So Memphis had told everyone they will take Ja. Who trades for Conley now?

[Kblaze8855]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26757427/grizz-make-known-pick-morant


Late prime and 2010 holder of the "Most underrated" point guard throne previously occupied by the likes of Derek Harper, Terry Porter, Terrell Brandon, Rod Strickland, Sam Cassell and others everyone respected but nobody reeeeeeeeeeally gave a shit about aside from like 1-2 seasons of a long career.

His disgusting contract is looking less disgusting by the day. You have 2 years left at 32 and 34 million which compared to some....isnt that out of line. For example...the next 2 years:

Paul Makes 38.5 and 41.3(with a 3rd year of 44.2).

Wall Makes 38 and 41(then 44 and 47)

Lowry makes 33 then Free agency


Kyrie and Kemba about to get Scrooge Mcduck paid and install the money pool.


Conley at 66 for 2 isnt as unimaginable as it used to be. Hes coming off his highest scoring season not that it really matters with the rule changes spiking production....just saying.

Ja is here for his job. Hes probably fine with it. He has to go to a contender for there to be any justice in the world.....but pretty much every team can put together a package for him. 33 million isnt hard to match in todays NBA.


So...what you giving up for Aluminium Mike Conley(I feel the typical "Iron" Mike has to be earned...but Aluminium is perfectly fine...as is Mike Conley)?

Who says no if they offer him and change for Wiggins to give Ja an overpaid but athletic sidekick to pair with Jackson running the floor? Memphis doesnt get better....but the long money is essentially free if you understand the salary floor. Minnesota probably gets a little better and a lot more professional.

Give me some other stupid but possible deals that will all be more reasonable than reality which might be something like a trade ot the suns for TJ Warren and whatever change they need after spending money overpaying free agents this summer.

It always ends up like that. Some dumb situation that benefits nobody when the vet needs to go to a contender.

[tontoz]

Weren't the jazz trying at the deadline?

[highwhey]

sounds like Jazz want to make a run for him, and I think James Jones said he wanted a veteran PG this summer, but then you have this tweet: https://twitter.com/nbadraftwass/status/1129060337544773632?s=21


if true, then idk if James Jones is still planning on trading/signing a veteran PG.

[NBAGOAT]

detroit. Reggie and a pick and maybe someone not important. They cant tank with the blake/andre contracts.

[Xiao Yao You]

sounds like Jazz want to make a run for him, and I think James Jones said he wanted a veteran PG this summer, but then you have this tweet: https://twitter.com/nbadraftwass/status/1129060337544773632?s=21


if true, then idk if James Jones is still planning on trading/signing a veteran PG.

Best fit out there for the Jazz. Sadly it will cost them more now. They blew it. They'd probably still be playing right now while getting rid of the 3 guys they most need to get rid of

[Levity]

MIA would be an interesting destination for conley, though they dont have much to offer. Maybe Anderson's expiring, along with dragic + a pick? Dont see MIA giving up richardson or Bam. and dont see anyone wanting whiteside

[Milbuck]

Jazz is the obvious fit.

Indy is another team he

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=Milbuck]Jazz is the obvious fit.

Indy is another team he

[sammichoffate]

I'd take Collison over Rubio anyday.

Ricky now thinks he's going to play a big part on a championship team. Thinks the Celtics would want him! :roll:Phoenix needs Rubio badly.

[Xiao Yao You]

Phoenix needs Rubio badly.

Phoenix makes some sense but not as much without Igor who was his personal coach for the Jazz. Hard for me to believe anyone is stupid enough to pay the guy to be a starter other than the Jazz and his business partner is talking trash about the Jazz. Burning bridges is real smart business! Don't let the door hit you on the way out Ricky! :roll:

[DocSlam]

Charlotte might lose Kemba. But I don't know what assets they have to trade for Conley.

[MJistheGOAT]

Philly

Ben Simmons out.

[eliteballer]

Jazz To Resume Pursuit Of Mike Conley Jr. Trade With Grizzlies

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/5/15/18624689/draft-lottery-scenes-zion-williamson-pelicans-grizzlies-knicks-lakers

[greymatter]

His contract was 10th highest in the league this past season. All the guys in front of him except for Hayward were perennial all stars.

33M is what you'd expect to pay an someone who is arguably somewhere in the top 12-18th range. Clearly an all star, but definitely not a superstar.

He's good, but definitely overpaid relative to his impact. A 1st round playoff team wouldn't improve enough to advance to the second round with his addition and they'd bloat their team's payroll. Teams good already good enough to make the 2nd round would get worse with his addition because they'd either be too top heavy and have to fill out their roster with minimum salaries or have to swap out an all star caliber player for him.

In short MC is a garbage contract because he's not an all star caliber player and he's almost getting paid a superstar salary. He won't go to a contender because there aren't any that have the cap room for him. He won't make any team a contender because he's simply not that good.

[NBAGOAT]

His contract was 10th highest in the league this past season. All the guys in front of him except for Hayward were perennial all stars.

33M is what you'd expect to pay an someone who is arguably somewhere in the top 12-18th range. Clearly an all star, but definitely not a superstar.

He's good, but definitely overpaid relative to his impact. A 1st round playoff team wouldn't improve enough to advance to the second round with his addition and they'd bloat their team's payroll. Teams good already good enough to make the 2nd round would get worse with his addition because they'd either be too top heavy and have to fill out their roster with minimum salaries or have to swap out an all star caliber player for him.

