View Full Version : New Lakers coach will be Frank Vogel, with Jason Kidd as assistant
bladefd
05-11-2019, 06:40 PM
Former Orlando Magic and Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel has emerged as the front-runner to be offered the Los Angeles Lakers' head-coaching job, league sources told ESPN.
The Lakers are planning to pair Jason Kidd with Vogel as an assistant coach, league sources said.
Vogel's emerging candidacy speaks to the significant influence of Lakers adviser Kurt Rambis and former coach Phil Jackson, whose opinions weigh heavily with owner Jeanie Buss. Vogel was the runner-up to Jeff Hornacek when Jackson hired a New York Knicks replacement for Derek Fisher in the summer of 2016.
Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka has spent the past few days gathering information from those who have worked with both Vogel and Kidd about how they believe those two could complement each other on a Lakers coaching staff, league sources said.http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26723733/sources-vogel-now-front-runner-lakers-job
I like that idea! I would be interested in knowing who else would be on the coaching staff. Maybe Mike Woodson or Tom Thibodeau (sp). JB bickerstaff would be good assistant coach, perhaps bring in LeBron's buddy Juwan Howard to keep LeBron happy.
bison
05-11-2019, 07:06 PM
Looks like it’s official now. Lakers have hired Vogel for head coach and kidd as assistant. I like it tbh. Kidd can help develop younger players and vogel can get bron to play defense maybe
RealSkipBayless
05-11-2019, 07:07 PM
[QUOTE=bison]Looks like it
oh the horror
05-11-2019, 07:08 PM
[QUOTE=bison]Looks like it
Doranku
05-11-2019, 07:10 PM
That's going to be awesome....LeBron will now quit in training camp.
Can't think of a much worse fit to coach LeBron. Jersey boy that isn't gonna take any of LeBron's shit who runs his players into the ground.
That's going to be a great relationship. :oldlol:
bladefd
05-11-2019, 07:11 PM
I Feel better about this than I did Luke and for damn sure Lue.
Vogel + Kidd is solid. Not amazing and not terrible but a decent move by the front office.
At this point we really need to see who they can land in the offseason as far as players go.
We need to also see who the other assistant coaches are. Luke didn't have very good assistant coaches so we need to do better there.
NBAGOAT
05-11-2019, 07:15 PM
vogel was easily the best choice left. As others have said, we'll see how happy lebron is however
theballerFKA Ace
05-11-2019, 07:20 PM
:rockon: :rockon: :bowdown:
Hold this L Lebron fam! :roll:
Lebron ain't the King anymore and the Lakers franchise is much bigger than him even at his peak anyway. Bow down before the purple and gold, this is by FAR the best of the options that were floated out there recently. Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhh bruh.
Real Men Wear Green
05-11-2019, 07:21 PM
So they've already lined up the replacement for after the new HC gets fired. Super.
Milbuck
05-11-2019, 07:22 PM
They actually hired this egomaniacal wife beating moron, even as an assistant :oldlol:
Kiddlefinger will be HC by March I'm guessing.
They actually hired this egomaniacal wife beating moron, even as an assistant :oldlol:
Kiddlefinger will be HC by March I'm guessing.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Bosnian Sajo
05-11-2019, 07:34 PM
I'm not mad at this at all, Vogel is a fine coach and I like Kidd as an assistant, especially for Lonzo. Much better than Lue.
Thank God this coach search is over...now whose the president gonna be lol.
Jasper
05-11-2019, 07:36 PM
SPENDING MILLIONS MORE THAN HAVING LUE ...
lakers preciously so smart...
Im so nba'd out
05-11-2019, 07:44 PM
One of the worst most overrated coaches of all-time :oldlol:....Lakers hold this L #jeaniesell #OrlandoRemembers
Ben Simmons for LeBron?
bobopenguin
05-11-2019, 07:44 PM
will lebron listen to a white coach?
BallsOut
05-11-2019, 07:45 PM
So they've already lined up the replacement for after the new HC gets fired. Super.
The LA Lakers. The only Franchise who hires the coach they'll fire in a season's replacement just to make that man the new coach.
For all we know Kidd was the target all along :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Bosnian Sajo
05-11-2019, 08:06 PM
SPENDING MILLIONS MORE THAN HAVING LUE ...
lakers preciously so smart...
