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Gus Hemmingway
05-19-2019, 06:03 AM
???

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 06:09 AM
They have only lost 1 series in 5 years so my first guess is to look at the only series they lost (EASTERN team) because they decimated Western teams 5 years in a row now.

Lemme Google and I'll share what I find

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 06:13 AM
I Googled it and it doesn't even seem possible but it said the only way you can beat the goat 73 win stacked team is:

-star player must be GOAT tier offense and defense
-star player MUST be able to elevate backdoor sweep 22 ppg on 38% player to his peak
-star player must lead all players in the series in all statistical categories
-star player must have a game winning block and game-winning free throw and be the only player to score a point for either team in the last 50 seconds of the game

It sounds like a ridiculous amount of work. But do you think anyone could do this?

Im so nba'd out
05-19-2019, 06:24 AM
???
idk but whoever it is....the brotha must be packin'








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ArbitraryWater
05-19-2019, 07:15 AM
LeBron is the only one

Gave em nightmares 2015, 2016, 2018


:bowdown:

Walk on Water
05-19-2019, 07:45 AM
LeBron is the only one

Gave em nightmares 2015, 2016, 2018


:bowdown:


You realize he got swept in 2018?

Spurs m8
05-19-2019, 07:47 AM
Is op talking about the player that won only ONE game in the last 2 series he played against them?

I would not want that player tbh

Ghost1
05-19-2019, 07:51 AM
2016 Steph Curry

hold this L
05-19-2019, 08:59 AM
So far it's Lebron only. Lets see if Giannis is good enough.

DMAVS41
05-19-2019, 09:12 AM
Lebron and Giannis.

Bronbron23
05-19-2019, 09:12 AM
???
Your bout to find out in the finals as long as kd dosnt come back

tontoz
05-19-2019, 09:22 AM
Hakeem, who can punish them inside for playing small but also has the mobility to play D on the perimeter. DRob would work too.

Big164
05-19-2019, 09:26 AM
Kyrie is the only man to do it.

The only being on this planet with superior ball handling skills than steph.

Elosha
05-19-2019, 09:42 AM
Don't think this thread is seeking real answers just mindless trolling. Nevertheless, it's a legit question regardless of the OP's motive.

Honestly, Shaq and Kobe's championship teams would give the Warriors fits. No team in history is prepared to deal with a force like Shaq, but he would decimate GS (and practically any team in today's era) because of their relentless focus on outside shooting and incredibly soft interior play. He'd treat Green like a child and anyone else they throw at him.

Lakers would try to slow down the game a bit and let Shaq destroy them in the half court. Also, no one on Golden State could consistently guard a young Kobe from 2001-2002, although Klay and Durant would take turns and might limit him somewhat. On defense, I think a young Kobe would have the quickness and drive to really make life difficult for Curry, and Ron Harper was a wily defender who was still tough enough to make Klay work really hard. The key is having a pitbull defense and mentality that could slow down GS's beautiful passing game and movement without the ball. Lakers are one of the few teams in history that have the potential to do that. Plus, Lakers had some intangibles during their run, such as tremendously clutch players like Horry (and also sometimes Fisher).

Of course, Golden State has strengths to exploit too, and Durant is the X-factor. No one in history can truly guard him when he's on, he's just too tall and quick. Nightmare match up. And Curry, Klay, and Green are all All-Stars. If Curry has it going full blast along with Durant, they might overwhelm the Lakers. But I think the Lakers defense would be too good to let that happen.

Of course, it depends on the rules of the game too. Early 00's rules are more tailored to the Lakers, today's rules, more for GS. I think it would be a 7 game series. Both teams with all time greats, intangibles, and an enormous amount of pride.

I can think of other teams and players that could give GS all they could handle, but the Lakers are the most recent team that could really take it to GS in my opinion.

Elosha
05-19-2019, 09:42 AM
We all tend to get caught in prisoner of the moment mentality. GS is one of the greatest teams of all time, and certainly could be argued as the very best. But numerous other teams could claim that mantle as well, and there's always arguments pro and con.

LostCause
05-19-2019, 10:08 AM
You realize he got swept in 2018?

Lmao

His stat line gave em nightmares. Not actually winning

paksat
05-19-2019, 11:33 AM
kyrie irving

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 11:48 AM
I Googled it and it doesn't even seem possible but it said the only way you can beat the goat 73 win stacked team is:

-star player must be GOAT tier offense and defense
-star player MUST be able to elevate backdoor sweep 22 ppg on 38% player to his peak
-star player must lead all players in the series in all statistical categories
-star player must have a game winning block and game-winning free throw and be the only player to score a point for either team in the last 50 seconds of the game

It sounds like a ridiculous amount of work. But do you think anyone could do this?

Anyone at all?

