one sentence to prove Kobes better than everyone throughout history

[kennethgriffen]

#1 Michael Jordan couldn't shoot beyond 15 feet and was rarely his teams top playmaker

#2 Kareem Abdul Jabbar won his last 2 titles as a role player and didn't even play in the clincher for his 2nd

#3 Bill Russell couldn't score and played on a hall of fame superteam for every title

#4 Magic Johnson never played defense in his life and wasn't polished offensively either

#5 Larry Bird was outperformed by much lesser teammates for 2 of his 3 titles and has less 50/60 point games for his career than kobe has in 1 week

#6 Tim Duncan was eliminated by kobe 4 out of 6 times in the playoffs and failed to win gold with team USA while kobe did multiple times

#7 Shaquille O'neals only success without kobe was a 3rd option role player ring averaging 13ppg behind antoine walker in a rigged finals series

#8 Wilt Chamberlain has twice as many finals losses as finals wins

#9 Lebron james has twice as many finals losses as finals wins and was half the defender while getting bailed out for most of his titles

#10 Hakeem Olajuwon has less accomplishments than kobe has just in his time post Shaq



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[AussieSteve]

You're missing one.

#11 ...

[kennethgriffen]

You're missing one.

#11 ...



#11 Oscar? West? Moses? Durant? Dr J?


= never won as lead dog, 1 for 8, ring chaser, ultimate ring chaser, ABA

[SpaceJam]

#12thBE: Only one MVP in his 20 year career, really didn't have at the very least a season where he was the undisputed best in the league. 2/5 on FMVP trophies with one of the 2 being questionable (Pau). Lack of 40 point games in the finals, unlike other greats ahead of him. As well as his stats wilting as the lights grew brighter (See his dip in production from RS to playoffs to finals to elimination games) Finally, and most importantly, unable to father sons which begs the question of how potent his seed is, in comparison to other top 12 players who have fathered sons

[kennethgriffen]

#12thBE: Only one MVP in his 20 year career, really didn't have at the very least a season where he was the undisputed best in the league. 2/5 on FMVP trophies with one of the 2 being questionable (Pau). Lack of 40 point games in the finals, unlike other greats ahead of him. As well as his stats wilting as the lights grew brighter (See his dip in production from RS to playoffs to finals to elimination games) Finally, and most importantly, unable to father sons which begs the question of how potent his seed is, in comparison to other top 12 players who have fathered sons


1. i logged out to see this.. just because its my thread so i'm inviting opinions no matter how retarded

2.

- the media votes for MVPs. they've been proven to be retarded agenda pushing fan boys. plenty of guys with 0-1 mvp are better than guys with more than them... i.e kobe, shaq, oscar, hakeem, dr J, west, Baylor, Durant, barkley, robinson and many more guys being better than nash, curry, rose, iverson etc...

- this is more of a testament to the era kobe played in. having never played a season in which there wasn't a prime shaq, prime duncan or prime lebron as his direct competition. ofcourse there would always be someone saying kobes at best arguably #1... not everyone can play in an era where their best competition is james harden or little steph ( btw i'm not counting durant as competition because the media blackballed him )

- peak jordan would lose finals mvp to shaq... especially when he says he won't "guard the house if they don't feed the dog" ... basically giving an ultimatum where if you don't gift him the mvp in 2001 and 2002 he'll tank the series. kobe was obviously right up there and probably should have won in 2001 considering he carried them to the finals. as for Pau i would just bring up his 0-16 lead dog resume. he was never the #1 guy. maybe most efficient but everything he did was off a kobe initial double team in a pick and pop

- scoring 40 in the finals isn't as important as winning in the finals as a top tier star or co star and making sure your finals record doesn't fall below .500

- kobes stats were what his teams needed and his coach asked of him... when they weren't it was usually a tough grind it out defensive battle. either way kobe can change to fit the team. the team never had to change to fit his agenda like they do for lebron



simply put. lebron is cancer. he's a locust. wherever he goes he kills everything. kobe can be placed on any team in any era throughout history and contribute to that team in any way they need him. that is the definition of value

[MrFonzworth]

Blew a 3-1 lead to a 6 foot Canadian with twice as many MVPs.

/Thread.

[kennethgriffen]

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sorry. if you wanna talk. post under your spacejam account.

[aj1987]

Blew a 3-1 lead to a 6 foot Canadian with twice as many MVPs.

