ranking each title throughout the last 30 years from best to worst

[kennethgriffen]

#1 - Kobe 2009 ( 3rd best player was derek fisher :biggums: )
#2 - Hakeem 1994
#3 - Dirk 2011 ( 1 guy beating a superteam )
#4 - Kobe 2001 ( playoff mvp during record 15-1 run )
#5 - Kobe 2010 ( 1.5 guys beating a superteam )
#6 - Jordan 1992
#7 - Jordan 1998 ( beating a better team and hitting the title winning shot )
#8 - Kyrie 2016 ( kinda tainted but he carried the cavs to all 4 wins )
#9 - Shaq 2000 ( great but he choked in game 4 )
#10 - Duncan 2003 ( great but he needed kobe to get injured )
#11 - Rodman 1996 ( still dunno how the bulls won that )
#12 - Pippen 1991 ( locked up magic )
#13 - Hakeem 1995
#14 - Jordan 1993 ( lucky semi bail out out but he dominated )
#15 - Shaq 2002
#16 - Manu 2005 ( led in ppg and apg for their 4 wins )
#17 - Kawhi 2014 ( a baby beating "the king" lol )
#18 - Ray 2013 ( the greatest shot of all time )
#19 - Jordan 1997 ( ditto..lucky semi bail out out but he dominated )
#20 - Zeke 1989
#21 - Curry 2015 ( probly shoulda won finals mvp but didn't beat a hurt team )
#22 - Billups 2004 ( cool team title )
#23 - Parker 2007 ( cool team title )
#24 - Dumars 1989 ( cool team title )
#25 - Pierce 2008 ( collusion )
#26 - Durant 2017 ( i like the guy but common.. )
#27 - Durant 2018 ( again but vs an even weaker cavs lol )
#28 - Lebron 2012 ( 60 game lockout fake season )
#29 - Duncan 1999 ( 50 game lockout fake season )
#30 - Wade 2006 ( void. fake title due to league manipulation for all 4 victories. not even just 1 iffy game like the lakers 2002.. but ALL of them? jesus christ )


http://www.rantsports.com/nba/wp-content/slideshow/2014/02/top-10-kobe-bryant-career-achievements/medium/Kobe-Bryant-2-Trophies-Getty-Images.jpg

[k0kakw0rld]

You really got time on your hands. What are you doing on a friday afternoon trying to prove a point about LeBron James? :facepalm


GET A LIFE IDIOT

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe and Hakeem stand alone when it comes to lack of help for a back to back title team.

[superduper]

WTF an 8ppg on 39% career player was a 3rd option on a championship team?? :biggums: :biggums:

I've ****ing seen enough Kobe just moved up to top 5

[kennethgriffen]

https://i.imgur.com/RbgYhzI.gif




:roll:

[BigKobeFan]

Kobe and Hakeem stand alone when it comes to lack of help for a back to back title team.

I don't know man...The second best player in 2011 was jason terry.

[stalkerforlife]

I don't know man...The second best player in 2011 was jason terry.

I said back to back title team.

Mavs won one.

[kennethgriffen]

I don't know man...The second best player in 2011 was jason terry.


dallas had a deep team though.. they weren't top heavy sure. but they had an older kidd, peja, marion, DPOTY chandler to go with terry who outperformed lebron... shit even barea locked up that ph@ggot a bunch during that series


dirks title was awesome but i can't put it over kobe/dream

[kennethgriffen]

I said back to back title team.

Mavs won one.


:applause:

[Smoke117]

Not only did Kenny not leave he's actually posting more than ever. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn bruh, you

[Skip_Bayless]

You really got time on your hands. What are you doing on a friday afternoon trying to prove a point about LeBron James? :facepalm


GET A LIFE IDIOT

From what it looks like, he was trying to make a point about Wade.

Do you think about LeBron James non stop or something?

[TheCorporation]

Not only did Kenny not leave he's actually posting more than ever. :oldlol:


He'a an incredible moron

Also:

12be :(

[Smoke117]

It's also amusing how he goes on about Wheels yet his threads are just as worthless and stupid as all the one's him and his alts make.