Manny98
05-19-2019, 11:48 AM
You realize he got swept in 2018?
https://i.postimg.cc/0y9bRSSy/Screenshot-20190519-164301.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/L4fXJDBs/lebron-grab.jpg

Let's not forget how he was playing with one eye that series

https://i.postimg.cc/3N9zkzt6/Dezp-Ahi-U0-AADshp.jpg

So it doesn't count :no:

LostCause
05-19-2019, 12:01 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/0y9bRSSy/Screenshot-20190519-164301.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/L4fXJDBs/lebron-grab.jpg

Let's not forget how he was playing with one eye that series

https://i.postimg.cc/3N9zkzt6/Dezp-Ahi-U0-AADshp.jpg

So it doesn't count :no:

Slippery slope. If that doesn

Manny98
05-19-2019, 12:17 PM
From Steve Kerr's own mouth


.Kerr dismissed a Yahoo! Sports report that quoted a non-Warriors source as saying Curry is playing at 70 percent. "Is that 'sources with knowledge of the team's thinking?' " Kerr asked Wednesday afternoon. "Nobody has said anything about Steph being 70 percent to me. Training staff, relatives, friends, sources with knowledge of the team's thinking -- nobody has told me he's 70 percent. Evidently they told the media but not me."

"I know he's not injured -- if he were injured, he would not be playing," Kerr said. "Is he bothered a little bit, perhaps by the layoff when he went three weeks without a game? He may not be quite where he needs to be, but it's not an injury, and that's the important thing."


"He's not injured," Kerr said. "He's coming back from the knee, but he's not injured. He just had a lousy night. It happens, even to the best players in the world

Curry himself told reporters that his knee was fine


.There isn't any surgery or anything in my future this summer. I need to get healthier, but there is no excuses for what happened on the floor," Curry said. "I was out there, ready to play. I had some good games, I had some bad games. And that's it. I'll come back stronger next season and be ready to go.


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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-19-2019, 12:59 PM
He isn't a player.

More of a swindler if you ask me.

He goes by 'Mr. Silver' - and with him came the stimulus package. Or what you peons know as the suspension.

Who got next is the REAL question.

LAmbruh
05-19-2019, 01:01 PM
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DocSlam
05-19-2019, 01:43 PM
You need skilled shooters, but you also need a couple of role players that will
hit someone in the mouth or dive on the floor or dominate the boards..
Hustle players. Marcus Smart and Montrez Harrell come to mind.

3ball
05-19-2019, 01:45 PM
Better 3-point shooters

That's it

Or maybe their best players will be suspended and I jured again.. :confusedshrug:

elementally morale
05-19-2019, 01:45 PM
Shaq.
Hakeem + Nash
Jordan + Robinson
Kobe + Worthy + Mutombo

3ball
05-19-2019, 01:47 PM
Shaq.
Hakeem + Nash
Jordan + Robinson
Kobe + Worthy + Mutombo
It's sad because every guy you listed are superior basketball players to curry and Klay

But if we're giving these kids an extra point on their shots, than literally ANYONE can be better than Kareem, if they shoot threes well enough.. it's sad..

Today's game is a 3-pt contest, which isn't basketball

ArbitraryWater
05-19-2019, 01:56 PM
You realize he got swept in 2018?

i adjusted for officiating altering the outcome

LostCause
05-19-2019, 03:58 PM
From Steve Kerr's own mouth



Curry himself told reporters that his knee was fine




https://i.postimg.cc/fWP0SCPt/T0c4qYq.gif
Curry
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-stephen-curry-on-the-finals-i-wasnt-100-percent-but-who-cares/amp/

Kerr
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/kerr-admits-currys-injuries-forced-few-adjustments-finals

These statements come AFTER the series, just like yours with LeBron

talkingconch
05-19-2019, 04:01 PM
You need a dominant center and reliable 3pt shooters.

ImKobe
05-19-2019, 04:02 PM
You need Kyrie Irving, or a player of his kind, who's willing to take over games late in the 4th.

SouBeachTalents
05-19-2019, 04:03 PM
It's sad because every guy you listed are superior basketball players to curry and Klay

But if we're giving these kids an extra point on their shots, than literally ANYONE can be better than Kareem, if they shoot threes well enough.. it's sad..

Today's game is a 3-pt contest, which isn't basketball
Worthy & Mutombo are superior players to Curry :lol

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 04:07 PM
Goat thangz

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8b/d8/1a/8bd81a50eb70b4f479f5a77d891c133d.jpg

There's a reason they've only lost 1 playoff series in 5 years...

We saw what it took:

Lead everyone in everything

Elevate a 2nd round chucker to elite status

GOAT leadership

Highest Finals game score all time

Highest back-to-back Finals game score all time

Highest 3-game stretch in finals history among all game scores

3ball
05-19-2019, 04:11 PM
Worthy & Mutombo are superior players to Curry :lol


Easily in the pre-2014 era - before the 3-pt strategy of this era opened up the scoring and caused record league ORtg for 3 straight years

Before that, curry was a 18 ppg player

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 04:14 PM
Easily in the pre-2014 era - before the 3-pt strategy of this era opened up the scoring and caused record league ORtg for 3 straight years

Before that, curry was a 18 ppg player

1 and 9 just wont cut it :(

bigkingsfan
05-19-2019, 04:19 PM
Easily in the pre-2014 era - before the 3-pt strategy of this era opened up the scoring and caused record league ORtg for 3 straight years

Before that, curry was a 18 ppg player
He average 23 in 2013...

