View Full Version : Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:00 PM
#1 playoff WS/48
#1 PER
39/8/8 on 49% vs #1 Defense in the league and DPOY
In our entire lifetime, is it possible?
Celtics 1825
05-08-2019, 05:01 PM
We did.
'16 LeBron
FreezingTsmoove
05-08-2019, 05:03 PM
2009 was a great year !
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:05 PM
We did.
'16 LeBron
https://media.giphy.com/media/sHRU2mefl56BG/giphy.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/1zsLtsQG/Mother-Of-God.gif
ballinhun8
05-08-2019, 05:06 PM
Yawn I remember SVG creating the perfect game plan to "stop" Bron.
But......."stats" doe lmao
TheMan
05-08-2019, 05:06 PM
#1 playoff WS/48
#1 PER
39/8/8 on 49% vs #1 Defense in the league and DPOY
In our entire lifetime, is it possible?
OP, what's with the fugly tranny in your avi?
StrongLurk
05-08-2019, 05:07 PM
2009 playoff run is the best I've ever seen Lebron, idc what anyone else says.
Athletic peak and his jumper was on fire in those playoffs.
Young Bron's problem was he was too good right out of the gate so the Cavs never got high draft picks to acquire studs like KD did with Harden/Westbrook.
NBAGOAT
05-08-2019, 05:09 PM
Yawn I remember SVG creating the perfect game plan to "stop" Bron.
But......."stats" doe lmao
the gameplan was completely exploit the cle frontcourt with howard/lewis because they knew they were the better team.
Spurs m8
05-08-2019, 05:11 PM
These stats aren't even real lol
Why do the stans always lie?
He's nothing without lies.
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 05:11 PM
or '17-'18 LBJ
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:11 PM
OP, what's with the fugly tranny in your avi?
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c204/PRAY4DEATH/350.jpg
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:12 PM
These stats aren't even real lol
Why do the stans always lie?
He's nothing without lies.
What? He had the highest WS/48 in NBA history plus the highest PER and VORP in NBA history...You miss the threads?
NBA's Top 10 Best Playoff WS/48 (14 game minimum)
1. LeBron - .388 (14 games, 2009)
2. Jordan - .333 (17 games, 1991)
3. Jordan - .306 (18 games, 1996)
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When it comes to maximum playoff value, who reigns supreme? Please find a detailed list of the the Highest player value (VORP) in post season history.
Highest playoff value (VORP) (14 game minimum)
#1 '09 LeBron: .207 per game 2.9 VORP (14 games)
#2 '90 Jordan: .175 per game = 2.8 VORP (16 games)
#3 '18 LeBron: .168 per game = 3.7 VORP (22 games)
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Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)
1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
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Stay a while. You might learn something.
Celtics 1825
05-08-2019, 05:14 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c204/PRAY4DEATH/350.jpg
:roll: :roll: This is really how guys like him be
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:22 PM
:roll: :roll: This is really how guys like him be
We already know
:dancin
ImKobe
05-08-2019, 05:24 PM
25 points on 40% shooting when it mattered the most.
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 05:26 PM
25 points on 40% shooting when it mattered the most.
sounds like Kobe's lifetime elimination game stats
22.0ppg, 5.7reb, 3.4ast, 1.0stl, 0.67blk, 41.6%FG, 77.6%FT, 25.9%3pt
The Iron Fist
05-08-2019, 05:30 PM
What? He had the highest WS/48 in NBA history plus the highest PER and VORP in NBA history...You miss the threads?
NBA's Top 10 Best Playoff WS/48 (14 game minimum)
1. LeBron - .388 (14 games, 2009)
2. Jordan - .333 (17 games, 1991)
3. Jordan - .306 (18 games, 1996)
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When it comes to maximum playoff value, who reigns supreme? Please find a detailed list of the the Highest player value (VORP) in post season history.
Highest playoff value (VORP) (14 game minimum)
#1 '09 LeBron: .207 per game 2.9 VORP (14 games)
#2 '90 Jordan: .175 per game = 2.8 VORP (16 games)
#3 '18 LeBron: .168 per game = 3.7 VORP (22 games)
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Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)
1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
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Stay a while. You might learn something.
Did he win a championship that year?
