Did Kyrie peak in 2016 under GOAT leadership?

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie will be in the hall because of GOAT leadership that elevated him. Without Bron he'd be another Kemba Walker.

I'm sure by now even the foreigners streaming this year's playoffs have seen the 2nd round (Boston v Milwaukee) and saw how Kyrie fared on a stacked team without GOAT leadership.

Will we ever see another GOAT leadership peak like we did with 2016 Kyrie?

I keep hearing how people cant succeed under Bron Ball and in the same breathe praise Kyrie for going on a tear under Bron Ball. Which is it?

[NBAGOAT]

his peak was last year. Good chance at finals appearance if healthy

[SpaceJam2]

his peak was last year. Good chance at finals appearance if healthy

Lol

So he wasn't that good in 2016? Or he was?

[NBAGOAT]

Lol

So he wasn't that good in 2016? Or he was?

he was very good in 16. Might've been better last year

[SpaceJam2]

he was very good in 16. Might've been better last year

2018 v 2016 playoff stats please? Regular season? Worse in both? :lol

So he peaked in 2018 and plummeted in 2019?

I thought you were a good poster

[ImKobe]

Kyrie's always been the same player. All the Cavs had to do was hand him the ball and get the **** out of the way.

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie's always been the same player. All the Cavs had to do was hand him the ball and get the **** out of the way.

Hmm yeah...No

Did you watch the BOS v MIL series or nah :lol

[LeCola]

74368456362th thread about same subject. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[ImKobe]

Hmm yeah...No

Did you watch the BOS v MIL series or nah :lol

Yes I did. Irving got all the shots he wanted, he was simply missing them and his teammates were bricking the open 3s he was creating for them.

[SpaceJam2]

Yes I did. Irving got all the shots he wanted, he was simply missing them and his teammates were bricking the open 3s he was creating for them.

Numbers please?

Close to 2016 or nah

[ImKobe]

Numbers please?

Close to 2016 or nah

Act like Lebron's never had a bad shooting series :rolleyes:

[SpaceJam2]

Act like Lebron's never had a bad shooting series :rolleyes:

Please?

[greymatter]

He's the modern day Adrian Dantley of PGs. Can't make his team good enough to make the playoffs as the #1 option. Adds minimal impact when joining a playoff caliber team. Also wouldn't have a single AS berth to his career if not for the changing of the AS game format (no more east vs west) and the fact that he had to compete against John Wall and the likes of Kyle Lowry instead of Curry, CP3, Westbrook, and Lillard.

Being a HOFer isn't nearly as prestigious as it once was. After the Dream Team, the floodgates opened for basically everyone: international players/coaches, women. The basketball HOF isn't treated as an NBA HOF as much as the other professional sports like baseball, football, hockey's HOF are basically MLB/NFL/NHL.

[SpaceJam2]

He's the modern day Adrian Dantley of PGs. Can't make his team good enough to make the playoffs as the #1 option. Adds minimal impact when joining a playoff caliber team. Also wouldn't have a single AS berth to his career if not for the changing of the AS game format (no more east vs west) and the fact that he had to compete against John Wall and the likes of Kyle Lowry instead of Curry, CP3, Westbrook, and Lillard.

Being a HOFer isn't nearly as prestigious as it once was. After the Dream Team, the floodgates opened for basically everyone: international players/coaches, women. The basketball HOF isn't treated as an NBA HOF as much as the other professional sports like baseball, football, hockey's HOF are basically MLB/NFL/NHL.

:applause: :applause:

[bigkingsfan]

Act like Lebron's never had a bad shooting series :rolleyes:
Kyrie was shit, even the first round.

[NBAGOAT]

He's the modern day Adrian Dantley of PGs. Can't make his team good enough to make the playoffs as the #1 option. Adds minimal impact when joining a playoff caliber team. Also wouldn't have a single AS berth to his career if not for the changing of the AS game format (no more east vs west) and the fact that he had to compete against John Wall and the likes of Kyle Lowry instead of Curry, CP3, Westbrook, and Lillard.

Being a HOFer isn't nearly as prestigious as it once was. After the Dream Team, the floodgates opened for basically everyone: international players/coaches, women. The basketball HOF isn't treated as an NBA HOF as much as the other professional sports like baseball, football, hockey's HOF are basically MLB/NFL/NHL.

dantley was still like a top 15 player in the league however. I think you're underselling kyrie's playmaking skills too. He's not nearly the black hole dantley was

[PeroAntic]

Bran stans are so insecure, its pathetic.

[greymatter]

dantley was still like a top 15 player in the league however. I think you're underselling kyrie's playmaking skills too. He's not nearly the black hole dantley was

His style of play was basically an inferior version of pre-Dantoni Harden. His pre LeReturn seasons in Cleveland was basically just watching him dribble the ball for 20 seconds before shooting.

