The West is WEAK

[StrongLurk]

Honestly, the West has not been a strong conference since KD joined the Warriors in 2017.

Warriors are down Cousins, KD, and Iggy for this last game and they still beat their competition in the WCF (SWEPT overall).

The West is Weak.

[talkingconch]

No

[The Iron Fist]

Doesn

[StrongLurk]

No

Only when the Warriors have had injuries have other teams had a chance...

[FKAri]

They were good last year. This year it's a shit show though.

[talkingconch]

Only when the Warriors have had injuries have other teams had a chance...
Its just that the Warriors have talent better than the rest of the league, its not that the West is Weak. If they were playing in the East?...They would 12-1 there way to the finals. the Spurs (as the 8th seed) > whatever team was 8th in the East

[sammichoffate]

Lol, almost every team needed 50 wins to get in you wanker

[StrongLurk]

Its just that the Warriors have talent better than the rest of the league, its not that the West is Weak. If they were playing in the East?...They would 12-1 there way to the finals. the Spurs (as the 8th seed) > whatever team was 8th in the East

The East is weak as well...the West doesn't do any better against the Warriors.

[DocSlam]

Clippers are tough. They just don't have enough consistent shooting. They play defense and they rebound.

[TheCorporation]

It's been weak for a while

I agree

[fiddy]

It's been weak for a while

I agree
We're talking about the present, TheGayporation.

[tontoz]

Clippers had to win 48 games to get the 8th seed.

Detroit made the playoffs with 41.

[Wally450]

When your champion wins the conference 5 straight times, what does that say about the conference?

[superduper]

LeGOAT missed the playoffs in the weakest West in the last 20 years. Imagine if Bran was in the peak Wild Wild West :roll:

[FKAri]

Clippers had to win 48 games to get the 8th seed.

Detroit made the playoffs with 41.
No one cares about 40 win teams. What matters is the 76ers and Celtics > Blazers

[Wa88iors]

Honestly, the West has not been a strong conference since KD joined the Warriors in 2017.

Warriors are down Cousins, KD, and Iggy for this last game and they still beat their competition in the WCF (SWEPT overall).

The West is Weak.

:dancin : Trollin'....trollin', trolling down the river....

:violin:

[And1AllDay]

Warriors only competition in 5 years has been from the East :eek:

The 17' Warriors 12-0'd the weak west but luckily the thicc east was able to stop that freight train from going 16-0 for another landslide record.

In 2015 the East without Kyrie or Love was able to win 2 games
In 2016 well yeah you know :pimp:
In 2017 see above
In 2019 we see their path to Finals is Clippers, Rockets, and Blazers

:wtf:

[Gileraracer]

The West is WEAK - what does this say about LeMissedPlayoffs?

[ImKobe]

No one cares about 40 win teams. What matters is the 76ers and Celtics > Blazers

Blazers, Clippers, Spurs & Nuggets could have beat the Sixers, Raptors or Celtics in a series. Rockets would be favorites against Milwaukee. Nuggets - Bucks would also be a tough match-up.

[tontoz]

No one cares about 40 win teams. What matters is the 76ers and Celtics > Blazers


Celtics are dysfunctional. Philly is heavily dependent on Embids health and they have their own chemistry issues.

I see no reason to think they would beat Portland in a series.

[Indian guy]

This idiot never fails to outdo his prior stupid thread :facepalm

It took 48 wins just to make the playoffs in the West. 2 legit powerhouses at the top of the conference in GS and Houston. 14 of the 15 teams were genuinely competitive teams that you would have to play well against to beat. Which is simply unheard of.

The West was better than EVER in its history this season.

[ErhnamDjinn]

Clippers are tough. They just don't have enough consistent shooting. They play defense and they rebound.
I like the way the clips are built they just need maybe 1 or 2 more pcs. to compete.

[TheCorporation]

Warriors only competition in 5 years has been from the East :eek:

The 17' Warriors 12-0'd the weak west but luckily the thicc east was able to stop that freight train from going 16-0 for another landslide record.

In 2015 the East without Kyrie or Love was able to win 2 games
In 2016 well yeah you know :pimp:
In 2017 see above
In 2019 we see their path to Finals is Clippers, Rockets, and Blazers

:wtf:

Yikes :eek:

[tontoz]

Last year GS had only 1 sweep, in the Finals. Houston took them to 7 games.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

GSW are just that good.

