GSW is #1 due to the best 3-pt shooters - don't act like they're the best ballplayers

[3ball]

How does the goat shooter get open for 80% (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13681661&postcount=41) of his threes?.. he's just a system player; so is Klay - they benefit from today's spacing strategy where 89% (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466527) of threes are "open" or "wide open", according to NBA.com...

And the team with the best 3-point shooters wins, which is golden state.. :confusedshrug:

Again, he's just a system player whose great 3-point prowess benefits from the current NBA format.. he's not actually a great baller.. take away the 3-pt line and he wouldn't make the NBA - he was barely a prospect at all until 3-pointers became popular - facts.. #davidsonstar
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[Shogon]

Is the three point shot part of an NBA basketball game?

Oh, what's that? It is? Oh, ok. So it's not irrelevant. They're the best basketball team when healthy. If a player could shoot 100% on dunks only, and 0% from everywhere else, and he was able to put himself in position to get dunks 95% of the time or some other ridiculously high number, he would be the best player in basketball. "How" someone achieves this is entirely different from the end result. The end result is all that matters.

As far as how Curry gets open, it's like you don't watch any of the games. He gets open because he doesn't stop moving and he knows how to get open and he knows how to use screens and his release is probably the quickest in NBA history.

They might just win it all even if they're not healthy, but they'll only lose to another wonderful three point shooting team.

Your troll account is so, so bad, and I feel sorry for the people that take you seriously.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Your takeaway from GS winning without Durant...is this?

I get what you're saying but peeps who appreciate good basketball? They fukk with the KD-less Warrior team.

Live in the moment for a bit. Appreciate what we're seeing NOW - the GOAT shooting backcourt.

[hold this L]

Your takeaway from GS winning without Durant...is this?

I get what you're saying but peeps who appreciate good basketball? They fukk with the KD-less Warrior team.

Live in the moment for a bit. Be appreciative for what we are seeing NOW - the GOAT shooting backcourt.
He doesn't watch basketball. This is some idiot that stopped watching in the 2000s but still comes to talk in a website about basketball for what they're doing in this generation. If there was ever a good example of somebody with no life and nothing to do, it would be 2ball.

[Shogon]

He doesn't watch basketball. This is some idiot that stopped watching in the 2000s but still comes to talk in a website about basketball for what they're doing in this generation. If there was ever a good example of somebody with no life and nothing to do, it would be 2ball.

He does watch basketball. It's not who you think it is.

It's a troll account. Who the main is? Or was? I don't know. But it's a gimmick.

[tpols]

The 3pt line has existed for all of the modern era...

So this innovation cant be anything other than marveled at.

Plus we know Curry is a better off ball route runner than Jordan, and his teams play with better teamwork than Jordan's did.

GOAT shit.

[3ball]

Live in the moment for a bit. Appreciate what we're seeing NOW - the GOAT shooting backcourt.


They're nowhere near the goat backcourt - anyone who thinks that is overvaluing the ability to make open threes

the NBA has settled on spacing strategy that allows 89% of threes to be open or wide open - how can you respect that format and skillset?.. :biggums:

It's not basketball.. it just isn't.. stand-still open shots aren't basketball, or omits most of basketball

[hold this L]

He does watch basketball. It's not who you think it is.

It's a troll account. Who the main is? Or was? I don't know. But it's a gimmick.
Is anyone not an alt in this website? Jesus Christ... :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

They're nowhere near the goat backcourt - anyone who thinks that is overvaluing the ability to make open threes

the NBA has settled on spacing strategy that allows 89% of threes to be open or wide open - how can you respect that format and skillset?.. :biggums:

It's not basketball.. it just isn't.. stand-still open shots aren't basketball, or omits most of basketball

Shooting backcourt.

But its becoming apparent you really don't like basketball.

"Not Basketball"? I'm on your side with regards to Jordan. Right now you sound goofy as **** though.

[3ball]

The 3pt line has existed for all of the modern era...

So this innovation cant be anything other than marveled at.

Plus we know Curry is a better off ball route runner than Jordan, and his teams play with better teamwork than Jordan's did.

GOAT shit.
if previous eras had figured out today's spacing strategy and shot mostly threes skillset - then those players would suck too

Today's game is based on open threes, which isn't basketball - 89% of threes are open or wide open

Curry and Klay benefit from that.. plain and simple.. and that's the only reason GSW is #1 - they have the best 3-pt shooters

don't respect anyone that wouldn't make the NBA without the 3-point line.. curry was barely a D1 player until threes got popular

[LAmbruh]

Jeff Hornacek :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Shogon]

It is true Curry would not be an all time great without a three point line. He'd still be good, just not all time great good.

But Klay would be a great NBA player in any era because of his defense.

[Im so nba'd out]

That line about Jordan only dominating the 90's was due to him being the best contested mid range shooter reallly struck a nerve with ya huh Bruce?

ya boy was a product of a weaker era + the triangle

deal with it

[3ball]

Shooting backcourt.

But its becoming apparent you really don't like basketball.

"Not Basketball"? I'm on your side with regards to Jordan. Right now you sound goofy as ****.

Today's game isn't basketball!!!! It's just open threes!!! the smartest guy in today's game agrees with me, not you!!!


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Today's game is literally a 3-pt contest - that..... isn't..... basketball

[Shogon]

It is basketball. Getting open threes is part of the game.

Curry gets open because of his quick release and his constant movement and ability to utilize screens. He could do that on literally any team.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Three's have been a part of the game, for what, 40 years now?

Time to get over it.

[tpols]

if previous eras had figured out today's spacing strategy and shot mostly threes skillset - then those players would suck too

Today's game is based on open threes, which isn't basketball - 89% of threes are open or wide open

Curry and Klay benefit from that.. plain and simple.. and that's the only reason GSW is #1 - they have the best 3-pt shooters

don't respect anyone that wouldn't make the NBA without the 3-point line.. curry was barely a D1 player until threes got popular


you're having a meltdown because the Warriors are showing off team basketball at its best ever.

you said before they are only making "stand still" threes, but fact is klay and curry work harder to get open off ball than anybody perhaps to ever play the game.

Of course Jordans shots werent as open he mostly operated in a 15-20 foot radius around the rim. Dingo and klay double that defensive coverage zone and simultaneously run routes that leave the defense scrambled.

Dominance without the ball... blows your mind mate. :bowdown:

[3ball]

Getting open threes is part of the game.



It can't be the only thing that drives winning though, and that's what happened - the smartest guy in basketball agrees with me, not you:


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Today's game is literally a 3-pt contest.. that..... isn't..... basketball

[3ball]

you're having a meltdown because the Warriors are showing off team basketball at its best ever.

you said before they are only making "stand still" threes, but fact is klay and curry work harder to get open off ball than anybody perhaps to ever play the game.

Of course Jordans shots werent as open he mostly operated in a 15-20 foot radius around the rim. Dingo and klay double that defensive coverage zone and simultaneously run routes that leave the defense scrambled.

Dominance without the ball... blows your mind mate. :bowdown:
It's stand-still, open threes mate... So not basketball

Facts..

Who cares how hard they work to get open - all scorers work hard to get open - Reggie Miller busted his ass to get open, mj too (https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-18-2019/dyQEhZ.gif) - so who cares - getting open is a miniscule aspect of the game

[Shogon]

:roll:

Never change, 3ball, never change.

[Im so nba'd out]

[I][SIZE="3"]Today's game is literally a 3-pt contest - that..... isn't..... basketball
but shooting contested post fadeaways half the game and playing jail ball on defense where you're allowed to chuck people dribbling is?

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poor poor bruce

[3ball]

but shooting contested post fadeaways half the game and playing jail ball on defense where you're allowed to chuck people dribbling is?

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poor poor bruce
2-pointers are scored in infinite ways, while 3-pointers are much more limited - mostly stand-still open shots in a designated area of the floor.. :confusedshrug:

[scuzzy]

but shooting contested post fadeaways half the game and playing jail ball on defense where you're allowed to chuck people dribbling is?

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poor poor bruce
muh precious mid-range :lol

[3ball]

:roll:

Never change, 3ball, never change.
Never stop acting, beta, never stop

3-point contests aren't basketball no matter how much you pretend that they are

But I guess people will always like and defend the cute kid... :facepalm...

Threes are played-out to knowledgeable fans... . Even his wife is tired if his act

[tpols]

It's stand-still, open threes mate... So not basketball

Facts..

Who cares how hard they work to get open - all scorers work hard to get open - Reggie Miller busted his ass to get open, mj too (https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-18-2019/dyQEhZ.gif) - so who cares - getting open is a miniscule aspect of the game


:roll:

youre embarrasing yourself bro...

