Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA. About 3 years now.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Here's the thing... Michael Jordan has confused multiple generations of players into thinking that iso scoring = optimal basketball. They didn't see and don't see how good of a team player Jordan was. His impact went beyond iso scoring. Anyhow... Kevin Durant is the best 1 on 1 player in the world and it's not close. He's one of the guys that was a product of Jordan's career.

They don't understand how ball dominance a la KD can cause teammates to become less versions of themselves.

But in terms of playing in an NBA game? Steph Curry >>>>>>>>>> Kevin Durant. This game proves it. Well, a much larger sample size than this game... it's just further confirmation, really.

It sucks, and it is what it is. I wish it was still LeBron, but everyone gets old.

Curry gets trapped as he's passing the half court line. That opens up so much for his team offensively, and he doesn't dominate the basketball. He keeps it moving. And just as important as moving the ball, he moves without the ball. That's absolutely vital for his effectiveness and not letting his team get stagnant.

Oh well, **** James Harden. That guy is the biggest fraud in NBA history. No, I'm not exaggerating.

[red1]

no he isn't :oldlol:

[RRR3]

no he isn't :oldlol:
He has a great case.


And I hate Curry.

[Ben Simmons 25]

He is.


And I hate Curry.

Yep. He's a cocky piece of shit that dances around like a clown when things are going well... but he is the best player in the league.

[RRR3]

Yep. He's a cocky piece of shit that dances around like a clown when things are going well... but he is the best player in the league.
I forgot about Giannis so I edited my comment. Giannis has a case too.

[red1]

no chance.

I'd take kd and giannis and kawhi over him any day of the week. he was amazing tonight I'm not even hating.

[NBAGOAT]

i disagree. However it's ridiculous that KD was 10% more efficient when curry was in the game compared to when he wasnt in the playoffs(jumped from 60ts% to 70ts%). Dude's impact is crazy and fits so well in so many teams

[warriorfan]

Here's the thing... Michael Jordan has confused multiple generations of players into thinking that iso scoring = optimal basketball. They didn't see and don't see how good of a team player Jordan was. His impact went beyond iso scoring. Anyhow... Kevin Durant is the best 1 on 1 player in the world and it's not close. He's one of the guys that was a product of Jordan's career.

They don't understand how ball dominance a la KD can cause teammates to become less versions of themselves.

But in terms of playing in an NBA game? Steph Curry >>>>>>>>>> Kevin Durant. This game proves it. Well, a much larger sample size than this game... it's just further confirmation, really.

It sucks, and it is what it is. I wish it was still LeBron, but everyone gets old.

Curry gets trapped as he's passing the half court line. That opens up so much for his team offensively, and he doesn't dominate the basketball. He keeps it moving. And just as important as moving the ball, he moves without the ball. That's absolutely vital for his effectiveness and not letting his team get stagnant.

Oh well, **** James Harden. That guy is the biggest fraud in NBA history. No, I'm not exaggerating.

High iq shit

Like Ive said befor, the only players to distort defenses like that have been MJ and Shaq, they collapsed defenders to the basket, Curry brings them out 30 feet from the bucket...

[Foster5k]

I like Steph. Dude is a gamer. He hits big shots.

However, in 2016, Lebron easily the best player in the NBA and also won the championship over Steph and the Warriors.

[red1]

High iq shit

Like Ive said befor, the only players to distort defenses like that have been MJ and Shaw, they collapsed defenders to the basket, Curry brings them out 30 feet from the bucket...
what? :oldlol:

[Ben Simmons 25]

I forgot about Giannis so I edited my comment. Giannis has a case too.

Giannis does have a case but I can't give it to him after 1 year, just like I refused to give it to Curry in 2015.

[superduper]

High iq shit

Like Ive said befor, the only players to distort defenses like that have been MJ and Shaq, they collapsed defenders to the basket, Curry brings them out 30 feet from the bucket...

Curry's offensive gravity has the same impact but in an inverse way from MJ/Shaq. Incredible.

[StrongLurk]

Draymond is HUGE for the offense as well. Without his IQ, ability to put the ball on the floor, and passing, then the Warriors offense would be much worse.

He is THE OUTLET for every Steph double team and Draymond plays the role perfectly.