/Thread.
:yaohappy: :yaohappy:


Shot a combines 29.7% in the 4th Q's of the '09 and '10 Finals. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fraudbe is borderline top 30 on a good day, TBH.

[kennethgriffen]

:yaohappy:


Shot a combines 29.7% in the 4th Q's of the '09 and '10 Finals. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fraudbe is borderline top 30 on a good day, TBH.


its amazing what playing defense can overcome

:lol


btw the 2009 finals was never in question and the 2010 finals was a defensive battle


kobe's won titles with defense. lebrons lost titles not playing defense



that basically sums up their careers in a ...

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[kennethgriffen]

"hey remember those titles kobe won without shaq. he shot bad at the end of some games hahahahahah"

"hey remember that series kobe never should have had a chance in and shockingly went up 3 games to 1 vs a much deeper team while only having kwame/smush... he eventually lost! ahahahhaha"


"hey ... oh yeah and you know how every media member hates kobe. they never gave him a lot of mvps like the guy they love.. hahahahaha"


this is the anti kobe argument

:oldlol:

[SpaceJam]

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sorry. if you wanna talk. post under your spacejam account.

Blew a 3-1 lead to a 6 foot Canadian with twice as many MVPs.

/Thread.

[G0ATbe]

Why has Lebron been runner up for DPOY twice while kobes never come close?:eek:

[Akeem34TheDream]

You're missing one.

#11 ...
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Only 3 of those are even basketball arguments and 2 of those 3 are largely untrue.

[kennethgriffen]

Only 3 of those are even basketball arguments and 2 of those 3 are largely untrue.


ya but you're kblaze so ....


you literally have absolutely no ability to understand context. you think everything is black and white when theres so much grey area for everything

[kennethgriffen]

Why has Lebron been runner up for DPOY twice while kobes never come close?:eek:


because the media votes for dpoty while coaches voted for all defensive teams


and anyone with a brain knows the majority of nba coaches are smarter than 99.9999% of the media

[Kblaze8855]

ya but you're kblaze so ....


you literally have absolutely no ability to understand context. you think everything is black and white when theres so much grey area for everything


On the subject of Kobe....you just arent one to listen to. You dont listen to you about Kobe Dray/Pauk/whoever about Lebron, Warriorfan about Steph and so on. You also dont listen to Skip bayless about Lebron, or Bill Simmons or Smush Parker(given recent events) about Kobe.

You eliminate the extremes on both ends then have a conversation. The "context" you guys put your chosen guy in will never be fair.

And its not like it makes you a shitty fan...just....a fan. One could argue you shouldnt go to me on the subject of Scottie Pippen having been a Bulls fan forever and loving defense. Everyone has someone they are gonna spin the situation to benefit.

Yours is Kobe. Would you even argue that?

[kennethgriffen]

On the subject of Kobe....you just arent one to listen to. You dont listen to you about Kobe Dray/Pauk/whoever about Lebron, Warriorfan about Steph and so on. You also dont listen to Skip bayless about Lebron, or Bill Simmons or Smush Parker(given recent events) about Kobe.

You eliminate the extremes on both ends then have a conversation. The "context" you guys put your chosen guy in will never be fair.

And its not like it makes you a shitty fan...just....a fan. One could argue you shouldnt go to me on the subject of Scottie Pippen having been a Bulls fan forever and loving defense. Everyone has someone they are gonna spin the situation to benefit.

Yours is Kobe. Would you even argue that?


on the subject of anything. you just aren't the one to listen to. you're like a robot. no emotion. no common sense. no context. no reason. no leeway. no objectivity. you can't see both sides of anything



i'm just making an argument for kobe. i obviously don't have him #1 all time. jordan is and kareem/russell arguably have as many accomplishments. thats objectivity and logic. i'm just playing devils advocate


notice i said "to prove" and not "that proves"

[Kblaze8855]

I had an EF Hutton remark typed up but I feel the reference wouldnt be understood by most of ISH. Our average age is probably like 22 right now.

[kennethgriffen]

notice i say "to prove" and not "that proves"

i'm giving a reason as to why kobe can be considered better than certain guys. its not the end all be all


i could make an argument for Dr J being the goat

[Spurs m8]

No one thinks Kobe is the goat except you.

Most missed shots in history.