It'd be like saying julian edelman catches stand still open passes from tom brady... or randy moss used to catch stand still bombs.

:lol :facepalm

[elementally morale]

Curry is pretty much the best ball player.

[3ball]

:roll:

youre embarrasing yourself bro...

It'd be like saying julian edelman catches stand still open passes from tom brady... or randy moss used to catch stand still bombs.

:lol :facepalm
Most three-point attempts are stand-still jumpers... Catch-and-shoots... Facts...

I can clutter the thread with NBA.com screenshots to prove this, but I shouldn't have to

[tpols]

Most three-point attempts are stand-still jumpers... Catch-and-shoots... Facts...

I can clutter the thread with NBA.com screenshots to prove this, but I shouldn't have to


No they arent...

Rockets role players shoot stand still open 3s... pj tucker, trevor ariza, gerald green etc. sitting waiting around for a pass.

Klay and Curry very very frequently... like 95% of the time are catching and shooting on the move.

You have nooo idea what youre talking about.

[Big164]

Rockets shot more 3

[TheMan]

That line about Jordan only dominating the 90's was due to him being the best contested mid range shooter reallly struck a nerve with ya huh Bruce?

ya boy was a product of a weaker era + the triangle

deal with it
Triggered

WTF does Jordan have to do with this thread?

[tpols]

And the team with the best 3-point shooters wins, which is golden state.. :confusedshrug:
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Rockets shot more 3’s made more 3’s, at better efficency than GoldenState but STILL LOST!!


Rockets 259 attempts on 36.7% = 95 Total

Warriors 199 attempts on 34.7% = 69 Total


You are just wrong.


true ether.

Portland also made double the 3's in game 2, 18 to 9, and they lost.

[3ball]

No they arent...

Rockets role players shoot stand still open 3s... pj tucker, trevor ariza, gerald green etc. sitting waiting around for a pass.

Klay and Curry very very frequently... like 95% of the time are catching and shooting on the move.

You have nooo idea what youre talking about.
You have to be stationary to shoot a catch-and-shoot..:hammerhead:

You're just making up your own facts because you're infatuated with Curry and 3-pointers..

But 3-pt contests aren't basketball. The former Davidson star wouldn't be a prospect without threes.. :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

true ether.

Portland also made double the 3's in game 2, 18 to 9, and they lost.
I said the team with the best 3-point shooters wins the ring, and that's golden state

No team wins every time they win the 3-pt battle..

but 3-pointers is the biggest factor in winning today's game, which is a shame.. Ask Popovich - he agrees with me, and thinks ur ignorant on this topic

[tontoz]

Houston made 3 more 3s per game than the Warriors during the regular season and the playoffs.

[tpols]

You have to be stationary to shoot a catch-and-shoot..:hammerhead:


No you dont mate...

Thats like saying a QB cant throw on the move... dumb.

These guys enter their shooting motion before they catch the ball often times.

Its basketball evolution.

[3ball]

Houston made 3 more 3s per game than the Warriors during the regular season and the playoffs.

GSW has the best 3-pt shooters, so they benefit the most from the 3-pt line...:confusedshrug:..

the threat of threes opens everything up for them


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^^^ that's popovich agreeing with the thread

[3ball]

No you dont mate...

Thats like saying a QB cant throw on the move... dumb.

These guys enter their shooting motion before they catch the ball often times.

Its basketball evolution.
No, catch-and-shoot are stationary shots

Again, your infatuation with curry and dumb threes is making you say dumb stuff

[tontoz]

GSW has the best 3-pt shooters, so they benefit the most from the 3-pt line...:confusedshrug:..

the threat of threes opens everything up for them


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^^^ that's popovich agreeing with the thread


I dont see Pop mentioning Houston or GS. I do see you acting like an idiot however. Or maybe it isn't actiing.

Last game GS scored only 24 from 3s. Portland actually scored 33 pts on 3s, with a better %. so they should have won the game according to Pops quote, right?

[Big164]

If Jumping wasnt allowed in the nba, mj wouldve never been a star. Imagine if he wasnt allowed to float above defenders on every shot?

Leaping is Not Basketball! Curse Jordan for using his natural strengths to his advantage!!!

[tontoz]

The funny thing is that foul shooting is really cost the Blazers in game 3. They got to the foul line 10 more times but GS scored 3 more points from the line.

[3ball]

I dont see Pop mentioning Houston or GS. I do see you acting like an idiot however. Or maybe it isn't actiing.

Last game GS scored only 24 from 3s. Portland actually scored 33 pts on 3s, with a better %. so they should have won the game, right?
Finding an exception to the rule only proves the rule

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Accept the facts bruh - you guys sound like girls trying to defend the indefensible - today's game is a 3-pt contest.. simple facts

[tontoz]

Finding an exception to the rule only proves the rule

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players


It isn't the exception to the rule though. Houston takes and makes more 3s than GS but GS beats them every time.

GS got 27 points from their bench last game with only 1 made 3 pointer.

[3ball]

It isn't the exception to the rule though. Houston takes and makes more 3s than GS but GS beats them every time.

GS got 27 points from their bench last game with only 1 made 3 pointer.
GSW has better 3-pt shooters - the threat of the best 3-pt shooters in the league drives their offense and opens things up for them

But Houston also lost because they play a shit brand where one guy holds the ball for 10 minutes a game, literally... and they're last in team assists

So there's always exceptions, but the rule is clear:

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players
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[winwin]

3ball
Curry is not that great?
is this your point?

[3ball]

Curry is not that great?
is this your point?
Today's game is a 3-pt shooting contest - the team with the best 3-pt shooters will be #1

So my point is that GSW is #1 because they have the best 3-point shooters, not the best basketball players

Curry is just a system player that is lucky his 3-pt prowess happens to coincide with a 3-pt contest league..

without the 3-pt line, the former Davidson star wouldn't be a prospect, let alone an NBA player.. he only became a prospect when the 3-pt shot became popular

[tontoz]

Houston loses because they play a shit brand where one guy holds the ball for 10 minutes a game, literally... and they're last in team assists

So there's always exceptions, but the rule is clear:

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players


But that doesn't fit with Pops quote. If his quote was accurate then you wouldn't have to keep coming up with excuses.

Only 24 of their 110 points came from 3s last game and they still won.

Curry and Klay actually move without the ball. If they pass the ball, they immediately start running trying to get open.

Who else on their team is a threat from 3?

Iggy 33%
Green 28.5%
Bogut :lol
Looney :lol
Livingston :lol
Bell :lol

Those are the guys playing the most minutes.

[3ball]

But that doesn't fit with Pops quote. If his quote was accurate then you wouldn't have to keep coming up with excuses.

Only 24 of their 110 points came from 3s last game and they still won.

Curry and Klay actually move without the ball. If they pass the ball, they immediately start running trying to get open.

Who else on their team is a threat from 3?

Iggy 33%
Green 28.5%
Bogut :lol
Looney :lol
Livingston :lol
Bell :lol

Those are the guys playing the most minutes.
GSW has the best 3-pt shooters ever (curry/klay) - the threat of the best 3-pt shooters drives their offense and opens up OTHER things for them

So Houston lost by having to defend the Warriors' goat three-point threats, and gave up other stuff as a result

But in addition to giving up things to defend GSW's threes, Houston also lost because they play a shit brand where one guy holds the ball for 10 minutes a game, literally... and they're last in team assists

So there's always exceptions, but the rule is clear:

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

[tpols]

But that doesn't fit with Pops quote. If his quote was accurate then you wouldn't have to keep coming up with excuses.

Only 24 of their 110 points came from 3s last game and they still won.

Curry and Klay actually move without the ball. If they pass the ball, they immediately start running trying to get open.

Who else on their team is a threat from 3?

Iggy 33%
Green 28.5%
Bogut :lol
Looney :lol
Livingston :lol
Bell :lol

Those are the guys playing the most minutes.


Amazing.

This thread should open peoples eyes...

This team is an awful, awful shooting team outside of Chef and klay.

Horrible.

And every team they have beaten.. has made MORE 3's than they have.

:wtf:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Even if the Warriors spammed threes (they dont - and compared to the Rockets they sure as hell DONT) at least they have the personnel who can shoot.

Other teams trying to BE THEM? That's the problem.

The 3PT shot has been around since 19-fukking-80. Hating on Golden State simply because they're better at shooting them...is pure idiocy.

[sd3035]

Curry, Wilt, and Shaq

Most impactful players of all time

[3ball]

Even if the Warriors spammed threes (they dont - and compared to the Rockets they sure as hell DONT) at least they have the personnel who can shoot.

Other teams trying to BE THEM? That's the problem. The 3PT shot has been around since 19-fukking-80.

Hating on Golden State simply because they're better at shooting threes...is pure idiocy.