[3ball]

Truly elite shooters thrive alongside lebron (Mo, Kyrie), while everyone is reduced (Jamison, Bosh, Love, Wade, Rodney Hood, Rose, Crowder, IT, ****ing everyone)

Unfortunately, lebron's skill restriction to ball-dominance made him so reliant on one kind of player (shooters), that he ceded the best brand of ball, offenses, and teams to others in his era, 3/9

[SpaceJam2]

Truly elite shooters thrive alongside lebron (Mo, Kyrie), while everyone is reduced (Jamison, Bosh, Love, Wade, Rodney Hood, Rose, Crowder, IT, ****ing everyone)

Unfortunately, lebron's skill restriction to ball-dominance made him so reliant on one kind of player (shooters), that he ceded the best brand of ball, offenses, and teams to others in his era, 3/9

How's your meltdown going

[3ball]

How's your meltdown going
Im good

Just dropping truth bombs on you guys itt

I have you guys saying your god popovich is a dummy in the other thread.. so I'm doing great.. :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

How's your meltdown going
Midlife crisises are nothing to joke about.

[3ball]

Midlife crisises are nothing to joke about.
Anytime you guys start talking like this, it's because you can't respond and know I'm right

And are understandably annoyed by it

[Celtics 1825]

Yes. Originally I disagreed but at this point I've seen enough. Kyrie can't lead a team.

[Uncle Drew]

Anytime you guys start talking like this, it's because you can't respond and know I'm right

And are understandably annoyed by it
With every post you make, my joy goes up yet another level. It's funny to see so much damage control coming from one person. What's even worse is that I am 100% certain that you think you are in the right. In reality, you're digging your own grave another feet deeper with every sentence, and it's the most beautiful thing to witness. Please, carry on, knock yourself out.

[SpaceJam2]

Midlife crisises are nothing to joke about.

:lol :lol

[CTbasketball92]

Kyrie was shit, even the first round.

Kyrie's playoff run was ultimately a miserable one for his image, but I think it will lead to some takes like the one posed by this thread. And his first round playoff series was actually sort of evidence of how much he can affect the game if he's not scoring particularly well.


He averaged 22.5/8 on like 55 TS% and they swept the pacers how they were supposed to. The defense on him was tough, just like it was against the bucks, but he just happened to be in a really bad shooting slump.

Against the bucks he shot something like 28% on jumpshots. Looked like he could still get his shots off comfortably, but he missed. That's on him, for sure, but it's not necessarily defining. I'll wait until next year.

He's still a top 15 player, but he's gotta be out of the top 10 discussion like he was for much of this year.

[NBASTATMAN]

:applause: Kyrie under Lebron is a great player:bowdown:

[SpaceJam2]

:applause: Kyrie under Lebron is a great player:bowdown:

You know it my dude :cheers:

Night and day with and without Papa James

[AintNoSunshine]

all I know is he ain't shit without LeBron. Won one playoff series in how many years?

[Manny98]

Midlife crisises are nothing to joke about.
:oldlol:

[paksat]

kyrie peaking had nothing to do with l39ron

why do you think kyrie wanted to get away from him? just like everyone does...

the season before l39ron showed up, I can't see ANY difference between that kyrie and the kyrie with l39ron

now on the celtics, kyrie has gotten slimmer. He used to bully all the guards, pretty much ALL of them. Curry got smoked by him and he's considerably bigger then him.

Now? Kyrie is getting bullied by almost everyone.

So I blame it on 3 things.

1. Vegan diet

2. He's off l39ron's steroid diet ( not certain, but it's certainly possible )

3. l39ron ruined him like he does every player

[TheCorporation]

kyrie peaking had nothing to do with l39ron

why do you think kyrie wanted to get away from him? just like everyone does...

the season before l39ron showed up, I can't see ANY difference between that kyrie and the kyrie with l39ron

now on the celtics, kyrie has gotten slimmer. He used to bully all the guards, pretty much ALL of them. Curry got smoked by him and he's considerably bigger then him.

Now? Kyrie is getting bullied by almost everyone.

So I blame it on 3 things.

1. Vegan diet

2. He's off l39ron's steroid diet ( not certain, but it's certainly possible )

3. l39ron ruined him like he does every player

Your meltdowns are glorious. Keep it up cutie pie

[paksat]

Your meltdowns are glorious. Keep it up cutie pie

lol every time me 3 ball or one of these other bosses own you peasants, this is all you can say


call it whatever you want loser :roll:

[TheCorporation]

lol every time me 3 ball or one of these other bosses own you peasants, this is all you can say


call it whatever you want loser :roll:

Pakt ass

Melting again

[paksat]

Pakt ass

Melting again

are you literally ever off this board? I've been to 3 different places in town in just the last hour

It's been what 2 hours? since I made the post before that yet here you are answering with the same retarded shit not even 30 seconds after I reply

life is a "meltdown" for you

[TheCorporation]

are you literally ever off this board? I've been to 3 different places in town in just the last hour

It's been what 2 hours? since I made the post before that yet here you are answering with the same retarded shit not even 30 seconds after I reply

life is a "meltdown" for you

Meltdown

[paksat]

Meltdown

Meltdown

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie will be in the hall because of GOAT leadership that elevated him. Without Bron he'd be another Kemba Walker.

