View Full Version : DO sixers give max time Butler and Harris?
HALLandOATES
05-13-2019, 03:16 PM
theyre both gonna want the 5yr 180mil or whatever it is max..
id say yes to butler and offer 120mil harris 5yrs or 1yr 30mil
ArbitraryWater
05-13-2019, 03:18 PM
interesting.
surely they cant hold both?
NBAGOAT
05-13-2019, 03:20 PM
agree with your offers. max for harris is too much. they can definitely sign both but there will be a repeater tax
Manny98
05-13-2019, 03:20 PM
Harris ain't worth close to max money lol
I expect Sixers to offer Jimmy max money after his play this postseason. He deserves it
Meticode
05-13-2019, 03:31 PM
interesting.
surely they cant hold both?
They can hold both, but they'd be paying out the ass in luxury tax.
sixerfan82
05-13-2019, 03:33 PM
max jimmy
offer harris 10-12M a year
dazzer87
05-13-2019, 03:35 PM
Harris NO
Butler Yes. If not Butler will get it from somewhere else.
Xiao Yao You
05-13-2019, 03:55 PM
Harris NO
Butler Yes. If not Butler will get it from somewhere else.
they will both get it somewhere
NBASTATMAN
05-13-2019, 04:17 PM
Neither are max players..
Butler probably worth 30 million in today's NBA.. While Tobias only plays offense and no defense.. Tobias is going to get 20-25 million a year imo..
ONly guys worth the max are the true superstars.. If you are a player like Kyrie who isnt a superstar but can fill the seats you will get the max. But he isnt going to impact a team like a true superstar will.
Kawhi, AD, LEBRON, KD, KLAY, CURRY, HARDEN, JOKIC, LILLARD, GIANNIS, are worth max deals. .
BallsOut
05-13-2019, 04:19 PM
Neither are max players..
Butler probably worth 30 million in today's NBA.. While Tobias only plays offense and no defense.. Tobias is going to get 20-25 million a year imo..
ONly guys worth the max are the true superstars.. If you are a player like Kyrie who isnt a superstar but can fill the seats you will get the max. But he isnt going to impact a team like a true superstar will.
Kawhi, AD, LEBRON, KD, KLAY, CURRY, HARDEN, JOKIC, LILLARD, GIANNIS, are worth max deals. .
LeBron? The guy that doesn't play defense? The guy that can't even get to the playoffs in the West? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
RealSkipBayless
05-13-2019, 05:02 PM
Prob gonna end up maxing Butler then trading Simmons for a better fitting piece. They can still absorb salary when doing the trade as well.
NBASTATMAN
05-13-2019, 05:02 PM
LeBron? The guy that doesn't play defense? The guy that can't even get to the playoffs in the West? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
lebron's defense was rated better than KD'S this season.. All while being injured and having 56 k minutes on his legs..
LEBRON IS DEF THE GOAT
NBASTATMAN
05-13-2019, 05:03 PM
Harris ain't worth close to max money lol
I expect Sixers to offer Jimmy max money after his play this postseason. He deserves it
Butler isnt a SUPERSTAR but he def competes like one.. He almost took that series from KAWHI..
KAWHI def much better though
coin24
05-13-2019, 06:22 PM
Yeah lock up jimmy, he's the only one with any heart.
Harris isn't worth more than $10m per, what did he do in the playoffs?
I'd be trying to move Simmons he is trash, if they can land a better pg that can hit the 3 do it !!!!
tontoz
05-13-2019, 07:02 PM
FWIW on the radio today i heard that Harris doesn't like it there.
E_Stamkos
05-13-2019, 07:07 PM
max jimmy
offer harris 10-12M a year
Harris' agent wipes his @sshole with anything south of 20 per
DaHeezy
05-14-2019, 12:39 AM
Doesn't Redick need to be resigned too?
And1AllDay
05-14-2019, 12:54 AM
I thot james Butler is going to Brooklyn?
NBAGOAT
05-14-2019, 01:08 AM
So both guys are yeasr 7-9 and jimmy doesnt qualify for the supermax since he's on a different team from his rookie contract.
It is 4yrs 140 from someone else, 5 yrs 189 from philly roughly.
Butler will get the max from someone. Harris wont but I can easily see someone like Utah throwing a 4yr 120 type deal at him.
bobopenguin
05-14-2019, 01:32 AM
whichever GM offers Harris MAX should get fired.
brooks_thompson
05-14-2019, 02:50 AM
Harris turned down a $20 mil per extension to bet on himself. And while I think he still gets the $20 mil per (and probably more due to cap space available), he lost that bet on principle if not in reality.
iamgine
05-14-2019, 03:11 AM
Jimmy is 30...5 years max seems risky.
S&T Jimmy, Ben and Tobias for Anthony Davis and Jrue.
fourkicks44
05-14-2019, 12:10 PM
Butler and Harris will be given what they want. The only thing that will change this is if the don't want to be here. Ownership is willing to go into the luxury tax.
Brett Brown is coming back. Josh Harris has also said this publicly.
Simmons ( who is STILL ROTY as of right now) and Embiid are going nowhere.
One bullshit shot by Kawhi is the only reason the Sixers are not in the ECF. People are trying to make way too much out of it. Haters be on notice. We will be back.
Trust the process.
Neither worth max but Butler will for sure get max. Not even up for debate. Harris you don
Phenith
05-14-2019, 01:32 PM
Their priority this off season needs to be a point guard that can shoot, they should be going after Irving or Walker, then signing Butler and letting Harris walk.
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 01:33 PM
Their priority this off season needs to be a point guard that can shoot, they should be going after Irving or Walker, then signing Butler and letting Harris walk.
they have cap space to go after them?
fourkicks44
05-14-2019, 01:51 PM
Their priority this off season needs to be a point guard that can shoot, they should be going after Irving or Walker, then signing Butler and letting Harris walk.
