swept, playing with three other all stars, while going 69% from the line.

Edit : left out the 37% shooting and 0/7 from 3. booyah.

[kennethgriffen]

max kellerman makes nick wright look like a basketball genius

[bison]

They’re both clutch greats because they both have that mentality. Kobe is an unrelenting psychopath who enjoys pressure situations so much he is actually AROUSED by them. Meanwhile kahwi is a high functioning autist unable to mentally gauge the emotional stakes in crucial situations. He only knows he has play basketball good when he’s on the court.

[sportjames23]

Hol' up. Weren't you Bron stans here calling him "Kawhit" here not too long ago? Since that he's slaying in Toronto ya'll love you some Kawhi now that you decided to beat Kobe fans upside the head with him. :confusedshrug:

[LoneyROY7]

i dunno how max did it. but he just made me hate kawhi. i'm done with toronto


now going for KD

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[superduper]

Hol' up. Weren't you Bron stans here calling him "Kawhit" here not too long ago? Since that he's slaying in Toronto ya'll love you some Kawhi now that you decided to beat Kobe fans upside the head with him. :confusedshrug:

Gottem :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Smoke117]

i dunno how max did it. but he just made me hate kawhi. i'm done with toronto


now going for KD

Kenny jumps from player to player like a 25 dollar hooker jumps from dick to dick.

[SpaceJam2]

I dont think kawhi feels any pressure tbh..every shot is just a binary event with a yes or no outcome.

1s and 0s :lol

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:lebronamazed:

[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=bison]They

[kennethgriffen]

Kenny jumps from player to player like a 25 dollar hooker jumps from dick to dick.


or like how your dad jumped off that chair after tieing a noose around his neck cause he had no retirement savings

[Phoenix]

Lol watching this now. J-Williams initial non-verbal reply is :oldlol:

[Manny98]

Would Kobe miss a FT to clinch the Finals like Kawhi did? :lol

Didn't Kawhi just miss 4 FTs in the 4th in what's supposed to be his most "clutch" game?
https://i.postimg.cc/7h4FcTJ5/BWt-Xf-Cz-CMAE-DEc.png

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Smoke117]

or like how your dad jumped off that chair after tieing a noose around his neck cause he had no retirement savings

Cringe. Leave the jokes to me. Just like everything else in your life you are really bad at this, too.

[ArbitraryWater]

not a hard thing to be

[SpaceJam2]

or like how your dad jumped off that chair after tieing a noose around his neck cause he had no retirement savings

So you're a true racist AND hateful eh?

You really SHOULD leave this message board.

[3ball]

Kobe galvanized and elevated teammates

I'm not sure Kawhi does that

[Vino24]

[QUOTE=bison]They

[Manny98]

Kobe galvanized and elevated teammates

I'm not sure Kawhi does that
Kawhi can do everything MJ can do + a 3 point shot and better defense

[Doranku]

Max Kellerman knows quite literally nothing significant about basketball or its history. Dude has always been clueless about the sport. Should stick to boxing.

[FKAri]

Kenny jumps from player to player like a 25 dollar hooker jumps from dick to dick.
or put another way, Kenny jumps from player to player like Kenny jumps from dick to dick.

[sportjames23]

Kawhi can do everything MJ can do + a 3 point shot and better defense

This kid is on some bad drugs.

[FKAri]

This kid is on some bad drugs.
Agreed. The drugs aren't even good enough to distort his critical thinking. :rockon:

[superduper]

Kawhi can do everything MJ can do + a 3 point shot and better defense

So why did Kawhi extensively study MJs game?

Please educate me oh '98 one.

[Manny98]

So why did Kawhi extensively study MJs game?