Want to know how tough the west is? Ask Lebron.

[aj1987]

GSW are just that good.

Want to know how tough the west is? Ask Lebron.
The Blazers are trash bro. Heck, the Lakers would've definitely taken these Warriors to 6.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The Blazers are trash bro. Heck, the Lakers would've definitely taken these Warriors to 6.

Most teams under these rules will look like trash vs GSW.

There are a few exceptions though.

I think Milwaukee has enough shooting and length to make the finals competitive. Their defense is great as well.

[TheCorporation]

Last year GS had only 1 sweep, in the Finals. Houston took them to 7 games.

2015?
2016?
2017?

:lol

[dunksby]

Clippers are dogged and the Rockets are a perennial finals team in the east, it's only the Blazers who shat the bed, if Jokic had a consistent 2nd option the WCF would have been a whole different story.

[StrongLurk]

This idiot never fails to outdo his prior stupid thread :facepalm

It took 48 wins just to make the playoffs in the West. 2 legit powerhouses at the top of the conference in GS and Houston. 14 of the 15 teams were genuinely competitive teams that you would have to play well against to beat. Which is simply unheard of.

The West was better than EVER in its history this season.

Hell no :roll:

[tontoz]

2015?
2016?
2017?

:lol

The West wins more games than the east literally every year.

2017 Boston led the east with 53 wins :oldlol:

2016 The Spurs won 10 more games than the Cavs (who led the east) but finished 2nd in the West.

2015 Brooklyn made the playoffs with 38 wins. :lol

[StrongLurk]

We just saw the WCF opponent get swept by a team missing Durant/Cousins and Iggy for game 4...that's WEAK.

[tontoz]

We just saw the WCF opponent get swept by a team missing Durant/Cousins and Iggy for game 4...that's WEAK.


That doesn't mean Portland wouldn't have beaten the dysfunctional Celtics and Sixers.

[StrongLurk]

That doesn't mean Portland wouldn't have beaten the dysfunctional Celtics and Sixers.

Basically Durant ruined the integrity of the league.

All Durant had to do was not compete against the Warriors for the Warriors to have zero challengers.

Imagine if Kobe joined the early 2000 Spurs after losing to them in the playoffs...

[bullettooth]

What kind of bullshit thread is this? The West is weak? So weak the GLOAT couldn't even make the playoffs?

Where's LeBron.. shouldn't he be on his way to a 9th finals appearance??

[tontoz]

Basically Durant ruined the integrity of the league.

All Durant had to do was not compete against the Warriors for the Warriors to have zero challengers.

Imagine if Kobe joined the early 2000 Spurs after losing to them in the playoffs...

If you want to say Durant made a btch move I agree.

But he started in the west and stayed in the west, which is the stronger conference and has been for a long time.

[FKAri]

Last year GS had only 1 sweep, in the Finals. Houston took them to 7 games.
West definitely > East last year. No argument there (unless I'm swinging off of LeGOAT's nut sack {which I often am}). But I stand by my comment about the Blazers this year.

[Naero]

It speaks more reflectively about the Warriors than it does about their intraconference competition; I don't see how that's far-fetched to believe, considering they've vanquished their Finals competition just as convincingly as, if not more than, everyone they faced en route to it.

Many of you somehow continue to undercredit this dynasty, who even great teams

[StrongLurk]

What kind of bullshit thread is this? The West is weak? So weak the GLOAT couldn't even make the playoffs?

Where's LeBron.. shouldn't he be on his way to a 9th finals appearance??

Yes the West is weak.

The conference is FULL of pretenders besides the obvious Warriors.

[TheCorporation]

Basically Durant ruined the integrity of the league.

All Durant had to do was not compete against the Warriors for the Warriors to have zero challengers.

Imagine if Kobe joined the early 2000 Spurs after losing to them in the playoffs...

Bingo

[TheCorporation]

The West wins more games than the east literally every year.

2017 Boston led the east with 53 wins :oldlol:

2016 The Spurs won 10 more games than the Cavs (who led the east) but finished 2nd in the West.

2015 Brooklyn made the playoffs with 38 wins. :lol

You are obviously missing my clearly Illustrated point. The only time the Warriors faced resistance was against eastern team during those three years

2015, 2016, 2017

[tontoz]

Yes the West is weak.