If their 3-pt prowess is the only reason they're the best, then it isn't "hate" because they aren't actually great at basketball, only threes

And that's Popovich's and my point - today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

[bigkingsfan]

The team that scores more point will win.

[Walk on Water]

But what if there was no such thing as a home run in baseball?

[tontoz]

GSW has the best 3-pt shooters ever (curry/klay) - the threat of the best 3-pt shooters drives their offense and opens up OTHER things for them

So Houston lost by having to defend the Warriors' goat three-point threats, and gave up other stuff as a result

But in addition to giving up things to defend GSW's threes, Houston also lost because they play a shit brand where one guy holds the ball for 10 minutes a game, literally... and they're last in team assists

So there's always exceptions, but the rule is clear:

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players


The fact that Klay/Steph move without the ball is what puts pressure on the defense. If they were just stationary spot up shooters then GS would be sitting at home.

Most of their current roster sucks at 3s or doesn't take them at all.

You are just a desperate Jordan ******ger desperately trying to discredit a dynasty.

'3 point shooting is all that matters.... as long as they don't play iso ball....as long as they are all time greats moving without the ball.... as long as it's a full moon on Tuesday....'







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[NBAGOAT]

If their 3-pt prowess is the only reason they're the best, then it isn't "hate" because they aren't actually great at basketball, only threes

And that's Popovich's and my point - today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Curry and klay are very good at other parts of the game. Klay plays stout defense and has a very nice post and pull up midrange game. Curry is a fantastic passer(easily above average among great volume scorers) and has great touch around the rim with finishes and floaters. You

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

If their 3-pt prowess is the only reason they're the best, then it isn't "hate" because they aren't actually great at basketball, only threes

And that's Popovich's and my point - today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Its been around since before you started watching basketball, so who cares?

Your premise is dumb and all you're doing here is throwing shade. Plain and simple.

[winwin]

Today's game is a 3-pt shooting contest - the team with the best 3-pt shooters will be #1

So my point is that GSW is #1 because they have the best 3-point shooters, not the best basketball players

Curry is just a system player that is lucky his 3-pt prowess happens to coincide with a 3-pt contest league..

without the 3-pt line, the former Davidson star wouldn't be a prospect, let alone an NBA player.. he only became a prospect when the 3-pt shot became popular
Curry is just a system player. i agree.
every great system needs great players /bulls/lakeshow/spurs.. you agree?

you think curry is not great. i respect that and im sure one day (soon) you'll change your mind

[3ball]

The fact that Klay/Steph move without the ball is what puts pressure on the defense.

If they were just stationary spot up shooters then GS would be sitting at home.


Exactly - defending their goat 3-point threat opens up other things in the Warriors' offense

It seems like we agree

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Btw, this isn't my opinion.. it's Popovich's





If they were just stationary spot up shooters then GS would be sitting at home.


When a player runs off screens, they have to stop to catch-and-shoot the ball

Catch-and-shoots are stationary shots (usually after a lot of movement off screens)

[tontoz]

For the record Curry is 86-91 from the foul line in the playoffs (94.5%) but those points don't really count.

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

Curry is just a system player. i agree.

every great system needs great players /bulls/lakeshow/spurs.. you agree?

you think curry is not great. i respect that and im sure one day (soon) you'll change your mind
MJ dropped 37 a game without a system

He wasn't a system player but was skilled enough to fit goat scoring levels into a system so teammates could play to capacity

Curry's situation is different - he's lucky his 3-pt prowess happened to coincide with a 3-pt contest league..

without the 3-pt line, the former Davidson star wouldn't be a prospect, let alone an NBA player.. he only became a prospect when the 3-pt shot became popular

[tontoz]

Exactly - defending their goat 3-point threat opens up other things in the Warriors' offense

It seems like we agree

Today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Btw, this isn't my opinion.. it's Popovich's



When a player runs off screens, they have to stop to catch-and-shoot the ball

Catch-and-shoots are stationary shots (usually after a lot of movement off screens)


If todays game was a 3 point contest then the Rockets would be the current dynasty. They have the most 3 point shooters and make the most 3s. Most of the players on GS can't shoot 3s at all.

The Spurs and Clippers both shot a better % from 3 than GS during the regular season. Where are they now?

[Big164]

If their 3-pt prowess is the only reason they're the best, then it isn't "hate" because they aren't actually great at basketball, only threes

And that's Popovich's and my point - today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players
Other teams may have faster, bigger athletes, but not better basketball players. Shooting is basketball, Its basketball in its Purest form.

Jumping really high, running fast and having big hands is something you can do in any sport.

[3ball]

If todays game was a 3 point contest then the Rockets would be the current dynasty. They have the most 3 point shooters and make the most 3s. Most of the players on GS can't shoot 3s at all.

The Spurs and Clippers both shot a better % from 3 than GS during the regular season. Where are they now?


Nah, they don't have the best 3-point shooters that you have to defend tightly like curry/klay

defending the Warriors' goat 3-point threats opens up other things in the Warriors' offense

Ultimately, today's game is a 3-pt contest where the best 3-pt shooters will win - that's the Warriors, even though other teams have better actual basketball players

And again, ur arguing against popovich - the 3-pt contest is his opinion of today's game (and mine, among many others)

[tontoz]

Houston's 3 point shooters who averaged at least 1 made 3 per game shooting at least 35%.

Harden
Paul
Gordon
Tucker
Ennis
Paul
Green
House

Current GS 3 point shooters who meet the same criteria:

Steph
Klay
Cook

[winwin]

MJ dropped 37 a game without a system

He wasn't a system player but was skilled enough to fit goat scoring levels into a system so teammates could play to capacity

Curry's situation is different - he's lucky his 3-pt prowess happened to coincide with a 3-pt contest league..

without the 3-pt line, the former Davidson star wouldn't be a prospect, let alone an NBA player.. he only became a prospect when the 3-pt shot became popular
hey hey stop. why did you take a huge jump?

let me explain something, i have no agenda, my english is limited i don't read paragraphs. only simple English straight to the point.

i asked you a general yes/no qustion...and you jumped to MJ WTF?

again: every great system needs great players. you agree?

[Uncle Drew]

This thread is just wonderful. 3ball is breaking down right before our eyes.

[StrongLurk]

Amazing meltdown :roll:

I gave this thread 5 stars because it's a great meltdown.

[3ball]

hey hey stop. why did you take a huge jump?

let me explain something, i have no agenda, my english is limited i don't read paragraphs. only simple English straight to the point.

i asked you a general yes/no qustion...and you jumped to MJ WTF?

again: every great system needs great players. you agree?


no, a great player isn't needed all the time

every system needs a player that is capable of executing it... Does that player need to be great? That depends on what is being asked of the player

In Curry's case, the Warriors achieve a goat offense by having curry hit threes at a goat clip - you guys consider that great - I consider it a function of a flawed game that overvalues 24 footers compared to 23 footers

In MJ's case, the bulls needed him to get scoring champion production within a system.. but no scoring champion ever won the title in the same year - so MJ had to do something unprecedented.. he did it 6 times.. :pimp:.. (edit: Kareem and Shaq were scoring champs and won the title in their peak seasons of 71' and 00')..

[winwin]

You're not giving yourself enough credit - your post is very well-written and more optimal style for posting than mine

Regarding your question - no, a great player isn't needed all the time

every system needs a player that is capable of executing it... Does that player need to be great? That depends on what is being asked of the player

In Curry's case, the Warriors need him to hit threes at a goat clip - you guys consider that great - I consider it a function of a flawed game that overvalues 24 footers compared to 23 footers

In MJ's case, the bulls needed him to get scoring champion production within a system.. but no scoring champion ever won the title in the same year - so MJ had to do something unprecedented.. he did it 6 times.. :pimp:.. (edit: Kareem and Shaq were scoring champs and won the title in their peak seasons of 71' and 00')

ok thanks you for answering
now you say: ''a great player isn't needed all the time
every system needs a player that is capable of executing it''

can you name one great system/Dynasty where a great player isn't needed, and they had just the player that is capable of executing ?

[3ball]

ok thanks you for answering
now you say: ''a great player isn't needed all the time
every system needs a player that is capable of executing it''

can you name one great system/Dynasty where a great player isn't needed, and they had just the player that is capable of executing ?
First you asked whether a great player was needed to execute a system

Now you're asking whether a great player is needed for a system on a dynasty

The answer to the 2nd question is yes - a great player is needed - but I just don't think it's "greatness" to take advantage of a loophole that awards an extra 50% (a whole point more) for a 24-footer vs a 23-footer.. being the best at taking advantage of this loophole isn't "great"

[tontoz]

First you asked whether a great player was needed to execute a system

Now you're asking whether a great player is needed for a system on a dynasty

The answer to the 2nd question is yes - a great player is needed - but I just don't think it's "greatness" to take advantage of a loophole that awards an extra 50% (a whole point more) for a 24-footer vs a 23-footer.. being the best at taking advantage of this loophole isn't "great"


That rule has been in place for 40 years. If you still can't get over that's a you problem.

