Pippen did it all, Mike just scored.

[And1AllDay]

Can anyone explain this picture

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg

[jstern]

I saw those games. Jordan was clearly the GOAT. Best player on the floor.

[bullettooth]

Yeah.. And lebron lost 6 finals.

Enjoy that legacy.

[And1AllDay]

I saw those games. Jordan was clearly the GOAT. Best player on the floor.

Scoring sure he was great

passing no
rebounding no
steals no
blocks no
defense no

1 for 6 not too shabby for a Mikey J standard :oldlol:

[3ball]

.
Leading the 2nd option in scoring by goat amounts (scoring champ), while still tying in assists is the goat load:



91-93' Playoffs

MJ (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34 on 52%.. 6.6 apg.. 2.9 TO.. 31.1 ast%.. 36.1 usg.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Pip (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20 on 47%.. 6.1 apg.. 3.4 TO.. 23.3 ast%.. 24.9 usg.. 109 ortg..19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs

MJ (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 2.3 TO.. 22.3 ast%.. 35.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 27.3 PER
Pip (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 2.7 TO.. 22.0 ast%.. 23.4 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.0 PER


The goat carry-job..

MJ averaged 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all Finals (1-man show and closer), compared to 2-5 for lebron in his Finals wins (equal scoring teammate that closed)

[Doranku]

1600 points >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 180 boards and 20 assists/steals/blocks

Even if every extra board, assist, steal, and block that Scottie accumulated led to a 3 pointer for the Bulls, he'd still contribute less than half of those 1600 points that Jordan has over him. :oldlol:

[3ball]

passing no



^^^ Poppycock

MJ was considered a better PG than magic/isiah during his 24 games at PG in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games):



"In just 16 games at point guard, Jordan has gone from the league’s leading scorer the last two seasons to being lumped with Johnson, John Stockton of Utah and Isiah Thomas of Detroit as the elite among NBA point guards. Jordan may already be the best of the group."

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/


^^^^^ Pippen didn't have it like that... :whatever:...

MJ led the bulls in assists or tied Pippen, despite maintaining the biggest scoring edge and burden ever - that's the goat load





rebounding no


More offensive rebs than lebron

Def rebs are easier to replace





steals no


3x steals champ

How many for Pip





defense no


Dpoy for MJ and 9 first teams

How many for Pip

[3ball]

Oh, and MJ was required to do everything in the clutch, as teammates were instructed by Phil Jackson to "leave Michael all alone":



Phil Jackson to teammates during 4th quarter of 91' Finals:

Don't leave Michael all alone here.. it's not time YET (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s)..


:bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

Oh, and MJ was required to do everything in the clutch, as teammates were instructed by Phil Jackson to "leave Michael all alone":



Phil Jackson to teammates during 4th quarter of 91' Finals:

Don't leave Michael all alone here.. it's not time YET (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s)..

whats his best finals opponent i just saw 2 of his finals were against worst all time second options :oldlol: :oldlol:

[3ball]

Regular Season

J HORNACEK:f. 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:f. 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:. 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


:facepalm ... Klay sucks






whats his best finals opponent i just saw 2 of his finals were against worst all time second options :oldlol: :oldlol:



Hornacek > Klay

Let alone Stockton... :facepalm ... Stockton is a top 20 all-time player (http://i67.tinypic.com/dbntvp.jpg)... :whatever:

And Hornacek was at 20 ppg and 6-7 apg player in his prime - he averaged 5.8 apg for an 8 year span (88-94')..

Whereas Klay averages like 1 apg and is just a robotic shooter

[tontoz]

Do his 9 All- NBA first team defense awards count?:rolleyes:

[sd3035]

Pippen was the real MVP :applause: :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

That does it, Jordan is no longer top 3. Top 5 even seems a stretch.

[tontoz]

Pippen was the real MVP :applause: :applause:

Please pippen was a weak shooter from everywhere outside 3 feet and could frequently disappear in the playoffs.

[sd3035]

That does it, Jordan is no longer top 3. Top 5 even seems a stretch.

Probably lower top 10

Good scorer

[3ball]

Do his 9 All- NBA first team defense awards count?:rolleyes:
^^^^ How many did he get with the scoring title?

I'll wait

Or did he just focus on D??... and virtually NEVER command a double team .... And get half his measly 18 a game off the attention paid MJ????

Again, I'll wait..

[Uncle Drew]

Probably lower top 10

Good scorer
I think you're right. Glorified Jeff Malone.

[paksat]

Probably lower top 10

Good scorer

I'd put him in the lower 50s

[TheCorporation]

That does it, Jordan is no longer top 3. Top 5 even seems a stretch.

Makes sense. He's just a glorofied Carmello Anthony when you boil it down.

[jstern]

Oh, and MJ was required to do everything in the clutch, as teammates were instructed by Phil Jackson to "leave Michael all alone":



Phil Jackson to teammates during 4th quarter of 91' Finals:

Don't leave Michael all alone here.. it's not time YET (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s)..


:bowdown:

:bowdown:

That's the kind of stuff that I love. Where a person reaches such a level that it's clear, there's no objection. That's a true sign of an absolute best. Few players reach such a level.

[TheCorporation]

I'd put him in the lower 50s
MJ is #2 in points and #10 in eFG% so hes not THAT bad yikes

[LeCola]

Wow, man I saw that photo first in my life, what a thread. :wtf:

[Da_Realist]

Can anyone explain this picture

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg

Lame. MJ outscored Pip by 14 per game while matching him in every other category. Except for rebounding, they are only separated by a few tenths of a point per game.

[bigkingsfan]

Can anyone explain this picture

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg
Legoat led both teams in all stats :eek:

[superduper]

Jordan is close in everything except rebounding and he's the GOAT scorer in history by a lightyear.

How you interpret that in whatever way you're interpreting it is beyond me.

[3ball]

Legoat led both teams in all stats :eek:
He led the most important category by 2 ppg

MJ led by 20 ppg in the 93' and 98' Finals, and 10-20 ppg for all Finals

So one guy had an equal scoring partner that commanded double-teams and closed, while the other guy was a 1-man show and closer

Night and day.. :sleeping

[paksat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYcjCoy7R4I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ylVQZvxhk

this is the great "leader" that was pippen

That year, the Bulls were a middle pack team and weren't going anywhere before MJ returned towards the end of the season.

anyways..

[TheCorporation]

Legoat led both teams in all stats :eek:

Baaaang!

[TheCorporation]

Jordan is close in everything except rebounding and he's the GOAT scorer in history by a lightyear.

How you interpret that in whatever way you're interpreting it is beyond me.

6911 > 5987

Yikes

[72-10]

topic ban, the type of topic i'd expect to proliferate this bored in a virulent no less volatile fashion from someone who started watching the L in 92. Look at me, sounding like the public defender.

[LostCause]

3ball ethered OP

RiP

[Jasper]

I saw those games. Jordan was clearly the GOAT. Best player on the floor.
me too and it was the best tandem in bball:applause:

[Gileraracer]

Can anyone explain this picture

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg

Lol @these desperate retards. It's not that Pippen was that far in front in these stats.

3% more assists
11% more steals
18% more blocks
21% more rebounds