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:31 PM
OP, what's with the fugly tranny in your avi?
https://i.postimg.cc/bwz7Yq8Q/Nerdlolz.jpg
scuzzy
05-08-2019, 05:31 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c204/PRAY4DEATH/350.jpg
:lebronamazed:
using a strikingly similar, old forum layout ISH uses :eek: :lol
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:32 PM
Did he win a championship that year?
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ?
Focus
Thanks
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:32 PM
:lebronamazed:
using a strikingly similar, old forum layout ISH uses :eek: :lol
:eek: :eek: :lol
TheMan
05-08-2019, 05:34 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c204/PRAY4DEATH/350.jpg
No seriously, I knew you were a fggot but I didn't think you were into trannys
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:35 PM
sounds like Kobe's lifetime elimination game stats
22.0ppg, 5.7reb, 3.4ast, 1.0stl, 0.67blk, 41.6%FG, 77.6%FT, 25.9%3pt
https://i.postimg.cc/Fs3Py0nq/tenor.gif
LAmbruh
05-08-2019, 05:35 PM
sounds like Kobe's lifetime elimination game stats
22.0ppg, 5.7reb, 3.4ast, 1.0stl, 0.67blk, 41.6%FG, 77.6%FT, 25.9%3pt
ouch
3ball
05-08-2019, 05:35 PM
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ?
Focus
Thanks
We saw iverson but lebron is just taller, so he's more efficient
But he employed the same self-centered, over-dribbling, losing style
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 05:38 PM
#1 playoff WS/48
#1 PER
39/8/8 on 49% vs #1 Defense in the league and DPOY
In our entire lifetime, is it possible?
Some guy posting fancy stats on an early playoff exit? We see that every year. 2012 and 16 are his best runs.
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:39 PM
Some guy posting fancy stats on an early playoff exit? We see that every year. 2012 and 16 are his best runs.
Fancy :lol
Literally the best, GOAT performance ever
Try to hate a little less bud
Manny98
05-08-2019, 05:40 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/bwz7Yq8Q/Nerdlolz.jpg
:roll: :roll:
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:41 PM
We saw iverson but lebron is just taller, so he's more efficient
But he employed the same self-centered, over-dribbling, losing style
Be prideful in your hero holding down that #2 spot tho :lol
Jordan's ranks in...
PER #2
WS/48 #2
Points #2
Steals #2
Elimination game winners #2
Elim game ppg #2
VORP #2
WS #2
Not bad for a 1-9 guy
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 05:42 PM
Fancy :lol
Literally the best, GOAT performance ever
Try to hate a little less bud
One of the best CF runs. That's it. Are the 73W Warriors the GOAT team?
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:44 PM
One of the best CF runs. That's it. Are the 73W Warriors the GOAT team?
Why do you keep answering questions with questions. We won't get anywhere.
Answer this:
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ
3ball
05-08-2019, 05:47 PM
Be prideful in your hero holding down that #2 spot tho :lol
Jordan's ranks in...
PER #1
WS/48 #1
Points per game #1
Steals per game #1
Elimination game winners #2
Elim game ppg #2
VORP #2
WS #2
Not bad for a 1-9 guy
Fixed
MJ dominated at a higher rate (PER, ws/48), while lebron played longer (WS, VORP) and let weak teams take him the distance (easier elimination game stats)
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:48 PM
Fixed
MJ dominated at a higher rate (PER, ws/48), while lebron played longer (WS, VORP) and let weak teams take him the distance
Michael #2 Jordan
Had a nice career until he was passed up in everything. Sorry bout it :(
You should still be prideful in your hero holding down that #2 spot tho
Jordan's ranks in...
PER #2
WS/48 #2
Points #2
Steals #2
Elimination game winners #2
Elim game ppg #2
VORP #2
WS #2
Not bad for a 1-9 guy
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 05:54 PM
Why do you keep answering questions with questions. We won't get anywhere.
Answer this:
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ
Some guy posting fancy stats on an early playoff exit? We see that every year. 2012 and 16 are his best runs.
Are the 73W Warriors the GOAT team?
Already answered. Your turn.
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 05:55 PM
Already answered. Your turn.
Has a team ever won more than 73 games?