[kennethgriffen]

He'a an incredible moron

Also:

12be :(


i thought this was what you wanted?

[Manny98]

It's also amusing how he goes on about Wheels yet his threads are just as worthless and stupid as all the one's him and his alts make.
That is what's funny he acts like he's one of the intelligent normal posters but he's the dumbest troll on here :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

What a beautiful meltdown. Thank you. 2016 will live on forever and only get better.

[Smoke117]

That is what's funny he acts like he's one of the intelligent normal posters but he's the dumbest troll on here :oldlol:

Shut up, Wheels.

[kennethgriffen]

What a beautiful meltdown. Thank you. 2016 will live on forever and only get better.

2016 is actually pretty high on my list

[Wally450]

What an agenda driven thread.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I had to see where he put 2016 when I opened it up.

[Uncle Drew]

2016 is actually pretty high on my list
Keep them coming Kenny.

[PistonsFan#21]

All trolling aside whats your argument for Kobe 2009 over Dirk 2011? Not only did Dirk beat the better teams but he did it in a more dominant way. He was also a huge underdog for the most part. Kobe was playing on a stacked team (for 2009 standards)and faced an injured team in the Finals

[TheCorporation]

What a beautiful meltdown. Thank you. 2016 will live on forever and only get better.

https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg

[kennethgriffen]

All trolling aside whats your argument for Kobe 2009 over Dirk 2011? Not only did Dirk beat the better teams but he did it in a more dominant way. He was also a huge underdog for the most part. Kobe was playing on a stacked team for 2009 standards and faced an injured team in the Finals


i think kobe had a slightly better number 2. but dirk had a waaaaay better 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10


beating the big 3 cheatles was epic as **** but lebron had more to do with the heat losing than anyone tbh


even terry outperformed him



when you go down the list of players after gasol/terry its amazingly 1 sided


Marion >>>>>>>>>>>>> crack head
Kidd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fisher
Barea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farmar
DPOTY Chandler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6ppg bynum
Peja >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ariza
haywood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mbenga
stevenson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> luke
brewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morrison

[superduper]

what a lazy comeback


i can do that too


cavs first victory:

0-2 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 12 ft
0-4 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
0-6 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
4-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
4-19 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
6-21 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft
8-23 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
10-25+2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
10-30+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 24 ft
13-33+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft

game over... cavs never looked back


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cavs 2nd victory tied 61-61 at half time

K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft +2 63-61
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 67-64
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 69-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 71-66
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 74-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft +2 77-71
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by L. James) +3 80-73
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft +3 89-80
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 95-87
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 16 ft +2 97-88
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 101-92
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 104-96
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 14 ft +2 106-96
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 109-96


game over.. cavs never looked back



-----------------------



cavs 3rd victory

0-4 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
0-6 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
0-8 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 3 ft
2-11 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft
2-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
7-20 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
9-26 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
13-34 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft
18-37 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
26-43 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot at rim


game over ... cavs never looked back


all in all...

kyrie scored 51 points on 22 field goals in key moments
lebron scored 26 points on 12 field goals in key moments



then after lebron missed his last 4 shots in game 7 kyrie did this to win the title

https://i.gifer.com/72t9.gif

Look at this well researched and factual ether.

Then look at Bran stan rebuttals of "6900 playoff pts!! Playoff series wins!!!! :mad: :mad: "

Kobe fam are too educated for these 18yr old Brantards

[Smoke117]

i think kobe had a slightly better number 2. but dirk had a waaaaay better 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10


beating the big 3 cheatles was epic as **** but lebron had more to do with the heat losing than anyone tbh


even terry outperformed him



when you go down the list of players after gasol/terry its amazingly 1 sided


Marion >>>>>>>>>>>>> crack head
Kidd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fisher
Barea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farmar
DPOTY Chandler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6ppg bynum
Peja >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ariza
haywood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mbenga
stevenson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> luke
brewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morrison

