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Vino24
05-17-2019, 12:51 PM
Thoughts :confusedshrug:

DocSlam
05-17-2019, 01:01 PM
Because Draymond racked up enough technical fouls to get himself suspended (which might happen again this season). And Kyrie went on a run where he was very difficult to stop. And people are still shook at the whole thing (let it go).

Uncle Drew
05-17-2019, 01:19 PM
Because it's the greatest championship in the history of sports. That's why.

TheCorporation
05-17-2019, 01:20 PM
Because it's the greatest championship in the history of sports. That's why.

Bang

https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg

paksat
05-17-2019, 01:43 PM
it's not

you just got 30 alts on this forum that keep bringing it up because it's the only hail mary ( that fails anyway ) left in the $tats case

SouBeachTalents
05-17-2019, 01:46 PM
it's not

you just got 30 alts on this forum that keep bringing it up because it's the only hail mary ( that fails anyway ) left in the $tats case
Yet the 2016 Finals threads were made by the obsessive haters like stalker & kenneth. Wrong as usual :lol

The Iron Fist
05-17-2019, 02:00 PM
it's not

you just got 30 alts on this forum that keep bringing it up because it's the only hail mary ( that fails anyway ) left in the $tats case:cheers:

ImKobe
05-17-2019, 02:06 PM
Because the 2016 Finals were one of the most rigged series in NBA history.

superduper
05-17-2019, 02:07 PM
Rigged

fiddy
05-17-2019, 02:13 PM
http://sport24h.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/adamsilver.jpg

paksat
05-17-2019, 02:30 PM
http://sport24h.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/adamsilver.jpg

halp me daddy, suspend dray so I got a chance


also thanks for making sure I haven't been in foul trouble... ... ever.

stalkerforlife
05-17-2019, 02:32 PM
Because it was rigged.

And that hurts you.

bigkingsfan
05-17-2019, 02:45 PM
Because it was rigged.

And that hurts you.
You were crying for a month and left the boards.

TheCorporation
05-17-2019, 02:46 PM
You were crying for a month and left the boards.

:lol

k0kakw0rld
05-17-2019, 02:51 PM
Because it was rigged.

And that hurts you.
Who's more hurt? Nikka you talking about it now like it did not happen 3 years ago. Move on already bro :oldlol:

AirBonner
10-15-2019, 03:32 PM
Because LeBron shitted on the GOAT team and dragged his huge balls across their forehead. Led everyone in everything. Down 3-1. Beat the unanimous mvp :wtf:

LAmbruh
10-15-2019, 03:42 PM
You were crying for a month and left the boards.
:roll:

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 03:46 PM
Because LeBron shitted on the GOAT team and dragged his huge balls across their forehead. Led everyone in everything. Down 3-1. Beat the unanimous mvp :wtf:
Unreal GOAT shit. :biggums:

3ball
10-15-2019, 04:01 PM
Why is the 2016 chip so heavily talked about?



Who knows - Lebron's 2nd option destroyed the Warriors' 1st option in 2016, so Lebron only overcame an actual talent deficit in 2007, which was less than and MJ overcame:



2007 Cavs:. #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 tDET:. #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls:. #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs:. n#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed





Why is the 2016 chip so heavily talked about?


MJ played in a 2-star vs 2-star format, so those teams can't be compared to the 3-star vs. 3 star format that Lebron played in..

Lebron's big 3's mean that he only faced talent deficits in 07', 15', 17' and 18' Finals (losing mostly via sweep or record amount).. the only time he overcame a talent deficit was the 07' ECF, and MJ overcame bigger ones then that (see response below)

Furthermore, facing great teams doesn't prevent you from having great teams yourself that can compete EVENLY/adequately... But Lebron failed to compete adequately because he's 2-5 against the best teams of the era (Spurs/Warriors), including 2 sweeps and 2 record defeats.

scuzzy
10-15-2019, 04:12 PM
greatest chip of all time

Rico2016
10-15-2019, 04:14 PM
Bang

https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg


+1

Wow

3ball
10-15-2019, 04:17 PM
greatest chip of all time
93' Jordan averaged 11 more points than 16' Lebron in a slower-paced series

and jordan had a REAL carry-job (scored 20 more than his 2nd option, compared to only 2 more for Lebron)... :eek:

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 04:17 PM
Bang

https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg
:banana:

Rico2016
10-15-2019, 04:19 PM
93' Jordan averaged 11 more points than 16' Lebron in a slower-paced series

and jordan had a REAL carry-job (scored 20 more than his 2nd option, compared to only 2 more for Lebron)... :eek:

Against? Milkmen don't count chico

Ainosterhaspie
10-15-2019, 04:22 PM
Who knows - Lebron's 2nd option destroyed the Warriors' 1st option in 2016, so Lebron only overcame an actual talent deficit in 2007, which was less than and MJ overcame:
Curry's support scored 77 ppg in that series. LeBron's scored 71. (Or if I use your rounding conventions the numbers are 78 and 70 respectively). This isn't NBA jam with just two players on the floor. When you look at team talent, you need to look at the whole team, not just the big names.