Don't ever forget Brett Brow is Kyrie's godfather. They are super close. Improbable that the Sixers xan get him. But Brown is his family.
Phenith
05-14-2019, 02:50 PM
they have cap space to go after them?
I'm not actually sure, they don't have any big contracts as far as I know, Embiid has his deal, but Simmons is still on rookie scale, they should have money for free agents before they use bird rights to sign Butler and/or Harris.
sixerfan82
05-14-2019, 02:53 PM
Butler and Harris will be given what they want. The only thing that will change this is if the don't want to be here. Ownership is willing to go into the luxury tax.
Brett Brown is coming back. Josh Harris has also said this publicly.
Simmons ( who is STILL ROTY as of right now) and Embiid are going nowhere.
One bullshit shot by Kawhi is the only reason the Sixers are not in the ECF. People are trying to make way too much out of it. Haters be on notice. We will be back.
Trust the process.
You know it's kinda funny..it's a bs shot that wouldn't have even been possible if 1/3rd of Toronto's rebounds weren't on the offensive glass.
Way to give up 20-25 more shots :confusedshrug:
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 02:55 PM
https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/247355/The-Maximum-Available-2018-Cap-Space-For-All-30-NBA-Teams
looks like they do. Simmons has to be paid after next year too
Smoke117
05-14-2019, 02:55 PM
whichever GM offers Harris MAX should get fired.
That's only fair if it's a big market. GM's on small market teams have to take the table scraps they get. Is Tobias Harris close to an max player? Of course not. That isn't going to change the fact that some small market team will max him out this off summer as that's the best they can get.
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 03:03 PM
That's only fair if it's a big market. GM's on small market teams have to take the table scraps they get. Is Tobias Harris close to an max player? Of course not. That isn't going to change the fact that some small market team will max him out this off summer as that's the best they can get.
He supposedly likes Utah which is enough for them to go after him. They also need a modern 4 more than anything. He would make them better but so would anyone that fits unlike Ricky, Exum and Favors. Conley was the best fit for them. Blew that one big time!
Smoke117
05-14-2019, 03:06 PM
He supposedly likes Utah which is enough for them to go after him. They also need a modern 4 more than anything. He would make them better but so would anyone that fits unlike Ricky, Exum and Favors. Conley was the best fit for them. Blew that one big time!
There you go. The Jazz are a team that has to settle for FA's like this. Also, he doesn't like Utah. He likes the fact that Utah will pay him what he wants. lol You will be paying him the max while he barely moves the bar. (if he does even one bit) He's not a game changer whatsoever. I'd rather have Joe Ingles who will be making 1/3rd or less of what Harris will be making on the floor.
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 03:09 PM
There you go. The Jazz are a team that has to settle for FA's like that. Also, he doesn't like Utah. He likes the fact that Utah will pay him what he wants. lol You will be paying him the max while he barely moves the bar. (if he does even one bit) He's not a game changer whatsoever. I'd rather have Joe Ingles on the floor.
Supposedly he said he likes the way they play. Mirotic wanted to come to Utah as well. Some players like playing team ball and not iso as hard as that is to believe. He certainly makes them better. Ingles would still be on the floor and be even that much more effective because Favors, Exum, and Ricky's guys aren't free to roam
pay butler pass on harris
NBAGOAT
05-14-2019, 03:22 PM
Supposedly he said he likes the way they play. Mirotic wanted to come to Utah as well. Some players like playing team ball and not iso as hard as that is to believe. He certainly makes them better. Ingles would still be on the floor and be even that much more effective because Favors, Exum, and Ricky's guys aren't free to roam
mirotic could work pretty well. Just get shooters to replace crowder and rubio's minutes. Neither are good enough/have the right attributes to be starters on a true contender
Smoke117
05-14-2019, 03:26 PM
Supposedly he said he likes the way they play. Mirotic wanted to come to Utah as well. Some players like playing team ball and not iso as hard as that is to believe. He certainly makes them better. Ingles would still be on the floor and be even that much more effective because Favors, Exum, and Ricky's guys aren't free to roam
lol team ball. Team ball is standing around while Donovan Mitchell chucks up 22-25 shots a game while making 8-10 shots? Tobias Harris signing with the Jazz is literally him saying he just wants the most money he can get and doesn't care about winning. The Jazz haven't played any kind of team ball since 2017 when Hayward was there.
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 03:27 PM
mirotic could work pretty well. Just get shooters to replace crowder and rubio's minutes. Neither are good enough/have the right attributes to be starters on a true contender
Rubio, Favors and Exum are the big problems. They made over 40 million and don't fit. Crowder won't be going anywhere. A reduced role ideally though. The Jazz targeted Mirotic when they played him in the pick and roll so I'm not so sure they are as high on him as he is on them
Xiao Yao You
05-14-2019, 03:28 PM
lol team ball. Team ball is standing around while Donovan Mitchell chucks up 22-25 shots a game while making 8-10 shots? Tobias Harris signing with the Jazz is literally him saying he just wants the most money he can get and doesn't care about winning.
The Jazz pass the ball more than anyone. Mitchell has to shoot because Rubio was the 2nd option!
MJistheGOAT
05-14-2019, 04:09 PM
Max Butler, ideally not more than 4y.
Offer Harris 20-25M or let him walk.
Trade Simmons for a shooting true PG.
Keep Embiid.
qrich
05-14-2019, 05:25 PM
whichever GM offers Harris MAX should get fired.
Plenty of GMs will be happy to offer Harris the max, with the amount of cap space that is disposable. He's a high character guy who has improved every year.
Is he worth it? Nah.
Will he get it? Yeah..
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