Top 10 of Lebron's 3rd options and below

[3ball]

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1) Bosh (hof)
2) Love (hof)
3) 2010 Mo Williams
4) 2010 Varejao (all-def)
5) Ray Allen (hof)
6) Derrick Rose
7) Rodney Hood
8) IT
9) Korver
10) George Hill


I thought about including 2009 all-star MVP Shaq, since he was bron's 4th option in 2010... He averaged 12/7 with 1.5 blocks alongside Bron - a lot better than Cartwright or Longley but maybe not quite enough to make the list? Hard to say...

I might've missed some

[bigkingsfan]

Yea you did :

1-9

[RealSkipBayless]

Do you still consider Mo Williams a "mini curry"?

[And1AllDay]

1-9

10 ppg Hornacek

6900 points

[3ball]

Do you still consider Mo Williams a "mini curry"?
Curry is better than Mo, hence the term "mini"

But 09' Mo > 10 and 11' Curry

Curry was an 18 ppg player when he was taking 4 threes a game like Mo in the previous era -

but his 3-point attempts jumped to 8 per game in 2013, as the league adopted new spacing strategy - only then did his ppg increase and it increased every year with the increase in his 3-pt attempts

So similar to Mo, he's a 3-pt robot, but just better at it

[And1AllDay]

Curry is better than Mo, hence the term "mini"

But 09' Mo > 10 and 11' Curry

Curry was an 18 ppg player when he was taking 4 threes a game like Mo in the previous era -

but his 3-point attempts jumped to 8 per game in 2013, as the league adopted new spacing strategy - only then did his ppg increase and it increased every year with the increase in his 3-pt attempts

https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg

[3ball]

https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg
You're comparing mj's winning stats to Lebron's losing stats

That isn't fair

MJ had better losing stats against better comp (44 ppg versus the 86' Celts and their #1 defense with 5 HOF)

And his worst winning stats from 96' Finals > lebron's worst winning stats from 2013 Finals

Lebron's 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games and needed Ray Allen to force game 7.. MJ never played that bad thru 6 games, so he never needed a game 7




https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg

Lebron's worst series



2007 ECSF vs NJN:... 24.7 on 42.3%
2007 ECF vs DET:..... 25.8 on 44.7%
2007 Finals vs SAS:.. 22.0 on 35.6%

2008 ECSF vs BOS:.... 26.7 on 35.5%

2010 ECSF vs BOS:.... 26.8 on 44.7% (quit)

2011 RD 1 vs PHI:...... 24.2 on 46.9%
2011 ECF vs CHI:....... 25.8 on 44.7%
2011 Finals vs DAL:... 17.8 on 47.8%

2013 RD 1 vs MIL:..... 24.5 on 60.7%
2013 ECSF vs CHI:.... 23.6 on 43.8%
2013 Finals vs SAS:.. 25.3 on 44.7%

2014 ECF vs IND:...... 22.8 on 55.7%

2015 ECSF vs CHI:.... 26.2 on 39.9%

2016 RD 1 vs DET:.... 22.8 on 48.7%
2016 ECSF vs ATL:... 24.3 on 50.7%


It's funny because I just took the Pippen's worst series (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13693383&postcount=216) template and barely had to change the numbers.. :rockon:

MJ only has 2 series that compare - 96' Finals (27.3 on 41.5%) and 97' ECF (30.2 on 38.7%)..

(the 97' ecf shouldn't count because he averaged 30, and I omitted all lebron series where he averaged 30+ regardless of efficiency)

[And1AllDay]

You're comparing mj's winning stats to Lebron's losing stats

That isn't fair

MJ had better losing stats against better comp (44 ppg versus the 86' Celts and their #1 defense with 5 HOF)

And his worst winning stats from 96' Finals > lebron's worst winning stats from 2013 Finals

Lebron's 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games and needed Ray Allen to force game 7.. MJ never played that bad thru 6 games, so he never needed a game 7




Lebron's worst series



2007 ECSF vs NJN:... 24.7 on 42.3%
2007 ECF vs DET:..... 25.8 on 44.7%
2007 Finals vs SAS:.. 22.0 on 35.6%

2008 ECSF vs BOS:.... 26.7 on 35.5%

2010 ECSF vs BOS:.... 26.8 on 44.7% (quit)

2011 RD 1 vs PHI:...... 24.2 on 46.9%
2011 ECF vs CHI:....... 25.8 on 44.7%
2011 Finals vs DAL:... 17.8 on 47.8%

2013 RD 1 vs MIL:..... 24.5 on 60.7%
2013 ECSF vs CHI:.... 23.6 on 43.8%
2013 Finals vs SAS:.. 25.3 on 44.7%

2014 ECF vs IND:...... 22.8 on 55.7%

2015 ECSF vs CHI:.... 26.2 on 39.9%

2016 RD 1 vs DET:.... 22.8 on 48.7%
2016 ECSF vs ATL:... 24.3 on 50.7%


It's funny because I just took the Pippen's worst series (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13693383&postcount=216) template and barely had to change the numbers.. :rockon:

MJ only has 2 series that compare - 96' Finals (27.3 on 41.5%) and 97' ECF (30.2 on 38.7%)..

(the 97' ecf shouldn't count because he averaged 30, and I omitted all lebron series where he averaged 30+ regardless of efficiency)


FINALS bruh

Not 1st round fodder :oldlol:

We know you think 1-9 is cool but its not :oldlol:

[3ball]

FINALS bruh

Not 1st round fodder :oldlol:

We know you think 1-9 is cool but its not :oldlol:
It's against a better team than lebron ever faced

and we can't use Finals anyway because MJ never lost the championship - so there's no stats from lost Finals to compare to the ones you posted for lebron

[StrongLurk]

That list isn't impressive at all :roll:

[fiddy]

That list isn't impressive at all :roll:
Neither ***/9.

[3ball]

That list isn't impressive at all :roll:
How many 11-time all-stars were 3rd options in their prime?

I'll wait


How many 3rd options were top 4 in the league in PER, VORP, BPM, and WS/48?

I'll wait