/thread

[kennethgriffen]

No one thinks Kobe is the goat except you.

Most missed shots in history.

/thread



umm... 10% of current nba players say kobes the goat. same amount as lebron



and tons of former players say it too... durant just came out and said kobe is 1b to mj


shaq put kobe on the same tier as MJ... pat riley... marbury...


pierce, rose and billups agreed kobe is the most skilled ever



its not some message board troll argument. sorry

[Kblaze8855]

Nobody with under 1000 posts on some form of message board or comment section even knows Kobe missed the most shots ever.

Kobes roadblocks? Shaq for people old enough to remember that time....and that people cant agree on what the GOAT is anyway.

Kobe isnt terribly close far as personal accomplishments....but hes fairly close far as straight up basketball skills....but if people did the rankings that way?

Steve Nash is damn high on the list. Then you go into defense.....all around ability. But how many players ever....are better than Leonard is right now on both offense and defense? What...Wilt maybe? Arguably Jordan at his peak but maybe not. There may not be a flat out inarguable superior wing defender than Leonard at his best.

How many point guards who are better scorers and playmakers than Payton are equal defenders? Zero.

How many people played better D than David Robinson and could also score 30ppg? 3? 5?

How many people had better man to man D, help D, rebounding, ball handling, passing, and scoring than KG? Think about it for a moment. Who checks all those boxes at the same rate? A LOT outscore him....some outscore and rebound...some play better D(not by much though). Who outdefends KG and scores more.....but can handle the ball, pass, and rebound? Chris Webber could handle it, pass, outscore him, and rebound well...couldnt defend like him. Who has it all?

You start doing skill by skill breakdowns you could drag 20-30 people into these conversations.

We might all be dead before a better combo of ball handling, passing, and shooting than Steph or Nash comes along. The general public considers those things the basis of skill not defense.

Kobe is the up there with Jordan and Bird in terms of 18 feet and in scoring skillset....but almost nobody from before these days proved they could shoot outside at the rate guys can now. It wasnt worked on. Bird had the skill....but he didnt make an effort to show it. Kobe was still shooting 25% from 3 when he had 3 rings. Hes a 33 percent career shooter from outside. Kobe could shoot....obviously. But he wasnt just a knockdown outside shooter.

We used to talk about his shot selection as the reason but these days? Guys like Lillard out here taking pullup 30 footers with no conscience and still shooting better outside than Kobe did. Kobe had wild shot selection far as his pullup 3s for his time....for today? Kobe took like...entirely reasonable 3s. Gerald Green takes nearly as many wild "WTF was that?" stepback contested 3s as Kobe and nobody even cares. You see the bullshit Eric Gordon throws up? And its fine. Everyones fine with it. Half the league has "Bench his ass!" shot selection now pulling up from 28 feet with 19 seconds on the clock and a solid contest.

Kobe just....wasnt that amazing a 3 point shooter.

And much like Jordan as time goes on thats gonna be used against him.

It isnt fair...but people always consider what current players do to be more advanced...even when its not more skills...just different.

After like 20 years of Steph, Lilliard, Harden, KD and so on and the kids coming up behind them?

You know what future generations are gonna say?

Kobe and Jordan both couldnt shoot.

All the big highlight threes will be seen as just that....highlights.

Just wait till the entire league came up on Steph Curry.

Kobe, Jordan, and Bird? Absolute relics to the next generation.

The standards always change. I dont think Kobe had the kinda skillset or career to be longterm immune to it.

Jordan has the legacy to be immune for a while. I dont know that anyone else does. A 20 years from now top 10 by polling fans might well have Steph, Durant, and Harden in it with Kobe and Lebron both out. Lebron lasting a bit longer since he has more young fans and better numbers....but both headed out.

Kobe is gonna be his generations Bird. Forever elite to them....but fading fast to everyone later. Kobes gonna be a "Man...I aint know he was so nasty!" youtube video release by the NBA when hes 50 guy just like Bird.

But people wont care.

[kennethgriffen]

Nobody with under 1000 posts on some form of message board or comment section even knows Kobe missed the most shots ever.

Kobes roadblocks? Shaq for people old enough to remember that time....and that people cant agree on what the GOAT is anyway.

Kobe isnt terribly close far as personal accomplishments....but hes fairly close far as straight up basketball skills....but if people did the rankings that way?