Please educate me oh '98 one.
Ask him

Kawhi is MJ 2.0 he has all the moves MJ had + a better 3 point shot and better defense

He's like the real life version of Kise from Kuroko no basket

[3ball]

.
Kawhi is probably the best or 2nd best player with Giannis, but Kawhi lacks next level stuff that MJ had


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[Manny98]

^ nope Kawhi can do everything that MJ could do

https://i.postimg.cc/RZhVMdZB/kawhidunk.gif


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[3ball]

^ nope Kawhi can do everything that MJ could do


open paints in your gifs

and no, none of that is anywhere near what I posted

- where's the hangtime
- where's the posters over 3 guys
- where's the shot-making ability
- where's the FT dunk
- where's the hangtime

[RRR3]

open paints in all your gifs and no, none of that is anywhere near what I posted

Where's the hangtime; where's the posters over 3 guys; where's the shot-making ability
Where’s MJ’s 3 point shot?

[3ball]

Where’s MJ’s 3 point shot?
MJ attempted less than 1.5 threes per game except for 90' and 93' where he took 3+ attempts and shot 37.6% and 35.2%

So anytime he tried - he was good

And anytime it mattered - like the 91-93' Finals (43% on 3.3 attempts) and 35.2% in 85-93'playoffs on 2.2 attempts

And that's with barely trying - whereas threes are the primary thing today's players practice...

Ultimately, MJ's elite FT shooting, goat form and goat midrange touch would make him a top 3-point shooter today with the same practice that today's player gets

[Manny98]

open paints in your gifs

and no, none of that is anywhere near what I posted

- where's the hangtime

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[RRR3]

MJ attempted less than 1.5 threes per game except for 90' and 93' where he took 3+ attempts and shot 37.6% and 35.2%

So anytime he tried - he was good

And anytime it mattered - like the 91-93' Finals (43% on 3.3 attempts) and 35.2% in 85-93'playoffs on 2.2 attempts

And that's with barely trying - whereas threes are the primary thing today's players practice...

Ultimately, MJ's elite FT shooting, goat form and goat midrange touch would make him a top 3-point shooter today with the same practice that today's player gets
Why was he too stupid to “try” more often?

[3ball]

Why was he too stupid to “try” more often?
People preferred real basketball back then (the infinite ways to score 2-pointers), as opposed to today's same ol' same ol' (drive-and-kick for threes; 3-point shooting contest)

Silver ruined it by changing the rules too much to favor penetration, thus making kickouts for threes the mathematically correct thing to do

[Vino24]

Kawhi is currently having a better playoff series vs the 76ers than Jordan had against anyone

[3ball]

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Inferior hangtime to MJ:


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And his midrange jumpshot capability doesn't compare:


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[3ball]

Kawhi is currently having a better playoff series vs the 76ers than Jordan had against anyone
MJ averaged 45 on 60% in a series

And 43 on 55% in another

And Kawhi is also only 4 games into the series - MJ had numerous 45-50 ppg stretches in the playoffs.. i.e. he was 48/10/6 in games 2-4 of 93' Finals

[Vino24]

MJ averaged 45 on 60% in a series

And 43 on 55% in another

And Kawhi is also only 4 games into the series - MJ had numerous 45-50 ppg stretches in the playoffs.. he was 48/10/6 in games 2-4 of 93' Finals
Kawhi is carrying a bigger load. He is required to be the best on defense and offense. Meanwhile Jordan had Pippen to take the defensive burden

[RRR3]

People preferred real basketball back then (the infinite ways to score 2-pointers), as opposed to today's same ol' same ol' (drive-and-kick for threes; 3-point shooting contest)

Silver ruined it by changing the rules too much to favor penetration, thus making kickouts for threes the mathematically correct thing to do
Yeah this is a load of BS.


The fact is MJ had a few years of decent success with the 3 and then reverted back to not practicing them enough because he was extremely low IQ. If he was smart like LeGenius he’d have kept at it.