ImKobe
05-19-2019, 04:31 PM
Easily in the pre-2014 era - before the 3-pt strategy of this era opened up the scoring and caused record league ORtg for 3 straight years

Before that, curry was a 18 ppg player

Curry made the jump in 2013. His 3PA went from 4.7 to 7.7 and the percentage stayed almost identical (from 45.5 to 45.3). He was already a 23 ppg scorer.

3ball
05-19-2019, 05:44 PM
Curry made the jump in 2013. His 3PA went from 4.7 to 7.7 and the percentage stayed almost identical (from 45.5 to 45.3). He was already a 23 ppg scorer.

Curry was never above 18 ppg until he increased his 3-pt attempts to a modern level:



4.7 attempts in 2011 = 18 ppg

(injured in 2012)

7.7 attempts in 2013 = 23 PPG

11.2 attempts in 2016 = 30 PPG


See the trend???.. :confusedshrug:

Only after the Spurs introduced the current 3-pt strategy in 13-14' did curry's threes increase along with his scoring - the current 3-pt era is boosting his stats

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 05:47 PM
Curry was never above 18 ppg until he increased his 3-pt attempts to a modern level:



4.7 attempts in 2011 = 18 ppg

(injured in 2012)

7.7 attempts in 2013 = 23 PPG

11.2 attempts in 2016 = 30 PPG


See the trend???.. :confusedshrug:

Only after the Spurs introduced the current 3-pt strategy in 13-14' did curry's threes increase along with his scoring - the current 3-pt era is boosting his stats


:roll: :roll:

3ball
05-19-2019, 05:48 PM
:roll: :roll:
:confusedshrug:

Facts gonna facts

Losers who can't concede must deflect

So carry on... :applause: .. :rockon:

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 05:53 PM
:confusedshrug:

Facts gonna facts

Losers who can't concede must deflect

So carry on... :applause: .. :rockon:

3troll :facepalm

AirFederer
05-19-2019, 05:57 PM
You need a player who

ballinhun8
05-19-2019, 06:38 PM
First name Adam.



Last name Silver.

LeCola
05-19-2019, 06:58 PM
As a player:

A prime duncan, who can defend both Curry and Durant and dominate paint on offense against Green-Durant duo.

As a team:

1-) Able to switch after all on ball and off ball screens.

2-) Play for drawing fouls on Curry.

3-) Provoke Green and eject him

Walk on Water
05-19-2019, 07:04 PM
I Googled it and it doesn't even seem possible but it said the only way you can beat the goat 73 win stacked team is:

-star player must be GOAT tier offense and defense
-star player MUST be able to elevate backdoor sweep 22 ppg on 38% player to his peak
-star player must lead all players in the series in all statistical categories
-star player must have a game winning block and game-winning free throw and be the only player to score a point for either team in the last 50 seconds of the game

It sounds like a ridiculous amount of work. But do you think anyone could do this?


You're giving him credit for making 1 out of 2 free throws?

Gus Hemmingway
05-19-2019, 07:04 PM
As a player:

A prime duncan, who can defend both Curry and Durant and dominate paint on offense against Green-Durant duo.

As a team:

1-) Able to switch after all on ball and off ball screens.

2-) Play for drawing fouls on Curry.

3-) Provoke Green and eject him



Or just have LeBron James

SpaceJam2
05-19-2019, 07:07 PM
You're giving him credit for making 1 out of 2 free throws?

I give credit to everyone that scored in the last 50 seconds of the biggest game 7 in NBA finals history.

Who else scored in the last 50 seconds so we can give credit to them as well?

Cleverness
05-19-2019, 08:24 PM
Only way to beat Curry is to injure/suspend his team

He's undefeated in playoff series where he and his team are at full strength

Can you say that about any other MVP? :eek:

NBASTATMAN
05-19-2019, 10:56 PM
west is weak.. IMO either EAST team can beat them.. Def going to be a dog fight...

The west plays a soft style of bball so Curry and co. are just too skilled to be beat at that type of game.. The Eastern teams will beat them up and that will help them compete IMO...

LETS GO EAST.. :applause:

SpaceJam2
05-20-2019, 02:11 AM
One thing we know for sure

It's NOT Harden (see: 2018, 2019, etc)

It's NOT Durant (see: 2016)

Gileraracer
05-20-2019, 03:16 AM
I googled it, you need Adam Silver

LeCola
05-20-2019, 06:09 AM
Or just have LeBron James

For what, losing 3 Finals against them?

RoseCity07
05-20-2019, 06:30 AM
Lebron already beat them in 2016. He utterly destroyed Golden State to the point Draymond had to blow KD in the summer just to make Golden State good again.

Turbo Slayer
05-20-2019, 09:05 AM
ONLY ANSWER





















THANOS with his 5 stones. 'evil laugh''

TheCorporation
05-20-2019, 09:48 AM
For what, losing 3 Finals against them?

They have lost once in 5 years

So...Think

West teams are what, 0-20 in playoff series against them :lol

I'll take Bron's 1-3 vs 0-20