View Full Version : Reforming Islam (Imam Tawhidi Interview)
tomtucker
05-14-2019, 04:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjEQA_CwWk
Facebook banned an imam for Islamaphobia!!! Hilarious!!!:D
coin24
05-14-2019, 07:48 AM
Where's Jefferson :lol
Bosnian Sajo
05-14-2019, 08:11 AM
....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.
coin24
05-14-2019, 09:01 AM
It's a shame all the low iq radicals can't grasp what he's saying. The part about the left and the government infiltration was spot on..
Patrick Chewing
05-14-2019, 09:13 AM
Been preaching about him and guys like Maajid Nawaz for a long time now.
Two people on the precipice of a reformation movement that can fundamentally change a religion and change the way people view a religion.
But alas, Rome wasn't built in a day.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 10:16 AM
Been preaching about him and guys like Maajid Nawaz for a long time now.
Two people on the precipice of a reformation movement that can fundamentally change a religion and change the way people view a religion.
But alas, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course you would support Tawhidi.
Here's a post from reddit about this character
He's a*fake non-Imam*right wing bumlicker who wants to make money by acting like an Uncle-tom.
First, there are his*contradictions*that really*take you by storm
He*uses sock puppet accounts, pretending to be reformed Muslims that share his views.
His fake twitter accounts made*Sexual Assault Allegations Against Ali Dawah
He once*posted a video of a mob from Bangladesh, claiming it was supporters of the PTI party in Pakistan
Here's what was*really going on
The guys is a laughing stock on*/r/shia. he just wears a turban and calls himself an "Imam", and goes around collecting money from Islamophobes to promote them and their agenda.
He also insulted Chief Palestinian negotiator Saed Erakat and praised Australia's move to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital. So he's a Zionist as well.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 10:23 AM
....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.
Dude.
Guys like Tawhidi are the worst enemies of Islam.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 10:33 AM
It's a shame all the low iq radicals can't grasp what he's saying. The part about the left and the government infiltration was spot on..
Doesn't matter what he is saying.
He has been exposed as a heretic with corrupt beliefs that panders and caters to Non Muslims like you at the expense of the real teachings of the Deen.
Of course you and the Pat would love him. Thing is you and I don't like each other and its transparent coin. We are enemies.
On the other hands he wears a turban and sports a beard and it's not so transparent.
Patrick Chewing
05-14-2019, 11:25 AM
Dude.
Guys like Tawhidi are the worst enemies of Islam.
You are the worst enemy of Islam and to every day people. You're a radical.
You are a dying breed though. I will help Imam Tawhidi remove you guys from existence.
Bosnian Sajo
05-14-2019, 11:43 AM
Dude.
Guys like Tawhidi are the worst enemies of Islam.
Seeing as this is the first video I've ever seen on him....what exactly did he say that you do not agree with?
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 11:44 AM
You are the worst enemy of Islam and to every day people. You're a radical.
You are a dying breed though. I will help Imam Tawhidi remove you guys from existence.
Your judgment means nothing.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 11:57 AM
Seeing as this is the first video I've ever seen on him....what exactly did he say that you do not agree with?
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In 1882, when the British occupied Egypt, they began to push Muslim scholarship into new theological and jurisprudential understandings. This was to make the Muslim Ummah more pliable to its needs in the hope that they could weaken the Ottoman Empire.
This was not limited to the British. Most of Europe saw fit to manipulate Muslim societies in order to produce an Islam compatible with newly established sentiments of the Enlightenment era.
The foremost task was to create a rival Caliphate, thereby splitting the Ummah in two. Caliph Abdul Hamid had stated as far back as 1870,*
Patrick Chewing
05-14-2019, 11:59 AM
Your judgment means nothing.
Clearly it does cause you're in here whining like a baby.
What kind of job do you have, Jefferson? I can't imagine you have any respectable job with the type of close-mindedness that you have. You strike me as very low-IQ.
Overdrive
05-14-2019, 12:03 PM
He has been exposed as a heretic with corrupt beliefs that panders and caters to Non Muslims like you at the expense of the real teachings of the Deen.
Everyone, who doesn't literally live by a book written 1400 years ago, is a heretic in islam.
The brits were right trying to push enlightment on those people. You still keep believes from a time, which was basically stone age compared to the last 50 years.
Bosnian Sajo
05-14-2019, 12:06 PM
- Muslimvibe
Cliffs
- one plan that the shayateen have used is to install puppet leaders in colonized lands to control the muslims
Did you just completely ignore my question?
Based on the video the OP posted, what exactly did you disagree with? Spell it out.
Again, this is my first time ever hearing about this guy, so to say the "entire world hates him" is pretty drastic considering I've never heard a Muslim mention him by name.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 12:23 PM
Clearly it does cause you're in here whining like a baby.
What kind of job do you have, Jefferson? I can't imagine you have any respectable job with the type of close-mindedness that you have. You strike me as very low-IQ.