3ball
10-15-2019, 04:45 PM
Curry's support scored 77 ppg in that series. LeBron's scored 71. (Or if I use your rounding conventions the numbers are 78 and 70 respectively). This isn't NBA jam with just two players on the floor. When you look at team talent, you need to look at the whole team, not just the big names.
Only the big names matter.. The lesser players are interchangeable

Btw, in addition to Lebron achieving stats at the expense of teammates, Curry simply underperformed - his teammates tried in vain to offset his underperformance, but that doesn't mean Curry had more help.. he just underperformed, due to injury and Kyrie

Kyrie outplayed him badly, which proves that Lebron had more help

Ultimately, 93' Jordan averaged 11 more points than 16' Lebron in a slower-paced series

and jordan had a REAL carry-job (scored 20 more than his 2nd option, compared to only 2 more for Lebron
.

3ball
10-15-2019, 04:52 PM
Against? Milkmen don't count chico


https://media.giphy.com/media/30KRmRhU0f8Q0/giphy.gif


The 1991 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qpikcz&s=8#.V_L49-ArLIW) and 1992 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck) Philadelphia 76'er media guides show that Majerle got 70 dunks in 1991, and 72 dunks in 1992 (top 10% of the league) - this is far more than Klay's career high of 21 dunks in 2015.

Majerle's higher dunk total occurred when league-wide dunk frequency was lower, as shown here (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12555171&postcount=86) (1 dunk every 23.8 shots in 1992, compared to 1 every 22.6 shots in 2014).

Why is this important?... Because people were wondering whether MJ could average 50 on Klay - he obviously could, since he averaged 41 on Majerle, who was a superior athlete and all-nba defender...

Furthermore, Richard Dumas (https://media.giphy.com/media/26h0pswrpjgYgMvBe/giphy.gif) is more athletic than any forward the Warriors have

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 04:55 PM
:hammertime: :djparty

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 04:57 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/30KRmRhU0f8Q0/giphy.gif


The 1991 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qpikcz&s=8#.V_L49-ArLIW) and 1992 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck) Philadelphia 76'er media guides show that Majerle got 70 dunks in 1991, and 72 dunks in 1992 (top 10% of the league) - this is far more than Klay's career high of 21 dunks in 2015.

Majerle's higher dunk total occurred when league-wide dunk frequency was lower, as shown here (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12555171&postcount=86) (1 dunk every 23.8 shots in 1992, compared to 1 every 22.6 shots in 2014).

Why is this important?... Because people were wondering whether MJ could average 50 on Klay - he obviously could, since he averaged 41 on Majerle, who was a superior athlete and all-nba defender...

Furthermore, Richard Dumas (https://media.giphy.com/media/26h0pswrpjgYgMvBe/giphy.gif) is more athletic than any forward the Warriors have
3ball, Klay not challenging MJ. :oldlol: Good job though.

3ball
10-15-2019, 04:58 PM
:hammertime: :djparty
Kyrie. - 27 ppg on 48%
Curry - 22 ppg on 42%


Lebron had more help so he won... :confusedshrug:

Kyrie held Curry down, and Curry's teammates couldn't make it up

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 05:03 PM
Kyrie. - 27 ppg on 48%
Curry - 22 ppg on 42%


Lebron had more help so he won... :confusedshrug:

Kyrie held Curry down, and Curry's teammates couldn't make it up
Yeah. WE WON BOIS :banana:

Ainosterhaspie
10-15-2019, 05:03 PM
Kyrie. - 27 ppg on 48%
Curry - 22 ppg on 42%


Lebron had more help so he won... :confusedshrug:

Kyrie held Curry down, and Curry's teammates couldn't make it up

Again proving you don't know what you're taking about and don't watch the games you presume to analyze. JR Smith was the Cavs primary Curry defender not Irving. And the Warriors had Thompson guarding Irving not Curry.

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 05:04 PM
Again proving you don't know what you're taking about and don't watch the games you presume to analyze. JR Smith was the Cavs primary Curry defender not Irving. And the Warriors had Thompson guarding Irving not Curry.

This.

3ball
10-15-2019, 05:08 PM
3ball, Klay not challenging MJ. :oldlol: Good job though.
So Kerr can't guard MJ with the starting 2-guard?