[SpaceJam2]

Jeff Hornacek :roll: :roll: :roll:

10 ppg ...

10 ppg in the finals as the number two option :lol

Best team Jordan ever faced :lol

[Stephonit]

It's interesting this critique is being brought up right now. If the current series with the Trail Blazers shows anything it isn't that the Warriors are better shooters than the Trail Blazers, what it shows is that the Warriors are terrific basketball players with amazing all-around basketball skills.

Just look at what's on display:

The Curry-Green pick and roll - Does anyone else feel this might become an iconic duo for the pick and roll similar to Stockton-Malone?

Team passing and ball movement that is arguably as good as we've ever seen.

Suffocating defense.

Iguodala putting on a clinic on how to strip a ball.

Who is disappointed in the basketball skills on display? Oh I forgot 3ball doesn't watch games.

[winwin]

First you asked whether a great player was needed to execute a system

Now you're asking whether a great player is needed for a system on a dynasty

The answer to the 2nd question is yes - a great player is needed - but I just don't think it's "greatness" to take advantage of a loophole that awards an extra 50% (a whole point more) for a 24-footer vs a 23-footer.. being the best at taking advantage of this loophole isn't "great"
good :D

now watch this when you have time then we will talk about ''this is not basketball anymore'' by Pop and you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axmul-Xlkc

[sdot_thadon]

Its been around since before you started watching basketball, so who cares?

Your premise is dumb and all you're doing here is throwing shade. Plain and simple.
welcome to every 3ball thread.:lol

Thread making business doesn't seem to be going to well for you lately 3ball, dipping lower and lower each thread next you'll argue today's players have the advantage of a more round ball......any how, as it pertains to one Stephen Curry:

Does he benefit from the 3 era? sure he does.

Does he shoot a ton of open ones? sure he does.

is he a system player? Out of your damn mind.

What Steph is? Steph's a game changer. Point blank period. His range and threat of shooting a confident shot anywhere across half court he may catch it puts constant pressure on defenses in a different way than we've ever seen. Yeah he's a bit on the soft side and he doesn't play defense so well but every great has weaknesses. Steph works almost non stop at times generating and regenerating looks for himself that he doesn't even take at every chance. It's honestly no different than shooters of the past exhausting possessions and hundreds of screens to get looks without the ball. He's just doing it from previously unimaginable places on the floor. The scariest thing about Steph is despite his greatness, he's quite measured and hasn't ever been completely cut loose like we've seen other offensive stars go off script for an entire game. Steph is able to do this within restrictions of team ball. That is why the Warrirors are so great and why Steph hasn't even shown his full potential as an offensive player. And all this as a person who's not much of a fan.

[3ball]

That rule has been in place for 40 years. If you still can't get over that's a you problem.
Curry was an 18 ppg player for 3 years (2010-2012) - but that's because he only attempted 4.7 three-pointers per game

Starting in 2013, his attempts increased to 7.7, along with his ppg to 23... In 2016, his attempts soared to 11.2, along with his ppg to 30

So Curry was nothing until he started shooting a ton of threes, which coincided with the entire LEAGUE adopting new 3-pt strategy - this new strategy was first embraced by Popogoat when he made Lebron tap out (give up) in 2014

Again, I just don't think it's "greatness" to take advantage of a loophole that awards an extra point (50%) for a 24-footer vs a 23-footer..

being the best at taking advantage of this loophole isn't "great" - it's just luck that he came along when it mattered.. if he came along in 1989, he'd be Mahmoud Abdul Rauf

[SpaceJam2]

This thread is just wonderful. 3ball is breaking down right before our eyes.

:lol

6911 points
4 peat
73 wins
eFG%


MJ passed up left and right

[tontoz]

good :D

now watch this when you have time then we will talk about ''this is not basketball anymore'' by Pop and you

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[tontoz]

Curry was an 18 ppg player for 3 years (2010-2012) - but that's because he only attempted 4.7 three-pointers per game

Starting in 2013, his attempts increased to 7.7, along with his ppg to 23... In 2016, his attempts soared to 11.2, along with his ppg to 30



:rolleyes:


Just when i think you cant possibly post anything dumber you manage to surpass yourself.

In 2011/12 Monte Ellis was traded (he took 20 shots per game the previous season) and Steph was unleashed. It isnt that complicated.

Just because you can't get over it after 40 years doesnt make it a loophole. It's a rule.

FYI Mark Price attempted 5 3s a game in 1989/90. I think Steph would have been fine.

[3ball]

It's interesting this critique is being brought up right now. If the current series with the Trail Blazers shows anything it isn't that the Warriors are better shooters than the Trail Blazers, what it shows is that the Warriors are terrific basketball players with amazing all-around basketball skills.

Just look at what's on display:

The Curry-Green pick and roll - Does anyone else feel this might become an iconic duo for the pick and roll similar to Stockton-Malone?

Team passing and ball movement that is arguably as good as we've ever seen.

Suffocating defense.

Iguodala putting on a clinic on how to strip a ball.

Who is disappointed in the basketball skills on display? Oh I forgot 3ball doesn't watch games.
There's levels to this shit

The reason pnr's weren't the staple of offenses back then was because teams didn't have the strategy or practiced shooters to drive-and-kick for 3-pointers like today's game - and drive-and-kick for 2-pointers wasn't worth it (a less efficient/preferable play than posting up)

But Stockton/Malone were SO good at the pnr and had such amazing chemistry that the Jazz were the only team that used pnr as their primary offense... the efficiency of their pnr rivaled today's teams WITHOUT today's primary weapon of kicking out for threes

So don't compare Stockton/Malone pnr to Curry/Dray.. that's laughable... And imagine if Stockton/Malone had today's 3-pt shooting and strategy surrounding them.. :facepalm .. yikes

[Vino24]

3>2

[3ball]

:rolleyes:


Just when i think you cant possibly post anything dumber you manage to surpass yourself.

In 2011/12 Monte Ellis was traded (he took 20 shots per game the previous season) and Steph was unleashed. It isnt that complicated.
Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer

[Vino24]

Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer
Curry

[tontoz]

Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer

:roll:

Curry was only attempting 11.4 shots per game in 2011/12. The following season, after the trade, he took 17.8.

But i am sure the trade had nothing to do with it.

[3ball]

:roll:

Curry was only attempting 11.4 shots per game in 2011/12. The following season, after the trade, he took 17.8.

But i am sure the trade had nothing to do with it.
Ur kind of lying to not lose this argument

Curry was hurt in 2012 and his shot attempts were down

In 2010 and 2011, he attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts

[Vino24]

Ur kind of lying to not lose this argument

Curry was hurt in 2012 and his shot attempts were down

In 2010 and 2011, he attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts
Stfu. You can

[tontoz]

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer


Math is obviously not your strong suit.

Curry made 9.2 shots from the field this season. If we only give him 2 points for those (even though over half of them were 3s) that is 18.4.

He also averaged 3.8 made foul shots per game. 18.4 + 3.8 = 22.2.

But of course 3s do count no matter how much you cry about it.






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[tpols]

Basketball was created to be a team sport of passing, decision making, and technical ability (shooting the ball in the hoop).

only 3ball would say shooting doesnt count.

...looking for harlem globetrotter esque circus more than an exhibition of skill and iq.

[3ball]

Math is obviously not your strong suit.

Curry made 9.2 shots from the field this season. If we only give him 2 points for those (even though over half of them were 3s) that is 18.4.

He also averaged 3.8 made foul shots per game. 18.4 + 3.8 = 22.2.

But of course 3s do count no matter how much you cry about it.






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In 2010 and 2011, Curry was healthy and attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

welcome to every 3ball thread.:lol

Thread making business doesn't seem to be going to well for you lately 3ball, dipping lower and lower each thread next you'll argue today's players have the advantage of a more round ball......any how, as it pertains to one Stephen Curry:

Does he benefit from the 3 era? sure he does.

Does he shoot a ton of open ones? sure he does.

is he a system player? Out of your damn mind.

What Steph is? Steph's a game changer. Point blank period. His range and threat of shooting a confident shot anywhere across half court he may catch it puts constant pressure on defenses in a different way than we've ever seen. Yeah he's a bit on the soft side and he doesn't play defense so well but every great has weaknesses. Steph works almost non stop at times generating and regenerating looks for himself that he doesn't even take at every chance. It's honestly no different than shooters of the past exhausting possessions and hundreds of screens to get looks without the ball. He's just doing it from previously unimaginable places on the floor. The scariest thing about Steph is despite his greatness, he's quite measured and hasn't ever been completely cut loose like we've seen other offensive stars go off script for an entire game. Steph is able to do this within restrictions of team ball. That is why the Warrirors are so great and why Steph hasn't even shown his full potential as an offensive player. And all this as a person who's not much of a fan.