[Dray n Klay]

No, LeBron got better stats than Curry this season

[Ben Simmons 25]

I like Steph. Dude is a gamer. He hits big shots.

However, in 2016, Lebron easily the best player in the NBA and also won the championship over Steph and the Warriors.

2016 LeBron was still the best for a series and for the playoffs... 2019, 2018, 2017... Steph.

But if you count regular season and playoffs, it's been Steph for probably 4 years, TBH. LeBron has been too old to put up a dominant regular season + dominant playoffs since about 2016. He's saved himself for the playoffs.

So I mean, we can start splitting hairs when we talk about what "best" really means but to me, it's... who is the most effective player for a regular season and postseason... and that answer to me has been Curry since the 2016 season.

[FKAri]

what? :oldlol:
He's talking about the legendary Brian Shaw. Yes. Kobe's teams were ****ing stacked.

[imdaman99]

It's debatable. But I would take Kawhi over him. He can take over games on both sides of the court. Curry has to do his best not to get in foul trouble on defense.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Draymond is HUGE for the offense as well. Without his IQ, ability to put the ball on the floor, and passing, then the Warriors offense would be much worse.

He is THE OUTLET for every Steph double team and Draymond plays the role perfectly.

This is correct, but the Warriors could drop Draymond with a lesser version of himself and be just fine. The Warriors couldn't drop Curry and be ok.

[StrongLurk]

This is correct, but the Warriors could drop Draymond with a lesser version of himself and be just fine. The Warriors couldn't drop Curry and be ok.

I know but Draymond has a similar effect as Curry on offense when they have the 2015/2016 lineup playing (like tonight).

Green's +- was just as high, maybe even higher than Curry's was in 2016...It's Green and Curry as a DUO on offense that is the double team combo breaker.

However I disagree with Curry being for sure the best player over since 2017...you are being a prisoner of the moment with that.

Curry has been top 3-4 though.

[sammichoffate]

No one can take over a game like Curry when he gets going, he'll get doubled from half court traps. Unreal offensive weapon

[DidUSaySomethin]

This is correct, but the Warriors could drop Draymond with a lesser version of himself and be just fine. The Warriors couldn't drop Curry and be ok.

they obviously need curry or KD to win it all but the warriors would easily make it to the WCF every year w/o both as long as they have kerr as coach

[red1]

He's talking about the legendary Brian Shaw. Yes. Kobe's teams were ****ing stacked.
plus rapist :eek:


It's debatable. But I would take Kawhi over him. He can take over games on both sides of the court. Curry has to do his best not to get in foul trouble on defense.
it's not even close. curry was puke-worthy the first 4 games of the series. giannis or kawhi would've already lost and been home if they played that poorly 4 games in a row.

[Walk on Water]

no he isn't :oldlol:


Actually, I think he is.

[SouBeachTalents]

they obviously need curry or KD to win it all but the warriors would easily make it to the WCF every year w/o both as long as they have kerr as coach
Make it to the WCF every year without Durant AND Curry? Nah :lol

[JohnMax]

Make it to the WCF every year without Durant AND Curry? Nah :lol

I no longer hate you after seeing all these racists posters on here. Can we please be friends?

[red1]

Actually, I think he is.
nah he's barely top-4.


giannis alone has absolutely destroyed what he's done in just 9 playoff games, let alone kd and kawhi.



curry himself said post-game that kd carried them when he played and they won this for kd. you can axe curry himself.

[Walk on Water]

nah he's barely top-4.


giannis alone has absolutely destroyed what he's done in just 9 playoff games, let alone kd and kawhi.



curry himself said post-game that kd carried them when he played and they won this for kd. you can axe curry himself.


I think Curry is the best player. I don’t care about Gianni’s whatever his name is.

[SouBeachTalents]

I no longer hate you after seeing all these racists posters on here. Can we please be friends?
Yes :cheers:

[red1]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]I think Curry is the best player. I don

[JohnMax]

Yes :cheers:

Thank you

[Walk on Water]

we gon see. curry will win a chip but if kd's healthy he'll get denied the fmvp again because kd is just better.


Red1... will you tell me what Curry

[red1]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]Red1... will you tell me what Curry

[warriorfan]

we gon see. curry will win a chip but if kd's healthy he'll get denied the fmvp again because kd is just better.

low low iq

[red1]

low low iq
I'm happy for you but I'll still **** you up and leave you unconscious in a dumpster.