I'm not going to look up more than this, but I just picked one random one and lets see:


2011 playoffs:

Peja - 18.1mpg 7.1ppg 1.7rpg 0.7apg .403%fg .377%3pt .540%ts 12.0per 0.7bpm

2009 playoffs:

Ariza - 31.4mpg 11.1ppg 4.2rpg 2.3apg 1.6spg .497%fg .473%3pt .610%ts 14.9 per 5.0bpm

Good call, bruh. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm not going to look up more than this, but I just picked one random one and lets see:


2011 playoffs:

Peja - 18.1mpg 7.1ppg 1.7rpg 0.7apg .403%fg .377%3pt .540%ts 12.0per 0.7bpm

2009 playoffs:

Ariza - 31.4mpg 11.1ppg 4.2rpg 2.3apg 1.6spg .497%fg .473%3pt .610%ts 14.9 per 5.0bpm

Good call, bruh. :oldlol:
Not to mention dude played 26 minutes TOTAL in the Finals :lol

[Smoke117]

Not to mention dude played 26 minutes TOTAL in the Finals :lol

Trying to say a 2011 Marion was better than a 2009 Odom is also full on retard shit. Of course, though, this is a kobe stan. He did it all alone.

[kennethgriffen]

I'm not going to look up more than this, but I just picked one random one and lets see:


2011 playoffs:

Peja - 18.1mpg 7.1ppg 1.7rpg 0.7apg .403%fg .377%3pt .540%ts 12.0per 0.7bpm

2009 playoffs:

Ariza - 31.4mpg 11.1ppg 4.2rpg 2.3apg 1.6spg .497%fg .473%3pt .610%ts 14.9 per 5.0bpm

Good call, bruh. :oldlol:

peja was basically their 10th option

ariza was their 4th option


as players you know for a fact peja was better when called upon and stretches the floor better on offense

ariza was ok at the time but he was really just a defensive role player


their statistical differences were purely opportunistic

[kennethgriffen]

Not to mention dude played 26 minutes TOTAL in the Finals :lol



this only proves my point even more... if the lakers had peja they woulda been asking him to be their 3rd option ahead of fisher

:roll:

[Smoke117]

peja was basically their 10th option

ariza was their 4th option


as players you know for a fact peja was better when called upon and stretches the floor better on offense

ariza was ok at the time but he was really just a defensive role player


their statistical differences were purely opportunistic

Peja played 26 mins total in the finals as was just stated. Ariza was better, period. STFU you stupid fanboy retard. You're just as bad as Simon.

[kennethgriffen]

Peja played 26 mins total in the finals as was just stated. He was better, period. STFU you stupid fanboy retard. You're just as bad as Simon.



see above

[TheCorporation]

#1 - Kobe 2009 ( 3rd best player was derek fisher :biggums: )
#2 - Hakeem 1994
#3 - Dirk 2011 ( 1 guy beating a superteam )
#4 - Kobe 2001 ( playoff mvp during record 15-1 run )
#5 - Kobe 2010 ( 1.5 guys beating a superteam )
#6 - Jordan 1992
#7 - Jordan 1998 ( beating a better team and hitting the title winning shot )
#8 - Kyrie 2016 ( kinda tainted but he carried the cavs to all 4 wins )
#9 - Shaq 2000 ( great but he choked in game 4 )
#10 - Duncan 2003 ( great but he needed kobe to get injured )
#11 - Rodman 1996 ( still dunno how the bulls won that )
#12 - Pippen 1991 ( locked up magic )
#13 - Hakeem 1995
#14 - Jordan 1993 ( lucky semi bail out out but he dominated )
#15 - Shaq 2002
#16 - Manu 2005 ( led in ppg and apg for their 4 wins )
#17 - Kawhi 2014 ( a baby beating "the king" lol )
#18 - Ray 2013 ( the greatest shot of all time )
#19 - Jordan 1997 ( ditto..lucky semi bail out out but he dominated )
#20 - Zeke 1989
#21 - Curry 2015 ( probly shoulda won finals mvp but didn't beat a hurt team )
#22 - Billups 2004 ( cool team title )
#23 - Parker 2007 ( cool team title )
#24 - Dumars 1989 ( cool team title )
#25 - Pierce 2008 ( collusion )
#26 - Durant 2017 ( i like the guy but common.. )
#27 - Durant 2018 ( again but vs an even weaker cavs lol )
#28 - Lebron 2012 ( 60 game lockout fake season )
#29 - Duncan 1999 ( 50 game lockout fake season )
#30 - Wade 2006 ( void. fake title due to league manipulation for all 4 victories. not even just 1 iffy game like the lakers 2002.. but ALL of them? jesus christ )