The conference is FULL of pretenders besides the obvious Warriors.


Why does the West win more games than the East every year?

252-198 this year.

[StrongLurk]

Why does the West win more games than the East every year?

252-198 this year.

Did I say the something to the contrary?

[bullettooth]

Did I say the something to the contrary?

Stop trolling.

[tontoz]

You are obviously missing my clearly Illustrated point. The only time the Warriors faced resistance was against eastern team during those three years

2015, 2016, 2017

:facepalm

2015

The Cavs lasted 5 games. I don't see that as resistance. Houston lasted 5 and Memphis lasted 6.

I will concede Warriors had luck on their side that year with other teams having injuries.

2016

7 game series against OKC they easily could have lost. I think that counts as resistance.

They didn't sweep anyone that year.

They lost the Finals with a hobbled Curry and suspended Green.

2017

They lost only 1 game in the postseason. They got no resistance from anyone.

[tontoz]

Did I say the something to the contrary?

You said the West is weak. What does that make the East since they were dominated?

[StrongLurk]

You said the West is weak. What does that make the East since they were dominated?

You are stating the obvious. What people don't want to admit is that the West is weak as well IN RELATION TO COMPETING WITH THE WARRIORS.

It's been a one team league for a long time now.

I do believe however that Raptors and Bucks are > The Blazers.

[ArbitraryWater]

There are 2 great teams: GSW, HOU

Utah comes next.


Rest is trash. Honestly. No factors. A peaky OKC is relevant, but no one else.

[ArbitraryWater]

No one cares about 40 win teams. What matters is the 76ers and Celtics > Blazers

bingo.

Top heavyness matters.

East's 3 and 4 >>> West's 3

[TheCorporation]

:facepalm

2015

The Cavs lasted 5 games. I don't see that as resistance. Houston lasted 5 and Memphis lasted 6.

I will concede Warriors had luck on their side that year with other teams having injuries.

2016

7 game series against OKC they easily could have lost. I think that counts as resistance.

They didn't sweep anyone that year.

They lost the Finals with a hobbled Curry and suspended Green.

2017

They lost only 1 game in the postseason. They got no resistance from anyone.

:lol uhh What is this Backwards Day?

2015: first off the series went 6 games. Secondly, LeBron was without his number two and number three option and still stretched it to six games.

2016: you're an idiot for even trying to bring this one up :lol this is only playoff series they've lost in five years so don't be a complete retard.

2017: 12-0 verse Western teams.

Western teams played 12 games with 0 wins. The East got one win after 3 games. Not sure how much more explaining this needs?

[tontoz]

:lol uhh What is this Backwards Day?

2015: first off the series went 6 games. Secondly, LeBron was without his number two and number three option and still stretched it to six games.

2016: you're an idiot for even trying to bring this one up :lol this is only playoff series they've lost in five years so don't be a complete retard.

2017: 12-0 verse Western teams.

Western teams played 12 games with 0 wins. The East got one win after 3 games. Not sure how much more explaining this needs?


You are going to have to define what you mean by "resistance".

Is a 5 game series considered resistance? 6 games? 7 games?

It seems like you have different criteria for teams in the East vs West. You count a 5 game series as resistance when facing the East but a 6 or 7 game series against the West doesn't count as resistance.

Looks a bit inconsistent.

[tontoz]

You are stating the obvious. What people don't want to admit is that the West is weak as well IN RELATION TO COMPETING WITH THE WARRIORS.

It's been a one team league for a long time now.

I do believe however that Raptors and Bucks are > The Blazers.


That doesn't mean the West is weak. It just means the Warriors are great and I agree.

[TheCorporation]

You are going to have to define what you mean by "resistance".

Is a 5 game series considered resistance? 6 games? 7 games?

It seems like you have different criteria for teams in the East vs West.

Jesus, really?

Did the Warriors face more resistance from the west or the east in the following three years:

2015, 2016, 2017

Yes of course we both know the answer but you're just trolling

[tontoz]

Jesus, really?

Did the Warriors face more resistance from the west or the east in the following three years:

2015, 2016, 2017

Yes of course we both know the answer but you're just trolling


Maybe I should step aside and let you argue with yourself.


The only time the Warriors faced resistance was against eastern team during those three years

2015, 2016, 2017

[TheCorporation]

Maybe I should step aside and let you argue with yourself.