PS: Your answer was pathetic
The Iron Fist
05-08-2019, 05:59 PM
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ?
Focus
Thanks
Focus. We have seen several better. They won the title.
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 06:00 PM
Focus. We have seen several better.
He's ranked #1 in everything, but thanks for playing :lol
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 06:02 PM
Anyway, now that I shook off all the fleas with ease...
Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ
SouBeachTalents
05-08-2019, 06:05 PM
sounds like Kobe's lifetime elimination game stats
22.0ppg, 5.7reb, 3.4ast, 1.0stl, 0.67blk, 41.6%FG, 77.6%FT, 25.9%3pt
Damn :oldlol:
Of course he completely dodged that post too
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:05 PM
Has a team ever won more than 73 games?
Is the RS a measure of greatness?
And1AllDay
05-08-2019, 06:06 PM
We did.
'16 LeBron
https://i.postimg.cc/G3jt1W6p/8bd81a50eb70b4f479f5a77d891c133d.jpg
:eek:
Imagine being so GOAT its so hard to even fuggin know which season is your best season :oldlol:
09'? 12'? 13'? 16'? 17'? 18'?
Just imagine it...
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 06:09 PM
Some guy posting fancy stats on an early playoff exit? We see that every year. 2012 and 16 are his best runs.
:facepalm
the lack of respect and knowledge
basically you're saying "fck the non title runs, i only evaluate the title runs"
'09 was a better run than '13, undoubtedly.
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:10 PM
:facepalm
the lack of respect and knowledge
basically you're saying "fck the non title runs, i only evaluate the title runs"
'09 was a better run than '13, undoubtedly.
Can you please bold "13" in my post?
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 06:11 PM
Damn :oldlol:
Of course he completely dodged that post too
yea, where he at doe?
And1AllDay
05-08-2019, 06:11 PM
Can you please bold "13" in my post?
Bruh Bran has number 1 stats in all major stat fields and you said it was 'fancy stats' tf are you talking about :coleman:
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 06:12 PM
Can you please bold "13" in my post?
i dont need to.
i exposed your entire way of thinking with that point.
is 2018 also another fancy early exit run? i mean, he made it only 2 games further than '09 LBJ did...
we see so many of those, dont we?
SouBeachTalents
05-08-2019, 06:13 PM
:facepalm
the lack of respect and knowledge
basically you're saying "fck the non title runs, i only evaluate the title runs"
'09 was a better run than '13, undoubtedly.
That's the ironic thing about LeBron, arguably his 3 best playoff runs ('09, '17 & '18) all occurred in years he didn't win the title.
Almost every other ATG has them lined up with a championship, only other one I can think of that doesn't is Kareem, who had 3 beastly runs ('70, '74 & '77) not end in a title
The Iron Fist
05-08-2019, 06:15 PM
He's ranked #1 in everything, but thanks for playing :lol
And whats his championship rank look like?
Oh yea, hes basically Jerry West sprinkled with Elgin Baylor. Take your pick. :cheers:
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:15 PM
i dont need to.
i exposed your entire way of thinking with that point.
is 2018 also another fancy early exit run? i mean, he made it only 2 games further than '09 LBJ did...
we see so many of those, dont we?
You didn't expose anything. You don't know my line of thinking about that topic and I won't post anything real, because it's useless. You're trying so hard to be a knowledgeable guy, but aslong as you roll with those trolls you won't be taken serious.
NBAGOAT
05-08-2019, 06:15 PM
That's the ironic thing about LeBron, arguably his 3 best playoff runs ('09, '17 & '18) all occurred in years he didn't win the title.
Almost every other ATG has them lined up with a championship, only other one I can think of that doesn't is Kareem, who had 3 beastly runs ('70, '74 & '77) not end in a title
tim duncan 2006 is another one.
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 06:18 PM
That's the ironic thing about LeBron, arguably his 3 best playoff runs ('09, '17 & '18) all occurred in years he didn't win the title.
Almost every other ATG has them lined up with a championship, only other one I can think of that doesn't is Kareem, who had 3 beastly runs ('70, '74 & '77) not end in a title
same with Kobe's best seasons.