That means Klay must either guard the bigger Pippen, or ride the bench

So right away, we see that MJ's presence causes mismatches that Lebron doesn't

Plus, we know the warriors wouldn't be defending a simple 1-ball-dominator/shooters setup against MJ... MJ's skillset required opponents to defend tremendous off-ball movement and ball movement, so his teams were much better and harder to beat... He also required double-teams, which freed up teammates and opened the door for more defensive mistakes.

Obviously, it's a lot harder to double-team and defend movement like pindowns etc, then a 1 ball-dominator setup with no doubles... The only reason lebron isn't a career loser (0 rings) like his fellow ball-dominators cp3/nash is because he team-hopped for extra talent to offset his suboptimal style

Ainosterhaspie
10-15-2019, 05:13 PM
Only the big names matter.. The lesser players are interchangeable
Only the big names matter to people who don't understand the game. You're clearly in that category.

Turbo Slayer
10-15-2019, 05:16 PM
Only the big names matter to people who don't understand the game. You're clearly in that category.
Oh no. Ainosterhaspie is 3ball's opposite persona, literally. :roll:

Aino stans Lebron and 3ball stans Jordan. :roll:

Alright thats enough posting here.

See y'all and have a safe day guys.

Logging off. :)

3ball
10-15-2019, 05:23 PM
Only the big names matter to people who don't understand the game. You're clearly in that category.
MJ just needed an 18 ppg sidekick (Pippen), and virtually every other player was different from the 1st to 2nd three-peat

That's how unstacked Jordan's teams were and how interchangeable the role players are.....

role players + MJ + Jimmy Butler = most dominant dynasty of modern era

And btw - it's harder to double-team and defend off-ball movement like pindowns etc (MJ), then a 1 ball-dominator setup with no doubles and weak ball movement (lebron)... The only reason lebron isn't a career loser (0 rings) like his fellow ball-dominators cp3/nash is because he team-hopped for extra talent to offset his suboptimal style
.

Rico2016
10-17-2019, 03:09 PM
MJ just needed an 18 ppg sidekick (Pippen), and virtually every other player was different from the 1st to 2nd three-peat

That's how unstacked Jordan's teams were and how interchangeable the role players are.....

role players + MJ + Jimmy Butler = most dominant dynasty of modern era

And btw - it's harder to double-team and defend off-ball movement like pindowns etc (MJ), then a 1 ball-dominator setup with no doubles and weak ball movement (lebron)... The only reason lebron isn't a career loser (0 rings) like his fellow ball-dominators cp3/nash is because he team-hopped for extra talent to offset his suboptimal style
.

Didn't I read somewhere that Jordan never led a championship team in defense? This would mean that either Scottie Pippen or Dennis Rodman was the defensive anchor of any championship Bulls team. So how are you only talking about scoring as it relates to Scottie Pippen and completely dismissing his rebounding and defense?

superduper
10-17-2019, 03:10 PM
Only Bran stans talk about it, no one else gives a shit about the biggest asterisk ring in history.

Uncle Drew
10-17-2019, 03:19 PM
Only Bran stans talk about it, no one else gives a shit about the biggest asterisk ring in history.
3 years later, still seething. Greatest championship of all time.

Turbo Slayer
10-17-2019, 03:22 PM
3 years later, still seething. Greatest championship of all time.
:rockon: yep. Still seething. :roll:

Turbo Slayer
10-17-2019, 03:58 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72FiRWbinrq1YKti/giphy.gif


:cheers:

warriorfan
10-17-2019, 04:04 PM
Because it

Turbo Slayer
10-17-2019, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Because it

warriorfan
10-17-2019, 04:12 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/TRcclcu2fKcgM/giphy.gif

Didn’t matter because it was already asterisked at that point. The gif should have Curry throwing an asterisk out of bounds.

Rico2016
10-17-2019, 04:15 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/TRcclcu2fKcgM/giphy.gif


Ouch ...

LAmbruh
10-17-2019, 04:17 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/SvQtqiyN8JUIz3ULDK/giphy.gif
yikes :roll: :roll:

DoctorP
10-17-2019, 06:03 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/TRcclcu2fKcgM/giphy.gif

:lol

WTF Dingo

3ball
10-17-2019, 06:34 PM
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Kyrie owning Curry... :facepalm

Goat 2nd option performance - locked up the league MVP, averaged 27 ppg, and hit the series winner... :bowdown: ..

it's actually kyrie's ring, and Lebron just did the dirty work like rebounding and defense.

SamuraiSWISH
10-21-2019, 02:03 AM
Because the 2016 Finals were one of the most rigged series in NBA history.
True. That game 6 officiating in Cleveland with calling all those ridiculous ticky tack calls on a smoking hot Stephanie Curry was so transparent.