Watch your mouth or should I say keyboard bitch. :D

[Gus Hemmingway]

heh, not even top 2 on his team this post season


been a 3rd wheel behind Klay/Dray 10/14 games this post season

[RRR3]

Yes :cheers:
This is so wholesome.


A nice change of pace for this board.

[red1]

This is so wholesome.


A nice change of pace for this board.
except johnmax is a ****** who steal posts from other boards word for word.




nothing wholesome about that fakkit shit.

[SpaceJam2]

2016 LeBron was still the best for a series and for the playoffs... 2019, 2018, 2017... Steph.

But if you count regular season and playoffs, it's been Steph for probably 4 years, TBH. LeBron has been too old to put up a dominant regular season + dominant playoffs since about 2016. He's saved himself for the playoffs.

So I mean, we can start splitting hairs when we talk about what "best" really means but to me, it's... who is the most effective player for a regular season and postseason... and that answer to me has been Curry since the 2016 season.

2017 and 2018?!

2017 Finals
Curry: 27-8-9 on 44/39/90
Bron: 34-12-10 on 56/39/65

2018 Finals
Curry: 27-6-7 on 40/41/100
Bron: 34-10-8 on 53/33/84

[Cleverness]

Here's the thing... Michael Jordan has confused multiple generations of players into thinking that iso scoring = optimal basketball. They didn't see and don't see how good of a team player Jordan was. His impact went beyond iso scoring. Anyhow... Kevin Durant is the best 1 on 1 player in the world and it's not close. He's one of the guys that was a product of Jordan's career.

They don't understand how ball dominance a la KD can cause teammates to become less versions of themselves.

But in terms of playing in an NBA game? Steph Curry >>>>>>>>>> Kevin Durant. This game proves it. Well, a much larger sample size than this game... it's just further confirmation, really.

It sucks, and it is what it is. I wish it was still LeBron, but everyone gets old.

Curry gets trapped as he's passing the half court line. That opens up so much for his team offensively, and he doesn't dominate the basketball. He keeps it moving. And just as important as moving the ball, he moves without the ball. That's absolutely vital for his effectiveness and not letting his team get stagnant.

Oh well, **** James Harden. That guy is the biggest fraud in NBA history. No, I'm not exaggerating.

Bingo

Nobody sees this. Steph got the double, passed to Draymond -> Iggy -> Klay 3... wow

Which other players needed to be double teamed 27 feet from the basket?

Also, imagine if Steph got that Harden treatment... the guy is literally held onto with 2 hands on inbounds. Also gets pushed, pulled, hugged, slapped, hand checked, armbars, bumped, etc. If he got any star treatment he'd have so many FTs he'd be unstoppable

Look at this one

https://twitter.com/TheWarriorsTalk/status/1126569209285079040

Clearly shoved in midair*.. NO CALL. WTF??

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron was easily the best in 2017 and 2018.

But Curry could be the best this year.

[GimmeThat]

He was +8 today, and unfortunately, Curry lives in the age of Point Guard dominated era.

It's the whole how big of a difference it is between 1st place and 2nd place.

[Walk on Water]

I watch the games dude. Curry klay dray iggy these guys have played together forever and already won a chip together of course they'll play well together.


When you add kd they're unbeatable. Without him... not so much.


You didn

[k0kakw0rld]

If Kawhi was hiding on defense people will curcify him for not showing up on defense. Curry isn't getting a pass.

[Ben Simmons 25]

LeBron was easily the best in 2017 and 2018.

But Curry could be the best this year.

No, he wasn't.

LeBron was probably still the best for a single game or maybe even a series, but to me, that's not how you define best... hell, LeBron is probably *STILL* the best for a single game, maybe even a series... but I mean...

You don't get to coast the entire regular season and maintain that title.

Steph Curry has self cucked by letting Durant onto his team, and it's the only reason this is even an argument.

Curry was better than LeBron as of probably the 2016 season, which would put it at 4 years total... though obviously the Finals was a different story.

[Hey Yo]

Here's the thing... Michael Jordan has confused multiple generations of players into thinking that iso scoring = optimal basketball. They didn't see and don't see how good of a team player Jordan was. His impact went beyond iso scoring. Anyhow... Kevin Durant is the best 1 on 1 player in the world and it's not close. He's one of the guys that was a product of Jordan's career.