Did the Warriors face more resistance from the west or the east in the following three years:

2015, 2016, 2017

Yes of course we both know the answer but you're just trolling

[tontoz]

Did the Warriors face more resistance from the west or the east in the following three years:

2015, 2016, 2017

Yes of course we both know the answer but you're just trolling


:oldlol:


Originally Posted by TheCorporation

The only time the Warriors faced resistance was against eastern team during those three years

2015, 2016, 2017

[3ball]

the only time a bunch of KNOWN weak teams won a conference and got crushed in the Finals was when AI, Kidd, Lebron, and Dwight made the Finals with weak teams between 2001-2009 and got destroyed in the Finals..

There's never been another time where a bunch of teams that everyone knew were weak, made the Finals and got smashed (confirming their weakness and the conference's)

But even though a strong team wasn't needed to make the Finals, lebron's couldn't make it in 09 and 10', and stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in the weak conference... Now that he's gone, we're back to non-star teams winning the East as Kawhi and Giannis don't have any superstar teammates like lebron had the last 8 years

[TheCorporation]

the only time a bunch of KNOWN weak teams won a conference and got crushed in the Finals was when AI, Kidd, Lebron, and Dwight made the Finals with weak teams between 2001-2009 and got destroyed in the Finals..

There's never been another time where a bunch of teams that everyone knew were weak, made the Finals and got smashed (confirming their weakness and the conference's)

But even though a strong team wasn't needed to make the Finals, lebron's couldn't make it in 09 and 10', and stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in the weak conference... Now we're back to non-star teams winning the East as Kawhi and Giannis don't have any super star teammates like lebron had the last 8 years


Anyone missing? :lol

https://i.postimg.cc/25VW4wJ5/Screenshot-20190521-130250-Instagram.jpg

[3ball]

Anyone missing? :lol

https://i.postimg.cc/25VW4wJ5/Screenshot-20190521-130250-Instagram.jpg
:confusedshrug:.... MJ almost matched that in 3 game series

:oldlol:


How many 40 ppg series for any of those guys? I'll wait

[Spurs m8]

The West isn't weak, the Warriors are just too strong you moron hahahha

[StrongLurk]

the only time a bunch of KNOWN weak teams won a conference and got crushed in the Finals was when AI, Kidd, Lebron, and Dwight made the Finals with weak teams between 2001-2009 and got destroyed in the Finals..

There's never been another time where a bunch of teams that everyone knew were weak, made the Finals and got smashed (confirming their weakness and the conference's)

But even though a strong team wasn't needed to make the Finals, lebron's couldn't make it in 09 and 10', and stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in the weak conference... Now that he's gone, we're back to non-star teams winning the East as Kawhi and Giannis don't have any superstar teammates like lebron had the last 8 years

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Lebronze

This order is the law of the universe. Simply physics.

[tontoz]

Fair point. First round was 5 games in Jordan's day.

[TheCorporation]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Lebronze

This order is the law of the universe. Simply physics.


Swap LordBron and Fraudon and you have a deal

[TheCorporation]

:confusedshrug:.... MJ almost matched that in 3 game series

:oldlol:


How many 40 ppg series for any of those guys? I'll wait

Rebs?
Assists?
Steals?
Blocks?

And should we even mention defense :eek:

MJ was a scorer thats it

[LostCause]

Rebs?
Assists?
Steals?
Blocks?

And should we even mention defense :eek:

MJ was a scorer thats it

Scorer with higher defensive impact and success, career accolades, awards and reputation than Bronny Bron :lol

Do mention it. You won't be mentioning much for your boy though

[StrongLurk]

Swap LordBron and Fraudon and you have a deal

Relax

[TheCorporation]

Relax

Im relaxed

[StrongLurk]

Im relaxed

Jordan > Lebron

[bullettooth]

Rebs?
Assists?
Steals?
Blocks?

And should we even mention defense :eek:

MJ was a scorer thats it

https://i.postimg.cc/Gt7KCvCg/lebron-stats-or-rings.gif

[StrongLurk]

https://i.postimg.cc/Gt7KCvCg/lebron-stats-or-rings.gif

Lebron has both...this doesn't make sense.

[aj1987]

Most teams under these rules will look like trash vs GSW.

There are a few exceptions though.