[JohnMax]

I'm gonna politely drop this right here:

https://twitter.com/SDinwiddie_25/status/1125855394650214401

Real NBA players know. Don't be listening to mainstream media and biased fans

[r0drig0lac]

I dont think kawhi feels any pressure tbh..every shot is just a binary event with a yes or no outcome.
this

[3ball]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah this is a load of BS.


The fact is MJ had a few years of decent success with the 3 and then reverted back to not practicing them enough because he was extremely low IQ. If he was smart like LeGenius he

[NBASTATMAN]

[QUOTE=bison]



Meanwhile kahwi is a high functioning autist unable to mentally gauge the emotional stakes in crucial situations. He only knows he has play basketball good when he

[dazzer87]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah this is a load of BS.


The fact is MJ had a few years of decent success with the 3 and then reverted back to not practicing them enough because he was extremely low IQ. If he was smart like LeGenius he

[RRR3]

Wtf are you talking about

The league didn't shoot threes back then

Teams averaged 5 attempts per game in 1991, versus 30 per game today

Again, people didn't think it was real basketball - those are the facts
So MJ played in an era where everyone was too stupid to figure out 3 was more than 2? Damn. His accomplishments mean nothing.

[stalkerforlife]

"Clutch" is 2 minutes left with margin of 3 in playoffs...

Lebron

He is 40/106 in clutch situation
His free throw shooting is 49/67
True Shooting is, 49.8%
Assist per 36: 4.2 assists
Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers
Kobe

He is 40/96 in clutch situations.
His free throw shooting is 67/79
His true shooting is 58 %
Assists per 36: 4.3 assists
Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers

Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3...

Lebron

He is 4/23 in clutch situations
His free throw shooting is 10/14
His true shooting is 31%
Assists per 36: 3.7 assists
TO per 36: 3.7 TO
Kobe

He is 10/20 in clutch situations
His free throw shooting is 4/5
His true shooting is 56.4%
Assists per 36: 7.5 assists
TO per 36: 1.5 TO

Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5...

Lebron

17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.
32% EFG
43% TS.
Assists per 36: 4.26
TO per 36: 3.1
Kobe

28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.
46% EFG
53% TS.
Assists per 36: 3.6
TO per 36: 1.08

LeYikes.

[SpaceJam]

So MJ played in an era where everyone was too stupid to figure out 3 was more than 2? Damn. His accomplishments mean nothing.

Imagine being so autistic you think 2 points is better than 3.

Jesus Christ MJ just fell out of my top 5, high basketball IQ my ass

[RoseCity07]

Kawhi is better under pressure than a turd. No shit.

[nashwade]

kawhi = duncan = very good and efficient but very boring to watch

[Mr Feeny]

Would Kobe miss a FT to clinch the Finals like Kawhi did? :lol

Didn't Kawhi just miss 4 FTs in the 4th in what's supposed to be his most "clutch" game?

Kobe would go 6/24 :lol

[Mr Feeny]

Kawhi is currently having a better playoff series vs the 76ers than Jordan had against anyone

Not sure about that but Kawhi is Defintely playing better right now than LeBron did at any point in his career.

[kennethgriffen]

Kobe would go 6/24 :lol



and dominate the last 15 minutes, win a title and finals mvp all in the same night


2010 NBA finals Game 7:
3:09 left in 3rd - Kobe 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )
2:37 left in 3rd - Gasol 2 free throws ( boston 56 - lakers 51 )
2:21 left in 3rd - Kobe 11th rebound
1:10 left in 3rd - Odom 2 point layup off kobe pass ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )
11:43 left in 4th - Gasol 2 point shot ( boston 57 - lakers 55 )
8:46 left in 4th - Kobe 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )
7:29 left in 4th - Artest 3 point play ( boston 61 - lakers 61 )
6:13 left in 4th - fisher 3 pointer ( boston 64 - lakers 64 )
5:56 left in 4th - Kobe 12th rebound
5:56 left in 4th - Kobe 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )
5:36 left in 4th - Kobe 13th rebound
5:23 left in 4th - Kobe 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )
5:01 left in 4th - Kobe 14th rebound
4:39 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )
4:20 left in 4th - Kobe 15th rebound
3:21 left in 4th - Kobe 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )
2:47 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )
2:20 left in 4th - loose ball foul Gasol 1 free throw ( boston 68 - lakers 74 )
1:30 left in 4th - Gasol 2 point shot ( boston 70 - lakers 76 )
1:01 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )
0:25 left in 4th - Kobe 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )
0:11 left in 4th - intentional foul on vujacic ( boston 79 - lakers 83 )