Lol.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-14-2019, 10:43 PM
Bosnian_Sajo,
If you want to learn Islam--- I suggest the following people:
Shaykh Bin Baz
Shaykh Uthaymeen
Bilal Philips
Musa Jibril
Bilal Assad
NOTE: They are hated and reviled by Non-Muslims and referred to as "terrorists" and "extremists" and "Islamists"
That's part of their test to be willing to go against society to speak the TRUTH..
If you want to go to Hell and die a hypocrite--I suggest the following people:
Tawhidi
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Reza Aslan
Maajid Nawaaz
Nabeel Qureshi
Irshad Manji
NOTE: They are beloved and celebritized by Non-Muslims having much airtime in the media.
That's part of their evil fate as the sell-out Uncle Tom frenemy devilish they are, to try to destroy Islam and drag innocent muslims along with them to Hell spouting out all kinds of lies.
It's interesting to note, that in the black community, there are REAL N****Z and we have UNCLE TOMS. Be a REAL N*****. As someone who loves rap, you have been taught about the virtues of integrity, authenticity, loyalty, fidelity, truthfulness etc.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect you by ignoring your Q, Bosnian_Sajo, given this individual's history and claims, I don't think he is worth your attention. I didn't watch the video, because I've been taught not to listen to hypocrites. Here are the tell-tale signs of the type I'm talking about.
The hypocrites are always confused, always planning deceit and plots. Although outwardly they appear to be with the believers, inwardly they are with the kaafireen.
Wearing Islamic clothing like Imam Tawheedi while going on talk shows and bashing Muslims counts in this. This guy talks smack about Linda Sarsour and Ilhan Omar and has "dedicated his life to combating Islamic extremism."---
This guy is willing to try to connect any regular Muslim with terror to appease his Non-Muslim masters.
So sometimes they are inclined towards the believers and sometimes they are inclined towards the kaafireen. “(They are) swaying between this and that, belonging neither to these nor to those; and he whom Allaah sends astray, you will not find for him a way (to the truth — Islam)” [al-Nisaa’ 4:143 – interpretation of the meaning]
The dealings of the hypocrites revolve around their own interests. When they meet the believers, they make a show of belief and loyalty, in order to deceive the believers and as an action of dissimulation, hoping for whatever good and war-booty they have. But when they meet their masters and chiefs, they say, we are with you in your shirk and kufr. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when they meet those who believe, they say: “We believe,” but when they are alone with their Shayaateen (devils — polytheists, hypocrites), they say: “Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking. Allaah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doing to wander blindly” [al-Baqarah 2:14-15]
The hypocrites have many characteristics which are :
1- The worst and most serious of which is disbelief in Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when it is said to them (hypocrites): ‘Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad, Al-Ansaar and Al-Muhaajiroon) have believed,’ they say: ‘Shall we believe as the fools have believed?’ Verily, they are the fools, but they know not” [al-Baqarah 2:13]
2- Enmity and envy (hasad) towards the believers, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“If good befalls you (O Muhammad), it grieves them, but if a calamity overtakes you, they say: ‘We took our precaution beforehand’ and they turn away rejoicing”[al-Tawbah 9:50]
3- Mockery of Allaah, His Messenger and His religion. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?' Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed” [al-Tawbah 9:65-66]
Tawhidi was crying on Twitter about CAIR not being able to take a joke---and that joke was extremely inappropriate.
4- They spread corruption on earth, with disbelief, hypocrisy and sins. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when it is said to them: ‘Make not mischief on the earth,’ they say: ‘We are only peacemakers.’ Verily, they are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not” [al-Baqarah 2:11-12]
5- Slander and lies. Allaah tells us about them (interpretation of the meaning):
“They swear by Allaah that they are truly, of you while they are not of you, but they are a people (hypocrites) who are afraid (that you may kill them)” [al-Tawbah 9:56]
6- They enjoin what is evil and forbid what is good, and they are stingy with their wealth. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“The hypocrites, men and women, are one from another; they enjoin (on the people) Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief and polytheism of all kinds and all that Islam has forbidden), and forbid (people) from Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do), and they close their hands [from giving (spending in Allaah’s Cause) alms]. They have forgotten Allaah, so He has forgotten them. Verily, the hypocrites are the Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”[al-Tawbah 9:67]
7- Greed and avarice:
“And of them are some who accuse you (O Muhammad) in the matter of (the distribution of) the alms. If they are given part thereof, they are pleased, but if they are not given thereof, behold! They are enraged![al-Tawbah 9: 58 – interpretation of the meaning]
8- The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“There are four (characteristics), whoever has all of them is a complete hypocrite, and whoever has some of them has some element of hypocrisy, unless he gives it up: when he speaks, he lies; when he makes a treaty, he betrays it; when he makes a promise, he breaks it; when he quarrels, he resorts to insults.”(Narrated by Muslim, 53)
9- Their concern with appearances and fancy speech whilst they are inwardly corrupt. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when you look at them, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are as blocks of wood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allaah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path?” [al-Munaafiqoon 63:4]
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Smoke117
05-14-2019, 10:55 PM
....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.
You're a muslim? As if you weren't already unlikable enough as it is with all your little temper tantrums. Makes sense, though. You muslims are always very angry and violent.