Steve Nash is damn high on the list. Then you go into defense.....all around ability. But how many players ever....are better than Leonard is right now on both offense and defense?

How many point guards who are better scorers and playmakers than Payton are equal defenders? Zero.

How many people played better D than David Robinson and could also score 30ppg? 3? 5?

How many people had better man to man D, help D, rebounding, ball handling, passing, and scoring than KG? Think about it for a moment. Who checks all those boxes at the same rate? A LOT outscore him....some outscore and rebound...some play better D(not by much though). Who outdefends KG and scores more.....but can handle the ball, pass, and rebound? Chris Webber could handle it, pass, outscore him, and rebound well...couldnt defend like him.

You start doing skill by skill breakdowns you could drag 20-30 people into these conversations.

We might all be dead before a better combo of ball handling, passing, and shooting than Steph or Nash comes along. The general public considers those things the basis of skill not defense.

Kobe is the up there with Jordan and Bird in terms of 18 feet and in scoring skillset....but almost nobody from before these days proved they could shoot outside at the rate guys can now. It wasnt worked on. Bird had the skill....but he didnt make an effort to show it. Kobe was still shooting 25% from 3 when he had 3 rings. Hes a 33 percent career shooter from outside. Kobe could shoot....obviously. But he wasnt just a knockdown outside shooter.

We used to talk about his shot selection as the reason but these days? Guys like Lillard out here taking pullup 30 footers with no conscience and still shooting better outside than Kobe did. Kobe had wild shot selection far as his pullup 3s for his time....for today? Kobe took like...entirely reasonable 3s. Gerald Green takes nearly as many wild "WTF was that?" stepback contested 3s as Kobe and nobody even cares. You see the bullshit Eric Gordon throws up? And its fine. Everyones fine with it. Half the league has "Bench his ass!" shot selection now pulling up from 28 feet with 19 seconds on the clock and a solid contest.

Kobe just....wasnt that amazing a 3 point shooter.

And much like Jordan as time goes on thats gonna be used against him.

It isnt fair...but people always consider what current players do to be more advanced...even when its not more skills...just different.

After like 20 years of Steph, Lilliard, Harden, KD and so on and the kids coming up behind them?

You know what future generations are gonna say?

Kobe and Jordan both couldnt shoot.

All the big highlight threes will be seen as just that....highlights.

Just wait till the entire league came up on Steph Curry.

Kobe, Jordan, and Bird? Absolute relics to the next generation.

The standards always change. I dont think Kobe had the kinda skillset or career to be longterm immune to it.

Jordan has the legacy to be immune for a while. I dont know that anyone else does. A 20 years from now top 10 by polling fans might well have Steph, Durant, and Harden in it with Kobe and Lebron both out. Lebron lasting a bit longer since he has more young fans and better numbers....but both headed out.

Kobe is gonna be his generations Bird. Forever elite to them....but fading fast to everyone later. Kobes gonna be a "Man...I aint know he was so nasty!" youtube video release by the NBA when hes 50 guy just like Bird.

But people wont care.


in terms of offensive skills nash is up there. other total losers might qualify too like tmac and iverson.


but none of those guys had all time great defensive skills

bird was an OK defender. not great


when i think of the most skilled 2 way players ever i have

#1 Kobe.. jordan slightly more skilled than kobe defensively. kobe much more skilled offensively

#2 Jordan

#3 Hakeem

#4 Kareem

#5 Duncan


the bigs obviously can't compare due to a lack of handles/perimeter play while jordan and kobe are post wizards



i don't see how anyone but kobe and jordan deserve goat recognition when it comes to skills


durants a good defender. not great. he's like bird

[kennethgriffen]

Kobe and Jordan both couldnt shoot.


totally missed this part. wow... this discussion is over

:oldlol:






you're a stat guy i see. no common sense as usual. the degree of difficulty obviously has no meaning to you... anyone who took kobes shot attempts would be in the low 20's percentage wise

kobe basically hit 34% threes till his achilles rupture with a guy in his face and no step back. just a straight rise up over someone with a hand in his face

and his mid range percentages are as good as any high volume shooter as well. dunno how anyone can say kobe was a bad shooter lol... its practically all he did after 2002

[kennethgriffen]

bad shooter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvvVd74-OxY

i don't even think jordan has ONE shot like any of these


and this is just 2013

[aj1987]

Why has Lebron been runner up for DPOY twice while kobes never come close?:eek:
Most missed shots in the history of the NBA, while not even being close to the all time leading scorer.