They don't understand how ball dominance a la KD can cause teammates to become less versions of themselves.

But in terms of playing in an NBA game? Steph Curry >>>>>>>>>> Kevin Durant. This game proves it. Well, a much larger sample size than this game... it's just further confirmation, really.

It sucks, and it is what it is. I wish it was still LeBron, but everyone gets old.

Curry gets trapped as he's passing the half court line. That opens up so much for his team offensively, and he doesn't dominate the basketball. He keeps it moving. And just as important as moving the ball, he moves without the ball. That's absolutely vital for his effectiveness and not letting his team get stagnant.

Oh well, **** James Harden. That guy is the biggest fraud in NBA history. No, I'm not exaggerating.
At times...... just like many others before him.

[FKAri]

No, he wasn't.

LeBron was probably still the best for a single game or maybe even a series, but to me, that's not how you define best... hell, LeBron is probably *STILL* the best for a single game, maybe even a series... but I mean...

You don't get to coast the entire regular season and maintain that title.

Steph Curry has self cucked by letting Durant onto his team, and it's the only reason this is even an argument.

Curry was better than LeBron as of probably the 2016 season, which would put it at 4 years total... though obviously the Finals was a different story.
Curry coasts and puts up stinkers for long stretches of games while KD or Klay keep the team in the game. Other stars don't have that luxury.

[Hey Yo]

Curry's own teammate (Klay) knows that he isn't the best.

"If we want to get this 3-peat, we desperately need [Kevin Durant] back. He's our best player. ... It's not the same without him."

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1127089343913439232

[Ben Simmons 25]

Curry coasts and puts up stinkers for long stretches of games while KD or Klay keep the team in the game. Other stars don't have that luxury.

This is true.

I am looking forward to KD and Curry breaking up. It's needed for the league in multiple ways. It's also needed for both of these guys individually.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Curry's own teammate (Klay) knows that he isn't the best.

"If we want to get this 3-peat, we desperately need [Kevin Durant] back. He's our best player. ... It's not the same without him."

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1127089343913439232

KD is their best iso player. Their best in a vacuum 1 on 1 player. No doubt. And this confuses a lot of people. Always has, always will. People see great 1 on 1 players and great 1 on 5 players, and they think they're the best...

But impact is the most important thing in basketball. This is why I say Bill Russell is the GOAT. Steph's impact and ability to change the game without doing it individually statistically is what puts him above KD. These guys elevates teams far beyond what they would otherwise be. KD obviously helps teams win also, but the difference in how they do it is rather dramatic. It's rather evident, if you pay attention.

[k0kakw0rld]

KD is their best iso player. Their best in a vacuum 1 on 1 player. No doubt. And this confuses a lot of people.

But impact is the most important thing in basketball. This is why I say Bill Russell is the GOAT. Steph's impact and ability to change the game without doing it individually statistically is what puts him above KD.
0 point scored at halftime but the game is tied.

That impact indeed :roll: :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

KD is their best iso player. Their best in a vacuum 1 on 1 player. No doubt. And this confuses a lot of people. Always has, always will. People see great 1 on 1 players and great 1 on 5 players, and they think they're the best...

But impact is the most important thing in basketball. This is why I say Bill Russell is the GOAT. Steph's impact and ability to change the game without doing it individually statistically is what puts him above KD. These guys elevates teams far beyond what they would otherwise be. KD obviously helps teams win also, but the difference in how they do it is rather dramatic. It's rather evident, if you pay attention.
How did Steph elevate his team and change the game last night while on the bench for long stretches in the first half?

[Ben Simmons 25]

How did Steph elevate his team and change the game last night while on the bench for long stretches in the first half?

Just because he's not literally the same guy in every moment of every single game doesn't disprove my point, lol.

[Hey Yo]

Just because he's not literally the same guy in every moment of every single game doesn't disprove my point, lol.
So he elevates them "sometimes" but not all the time.

big difference

[Ben Simmons 25]

So he elevates them "sometimes" but not all the time.

big difference

:facepalm

[warriorfan]

The state of lebron fans right now

:roll:

[Ben Simmons 25]

The state of lebron fans right now

:roll:

I'm a LeBron fan... I'm just not a delusional asshole about it.