Kobe fans jump around yapping 5 rings, and his 3 most celebrated "peak" seasons have been ring-less ('06-'08)
they dont see the irony
You didn't expose anything. You don't know my line of thinking about that topic and I won't post anything real, because it's useless. You're trying so hard to be a knowledgeable guy, but aslong as you roll with those trolls you won't be taken serious.
Nice way of saying I'm done and you got me. weak. expected more. lets see if you end it similarly in the football thread
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:21 PM
Nice way of saying I'm done and you got me. weak. expected more. lets see if you end it similarly in the football thread
Not really. I did some real posts on Lebron in the past. I even defended him when it seemed right and people went overboard, but you only see what you want to see.
This new wave including OP is just too much. They flood the board with Lebron topics all day while he's not even playing.
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 06:23 PM
Not really. I did some real posts on Lebron in the past. I even defended him when it seemed right and people went overboard, but you only see what you want to see.
This new wave including OP is just too much. They flood the board with Lebron topics all day while he's not even playing.
what does this have to do with '09 or '18 LBJ?
Is '18 LBJ just another fancy non title run early exit?
Or will you dodge, because you won't like where your answer is going?
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:40 PM
what does this have to do with '09 or '18 LBJ?
Is '18 LBJ just another fancy non title run early exit?
Or will you dodge, because you won't like where your answer is going?
Yes, it is. So?
His EC run was great, but it was obvious by G2 of the finals that he gave up.
Exchange the '18 and '15 finals on top of the '18 run and it would've been way greater. His FG% was abysmal, but he tried anything he could to win that series.
That's why I think '12 and '16 are greater '18. He didn't give up. '12 G6 ECF is his marquee game imo, a game rare for any great. Winning was just a consequence of his play and I think the '12 Heat played the best brand of basketball in Lebron's career.
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 06:44 PM
Yes, it is. So?
His EC run was great, but it was obvious by G2 of the finals that he gave up.
Exchange the '18 and '15 finals on top of the '18 run and it would've been way greater. His FG% was abysmal, but he tried anything he could to win that series.
That's why I think '12 and '16 are greater '18. He didn't give up. '12 G6 ECF is his marquee game imo, a game rare for any great. Winning was just a consequence of his play and I think the '12 Heat played the best brand of basketball in Lebron's career.
I'm assuming you meant 2016 Finals Game 6 and I would hope so, as it was the greatest single game performance in Finals history. Literally...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hkh2X232/GmScore_Rank_updated.jpg
2012 ECF Game 6 was his greatest legacy game tho, bar none.
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:45 PM
I'm assuming you meant 2016 and I would hope so, as it was the greatest single game performance in Finals history. Literally...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hkh2X232/GmScore_Rank_updated.jpg
lol..
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 06:47 PM
Reading isn't your thing
Nor is it yours...
Oh, you edited your post to "lol..." now
Was 2016 Finals G6 another "fancy stats" game?
Overdrive
05-08-2019, 06:56 PM
Nor is it yours...
Oh, you edited your post to "lol..." now
Was 2016 Finals G6 another "fancy stats" game?
Just like you did, twice.
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 06:57 PM
Just like you did, twice.
How do you feel about LeBron having the greatest Finals game in NBA history?
ArbitraryWater
05-08-2019, 07:08 PM
Yes, it is. So?
His EC run was great, but it was obvious by G2 of the finals that he gave up.
Exchange the '18 and '15 finals on top of the '18 run and it would've been way greater. His FG% was abysmal, but he tried anything he could to win that series.
That's why I think '12 and '16 are greater '18. He didn't give up. '12 G6 ECF is his marquee game imo, a game rare for any great. Winning was just a consequence of his play and I think the '12 Heat played the best brand of basketball in Lebron's career.
Yeah, '18 absolutely shits on '16 but because he apparently gave up by game 2 of the finals, a series '16 LeBron doesnt even reach; he was apparently worse...
3 straight 30 point games in the finals on 59%/50%/46% shooting with 9 rbs and 11 asts, but apparently he qui 2 games ago.
The LeBron standard.
You're in ultra deceiving yourself mode.
Damn LeBron putting up 33/10/11 in a down the wire game, he quit, clearly!
:oldlol: give this up. re-evaluate.
And no.