https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_limit,w_680/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/gvqb7bc65rpqwtxsjsnb/kobe-mvp

[GimmeThat]

probably similar basketball IQ either way, with honorable mention of Steve Nash

interesting to note, the scoring ability of PG in the NBA is probably correlated with speed. Mike D'Antoni's mistake with the Suns was the amount of new players that joins the NBA every season, and misguided by the showtime Lakers, plays actually became one dimensional in the end due to the lack of spots players can correlate with the ball handler

and yea, the whole zen thing and equal opportunity offense and Ron Artest (Metta World Peace) being unable to be plugged into the offense

so yea, Kawhi is better under pressure

[ImKobe]

Didn't Kawhi brick a FT to win the Finals in 2013? You think Kobe's missing that shot?

Kawhi is a great player, but he simply hasn't showed up in enough moments to warrant being better under pressure than Kobe. We saw him miss 4 FTs in the 4th of Game 4 when he's like a 90% FT shooter. We saw him turn the ball over repeatedly. He doesn't have the ability to consistently make the right pass, Kobe has done more than his share of setting his teammates up for great baskets in the biggest Playoff moments over the course of his career, that's why he leads 5 title teams in assists. Kobe's more than willing to make the right play in the biggest moment, people mistake his mid-2000s stretch with who he really is as a basketball player.

Kobe's had a better stretch of basketball than current Kawhi, I don't get this hype.

Kobe could match Kawhi's scoring and defense, but he could also run the offense like a point guard and get you 8-10 assists.

Kawhi ain't capable of having 49 pts and 10 assists with only 27 FGA & 2 TO in a Playoff game.

[Mr Feeny]

and dominate the last 15 minutes, win a title and finals mvp all in the same night


2010 NBA finals Game 7:
3:09 left in 3rd - Kobe 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )
2:37 left in 3rd - Gasol 2 free throws ( boston 56 - lakers 51 )
2:21 left in 3rd - Kobe 11th rebound
1:10 left in 3rd - Odom 2 point layup off kobe pass ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )
11:43 left in 4th - Gasol 2 point shot ( boston 57 - lakers 55 )
8:46 left in 4th - Kobe 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )
7:29 left in 4th - Artest 3 point play ( boston 61 - lakers 61 )
6:13 left in 4th - fisher 3 pointer ( boston 64 - lakers 64 )
5:56 left in 4th - Kobe 12th rebound
5:56 left in 4th - Kobe 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )
5:36 left in 4th - Kobe 13th rebound
5:23 left in 4th - Kobe 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )
5:01 left in 4th - Kobe 14th rebound
4:39 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )
4:20 left in 4th - Kobe 15th rebound
3:21 left in 4th - Kobe 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )
2:47 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )
2:20 left in 4th - loose ball foul Gasol 1 free throw ( boston 68 - lakers 74 )
1:30 left in 4th - Gasol 2 point shot ( boston 70 - lakers 76 )
1:01 left in 4th - Kobe assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )
0:25 left in 4th - Kobe 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )
0:11 left in 4th - intentional foul on vujacic ( boston 79 - lakers 83 )


https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_limit,w_680/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/gvqb7bc65rpqwtxsjsnb/kobe-mvp

In other words misses 18 of his 24 shots in his biggest game ever, as I said:lol

[Cold soul]

Max is making these crazy statements to get clicks and attention he wants to be noticed here even though it

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=Cold soul]Max is making these crazy statements to get clicks and attention he wants to be noticed here even though it

[FKAri]

He doesn't fit the Skip Bayless role. Skip's trolling was entertaining but Max just sounds like a hater, whether it's Kobe or Brady.
He should take notes from Shannon Sharpe on how to be a convincing Lebron stan.