Also, as Fonz said, Brickbe choked a 3-1 lead. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Top30be. :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

Most missed shots in the history of the NBA, while not even being close to the all time leading scorer.


Also, as Fonz said, Brickbe choked a 3-1 lead. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Top30be. :roll:


the only 2 guys ahead of him never shot threes


lebron will have the most missed shots ever before passing kareem or malone too


malones point per shot was 1.40 ... lebrons is 1.38.. and i highly doubt lebron will be as efficient as he continues to age

[PickernRoller]

GOAT TOP 5 for me. No doubt about that. But you can make the case like OP just did for GOAT.

[aj1987]

Meanwhile, Baldbe is at 1.28 points per shots. :roll: :roll:

The worst FG% among all the players who are in the top 10 in scoring. :roll: :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

You talk about me not using context....I say:



After like 20 years of Steph, Lilliard, Harden, KD and so on and the kids coming up behind them?

You know what future generations are gonna say?

Kobe and Jordan both couldnt shoot.

All the big highlight threes will be seen as just that....highlights.

You take it to mean:



Kobe and Jordan both couldnt shoot.


Suggesting its my position....and argue against it ignoring all the words before and after it which put it in context.

Why even bother talking to other people at this point? You literally make arguments what you want them to be. Just argue with yourself.

Nothing about my positions here over all these years suggest I think either Kobe or Jordan couldnt shoot. Its clear....I meant in the eyes of future generations who came up on Steph and those who will follow them. But still you pretend my position is what you choose it is...just to have something to argue with.

[kennethgriffen]

You talk about me not using context....I say:




You take it to mean:





Suggesting its my position....and argue against it ignoring all the words before and after it which put it in context.

Why even bother talking to other people at this point? You literally make arguments what you want them to be. Just argue with yourself.

Nothing about my positions here over all these years suggest I think either Kobe or Jordan couldnt shoot. Its clear....I meant in the eyes of future generations who came up on Steph and those who will follow them. But still you pretend my position is what you choose it is...just to have something to argue with.


future generations will still have youtube though


any fan with a brain will be able to see highlights and also understand stats don't mean much when the most analytically great offensive player ever is this guy

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[Kblaze8855]

Youtube shows you Larry Bird wasnt a spot up shooter but kids still believe it. Never underestimate the willingness of young people to see the style they watch as the best and players they dont remember as relics.

Plenty of young people already think Bird couldnt play today and that Jordan wouldnt be as good a scorer as all these outside shooters.

It being stupid and flying in the face of all video evidence means nothing.

[Uncle Drew]

What a meltdown.

[egokiller]

I had an EF Hutton remark typed up but I feel the reference wouldnt be understood by most of ISH. Our average age is probably like 22 right now.

What was it, that kenny is like EF Hutton because when he talks, you listen?

[TheCorporation]

#12thBE: Only one MVP in his 20 year career, really didn't have at the very least a season where he was the undisputed best in the league. 2/5 on FMVP trophies with one of the 2 being questionable (Pau). Lack of 40 point games in the finals, unlike other greats ahead of him. As well as his stats wilting as the lights grew brighter (See his dip in production from RS to playoffs to finals to elimination games) Finally, and most importantly, unable to father sons which begs the question of how potent his seed is, in comparison to other top 12 players who have fathered sons



Blew a 3-1 lead to a 6 foot Canadian with twice as many MVPs.

/Thread.


:yaohappy: :yaohappy:


Shot a combines 29.7% in the 4th Q's of the '09 and '10 Finals. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fraudbe is borderline top 30 on a good day, TBH.

I'll add this to make the thread even more funny:

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg\

[NBASTATMAN]

THIS GUY KENNETH IS MELTING DOWN.. :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467183

[LeCola]

one sentence to prove Kobes better than everyone throughout history:

"沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有 他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈 哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法伙計哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公 子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒 辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有 他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公 子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法 花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽 的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈 哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄 哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法 花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽 的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈 哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦 法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他 媽的方式沒有方式花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子 哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦 法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的 方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式 沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方 式沒有辦法花花公子哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒有辦法老兄哈哈哈沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的 方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式沒辦法老兄哈哈哈，沒有他媽的方式你真的翻譯這個狗屎"