How do you know this, when no one has posted the dollar amount he has agreed to other than the fact that it is a 3 year deal?
Hilarious how everyone except for Lakers fans are mad about this hire. That is a good sign :rockon:
Bosnian Sajo
05-11-2019, 08:09 PM
One of the worst most overrated coaches of all-time :oldlol:....Lakers hold this L #jeaniesell #OrlandoRemembers
Ben Simmons for LeBron?
Overrated? Because of 2 seasons with the Magic who have been an awful team since even before Dwight left?
The fact that the Magic made the playoffs this year was a fluke. Vucevic played his best year due to it being a contract year (his last big contract) and adding young players like Mo Bamba. Birch, and Grant to get their defense better.
I'm not saying Vogel is an AMAZING coach, but let's not act the Pacers were not a good team under him. The only season they missed the playoffs was when Paul George got injured, and even then they almost made it.
will be one of the best coaches that lebron will have played with....and that's kind of sad.
Manny98
05-11-2019, 08:25 PM
Vogel is a decent coach, them Pacers teams were all time great defensively, got to the conference finals twice and took LeBron to 7 games
Kidd is good with players and is perfect for Lonzos development and LeBron likes him so that's a +
Milbuck
05-11-2019, 08:43 PM
Vogel could be a solid coach, I have no strong opinion of him. Just gotta wait and see with him.
But Kidd as an absolute dumpster fire of a coach and this media push to paint him as this stud player development coach is pretty funny. I guess with Giannis turning into a great player, that's literally the only thing they could maybe spin as a positive for Kidd, given that it's hard to dispute how trash he is at everything else.
PickernRoller
05-11-2019, 08:52 PM
White Coach.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
:hammertime:
qrich
05-11-2019, 08:56 PM
Can't think of a much worse fit to coach LeBron. Jersey boy that isn't gonna take any of LeBron's shit who runs his players into the ground.
That's going to be a great relationship. :oldlol:
My post was deleted by the mods :roll:
Vogel is a solid coach, think he's a better assistant, but LeBron and him :roll:
Bosnian Sajo
05-11-2019, 08:57 PM
Vogel could be a solid coach, I have no strong opinion of him. Just gotta wait and see with him.
But Kidd as an absolute dumpster fire of a coach and this media push to paint him as this stud player development coach is pretty funny. I guess with Giannis turning into a great player, that's literally the only thing they could maybe spin as a positive for Kidd, given that it's hard to dispute how trash he is at everything else.
I mean how much damage could he do as an assistant...not even a lead assistant, just an assistant coach.
I get it, he didn't do a GREAT job in Milwaukee (still made the playoffs 2/3 years)..but at the end of the day he was always referred to as one of the players with the highest IQ's and I'm sure that will at least translate into good advice and mentoring for Lonzo, especially considering they play the game identically.
I'd MUCH rather have Vogel/Kidd than Lue and anyone, that's for sure.
RoseCity07
05-11-2019, 09:00 PM
Doesn't Lebron hate playing for white coaches?:lol
He got Blatt fired for a nobody scrub coach in Lue. Now Luke gone. This is a nightmare for Bran.
qrich
05-11-2019, 09:02 PM
Vogels going to get canned a couple months in and Kidd is going to take over to "appease" Bran.
Pelinka needs to find a taker for Bran, asap. Call up Boston, Hayward + Brown + Memphis pick + Clips pick for Bran.
bladefd
05-11-2019, 09:04 PM
I mean how much damage could he do as an assistant...not even a lead assistant, just an assistant coach.
I get it, he didn't do a GREAT job in Milwaukee (still made the playoffs 2/3 years)..but at the end of the day he was always referred to as one of the players with the highest IQ's and I'm sure that will at least translate into good advice and mentoring for Lonzo, especially considering they play the game identically.
I'd MUCH rather have Vogel/Kidd than Lue and anyone, that's for sure.
I think Kidd would be the lead assistant, at least that's how it's being advertised so far :confusedshrug:
coin24
05-11-2019, 09:07 PM
Why did the mods delete my post??
They hired Vogel who is blatantly going to be thrown under the bus.