LeBron is still probably capable of putting up one game or one series better than anyone else... but consistency matters... it's Curry, has been since 2016. 4 years, really.

[warriorfan]

I'm a LeBron fan... I'm just not a delusional asshole about it.

LeBron is still probably capable of putting up one game or one series better than anyone else... but consistency matters... it's Curry, has been since 2016. 4 years, really.

For sure. You know whom I

[Bronbron23]

Here's the thing... Michael Jordan has confused multiple generations of players into thinking that iso scoring = optimal basketball. They didn't see and don't see how good of a team player Jordan was. His impact went beyond iso scoring. Anyhow... Kevin Durant is the best 1 on 1 player in the world and it's not close. He's one of the guys that was a product of Jordan's career.

They don't understand how ball dominance a la KD can cause teammates to become less versions of themselves.

But in terms of playing in an NBA game? Steph Curry >>>>>>>>>> Kevin Durant. This game proves it. Well, a much larger sample size than this game... it's just further confirmation, really.

It sucks, and it is what it is. I wish it was still LeBron, but everyone gets old.

Curry gets trapped as he's passing the half court line. That opens up so much for his team offensively, and he doesn't dominate the basketball. He keeps it moving. And just as important as moving the ball, he moves without the ball. That's absolutely vital for his effectiveness and not letting his team get stagnant.

Oh well, **** James Harden. That guy is the biggest fraud in NBA history. No, I'm not exaggerating.
Not even close and mj didn't play iso ball dude he played in the triangle offence:facepalm

[Stephonit]

The Curry Warriors faced some of the best duos according to conventional thinking and beat them. Westbrook and KD. Harden and CP3. From a traditional viewpoint Steph and Klay shouldn't stand a chance but the fact is the Splash Brothers won.

[elementally morale]

Long before the playoffs started I created a thread telling everyone I'd pick Steph Curry if I want to win it all this year. He is the player that changes everything on the court. He is the hardest to plan against. Sure, you can shut him down individually but basketball being a team sport I said I'd still take him if I had to choose one player only.

So yes. He is the best player. Not the best individual player but it doesn't
matter.

In terms of impact I'd go:


Curry
Kawhi
Jokic
Giannis
Embiid

[Ben Simmons 25]

Not even close and mj didn't play iso ball dude he played in the triangle offence:facepalm

Actually, I was spot on.

And I wasn't saying that MJ played ISO ball. I said he played team basketball better than most people believe. But MJ was so incredible as an individual that it birthed ISO ball. That was the point.

[FKAri]

Long before the playoffs started I created a thread telling everyone I'd pick Steph Curry if I want to win it all this year. He is the player that changes everything on the court. He is the hardest to plan against. Sure, you can shut him down individually but basketball being a team sport I said I'd still take him if I had to choose one player only.

So yes. He is the best player. Not the best individual player but it doesn't
matter.

In terms of impact I'd go:


Curry
Kawhi
Jokic
Giannis
Embiid
Jokic over Embiid is a pretty hot take.

[elementally morale]

Jokic over Embiid is a pretty hot take.

One I've had for like a year now.

Individually Embiid would probably beat Jokic. But in a team game... no. I'm actually a fan of both. A year ago I couldn't decide who would be better beacuse I saw Hakeem kind of talent in Embiid. Jokic seems to have improved more.

95% of this board just underestimates the team game. I mean: actual basketball.

[TheCorporation]

2017 and 2018?!

2017 Finals
Curry: 27-8-9 on 44/39/90
Bron: 34-12-10 on 56/39/65

2018 Finals
Curry: 27-6-7 on 40/41/100
Bron: 34-10-8 on 53/33/84

Still LeBron in '17 and '18

Curry might be in 2019 if KD stays away long enough :lol

[FKAri]

One I've had for like a year now.

Individually Embiid would probably beat Jokic. But in a team game... no. I'm actually a fan of both. A year ago I couldn't decide who would be better beacuse I saw Hakeem kind of talent in Embiid. Jokic seems to have improved more.