3ball is only one person, but he makes Jordan fans look handicapped.

The guy is sitting here putting an asterisk on a shot...that was used in the Jordan era. Before then even :oldlol:

Good post by the way. You're spot on.

[3ball]

Basketball was created to be a team sport of passing, decision making, and technical ability (shooting the ball in the hoop).

only 3ball would say shooting doesnt count.

...looking for harlem globetrotter esque circus more than an exhibition of skill and iq.



Nah, I just agree with Pop


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Ultimately, the skills and offensive plays needed to obtain stand-still 25 footers (3-pt contest) isn't a high brand of skill, or a sophisticated competitive endeavor

[tontoz]

Nah, I just agree with Pop


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Ultimately, the skills and offensive plays needed to obtain stand-still 25 footers isn't a high brand of skill, or a sophisticated, competitive endeavor


According to Pop, Houston is the current dynasty.

[tpols]

Nah, I just agree with Pop


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Ultimately, the skills and plays needed to obtain stand-still 25 footers isn't a high brand of skill or sophisticated competitive endeavor


spam all you want bro...

Pop said all you have to do is read the stat sheet and 3pt column.

But the teams golden state has beaten have taken and made far more 3's.

by your own popovich quote spam, you're wrong. Youre experiencing an extreme version of cognitive dissonance right now mate.

[3ball]

According to Pop, Houston is the current dynasty.
Only an autistic person would conclude that from what he said

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Only an autistic person would conclude that from what he said

Funny...

Only an "autistic person" would use your argument.

[Uncle Drew]

How many times now has 3ball posted those same images itt, like seven or something? This guy is breaking down.

[tontoz]

Let's look at what Curry is doing against Portland, taking away the extra point for 3s.

11.3 made field goals per game x 2 = 22.6 points from the field

22.6 + 7.3 fts made = 29.9 ppg in the conference finals, without the extra point for 3s.

Not bad for an 18 ppg player. :oldlol:

[tontoz]

Only an autistic person would conclude that from what he said


Houston makes the most 3s and that is all that matters so they are the current dynasty, according to Pop.

[3ball]

spam all you want bro...

Pop said all you have to do is read the stat sheet and 3pt column.

But the teams golden state has beaten have taken and made far more 3's.

by your own popovich quote spam, you're wrong. Youre experiencing an extreme version of cognitive dissonance right now mate.
Call it spam all you want - it's what he said

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball

The Warriors have the best 3-point shooters so defenses have to give up other stuff.... but the team with the best 3-point shooters wins in today's game - that's golden state - even though other teams have better actual basketball players

[3ball]

Houston makes the most 3s and that is all that matters so they are the current dynasty, according to Pop.
The Warriors have the best 3-point shooters so defenses have to give up other stuff.... but the team with the best 3-point shooters wins in today's game - that's golden state - even though other teams have better actual basketball players

[NBAGOAT]

as countless people have said, the 3pt line has been around for 40 years. It's older teams' fault for not taking advantage of the strategic imbalance

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The Warriors have the best 3-point shooters so defenses have to give up other stuff.... but the team with the best 3-point shooters wins in today's game - that's golden state - even though other teams have better actual basketball players

The best 3PT shooters don't even make the most threes.

And your precious "Pop" claimed the team with the most threes win. According to a stat sheet anyway.

Take the L and concede defeat, hammerhead.

[tontoz]

The Warriors have the best 3-point shooters so defenses have to give up other stuff.... but the team with the best 3-point shooters wins in today's game - that's golden state - even though other teams have better actual basketball players

Houston has over twice as many guys who shoot well from 3. That is why they average 3 made 3s per game more than GS.

Guarding 2 3 pt shooters is a lot easier than guarding 4 or 5.

Bogut, what a monster from 3. Looney, wasn't he in the 3 point contest?

Houston > GS, according to Pop.

[3ball]

The best 3PT shooters don't make the most threes.

Your precious "Pop" claims the team with the most threes win. According to a stat sheet anyway.

Take the L and concede defeat, hammerhead.
Again, you can pretend to be autistic and act like Pop meant 100% of the time

But we know what he meant and what he means

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era ... also, curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3 attempts - this is historical fact

[3ball]

Houston has over twice as many guys who shoot well from 3. That is why they average 3 made 3s per game more than GS.

Guarding 2 3 pt shooters is a lot easier than guarding 4 or 5.

Bogut, what a monster from 3. Looney, wasn't he in the 3 point contest?

Houston > GS, according to Pop.
Again, you can pretend to be autistic and act like Pop meant 100% of the time

But we know what he meant and what he means

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era ... also, curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3 attempts - this is historical fact..

[tontoz]

Again, you can pretend to be autistic and act like Pop meant 100% of the time

But we know what he meant and what he means

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era ... also, curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3 attempts - this is historical fact..


I am not disputing it at all. Houston takes and makes the most 3s and have for years. It is a historical fact.

Houston > GS

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Nope. The only person pretending to be autistic is you.

You misinterpreted what "Pop" said. Which is fine.

But now you're repeating yourself, bad comprehension and all.

[3ball]

Nope. The only person pretending to be autistic is you.

You misinterpreted what "Pop" said. Which is fine.

But now you're repeating yourself, bad comprehension and all.
Pop agrees with me, not u

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Deflection i win

Pop agrees with me, not u

Except, Pop doesn't agree with you.

Because Golden State actually doesn't make the most threes.

Hold this phat L :oldlol:

[3ball]

Pop actually doesn't agree with you.

Golden State doesn't make the most threes.

Hold this phat L :oldlol:
We can all read what he said.. if I post it again, you'll shit your pants again

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

We can all read what he said.. if I post it again, you'll shit your pants again

Yeah. Everyone except you.

Keep spamming, peabrain.

[sd3035]

Houston won the series according to OP

[Kblaze8855]

This guy has kinda snapped.

Not that he was behaving normally to begin with....

[tontoz]

Where's GS?







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[3ball]

This guy has kinda snapped.

Not that he was behaving normally to begin with....
the thread has 100 posts in an hour

Because I'm just spouting poppycock

That Popovich parrots...

:facepalm

You guys are just that salty that you stan frauds.. guys that can't really play.. carry on

[NBAGOAT]

the thread has 100 posts in an hour

Because I'm just spouting poppycock

That Popovich parrots...

:facepalm

You guys are just that salty that you stan frauds.. guys that can't really play.. carry on

pop doesnt like all the 3's from an aesthetic pov, it's boring to him which is why he used "beauty". You'll find plenty of people here who agree with that. Never once in that quote did he say guys who shots 3's werent skilled basketball players or claimed there are many better basketball players than curry and klay. You're being more ridiculous than usual

[AirFederer]

You make us MJ fans look bad, NoBall :(

Steph is producing and winning at a goat level, deal with it.

[Kblaze8855]

Saying things that are measured and reasonable don

[diamenz]

stop living the past, 3ball. the jordan days are over. threes are a major part of the game now, whether u like it or not. that fact doesn't take anything away from the athletes of today - it's still the highest level of competitive basketball in the world.

man, your life must be rough. watch some playoffs ffs.

[3ball]

Pop actually doesn't agree with you.

Golden State doesn't make the most threes.


Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - that's the deciding factor... So who cares if Houston made the most threes - GSW still made a bunch

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it
.

[3ball]

pop doesnt like all the 3's from an aesthetic pov, it's boring to him which is why he used "beauty". You'll find plenty of people here who agree with that. Never once in that quote did he say guys who shots 3's werent skilled basketball players or claimed there are many better basketball players than curry and klay. You're being more ridiculous than usual


Pop said "there's no basketball anymore"... And it's boring due to lack of variety

He also said the most important factor is threes - if you made them and the other team didn't, then that's the deciding factor.. so it's a 3-pt shooting contest.. :confusedshrug:

How does this disagree with what I said?

[tontoz]

Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so who cares if Houston made the most threes

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it



It is the "3 pt era" but it doesn't matter who makes the most 3s?










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[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so who cares if Houston made the most threes

the Warriors win because they have the best 3-pt shooters ever - it isn't coincidence that this coincides with the 3-pt era

Today's game is a 3-pt contest and that isn't basketball - it's called "the 3-pt era", yet ur disputing it

Your argument from jumpstreet is that today's game is a "3PT contest"

Which means the team with MORE threes...wins.