Bran doesn't play for white coaches
Why are they picking vogels staff for him??
Milbuck
05-11-2019, 09:09 PM
I mean how much damage could he do as an assistant...not even a lead assistant, just an assistant coach.
I get it, he didn't do a GREAT job in Milwaukee (still made the playoffs 2/3 years)..but at the end of the day he was always referred to as one of the players with the highest IQ's and I'm sure that will at least translate into good advice and mentoring for Lonzo, especially considering they play the game identically.
I'd MUCH rather have Vogel/Kidd than Lue and anyone, that's for sure.
He was a straight up terrible coach in Milwaukee. Literally the worst in the league and one of the worst in recent memory.
His BBIQ didn
qrich
05-11-2019, 09:12 PM
Why did the mods delete my post??
They hired Vogel who is blatantly going to be thrown under the bus.
Bran doesn't play for white coaches
Why are they picking vogels staff for him??
They also deleted mine :roll:
Foster5k
05-11-2019, 09:16 PM
Lebron needs to dip. Lakers are a joke! The ownership and ENTIRE front office is in shambles. GET OUT LEBRON!!! RUN!!!
PickernRoller
05-11-2019, 09:21 PM
Lebron needs to dip. Lakers are a joke! The ownership and ENTIRE front office is in shambles. GET OUT LEBRON!!! RUN!!!
Ohh I would love to see that.... Run!! ForesBran Run!!!
The Iron Fist
05-11-2019, 09:36 PM
Lebron will be traded is the best thing to come out of this.:applause:
The Iron Fist
05-11-2019, 09:37 PM
will be one of the best coaches that lebron will have played with....and that's kind of sad.
That
Smoke117
05-11-2019, 09:41 PM
It's going to be great when, half way through the season, they fire Vogel and promote that moron Kidd to the the head coaching position. :lol
GreatHILL
05-11-2019, 09:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6Or0FCXsAMeItu.jpg:large
coin24
05-11-2019, 10:05 PM
Lebron will be traded is the best thing to come out of this.:applause:
This would be the best outcome :applause:
Hey Yo
05-11-2019, 10:29 PM
Why did the mods delete my post??
They hired Vogel who is blatantly going to be thrown under the bus.
Bran doesn't play for white coaches
Why are they picking vogels staff for him??
:oldlol:
But I thought LeBron hand picks all his coaches???
Why would he hire him if he plans on throwing him under the bus??
dumb....
FKAri
05-11-2019, 11:02 PM
Lebron will be traded is the best thing to come out of this.:applause:
Lebron will boot the Lakers to Nebraska and start his own franchise in LA.
stalkerforlife
05-11-2019, 11:05 PM
So Kidd is the HC and they hired white dude to save Bran's racist image.
Nooooice.
k0kakw0rld
05-12-2019, 12:07 AM
They actually hired this egomaniacal wife beating moron, even as an assistant :oldlol:
Kiddlefinger will be HC by March I'm guessing.
More finals appearances and won a ring something your franchise player can not say.
Oh btw Kidd made Giannis.
Milbuck
05-12-2019, 12:17 AM
More finals appearances and won a ring something your franchise player can not say.
Oh btw Kidd made Giannis.
Kidd didn't do shit for Giannis :oldlol: Worst coach in NBA history and unsurprisingly the Bucks took off the moment his dumb ass got fired :lol
The Iron Fist
05-12-2019, 12:21 AM
Lebron will boot the Lakers to Nebraska and start his own franchise in LA.
This post just screams hurt.
k0kakw0rld
05-12-2019, 12:24 AM
Kidd didn't do shit for Giannis :oldlol: Worst coach in NBA history and unsurprisingly the Bucks took off the moment his dumb ass got fired :lol
That's a massive lie. Giannis is here to testify.
Front office did a great job surrounding him with shooters which he didn't have necessarily in the past. He wasn't the greatest coach but when you got Michael Carter Williams as your starting PG :facepalm Not sure what type of expectations you can realistically have.
Milbuck
05-12-2019, 12:30 AM
That's a massive lie. Giannis is here to testify.
Front office did a great job surrounding him with shooters which he didn't have necessarily in the past. He wasn't the greatest coach but when you got Michael Carter Williams as your starting PG :facepalm Not sure what type of expectations you can realistically have.