I think Milwaukee has enough shooting and length to make the finals competitive. Their defense is great as well.
I'm not saying the West is trash, but the Blazers are beyond awful. The Sixers or even the freaking Nets would've played better against the Warriors. Lillard and CJ are god awful defenders and if they are cold, they bring nothing to the table. Neither of them are adept passers/playmakers.

As I said, the Lakers would've given them a tougher time than the Blazers.

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/Gt7KCvCg/lebron-stats-or-rings.gif


Do I need to find that pic again :(

[FKAri]

Do I need to find that pic again :(
https://i.postimg.cc/C5MF1xc3/bran2.gif

:cheers:

[NBAGOAT]

I'm not saying the West is trash, but the Blazers are beyond awful. The Sixers or even the freaking Nets would've played better against the Warriors. Lillard and CJ are god awful defenders and if they are cold, they bring nothing to the table. Neither of them are adept passers/playmakers.

As I said, the Lakers would've given them a tougher time than the Blazers.

i disagree with the nets. I mean d'angelo is just as bad on defense and they're hugely reliant on him and dinwiddie and levert. He may be a better playmaker but he's not a top tier one.

Denver likely would've given the warriors more trouble but still lose clearly. I like jokic's chances of having a great series which should be enough to win a game. The Blazers have never matched up well with GS, even pre KD.

[bullettooth]

https://i.postimg.cc/C5MF1xc3/bran2.gif

:cheers:

6 finals losses negates that and you know it.

You're so desperate, you lie to yourself.

[tontoz]

The blazers had double digits leads in the last three games. Last night went to OT. Let's not pretend these games were a cakewalk.

[Spurs m8]

Lebron has both...this doesn't make sense.

He could have more rings than Jordan if he didn't sacrifice rings for stats.

Fvck, you're a daft cvnt hahahah

[3ball]

We all know if LeBron were on either of those teams, you'd be hyping the SHIT out of them :lol

Middleton/Lopez/Bledsoe/Mirotic or Lowry/Siakam/Gasol/Ibaka would then become stacked rosters. We'd see dozens of threads about how Middleton or Siakam were better than Pippen. You ain't fooling anybody


^^^ But that's what you're ignoring - we can't say "if" because he already failed to do what Giannis is doing in 09' and 10'..

he had his chance with non-star, 60-win, 1 seeds........ and failed twice, quitting in 10'... so he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs..

That's why you can't say "if", as if we can just replace guys here and there willy nilly.. Lebron HAD his chance and failed, so he stacked the deck for 8 years - but now he's gone, and order is restored with 1-star teams romping to the Finals like Lebron failed to do in 09' and 10'

A star cast hasn't been needed to win the East since 98', except for Lebron's sabatoge from 11-18', and a couple other more one-off or two-off instances

Unfortunately, people ignore these facts, and are then shocked when the West exposed him..
.

[NBAGOAT]

the west was like a better 16 east this year but also had some bad luck. Hou should've done better than the rs because of injuries but were still considered a heavyweight so it's fine. Hou is obviously better than the 16 raptors still so rs win total isnt a big deal. I dont really feel that way about the other teams however even though 3 had 50+ and 3 more were around that total. It's all subjective however. You think OKC will one day figure it out with their big 3, people certainly predicted them to be great

The East was like a worst 16 west with the top tier teams but poor depth outside the top 4. even with the poor showing bos had, I think I take them over portland especially without nurkic. Obviously philly arent as good as the thunder and mil isnt as dominant as gs was but there's a similar hierarchy

[FKAri]

6 finals losses negates that and you know it.

You're so desperate, you lie to yourself.
Making the Finals will never negate anything. No matter how weak a conference is. :oldlol:

[3ball]

Making the Finals will never negate anything. No matter how weak a conference is. :oldlol:
Giannis is making the Finals with a non-star, 1 seed - Lebron failed to do this in 09' and 10', so he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs

but now he's gone, and order is restored with 1-star teams romping to the Finals like Lebron failed to do in 09' and 10'

A star cast hasn't been needed to win the East since 98', except for Lebron's sabatoge from 11-18', and a couple one-off or two-off instances

Unfortunately, people ignore these facts, and then are shocked when the West exposed him..

[bullettooth]

Making the Finals will never negate anything. No matter how weak a conference is. :oldlol:

Why do you lie?