Hawker
05-14-2019, 11:48 PM
....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.
Well...this is obviously not the case.
Patrick Chewing
05-14-2019, 11:53 PM
Bosnian_Sajo,
If you want to learn Islam---
How condescending.
Mind you, Bosnian_Sajo IS a Muslim for all intents and purposes, but Jihad Jefferson over here disagrees. He's not radical enough apparently.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-15-2019, 12:47 AM
How condescending.
Mind you, Bosnian_Sajo IS a Muslim for all intents and purposes, but Jihad Jefferson over here disagrees. He's not radical enough apparently.
Oh I see you getting giddy and excited at causing dissension between brothers. How devilish of you naughty Patty. Divide and conquer like the western imperialist powers did to Arabia and Turkey eh?
Do you know the consequences of provoking conflict between people in the Hereafter Pat?
No condescension towards B.sajo here. Just brother to brother advice. Deen takes long time to learn. Aqeedah. Arabic. Tafsir. Hadith. And much more. Can take decades and for people like us with jobs and families and hobbies even longer.
Muhammad (PBUH) warned us about wicked and astray "scholars"
Bosnian knows a lot lot more than me in many other things in life like engineering and people. My ears are open if he would like to share any tips. Last time he gave me advice on not wasting time with you guys and I don't respond as much.
coin24
05-15-2019, 03:02 AM
As expected, Jefferson triggered:lol
Wouldn't expect any less from a low iq, radical inbred.
Better keep an eye out for those inside out burqas:roll: :roll:
qrich
05-15-2019, 03:11 AM
Jefferson mad that there's non-radical Muslims out there that aren't trying to indoctrinate folks. :roll:
iamgine
05-15-2019, 03:28 AM
Islam fundamentalism is a disease. The moderate Muslims are starting to speak out and act against this all over the world. Took them long enough but I'm glad they do because it really is their role to be the main frontier to eradicate this disease.
dunksby
05-15-2019, 03:33 AM
J money your trolling is gonna get you an FBI visit. If you are seriously trying to radicalise people here I actually hope you get picked up.
Objectivity
05-15-2019, 06:22 AM
J$ got fools on a leash :rockon:
coin24
05-15-2019, 08:05 AM
J$ got fools on a leash :rockon:
Alt confirmed.
Bosnian Sajo
05-15-2019, 08:33 AM
Bosnian_Sajo,
If you want to learn Islam--- I suggest the following people:
Shaykh Bin Baz
Shaykh Uthaymeen
Bilal Philips
Musa Jibril
Bilal Assad
NOTE: They are hated and reviled by Non-Muslims and referred to as "terrorists" and "extremists" and "Islamists"
That's part of their test to be willing to go against society to speak the TRUTH..
If you want to go to Hell and die a hypocrite--I suggest the following people:
Tawhidi
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Reza Aslan
Maajid Nawaaz
Nabeel Qureshi
Irshad Manji
NOTE: They are beloved and celebritized by Non-Muslims having much airtime in the media.
That's part of their evil fate as the sell-out Uncle Tom frenemy devilish they are, to try to destroy Islam and drag innocent muslims along with them to Hell spouting out all kinds of lies.
Look man...I don't learn Islam on the internet. It's just not something I do or recommend to anyone, you don't learn it on your own. There is a reason it is highly recommended to find a Shaykh who you can take advice from in your life, in person, who knows their people.
Tawhidi was crying on Twitter about CAIR not being able to take a joke---and that joke was extremely inappropriate.
I saw his joke on twitter, it was definitely inappropriate considering this is a man who claims to be an imam. In no way shape or form should an imam ever joke about that kind of stuff, so yeah it definitely takes away from his credibility...but having said that, the video in the OP of this thread he makes a LOT of valid points. I'm not saying EVERYTHING about this guy is agreeable (I don't know him, I've only seen him from this one video and his twitter account), what I am saying is the points he brings up in the OP's video specifically are things that I can agree with absolutely.
JEFFERSON MONEY
05-15-2019, 11:02 AM
Fine.
I'll leave.
Take care everybody
coin24
05-15-2019, 11:04 AM
Fine.
I'll leave.
Take care everybody
Kaboom
egokiller
05-15-2019, 11:24 AM
Your judgment means nothing.
It’s not his judgement you fear, it’s the results from his actions. Islam will conform and they will like it.
Vino24
05-15-2019, 01:21 PM
2019 and y'all still living in the stone age :biggums:
Patrick Chewing
05-15-2019, 01:28 PM
Fine.
I'll leave.
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dunksby
05-15-2019, 02:51 PM
J money your trolling is gonna get you an FBI visit. If you are seriously trying to radicalise people here I actually hope you get picked up.
Fine.
I'll leave.
Take care everybody
FBI with a well-deserved win :cheers:
imdaman99
05-15-2019, 10:08 PM
:biggums: what do y'all get out of trolling my boy J$? Let a man live.
Long Duck Dong
05-16-2019, 06:19 AM
Fine.
I'll leave.
Take care everybody
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Out like a boss :applause:
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