You lose again, fukkface.

[tpols]

Pop agrees with me, not u


Dummy Houston has taken and made more 3s over 100s of games.

They lost.

Portland has taken and made more this series. About to be swept.

Take. your. L.

mate.

:coleman:

[SpaceJam2]

Your argument from jumpstreet is that today's game is a "3PT contest"

Which means the team with MORE threes...wins.

You lose again, fukkface.

:lol

Bang

[3ball]

Dummy Houston has taken and made more 3s over 100s of games.

They lost.

Portland has taken and made more this series. About to be swept.

Take. your. L.

mate.

:coleman:
Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so the biggest factor was whether one team shot poorly on threes, not who made the most threes

I'm not saying anything out of the ordinary - it's the 3-point era and the Warriors have the best 3-pt shooters - so no wonder they're winning.. but Popovich's concerns about variety and lack of real basketball are a result of flawed game, where a 24 footers are valued 50% more than a 23 footers... No wonder it's become a 3-pt contest

[3ball]

Your argument from jumpstreet is that today's game is a "3PT contest"

Which means the team with MORE threes...wins.

You lose again, fukkface.
Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so the biggest factor was whether one team shot poorly on threes, not who made the most threes

I'm not saying anything out of the ordinary - it's the 3-point era and the Warriors have the best 3-pt shooters - so no wonder they're winning..

but Popovich's concerns about variety and lack of real basketball result from a flawed game, where a 24 footers are valued 50% more than a 23 footers... No wonder it's become a 3-pt contest and a verifiable joke of a game

[tontoz]

Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so the biggest factor was whether one team shot poorly on threes, not who made the most threes

I'm not saying anything out of the ordinary - it's the 3-point era and the Warriors have the best 3-pt shooters - so no wonder they're winning.. but Popovich's concerns about variety and lack of real basketball are a result of flawed game, where a 24 footers are valued 50% more than a 23 footers... No wonder it's become a 3-pt contest



A 3 point contest where it doesn't matter who makes the most 3s.








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[tpols]

Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't - so the biggest factor was whether one team shot poorly on threes, not who made the most threes


But.. the other team did. Houston did. make, more 3's.

So by volume, attempts, make's, %'s... the rockets made more.

How youre spamming that line is remarkably cute.. like youre making a point.

Youre getting passed around like bran in a Finals match. or a blunt at tyreke evans house.


i might be getting too big a kick out of this. :lol

[3ball]

But.. the other team did. Houston did. make, more 3's.

So by volume, attempts, make's, %'s... the rockets made more.


Teams must defend the Warriors goat 3-point shooters, which opens up OTHER things for them,

So they don't always need to hit the most threes, but need the best 3-point shooters to be the best team

Again, it's the 3-pt era, so it's no surprise that the team with the best 3-point-shooters wins the most






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Today's game allows this guy to be more effective than Kareem:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-05-2019/545xXv.gif

[tontoz]

Today's game allows this guy to be more effective than Kareem:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-05-2019/545xXv.gif


Being tall and jumping high takes so much basketball skill, certainly more than making 3s.

[3ball]

Being tall and jumping high takes so much basketball skill, certainly more than making 3s.
The league's spacing strategy has evolved so that 89% of the league's 3-point attempts are either "open" or "wide-open"

It's 80% for Curry

So Curry is just a system player that is hitting open shots and benefitting from the 3-pt era

Nowhere near Kareem and MJ, whose skyhok and fadeaway was ALWAYS contested heavily

[RRR3]

3ball is just mad Ordan never had close to the offensive impact of Curry.

[Walk on Water]

The league's spacing strategy has evolved so that 89% of the league's 3-point attempts are either "open" or "wide-open"

It's 80% for Curry

So Curry is just a system player that is hitting open shots and benefitting from the 3-pt era

Nowhere near Kareem and MJ, whose skyhok and fadeaway was ALWAYS contested heavily


So would Steve Kerr be a super star today?

[tontoz]

The league's spacing strategy has evolved so that 89% of the league's 3-point attempts are either "open" or "wide-open"

It's 80% for Curry

So Curry is just a system player that is hitting open shots and benefitting from the 3-pt era

Nowhere near Kareem and MJ, whose skyhok and fadeaway was ALWAYS contested heavily


Curry is the system. They are 5-8 without him this season.




Actually, without KD, the Warriors are still super dominant. Golden State is plus-14.8 in 672 minutes with Curry, Thompson and Green playing without Durant.

We don’t need you. We won without you. Leave.

But Durant is not the only pending free agent in the Bay. Klay Thompson is headed to the open market in July, as well. What happens when you also remove Thompson and sit him on the bench next to Durant?

Same result: The Warriors are still juggernauts, registering a plus-13.9 in 526 minutes with Curry and Green on the floor without the help of Durant or Thompson.

Now comes the mind-blowing part -- let's take Draymond out of the equation and leave Curry by himself a cast of role players. No Durant. No Thompson. No Green.

With Curry rolling solo, the Warriors are still plus-14.3 in 216 minutes of action. That’s without the help of an MVP, a former Defensive Player of the Year and perhaps the second-greatest shooter ever not named Stephen Wardell Curry. The offense scores 116.6 points per 100 possessions in these lineups, which would be the league-leading offensive rating this season.

To recap, the Warriors go from plus-16.9 to plus-14.8 to plus-13.9 to plus-14.3 as you keep removing an All-Star from Curry. But as these numbers show, Curry is impervious. He's teammate-agnostic. For those that think Curry would struggle in another organization or in another system, it’s clear: He is the system.




https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/nba-insider-tom-haberstroh/steph-curry-warriors-breaking-point

[LAVAR BALL]

So would Steve Kerr be a super star today?

That is actually a legit question...

Having a sub able to play 20 min per game launching 10 3 a game at almost 50% would make a lot of teams happy


Pop said that if you made threes and the other team didn't ==> I wonder what POP would say if a Team made his layup and the other didn't, or the MidRange, or the fast break, or the Free Throws

[3ball]

So would Steve Kerr be a super star today?
Oh my

A good counter itt

But even when Curry was taking a normal number of threes, he was still an 18 ppg player.. Kerr was never at 18 ppg.. :confusedshrug: .. Curry is simply a decent bit better than Kerr

Fyi Curry was an 18 ppg player when attempting 4.7 three a game (2010-2012), but then jumped to 23 ppg at 7.7 attempts, and 30 at 11.2 attempts

As the league got better at generating open threes, Curry's star rose.. again, 89% of today's threes are "open" or "wide open" (80% for dingo)

[ballinhun8]

The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in the thread belong solely to 3ball, and not necessarily to the Bulls fans, the Bulls organization, or other group or individual.

[tontoz]

Durant and Klay play in the same system as Curry. Why don't they take as many 3s as Curry does?

KD is so much taller he can shoot them whenever he wants. Klay is much taller than Curry but doesn't take as many 3s. Why is that?

[Rico2016]

My how the mighty have fallen. This thread is just sad desperation. Jordan had a nice run but it appears to be fading faster and faster and there won't be much to impede his fall from grace. 20 years was a long time to be at the top (1998-2018) but his time has ran out.

[tpols]

Durant and Klay play in the same system as Curry. Why don't they take as many 3s as Curry does?

KD is so much taller he can shoot them whenever he wants. Klay is much taller than Curry but doesn't take as many 3s. Why is that?


Thats the hilarious irony...

KD is so much better at generating midrange looks in isos and in general that the rest of the team just ends up becoming reliant on him.

Much like Jordan... nobody else is allowed to shine.

Curry gets his 35 ppg 70 TS on TOP of letting everybody else go off.

The antithesis to 3balls never ending lebron bashing poasts. Ultimate off ball play & subsequent teamwork.

:confusedshrug:

[tontoz]

Thats the hilarious irony...

KD is so much better at generating midrange looks in isos and in general that the rest of the team just ends up becoming reliant on him.

Much like Jordan... nobody else is allowed to shine.

Curry gets his 35 ppg 70 TS on TOP of letting everybody else go off.

The antithesis to 3balls never ending lebron bashing poasts. Ultimate off ball play & subsequent teamwork.

:confusedshrug:


MJ is my favorite player ever but 3ball makes me sick of him.

I think Curry isn't as good as MJ overall because MJ was an elite defender but i think Curry has more offensive impact. He is elite with or without the ball and that is very rare.

[3ball]

The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in the thread belong solely to 3ball, and not necessarily to the Bulls fans, the Bulls organization, or other group or individual.

