With KD, it

[Walk on Water]

When they get down by 15 or 20, it’s hard for them to comeback with KD. But today they came back from down 18. With KD there, the brand of ball they play isn’t as good. It’s not as free. Even Green isn’t as good with KD there.

KD is just a good insurance against teams that already match up well with the Warriors. But overall he doesn’t make them better, he’s just a weapon against specific teams. 30-1 in the last 31 games without him.

There’s a high chance the Warriors would have lost to the Rockets if KD played. Last year the Warriors would have probably beat the Rockets �� in 5 if KD didn’t play.

The stats are there for you folks. This isn’t controversial.

[ImKobe]

What about blowing leads?

They blew a 3 - 1 lead without KD...

[Stephonit]

The Warriors are very capable of making comebacks with KD (e.g. 50 point quarter vs. Clippers in 2017, Game 1 WCF 2017 vs. Spurs). In previous seasons they did so often. It's only in this season that they haven't done it with the regularity they did so before. The OP might have a point though for this season. KD tends to have a lower gear in the regular season. Draymond too this last season. Klay was in a bit of a slump. The multiple deep playoff runs might have contributed to it.

[plowking]

I just don't understand how the West is so tough, yet a team is steamrolling through easy peasy without two of their best players. One being the apparent best player in the league.

Can anyone else show me a time when a team went through the playoffs without their two best players and made it comfortably to the finals?

[JohnMax]

People are scared to say it but Durant is just another one dimensional scorer like Carmelo Anthony or Adrian Dantley

Every elite two-way SF is better than him; Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, Paul George

Difference is he puts up great stats so league rigs games for his team, making him look better than he really is.

[hold this L]

I just don't understand how the West is so tough, yet a team is steamrolling through easy peasy without two of their best players. One being the apparent best player in the league.

Can anyone else show me a time when a team went through the playoffs without their two best players and made it comfortably to the finals?
Was there ever a time a team couldn't sweep a single team until they went to the finals and swept only that team?

Other than Cavs in 2018, when has that happened before?

[SpaceJam2]

I just don't understand how the West is so tough, yet a team is steamrolling through easy peasy without two of their best players. One being the apparent best player in the league.

Can anyone else show me a time when a team went through the playoffs without their two best players and made it comfortably to the finals?


Weak West

2017 they went 12-0 (100% winrate)

[plowking]

Was there ever a time a team couldn't sweep a single team until they went to the finals and swept only that team?

Other than Cavs in 2018, when has that happened before?

Yes, that has happened before. The Cavs didn't do that. But continue.

Now can you answer my question?

[RRR3]

Was there ever a time a team couldn't sweep a single team until they went to the finals and swept only that team?

Other than Cavs in 2018, when has that happened before?
Yep that win in game 1 of the 2018 finals was totally legit.

[NBAGOAT]

Was there ever a time a team couldn't sweep a single team until they went to the finals and swept only that team?

Other than Cavs in 2018, when has that happened before?

lol i think you knew cavs 2007 was another answer.

[hold this L]

lol i think you knew cavs 2007 was another answer.
Damn, two times :eek: :eek:

Who led those teams?

[NBAGOAT]

Damn, two times :eek: :eek:

Who led those teams?

the only guy to ever beat the warriors core :D

[SouBeachTalents]

the only guy to ever beat the warriors core :D
:oldlol:

[plowking]

the only guy to ever beat the warriors core :D

Shit. :mad:

[hold this L]

the only guy to ever beat the warriors core :D
1-3

[NBAGOAT]

1-3

when you're facing a dynasty level team that's not bad. We see how often older guys here prop up 90s stars just for taking Jordan's Bulls to 6 games :oldlol:

[RRR3]

1-3
1-0 when the teams were evenly matched.

[SouBeachTalents]

1-3
He did come back from 1-3 down, that's true

[hold this L]

when you're facing a dynasty level team that's not bad. We see how often older guys here prop up 90s stars just for taking Jordan's Bulls to 6 games :oldlol:
Not the expectations I would use for an all time great like Bron though.

[NBAGOAT]

Not the expectations I would use for an all time great like Bron though.

it's ok when that dynasty level team becomes the greatest healthy team of all time with a fa addition your last year of your own super team.

I remember backpicks posted srs for games with and without durant(decent sample size too since durant missed 20 games). The warriors in 17 already put up like a 10.5srs without him(67 win pace) but rose to a 14.5srs with him(73 win pace). The next closest all time is the Bulls in 96 at like 13.5. Really not going expect almost any team to beat them.

[plowking]

Yes, that has happened before. The Cavs didn't do that. But continue.

Now can you answer my question?

Still waiting for that answer. Anyone?

[34-24 Footwork]

Was there ever a time a team couldn't sweep a single team until they went to the finals and swept only that team?

Other than Cavs in 2018, when has that happened before?

Lmao. Jesus.

[SpaceJam2]

when you're facing a dynasty level team that's not bad. We see how often older guys here prop up 90s stars just for taking Jordan's Bulls to 6 games :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

[34-24 Footwork]

Damn, two times :eek: :eek:

Who led those teams?

It's like they bury themselves deeper and deeper :lol :lol

Crazy to think that the guy whose been the leader of the TWO different teams filled with all-stars has led his teams to RECORD MARGIN beatdowns in the NBA finals.

Reminder that the geriatric Mavericks took those 2014 Spurs to 7 games in the first round.

Some players just lose more than they win...and there's nothing wrong with that.