I'm sure by now even the foreigners streaming this year's playoffs have seen the 2nd round (Boston v Milwaukee) and saw how Kyrie fared on a stacked team without GOAT leadership.

Will we ever see another GOAT leadership peak like we did with 2016 Kyrie?

I keep hearing how people cant succeed under Bron Ball and in the same breathe praise Kyrie for going on a tear under Bron Ball. Which is it?

Anyone at all? Any single soul?

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie will be in the hall because of GOAT leadership that elevated him. Without Bron he'd be another Kemba Walker.

I'm sure by now even the foreigners streaming this year's playoffs have seen the 2nd round (Boston v Milwaukee) and saw how Kyrie fared on a stacked team without GOAT leadership.

Will we ever see another GOAT leadership peak like we did with 2016 Kyrie?

I keep hearing how people cant succeed under Bron Ball and in the same breathe praise Kyrie for going on a tear under Bron Ball. Which is it?

Anyone?

[superduper]

2/9 without Kyrie
1/9 without Ray
0/? without collusion

[SpaceJam2]

2/9 without Kyrie
1/9 without Ray
0/? without collusion

Sure, and 1-9 without Pippen.

2ez
:dancin

Can we get serious now?

[bigkingsfan]

Sure, and 1-9 without Pippen.

2ez
:dancin

Can we get serious now?
It would actually be 0/0 :eek:

[TheCorporation]

3ball?

[TheCorporation]

kyrie peaking had nothing to do with l39ron

why do you think kyrie wanted to get away from him? just like everyone does...

the season before l39ron showed up, I can't see ANY difference between that kyrie and the kyrie with l39ron

now on the celtics, kyrie has gotten slimmer. He used to bully all the guards, pretty much ALL of them. Curry got smoked by him and he's considerably bigger then him.

Now? Kyrie is getting bullied by almost everyone.

So I blame it on 3 things.

1. Vegan diet

2. He's off l39ron's steroid diet ( not certain, but it's certainly possible )

3. l39ron ruined him like he does every player


Wrong

To prove he didn't "need" him. We saw what happened next :lol

Keep up

Then DONT cry when the Lakers get everyone this season. I dont want to hear it

[red1]

bruh lebron and kyrie is a match made by god himself



when bron bricks three midrange shots in a row and a couple of free-throws he can just pass it to kyrie who has no other skills but is desperately dying to chuck a few shots and score 1on1.



that's an mj/pippen or shaq/kobe level duo. just a perfect fit.

[TheCorporation]

bruh lebron and kyrie is a match made by god himself



when bron bricks three midrange shots in a row and a couple of free-throws he can just pass it to kyrie who has no other skills but is desperately dying to chuck a few shots and score 1on1.



that's an mj/pippen or shaq/kobe level duo. just a perfect fit.


Dat peak :rockon:

[red1]

Dat peak :rockon:
and kyrie has a ring as a 1b or 2nd option while he lit up the other team dropping 41 in a CRUCIAL game - kyrie would NEVER sniff a ring situation as the de facto leader of a team. he just isn't good enough.


honestly he still owes lebron HEAVY.

[LostCause]

Kyrie irrefutably had his best play while in Boston. At least in regards to the regular season. That playoff performance was outright terrible. It was likely just a petulant

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=LostCause]Kyrie irrefutably had his best play while in Boston. At least in regards to the regular season. That playoff performance was outright terrible. It was likely just a petulant

[Jingo]

Of course he did

[SpaceJam2]

his peak was last year. Good chance at finals appearance if healthy

First bad take I've seen from you, gotta admit you're usually very fair, don't troll, and unbiased.

[DoctorP]

kyries pretty much the same player

[SpaceJam2]

Kyrie will be in the hall because of GOAT leadership that elevated him. Without Bron he'd be another Kemba Walker.

I'm sure by now even the foreigners streaming this year's playoffs have seen the 2nd round (Boston v Milwaukee) and saw how Kyrie fared on a stacked team without GOAT leadership.

Will we ever see another GOAT leadership peak like we did with 2016 Kyrie?

I keep hearing how people cant succeed under Bron Ball and in the same breathe praise Kyrie for going on a tear under Bron Ball. Which is it?

Called it