Actually, many things mentioned itt are merely the NBA's stats, such as:



Curry 10-12':. 4.7 three pt attempts.. 18 ppg
Curry. 2013:.. 7.7 three pt attempts.. 23 ppg
Curry. 2016:. 11.2 three pt attempts.. 30 ppg


From 2010-2012, Curry was an 18 ppg player while attempting 4.7 threes a game.. He only became a 23+ scorer when his attempts jumped to a modern level of 7.7 in 13'

Here's more stats from the thread - 89% of today's threes are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet).. this figure is 80% for curry - so curry shoots mostly open shots obtained via a system

[3ball]

MJ is my favorite player ever but 3ball makes me sick of him.

I think Curry isn't as good as MJ overall because MJ was an elite defender but i think Curry has more offensive impact. He is elite with or without the ball and that is very rare.

MJ was an off-ball player, the greatest of all-time:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-28-2015/ew2ZUl.gif


He'd be bananas in today's spaced-out, hands-off beginner game

[tontoz]

Actually, many things mentioned itt are merely the NBA's stats, such as:



Curry 10-12':. 4.7 three pt attempts.. 18 ppg
Curry. 2013:.. 7.7 three pt attempts.. 23 ppg
Curry. 2016:. 11.2 three pt attempts.. 30 ppg


From 2010-2012, Curry was an 18 ppg player while attempting 4.7 threes a game.. He only became a 23+ scorer when his attempts jumped to a modern level of 7.7 in 13'

Here's more stats from the thread - 89% of today's threes are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet).. this figure is 80% for curry - so curry shoots mostly open shots obtained via a system



Why did Curry's overall shot attempts jump after Ellis got traded? Could it be that Ellis was a selfish gunner?

In 2010/11 Ellis was 2nd in the league in shot attempts.

[SpaceJam2]

MJ was an off-ball player, the greatest of all-time:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-28-2015/ew2ZUl.gif


He'd be bananas in today's spaced-out, hands-off beginner game

Except that auto mechanics aren't making All-Star games anymore in the modern era so no you are wrong again :lol :lol

[3ball]

Why did Curry's overall shot attempts jump after Ellis got traded? Could it be that Ellis was a selfish gunner?

In 2010/11 Ellis was 2nd in the league in shot attempts.
Curry's shot attempts increased from 14.3 in 2010 and 2011 (his non-injury years), to 17.5 in 2013

That's a 3 shot increase, the same as the increase in his 3-point shot attempts (4.7 to 7.7)

So the increase in 3-point shot attempts account for his increase in shot attempts - he's an 18 ppg player at the previous level of threes and only became an elite scorer when his 3-pt attempts increased to modern level

[tontoz]

MJ was an off-ball player, the greatest of all-time:







No he really wasn't. He had the ball in his hands most of the time. He actually leads the NBA all time in usage rate.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/usg_pct_career.html

I remember Steve Smith saying it was really hard to guard Reggie Miller because it was tiring chasing him around screens. He said Jordan was far easier to guard physically because Jordan was more stationary.

Plus the court was smaller for defenders guarding Jordan. They didn't have to chase him off the 3 pt line.

[tontoz]

Curry's shot attempts increased from 14.3 in 2010 and 2011 (his non-injury years), to 17.5 in 2013

That's a 3 shot increase, the same as the increase in his 3-point shot attempts (4.7 to 7.7)

So the increase in 3-point shot attempts account for his increase in shot attempts - he's an 18 ppg player at the previous level of threes and only became an elite scorer when his 3-pt attempts increased to modern level


He increased his shots after a chucker got traded?















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[3ball]

He increased his shots after a chucker got traded?



Only his 3-point attempts increased

And it was due to new strategies employed by the team.

The historical record shows that Curry needs to a lot of 3-pt attempts to average a lot of points.. without a modern level of 3-point attempts for an elite shooter (8+), he's an 18 ppg player like he was from 10-12'

[tontoz]

Only his 3-point attempts increased

And it was due to new strategies employed by the team.

The historical record shows that Curry needs to a lot of 3-pt attempts to average a lot of points.. without a modern level of 3-point attempts for an elite shooter (8+), he's an 18 ppg player like he was from 10-12'


Yeah that strategy was...we dont have Ellis chucking any more so Curry was allowed to do what Curry does best.

[tontoz]

During his MVP year he averaged 11.2 made field goals and 4.6 foul shots made. That doesn't add up to 18 points under any rules.

[SpaceJam2]

Only his 3-point attempts increased

And it was due to new strategies employed by the team.

The historical record shows that Curry needs to a lot of 3-pt attempts to average a lot of points.. without a modern level of 3-point attempts for an elite shooter (8+), he's an 18 ppg player like he was from 10-12'


And MJ without dunks is Demar Derozan..

Broken 3 ball, decent mid range

[3ball]

Yeah that strategy was...we dont have Ellis chucking any more so Curry was allowed to do what Curry does best.
Okay, now ur making my point - threes is all he does at an elite level - that's what he does "best" as you say (translation: that's all he does best)

Curry needs a lot of threes to be a good scorer. Otherwise, he's a little better than jimmer fredette going to the hole, post and midrange, maybe worse than arroyo

[tontoz]

Okay, now ur making my point - threes is all he does at an elite level - that's what he does "best" as you say (translation: that's all he does best)

Curry needs a lot of threes to be a good scorer. Otherwise, he's a little better than jimmer fredette going to the hole, post and midrange, maybe worse than arroyo


Taking out the extra point for 3s

11.2 field goals made + 4.6 free throws made = 27 ppg, not 18

He is also the GOAT foul shooter.

[r0drig0lac]

fact....but not only that.....

they also have the advantage of being the first team in the history allowed to use 100% of illegal screens since 2015

[raprap]

Warriors would dominate the 90s

[bigkingsfan]

Otherwise, he's a little better than jimmer fredette going to the hole, post and midrange, maybe worse than arroyo
How much have you watch fredette play, trash handles, couldn't beat anyone off the dribble or finish in traffic.

[tontoz]

Curry shoots well from midrange also.

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[egokiller]

Your takeaway from GS winning without Durant...is this?

I get what you're saying but peeps who appreciate good basketball? They fukk with the KD-less Warrior team.

Live in the moment for a bit. Appreciate what we're seeing NOW - the GOAT shooting backcourt.

Anyone who appreciates good basketball isn

[3ball]

And MJ without dunks is Demar Derozan..

Broken 3 ball, decent mid range
Jerry West said MJ would be as good as anyone that's ever played if he didn't have dunks.. it's on oldschool's obsession vid... Also:

When it mattered - 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs.. 43% in 91-93 Finals on 3.3 attempts

When he tried - MJ averaged under 1.5 attempts every year except 90' & 93' at 3 attempts (38% and 35%)

In today's game, he'd develop the same accuracy on 3's that he developed on his mid-range fadeaway - so among the best of all time



Jerry West: "I've seen some incredible players," West says. "I mean, the Lakers had some incredible players--Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson--and it's awful to say, but Michael Jordan is the best player I've ever seen.

"People get enamored with his spectacular physical presence, but his skill level . . . if his skill level wasn't that good, he'd be another guy who you'd see on the highlight films a lot, but he wouldn't have been thought of as maybe the greatest player that ever played the game. Right now, I don't know who's a better jump-shooter."

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-05-12/magazine/tm-3107_1_michael-jordan/4


Ron Artest: "Jordan was the toughest (to guard out of Kobe, Lebron, MJ) because he's as strong as Lebron, he shoots as good as Reggie Miller from the mid-range, and because he's tough. He's a killer out there on the court."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dXZxj6Zbc&t=0m57s

[Cleverness]

How does the goat shooter get open for 80% (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13681661&postcount=41) of his threes?.. he's just a system player; so is Klay - they benefit from today's spacing strategy where 89% (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466527) of threes are "open" or "wide open", according to NBA.com...

And the team with the best 3-point shooters wins, which is golden state.. :confusedshrug:

Again, he's just a system player whose great 3-point prowess benefits from the current NBA format.. he's not actually a great baller.. take away the 3-pt line and he wouldn't make the NBA - he was barely a prospect at all until 3-pointers became popular - facts.. #davidsonstar
.

Curry is not a system player.

Curry is the system creator.

The next evolution of basketball.

His system is called the "Curry System" - also known as the Winning System.

-3 rings already

-Undefeated in playoff series when his team is healthy and not suspended

Can you say that about any other MVP? :eek:

[3ball]

Curry is not a system player.

Curry is the system creator.

The next evolution of basketball.

His system is called the "Curry System" - also known as the Winning System.

-3 rings already

-Undefeated in playoff series when his team is healthy and not suspended

Can you say that about any other MVP? :eek:
He gave the game of basketball to midgets - height no longer matters

You think it's just the centers that are obsolete??? Try Durant.. Lebron.. any big wing that can attack the rim - curry's Warriors are better without all of them - that means they're becoming obsolete..

again, curry gave the game to midgets, all because of a dumb loophole that makes 24 footers 50% more valuable than 23 footers - yes, it's as dumb as it sounds

[SouBeachTalents]

Curry is not a system player.