I love Giannis but his words don't mean shit on this topic, he will literally never say a bad thing about anyone in the organization. It's not in his makeup.
Kidd was a trash fire of a coach. Terrible at pretty much every facet of the job. Sorry you're a fan of Kidd the player but Kidd the coach was a complete failure.
highwhey
05-12-2019, 12:35 AM
I love Giannis but his words don't mean shit on this topic, he will literally never say a bad thing about anyone in the organization. It's not in his makeup.
Kidd was a trash fire of a coach. Terrible at pretty much every facet of the job. Sorry you're a fan of Kidd the player but Kidd the coach was a complete failure.
i think Kidd has some value on a team to mentor a PG. i definitely wouldn't hire him as a HC. but some role to mentor a PG would be of value. then again, if he tries to create a power struggle, i'd fire his ass.
Milbuck
05-12-2019, 12:37 AM
i think Kidd has some value on a team to mentor a PG. i definitely wouldn't hire him as a HC. but some role to mentor a PG would be of value. then again, if he tries to create a power struggle, i'd fire his ass.
That's the problem though. He's a complete egomaniac and will almost certainly try to gain power and more influence on whatever. And if it's not him directly, it'll probably be the Lakers FO or even LeBron.
highwhey
05-12-2019, 12:49 AM
That's the problem though. He's a complete egomaniac and will almost certainly try to gain power and more influence on whatever. And if it's not him directly, it'll probably be the Lakers FO or even LeBron.
i'll take your word for it since i'm not too familiar with Kidd's antics as a coach being a Suns fan.
either way, this hire doesn't make sense bc Vogel is not a match for Bron and Kidd will definitely usurp Vogel in the near future.
superduper
05-12-2019, 01:10 AM
Give or take 3 months before Bran throws Vogel under the bus?
Give or take 3 months before Bran throws Vogel under the bus?
Bran Bran Bran :mad:
329 Services
05-12-2019, 01:22 AM
Totally bad fit, Vogel made his name with the Pacers. Old school basketball, when he had Hibbert at Center and Davis West at PF. Lakers have no one for that type of basketball. Vogel isnt suitable for Lakers small ball lineups.
L8krH8tr
05-12-2019, 01:37 AM
Fakers are done for i love it.
raprap
05-12-2019, 02:45 AM
Jason Kidd :roll: :facepalm you just know they
sbw19
05-12-2019, 07:15 AM
A power move by the Lakers FO. LeBron should know Laker history, 15 banners, all won by white coaches IIRC.
If he has a problem with hiring a coach like Vogel, then he should come out publically and say so. If not, he ought to act like the professional veteran that he is and just focus on what he can control.
PickernRoller
05-12-2019, 07:32 AM
Kinda flies the fact that we're already predicting how long Vogel's stay as the Lakers head coach is gonna be. All cause Bran is that much of a cancer and a coach killer.
Hey Yo
05-12-2019, 10:34 AM
Kinda flies the fact that we're already predicting how long Vogel's stay as the Lakers head coach is gonna be. All cause Bran is that much of a cancer and a coach killer.
Your hero Kobe had more coaches than LeBron has had.
:oldlol: dumbass
LostCause
05-12-2019, 11:08 AM
This is pretty bad both on the surface and below
Vogel won’t get much respect from the players. Kidd won’t even really respect Vogel. Basically hired the guys replacement before hiring him, which is a terrible dynamic
Not even mentioning the fact that neither coach is actually strong at the X’s and O’s
oh the horror
05-12-2019, 11:16 AM
For the people that didn
bladefd
05-12-2019, 03:31 PM
[QUOTE=raprap]Jason Kidd :roll: :facepalm you just know they
Lebron23
05-20-2020, 11:32 PM
This is pretty bad both on the surface and below
Vogel won’t get much respect from the players. Kidd won’t even really respect Vogel. Basically hired the guys replacement before hiring him, which is a terrible dynamic
Not even mentioning the fact that neither coach is actually strong at the X’s and O’s
Frank Vogel turned the Lakers into a defensive juggernaut.
DoctorP
05-21-2020, 12:13 AM
Vogels legit
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