http://www.rantsports.com/nba/wp-content/slideshow/2014/02/top-10-kobe-bryant-career-achievements/medium/Kobe-Bryant-2-Trophies-Getty-Images.jpg

So THIS is what a meltdown looks like

[Smoke117]

see above

See what above? You've been saying this stupid ass shit for years. Marion wasn't better than Odom either. Of course, it fits your agenda that Kobe did everything so you tear down every player he played with...remind you of any other poster here? That guy you had a meltdown over a few days ago, maybe? You're both equally pathetic.

[kennethgriffen]

See what above? You've been saying this stupid ass shit for years. Marion wasn't better than Odom either. Of course, it fits your agenda that Kobe did everything so you tear down every player he played with...remind you of any other poster here? That guy you had a meltdown over a few days ago, maybe? You're both equally pathetic.



you don't get it do you. you're trying to prove dirk had less help by saying they didn't even need to play peja stojakovic who averaged 13ppg on 40% threes 1 year prior on new orleans

[Smoke117]

you don't get it do you. you're trying to prove dirk had less help by saying they didn't even need to play peja stojakovic who averaged 13ppg on 40% threes 1 year prior on new orleans

Tell us how Marion was better than Odom now?

Marion 2011 playoffs: 32.9mpg 11.9ppg 6.3rpg 2.1apg 1.0spg 0.9bpg .509%ts 15.1per 3.1bpm

Odom 2009 playoffs: 32.0mpg 12.9ppg 9.1rpg 1.8apg 0.7spg 1.3bpg .587%ts 18.0per 4.6bpm

[superduper]

Tell us how Marion was better than Odom now?

Marion 2011 playoffs: 32.9mpg 11.9ppg 6.3rpg 2.1apg 1.0spg 0.9bpg .509%ts 15.1per 3.1bpm

Odom 2009 playoffs: 32.0mpg 12.9ppg 9.1rpg 1.8apg 0.7spg 1.3bpg .587%ts 18.0per 4.6bpm

Defense.
Intangibles.

Marion was oozing both. Odom was anemic in both.

Basketball isn't remotely close to being played on paper and the fact that the stats are close are even more laughable in Marion's favor.

[Smoke117]

Defense.
Intangibles.

Marion was oozing both. Odom was anemic in both.

Basketball isn't remotely close to being played on paper.

Another stupid take by one of the biggest morons on the boards. Odom was one of the most versatile defensive players in the league at this point in his career. Trying to say he was anemic defensively is basically admitting what an agenda driven troll retard you are.

[kennethgriffen]

Tell us how Marion was better than Odom now?

Marion 2011 playoffs: 32.9mpg 11.9ppg 6.3rpg 2.1apg 1.0spg 0.9bpg .509%ts 15.1per 3.1bpm

Odom 2009 playoffs: 32.0mpg 12.9ppg 9.1rpg 1.8apg 0.7spg 1.3bpg .587%ts 18.0per 4.6bpm


ever heard of a thing called defense

:lol

[superduper]

ever heard of a thing called defense

:lol

Guy compared Marion's and Odom's defense :facepalm :facepalm

The work is done here :rockon:

[Smoke117]

ever heard of a thing called defense

:lol

Odom was one of the better defensive forwards in the league around this time you moron. You stans regardless of who you stan are just pathetic.