Curry is the system creator.

The next evolution of basketball.

His system is called the "Curry System" - also known as the Winning System.

-3 rings already

-Undefeated in playoff series when his team is healthy and not suspended

Can you say that about any other MVP? :eek:
He's not undefeated in the playoffs considering they lost to the Spurs & Clippers. And playing the injury card when their opponents lost Kyrie/Love, Kawhi & CP3 to injury during their championship seasons is laughable

[tontoz]

Bigs still have far more impact than guards defensively.

I think the emphasis on the 3 may have run it's course to an extent. Look at what has happened in the playoffs. Houston gone early again after making the most 3s.

3 pt percentages have fallen off in the playoffs. During the regular season the median 3 pt % for teams was 35.2%. During the playoffs it is 33.8%. What makes that more significant is that the best shooting teams are in the playoffs.

Think of the big playoff performances we have seen. Kawhi going off from midrange. KD going off from midrange. CJ having a huge game 7 from midrange.

The value of midrange shooting is going up in the playoffs as 3 pt defense intensifies. I think teams will start to wise up about that. Midrange shots are always available.

[Cleverness]

He's not undefeated in the playoffs considering they lost to the Spurs & Clippers. And playing the injury card when their opponents lost Kyrie/Love, Kawhi & CP3 to injury during their championship seasons is laughable

Warriors only All-Star that year was David Lee, averaged 19/11, and completely tore his right hip right before the Spurs series

Warriors DOPY Andrew Bogut was injured for that Clippers series

You have a good point with those injuries to other teams you mentioned, but that has nothing to do with what I said

[StrongLurk]

Curry has broken 3ball :roll:

Curry is the GOAT free throw shooter, and is a very good midrange shooter and finisher at the rim.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Anyone who appreciates good basketball isn’t appreciating a league with watered down rules. How many times does GSW have to run the same pick and shoot play that can’t be defended due to shit rules before people realize that it’s boring basketball. I get zero pleasure out of hitting a 3 off a pick. I do get pleasure breaking away from a guy holding my jersey, using my off arm, and creating my own 3 by getting the defender off balance with a sequence of movies.

Anyone with a slight inkling for basketball..respect the Dubs for what they are.

A combination of GOAT shooting, off ball brilliance, elite playmaking AND first-tier defense.

Me?

I prefer the old rules. Most of the oldschool players too. That doesn't mean I am going to be a naive kunt and deny Dray/Klay/Curry are great ballers.

You don't like basketball now? Nobody is putting a gun to your head, forcing you to watch.

[3ball]

Anyone with a slight inkling for basketball..respect the Dubs for what they are.

A combination of GOAT shooting, off ball brilliance, elite playmaking AND first-tier defense.

Me?

I prefer the old rules. Most of the oldschool players too. That doesn't mean I am going to be a naive kunt and deny Dray/Klay/Curry are great ballers.

You don't like basketball now? Nobody is putting a gun to your head, forcing you to watch.
They aren't great ballers; just great 3-point shooters

That's why you don't see footage of curry playing in the Drew league or other such leagues - because he'd get destroyed - I remember that Asian kid blocking his 3-pointer in one of the pickup highlights

Curry is just a robot that shoots threes, not a baller.. a taller professor

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

They aren't great ballers; just great 3-point shooters

That's why you don't see footage of curry playing in the Drew league or other such leagues - because he'd get destroyed - I remember that Asian kid blocking his 3-pointer in one of the pickup highlights

Curry is just a robot that shoots threes, not a baller.. a taller professor

I forgot that you haven't watched a game in YEARS.

You're forgiven.

[3ball]

I forgot that you haven't watched a game in YEARS.

You're forgiven.
3-pointers ain't basketball; ask Pop

Give me the ball first in a make-it-take-it game to 5 and I beat Curry

[winwin]

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he doesn't know how many miles Curry runs per game :)

[red1]

OP getting brain cramps whenever he thinks

[3ball]

:roll: :pimp:

[Kblaze8855]

One star ruptures his achilles and another tears his ACL and you are so classless as to come on here acting like your nonsense is proven correct by a decimated team losing. We have some total piece of shit posters. A lot of you are not gonna survive the offseason at this rate.

[Inferno]

One star ruptures his achilles and another tears his ACL and you are so classless as to come on here acting like your nonsense is proven correct by a decimated team losing. We have some total piece of shit posters. A lot of you are not gonna survive the offseason at this rate.

It

[3ball]

One star ruptures his achilles and another tears his ACL and you are so classless as to come on here acting like your nonsense is proven correct by a decimated team losing. We have some total piece of shit posters. A lot of you are not gonna survive the offseason at this rate.

The warriors losing without boogie and a game each from Klay/Looney proves that they can only win when completely stacked unfairly, and therefore aren't that good - Curry/Klay/Dray is supposed to be enough to win, but he they only have 2015 to hang their hat on - they simply aren't championship caliber without KD

Btw, how come Kawhi can win by shooting 35% from three and Curry can't?... :confusedshrug:

Patiently awaiting you and anyone's response to this doozy..


https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Mr-Bean-Waiting.gif

[Inferno]

Btw, how come Kawhi can win by shooting 35% from three and Curry can't?... :confusedshrug:

Because the Raptors role-players shot better?

[3ball]

Because the Raptors role-players shot better?
You wish that was the reason

Lol

before the series, I said the Warriors would lose if the stats showed that Curry shot like 36% instead of his normal 43%

Voila - the guy is a 3-pt shooter, nothing more.. shit that gimmick down and he's nothing.. you or I could beat him.. or at least I could

[Kblaze8855]

A team losing with multiple missing superstars does not prove they arent that good when they have them. What the **** is wrong with you? You might as well say the worlds best burger is proven overrated if it isnt as good without the patty. What you are when your team is missing key pieces has nothing to do with how good you are whole.

Thats some "Lets tie Muhammad Ali hand behind his back and see if he beats Foreman" ass logic.

[3ball]

A team losing with multiple missing superstars does not prove they arent that good when they have them. What the **** is wrong with you? You might as well say the worlds best burger is proven overrated if it isnt as good without the patty. What you are when your team is missing key pieces has nothing to do with how good you are whole.

Thats some "Lets tie Muhammad Ali hand behind his back and see if he beats Foreman" ass logic.
Remember when everyone said the Warriors had the most talent ever?

Well the injuries brought the Warriors' so-called goat talent back to the field, where curry/klay/dray proved that they aren't championship caliber - those 3 guys are HOF and supposed to be 3 of the top 4 players in the series, yet they aren't championship caliber and have never shown they are (15' was a joke)

And again, how come Kawhi can win by shooting 35% from three and Curry can't?... This proves my point - his skillset wins 3-pt contests, not championships, unless he has KD

[Koresh]

That line about Jordan only dominating the 90's was due to him being the best contested mid range shooter reallly struck a nerve with ya huh Bruce?

ya boy was a product of a weaker era + the triangle

deal with it

You unlocked the hidden code. I truly believe 3ball is Bruce Blitz. I saw a video the other day that was definitely a red flag and it immediately clicked that they are the same person. If you aren't talking about Blitz, I apologize.

Signs:
1. Both obsessed with Jordan.
2. Old man yells at cloud.
3. Hates LeBron

:confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

You unlocked the hidden code. I truly believe 3ball is Bruce Blitz. I saw a video the other day that was definitely a red flag and it immediately clicked that they are the same person. If you aren't talking about Blitz, I apologize.

Signs:
1. Both obsessed with Jordan.
2. Old man yells at cloud.
3. Hates LeBron

:confusedshrug:
I remember when Bruce loved LeBron.

[Koresh]

I remember when Bruce loved LeBron.

It's truly amazing. He didn't hate LeBron until after the 2016 NBA Finals when everyone was calling him the GOAT and coincidentally, 3ball wasn't talking about LeBron until after people the 2016 NBA Finals when everyone was calling him the GOAT...

3ball was on here posting about Jordan and no one cared until all of a sudden he is posting more about LeBron James because people wouldn't think he was the GOAT.

Same with Jlauber. He turned on LeBron in a similar fashion.

After 2016, he thought people were going to forget about MJ or something, so he went on this mass crusade online to make sure no one ever forgot MJ, which is silly. No one needs to defend MJ's legacy or constantly defend him 24/7. It's insecure as f*ck.

I would love for someone to compare posts of Bruce Blitz when he was using his name here back in the day to 3ball's posts over the years. I bet it would be damn near identical.

[LBJFTW]

The raptors beat this GSW team which is similar to the 2016 team so that just means that 2016 wasn't really that impressive.