He was less than legendary in the '15 finals, but you just try to paint it as greater because while it has inherent flaws, if you give it top status its obvious he doesn't have flawless runs, as you prefer the inherently flawed ones over the statistically perfect ones.
bottom line: you have no respect for greatness. GOATness, even.
sd3035
05-08-2019, 07:14 PM
OP, what's with the fugly tranny in your avi?
She's Mexican lol
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 07:22 PM
Yeah, '18 absolutely shits on '16 but because he apparently gave up by game 2 of the finals, a series '16 LeBron doesnt even reach; he was apparently worse...
3 straight 30 point games in the finals on 59%/50%/46% shooting with 9 rbs and 11 asts, but apparently he qui 2 games ago.
The LeBron standard.
You're in ultra deceiving yourself mode.
Damn LeBron putting up 33/10/11 in a down the wire game, he quit, clearly!
:oldlol: give this up. re-evaluate.
And no.
He was less than legendary in the '15 finals, but you just try to paint it as greater because while it has inherent flaws, if you give it top status its obvious he doesn't have flawless runs, as you prefer the inherently flawed ones over the statistically perfect ones.
bottom line: you have no respect for greatness. GOATness, even.
Oh boy
LeCola
05-08-2019, 07:32 PM
Durant 2019?
TheCorporation
05-08-2019, 07:35 PM
Durant 2019?
Better than MJ? :eek:
Is this LBJ's competition PLUS a MVP, FMVP, and DPOY???
And1AllDay
05-09-2019, 02:34 AM
Yeah, '18 absolutely shits on '16 but because he apparently gave up by game 2 of the finals, a series '16 LeBron doesnt even reach; he was apparently worse...
3 straight 30 point games in the finals on 59%/50%/46% shooting with 9 rbs and 11 asts, but apparently he qui 2 games ago.
The LeBron standard.
You're in ultra deceiving yourself mode.
Damn LeBron putting up 33/10/11 in a down the wire game, he quit, clearly!
:oldlol: give this up. re-evaluate.
And no.
He was less than legendary in the '15 finals, but you just try to paint it as greater because while it has inherent flaws, if you give it top status its obvious he doesn't have flawless runs, as you prefer the inherently flawed ones over the statistically perfect ones.
bottom line: you have no respect for greatness. GOATness, even.
:oldlol: :oldlol:
TheCorporation
05-09-2019, 10:50 AM
He had the highest WS/48 in NBA history plus the highest PER and VORP in NBA history
NBA's Top 10 Best Playoff WS/48 (14 game minimum)
1. LeBron - .388 (14 games, 2009)
2. Jordan - .333 (17 games, 1991)
3. Jordan - .306 (18 games, 1996)
-----
When it comes to maximum playoff value, who reigns supreme? Please find a detailed list of the the Highest player value (VORP) in post season history.
Highest playoff value (VORP) (14 game minimum)
#1 '09 LeBron: .207 per game 2.9 VORP (14 games)
#2 '90 Jordan: .175 per game = 2.8 VORP (16 games)
#3 '18 LeBron: .168 per game = 3.7 VORP (22 games)
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Highest playoff PER in NBA history (minimum 14 games)
1. LeBron - 37.4 (2009, 14 games)
2. LeBron - 32.2 (2018, 22 games)
3. Jordan - 32.0 (1991, 17 games)
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Will we ever see a player close to '09 LBJ ? It's already taken over 60 years of NBA play to get this far :eek:
StrongLurk
05-09-2019, 11:09 AM
Yeah, '18 absolutely shits on '16 but because he apparently gave up by game 2 of the finals, a series '16 LeBron doesnt even reach; he was apparently worse...
3 straight 30 point games in the finals on 59%/50%/46% shooting with 9 rbs and 11 asts, but apparently he qui 2 games ago.
The LeBron standard.
You're in ultra deceiving yourself mode.
Damn LeBron putting up 33/10/11 in a down the wire game, he quit, clearly!
:oldlol: give this up. re-evaluate.
And no.
He was less than legendary in the '15 finals, but you just try to paint it as greater because while it has inherent flaws, if you give it top status its obvious he doesn't have flawless runs, as you prefer the inherently flawed ones over the statistically perfect ones.
bottom line: you have no respect for greatness. GOATness, even.
:eek:
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