[kennethgriffen]

Odom was one of the better defensive forwards in the league around this time you moron. You stans regardless of who you stan are just pathetic.



you do realize "one of the better" is like saying "above average" which can mean somewhere inbetween top 60-70th out of 150 or so right?


marion was regarded as one of the top 5 on ball defensive forwards for a long time




lebron routinely murdered odom while getting routinely shut down by marion

[PistonsFan#21]

ever heard of a thing called defense

:lol

Why didnt you mention defense when comparing Ariza to Peja Stojakovic then?

[kennethgriffen]

Why didnt you mention defense when comparing Ariza to Peja Stojakovic then?


i think ariza might be the only matchup the lakers would win after kobe

but like i said. peja was their 12th man while ariza was the lakers 4th guy

[Spurs m8]

Your Kobe bias means no one can take you seriously when you make threads like this

[PistonsFan#21]

i think ariza might be the only matchup the lakers would win after kobe

but like i said. peja was their 12th man while ariza was the lakers 4th guy

Yea but like i said Dallas in 2011 were big underdogs and were facing a big 3 all in their prime. Lakers were playing against a team led by 23 year old Dwight Howard who didnt have any Finals experience prior.

Just for comparison sake heres the head to head matchup Derek Fisher had with the opposing starting point guard for Olando:

Fisher: 11pts, 3rebs, 1.8ast, 1.2stl on 50%FG and 43.8% 3pt

Rafer Alston: 10.6pt, 2.2reb, 3ast, 0.8stl on 36.8%FG and 15.8% 3pt

I guess Fisher isnt as bad as it gets afterall (and that's without taking into account his clutch gene and superior leader abilities) :confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffen]

Yea but like i said Dallas in 2011 were big underdogs and were facing a big 3 all in their prime. Lakers were playing against a team led by 23 year old Dwight Howard who didnt have any Finals experience prior.

Just for comparison sake heres the head to head matchup Derek Fisher had with the opposing starting point guard for Olando:

Fisher: 11pts, 3rebs, 1.8ast, 1.2stl on 50%FG and 43.8% 3pt

Rafer Alston: 10.6pt, 2.2reb, 3ast, 0.8stl on 36.8%FG and 15.8% 3pt

I guess Fisher isnt as bad as it gets afterall (and that's without taking into account his clutch gene and superior leader abilities) :confusedshrug:


lebron was probably the main reason the heat lost though... even terry owned his ass

kobe was the main reason the lakers won every series in 2009 and his team just had way more insignificant scrubs


i think just taking lebron off miami would have given them a better chance.

[AussieSteve]

Kyrie carried the Cavs to all 4 wins in 2016 :facepalm

In 4 wins... LeBron / Kyrie

Points... 141 / 120
Rebounds... 46 / 17
Assists... 35 / 18
Steals... 10 / 6
Blocks... 11 / 4

:facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

kobe 09?

when he beat boozer, battier, melo, and howard?




















:lol



anyway at this points im not sure its even worth it to pick on his bball opinions anymore

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie carried the Cavs to all 4 wins in 2016 :facepalm

In 4 wins... LeBron / Kyrie

Points... 141 / 120
Rebounds... 46 / 17
Assists... 35 / 18
Steals... 10 / 6
Blocks... 11 / 4

:facepalm

:roll:


Exposed again :lol

[imdaman99]

GET A LIFE IDIOT
Don't you live near him? Why don't you find him and beat the sht outa him. You will be an ISH legend for it.

[AussieSteve]

2009 Kobe is not even top 10. Maybe not top 20.

A case could easily be made that Pau was the MVP of that series. Scored more than any magic player and kept Dwight to 6.3ppg less than he averaged the rest of the 2009 playoffs.

Also Derek Fisher was the 4th, maybe 5th, best player on that Laker team.

[RRR3]

Don't you live near him? Why don't you find him and beat the sht outa him. You will be an ISH legend for it.
Whoa let’s not encourage violence fellas

[imdaman99]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Whoa let