[Cold soul]

He doesn't fit the Skip Bayless role. Skip's trolling was entertaining but Max just sounds like a hater, whether it's Kobe or Brady.

Yeah he

[Wally450]

He doesn't fit the Skip Bayless role. Skip's trolling was entertaining but Max just sounds like a hater, whether it's Kobe or Brady.

His hate for Brady is mesmerizing. Then his argument to attempt to back it up is just poor.

[ImKobe]

Yeah he’s a straight hater most def he doesn’t even try to hide it. Max is hardcore troll as well.

Which is crazy because he used to be a Kobe fan when he did radio in LA.

Jay Williams was about to leave the set when he said Kawhi's better under pressure :lol

He's usually a stats guy, but Kawhi's averaging 6 ppg on 47/22/71 splits in the 4th quarter of this series and had two killer turnovers and 4 missed FTs in the game he hit the big 3-point shot.


His hate for Brady is mesmerizing. Then his argument to attempt to back it up is just poor.

Brady has proven him wrong for 3 straight seasons and he was still on that Cliff argument last time I saw a clip on these Playoffs after the comeback vs. KC.

[STATUTORY]

talk show hosts trying to boost ratings and stay relevant by putting Kobe's name in their mouth.

that's what the definition of having a legacy is.

[Phoenix]

He doesn't fit the Skip Bayless role. Skip's trolling was entertaining but Max just sounds like a hater, whether it's Kobe or Brady.

I don't know if he's hating, as much as the show functions on contrasting opinions. Nobody would tune in to watch Max and SAS agree with each other so whatever one says, the other has to offer a counter. I've heard Max make perfectly reasonable arguments that have been met with batshit insane retorts from the other side because...well... there's no show worth tuning into otherwise.

[ImKobe]

I don't know if he's hating, as much as the show functions on contrasting opinions. Nobody would tune in to watch Max and SAS agree with each other so whatever one says, the other has to offer a counter. I've heard Max make perfectly reasonable arguments that have been met with batshit insane retorts from the other side because...well... there's no show worth tuning into otherwise.

I understand that, it's just the quality of the show isn't where it used to be. They have their moments, but I'd rather watch Undisputed for the same thing. Shannon does the same thing when stanning Lebron but he makes it sound entertaining.

[Phoenix]

I understand that, it's just the quality of the show isn't where it used to be. They have their moments, but I'd rather watch Undisputed for the same thing. Shannon does the same thing when stanning Lebron but he makes it sound entertaining.

Undisputed definitely elevated that format. Shannon stans like a mofo but I find him much more entertaining than SAS playing off Skip.

[Nowoco]

Max "The Clairvoyant" Kellerman :rockon:

[Uncle Drew]

Kellerman was absolutely on the money with this one.

[NBASTATMAN]

Kellerman was absolutely on the money with this one.
:cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

[QUOTE=Cold soul]Max is making these crazy statements to get clicks and attention he wants to be noticed here even though it

[NBAGOAT]

Shannon fully commits, that

[StrongLurk]

Bump.

A lot of Kobe stans looking dumb as usual.

[StrongLurk]

Bump.

A lot of Kobe stans looking dumb as usual.

Rebump :roll:

[riseagainst]

Kobetards taking another L.

I still remember the 6/24 game like it was yesterday.

[red1]

klay again :bowdown:

[NASH = BEST]

Bump.

A lot of Kobe stans looking dumb as usual.

To be honest, and my guess is you

[SpaceJam2]

Bump.

A lot of Kobe stans looking dumb as usual.


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