95% of this board just underestimates the team game. I mean: actual basketball.
No. You underestimate the guard talent around Jokic. A healthy Embiid puts tremendous pressure on a defense. Philly has 0 speedy dynamic guards. You need those in today's league. Philly has great talent but it's useless when put together. iso mid range play of the kind that Butler provides does not distort a defense. Simmons' defender is playing free safety. This is not an environment where he can shine. The only reason to take Jokic over Embiid is health. That's it.

[tontoz]

Not sure if Steph is the best player but I am sure he has been underrated since KD joined them. Next year I expect him to remind everyone why he was a 2 time MVP.

The 4th quarters of the last 2 games were a preview.

[Bronbron23]

Actually, I was spot on.

And I wasn't saying that MJ played ISO ball. I said he played team basketball better than most people believe. But MJ was so incredible as an individual that it birthed ISO ball. That was the point.
Well curry definitely deserves credit for playing team ball I'll give you that. He doesn't need heavy usage to be effective. I disagree with him being the best player. He's top 5 but not the best.

[Cleverness]

No, he wasn't.

LeBron was probably still the best for a single game or maybe even a series, but to me, that's not how you define best... hell, LeBron is probably *STILL* the best for a single game, maybe even a series... but I mean...

You don't get to coast the entire regular season and maintain that title.

Steph Curry has self cucked by letting Durant onto his team, and it's the only reason this is even an argument.

Curry was better than LeBron as of probably the 2016 season, which would put it at 4 years total... though obviously the Finals was a different story.

Spot on as always

Draymond says it's easy to take possessions off on offense and just hand it to Durant to go get a bucket. Durant best 1v1 player. This is much different than Warriors pre-Durant.

I watched every Warriors game (82 + playoffs) from 2014 to 2016, and most of 2017. Curry was downright special to watch. Star of the show every night and turned the team into greatness. With Durant the offense turned into a part-time all-star game.

[warriorfan]

Spot on as always

Draymond says it's easy to take possessions off on offense and just hand it to Durant to go get a bucket. Durant best 1v1 player. This is much different than Warriors pre-Durant.

I watched every Warriors game (82 + playoffs) from 2014 to 2016, and most of 2017. Curry was downright special to watch. Star of the show every night and turned the team into greatness. With Durant the offense turned into a part-time all-star game.

Amen

[UK2K]

Regardless of what Curry does on the offensive end...

Opposing teams specifically gameplan to attack him on the defensive end, because its effective and he cant guard anybody.

If Harden played defense as poorly as him, he'd be crucified.

Only star in the league that is the focus of the other teams offensive gameplan. You'll never see opposing teams try to get Lebron, Giannis, or hell, even Harden on a switch just to attack them.

[Stephonit]

Curry has been the best player the past few years. The inescapable objective conclusion despite all the noise.

[Axe]

Curry has been the best player the past few years. The inescapable objective conclusion despite all the noise.
HAHAHAHAHA omfg what

[Duncan21formvp]

Durant and then Kawhi the last 3 years.

[Stephonit]

Durant and then Kawhi the last 3 years.

Those 2 played in all the finals games the last 3 years? Didn't know.

[light]

Steph is not even half as good as LeBron.

He's not All-Star caliber if he isn't making threes.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Curry with Iggy and Draymond couldn't even get past Kyle Lowry's Raps

[Axe]

Those 2 played in all the finals games the last 3 years? Didn't know.
Kawhi played first in the finals 7 years ago before your lover ever did

[Stephonit]

About 3 years now? More like 5.

[Axe]

About 3 years now? More like 5.
How 'bout never?

[Stephonit]

How 'bout never?

Sure Mac. Best 5-year stretch in NBA history but he wasn't the best player during any of it. This is how you know the media has successfully brainwashed you.

[Axe]

Sure Mac. Best 5-year stretch in NBA history but he wasn't the best player during any of it. This is how you know the media has successfully brainwashed you.
Let's just say that i don't recognize him because you are here, mrs. ayesha.

[Stephonit]

Steph is not even half as good as LeBron.

He's not All-Star caliber if he isn't making threes.

LeBron? Why bring up that lesser player? He should be honored he was able to scrape together a victory in one of their four finals encounters even if it needed the league swooping in to save him to happen. His fans are now touting that win and parading it all around as LeBron's greatest achievement.

[SATAN]

https://i.postimg.cc/LsFGcZSJ/ezgif-com-gif-maker.gif