In short MC is a garbage contract because he's not an all star caliber player and he's almost getting paid a superstar salary. He won't go to a contender because there aren't any that have the cap room for him. He won't make any team a contender because he's simply not that good.

idk i really think detroit could become a 2nd round team with him. It's a pretty good fit. They would need some luck with boston falling off and losing some guys however

[Kblaze8855]

His contract was 10th highest in the league this past season. All the guys in front of him except for Hayward were perennial all stars.

33M is what you'd expect to pay an someone who is arguably somewhere in the top 12-18th range. Clearly an all star, but definitely not a superstar.

He's good, but definitely overpaid relative to his impact. A 1st round playoff team wouldn't improve enough to advance to the second round with his addition and they'd bloat their team's payroll. Teams good already good enough to make the 2nd round would get worse with his addition because they'd either be too top heavy and have to fill out their roster with minimum salaries or have to swap out an all star caliber player for him.

In short MC is a garbage contract because he's not an all star caliber player and he's almost getting paid a superstar salary. He won't go to a contender because there aren't any that have the cap room for him. He won't make any team a contender because he's simply not that good.


As I said...his contract was bad...its just getting better relative to the others. People have not yet wrapped their heads around how much money teams can spend now.

The salary floor next year is only 1 million less than the salary CAP from 2018.

The 76ers can give Jimmy Butler 30 million a year....Harris 25 million...and still be 7 million under the cap even with Embiid making 28 million next year.

They could decide to get Conley for a role player and a pick if they dont bring both Jimmy and Harris back. Hed fit under the cap so they wouldnt have to match salary.

Tony Snell and George hill combine to make 30+ million. Close to Conley. It would take some extra wrangling because of luxury tax rules but it could be done.


Lowry makes almost exactly the same as Conley. If he shits the bed again who knows if they move on.

If Denver picks up Millsaps team option they can trade him for Conley nearly straight up. Memphis pays Paul for one year or they buy him out to go to a contender. They save out on the second year of Conleys deal and Denver gets a great vet point to maybe let Jamal play off ball more.

Celtics are 9 million under the cap if Kyrie leaves(21 million depending on what they do with Baynes, Rozier, and Semi). They could if motivated figure it out. Sign and trade some people. Smart is 12 million to play with...not that id do that.

And this is just two team deals...teams tend to find a way if they want the space made. You see 5-6 team deals at times to make things work. It took 5 teams and 13 players moving to get Antione Walker to the Heat....but it got done.

If a team wants Conley they will figure it out. Anyone can go anywhere if the team wants them bad enough. Too many big contracts to shift around with a crazy high cap to manipulate.

[dunksby]

He has a better chance of success if he goes East but imagine the unpredictability if the Clips manage to land Conley and Kawhi. Memphis could be interested in Gallo and Lou maybe? They also have a 10m trade exception from Harris.

[iamgine]

Hayward + picks for Conley

[nayte]

A tough one. Who needs a good point guard that can give up players who aren't. I don't think the grizzlies want a point guard back. So maybe clips. Indiana.wolves utah raptors maybe if Kawhi stays . Most championship ready teams don't need a point.

[Xiao Yao You]

As I said...his contract was bad...its just getting better relative to the others. People have not yet wrapped their heads around how much money teams can spend now.

The salary floor next year is only 1 million less than the salary CAP from 2018.

The 76ers can give Jimmy Butler 30 million a year....Harris 25 million...and still be 7 million under the cap even with Embiid making 28 million next year.

They could decide to get Conley for a role player and a pick if they dont bring both Jimmy and Harris back. Hed fit under the cap so they wouldnt have to match salary.

Tony Snell and George hill combine to make 30+ million. Close to Conley. It would take some extra wrangling because of luxury tax rules but it could be done.


Lowry makes almost exactly the same as Conley. If he shits the bed again who knows if they move on.

If Denver picks up Millsaps team option they can trade him for Conley nearly straight up. Memphis pays Paul for one year or they buy him out to go to a contender. They save out on the second year of Conleys deal and Denver gets a great vet point to maybe let Jamal play off ball more.

Celtics are 9 million under the cap if Kyrie leaves(21 million depending on what they do with Baynes, Rozier, and Semi). They could if motivated figure it out. Sign and trade some people. Smart is 12 million to play with...not that id do that.

And this is just two team deals...teams tend to find a way if they want the space made. You see 5-6 team deals at times to make things work. It took 5 teams and 13 players moving to get Antione Walker to the Heat....but it got done.

If a team wants Conley they will figure it out. Anyone can go anywhere if the team wants them bad enough. Too many big contracts to shift around with a crazy high cap to manipulate.

Which is why the Jazz blew it. The price for him will go up from what it was at the trade deadline because more teams can and will go after him now. Only so many guys to max out and plenty of money to spend

[ralph_i_el]

Conley has a great reputation as a high-character guy. You might want to keep him around for a while if he and Ja have chemistry.

Mike made his career by adding a nasty floater and strong pull-up 3 to his arsenal after he entered the league. Those should be goals for Ja too.

[Wally450]

Hayward + picks for Conley

I was going to say no one wants Hayward's contract, then I remembered how much Conley is making. :lol