[tontoz]

Making the Finals will never negate anything. No matter how weak a conference is. :oldlol:

I typically try to stay out of this nonsense but I really don't get how making the finals and losing is worse than losing in earlier rounds.

:confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

i disagree with the nets. I mean d'angelo is just as bad on defense and they're hugely reliant on him and dinwiddie and levert. He may be a better playmaker but he's not a top tier one.

Denver likely would've given the warriors more trouble but still lose clearly. I like jokic's chances of having a great series which should be enough to win a game. The Blazers have never matched up well with GS, even pre KD.
Did you watch the series? Lillard, at times, was either scarred to take the shot, or he was just trigger happy. Dude put his low IQ on display for the whole world. Lost a ton of respect for him.

[FKAri]

Giannis is making the Finals with a non-star, 1 seed - Lebron failed to do this in 09' and 10', so he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs

but now he's gone, and order is restored with 1-star teams romping to the Finals like Lebron failed to do in 09' and 10'

A star cast hasn't been needed to win the East since 98', except for Lebron's sabatoge from 11-18', and a couple one-off or two-off instances

Unfortunately, people ignore these facts, and then are shocked when the West exposed him..
1-star team? Is basketball really so black and white to you? 76ers are a multiple star team. As are the Raptors. And yet the Bucks are primed to get into the Finals.

[3ball]

I typically try to stay out of this nonsense but I really don't get how making the finals and losing is worse than losing in earlier rounds.

:confusedshrug:
It isn't worse, it's just worse than winning the Finals

making the Finals is just winning the conference finals.. it's a whole nother level to win the championship

And btw, it can be perceived as worse if you're a high seed and get swept by record amount or if you lose as the favorite.. Anytime you get destroyed or upset with a Finals team, you deserve heat

[SpaceJam2]

It isn't worse, it's just worse than winning the Finals

9 Finals is just 9 conference finals wins.. it's a whole nother level to win the championship

Why did MJ only make it to the Finals 6 times :(

All the other top 10 players made it more times.

[NBAGOAT]

Did you watch the series? Lillard, at times, was either scarred to take the shot, or he was just trigger happy. Dude put his low IQ on display for the whole world. Lost a ton of respect for him.

eh he's always had bad shot selection and made more than most. I'm taking him over d'angelo all day however lol

[3ball]

1-star team? Is basketball really so black and white to you? 76ers are a multiple star team. As are the Raptors. And yet the Bucks are primed to get into the Finals.
Middleton is worse than Mo Williams and Jamison by every metric - they're all low level all-stars... Varejao was all-defense in 2010, so he's greater than 19' Ibaka or whatever role player you named

And you're splitting hairs on word choice, so I'll define what I'm saying

By "star", I mean "superstar", as in HOF-level (i.e. high HOF probability on bballref)

Only a biased person would consider Middleton a star or superstar like Love or Bosh were, let alone Wade or Kyrie

Middleton and Lowry aren't superstars - Wade, Love, Kyrie, Bosh are and likely HOF's



1-star team? Is basketball really so black and white to you? 76ers are a multiple star team. As are the Raptors. And yet the Bucks are primed to get into the Finals.
Again, Giannis is making the Finals with a non-superstar, 1 seed - Lebron failed to do this in 09' and 10', so he stacked the deck from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs

but now he's gone, and order is restored with 1-star teams romping to the Finals like Lebron failed to do in 09' and 10'

A star cast hasn't been needed to win the East since 98', except for Lebron's sabatoge from 11-18', and a couple one-off or two-off instances

Unfortunately, people ignore these facts, and then are shocked when the West exposed him..

[aj1987]

eh he's always had bad shot selection and made more than most. I'm taking him over d'angelo all day however lol
Yeah, no shit, but I'm saying that the Nets would've given them (Warriors) more competition than the shitty Blazers. As a team.

[SouBeachTalents]

I typically try to stay out of this nonsense but I really don't get how making the finals and losing is worse than losing in earlier rounds.

:confusedshrug:
They're legit trying to argue that it's worse to win a trash conference than it is to lose to a team from that said conference. The argument is so retarded it's beyond comprehension :lol

[Big164]

LeGOAT missed the playoffs in the weakest West in the last 20 years. Imagine if Bran was in the peak Wild Wild West :roll:
This

[E_Stamkos]

Im relaxed

Is your butthole relaxed though?

<3