Kemba and Lillard now supermax eligible but Klay and Beal are not.

[Kblaze8855]

Warriors and Wizards must be happy. They missed out by a few votes. Rudy Gobert next year is eligible if he wins DPOY now(DPOY gives you two years of eligibility) or is all nba again next year. To get you either must be all NBA the summer you can sign...or have been for the 2 years before that summer(Meaning if you made it in 17 and 18 you can miss it this year...or you can just make it this year with no previous makes). Doesnt have to be your FA season...just one year away from before your FA season...which is why Gobert with 2 years left can lock up the option for next summer now....but the contract wont kick in for a while after that(like how Wall signed 2 years ago but doesnt get the supermax money till next year).

Next year Giannis can get 247 million.



Thats really what the all nba teams are about for the players/agents.


Im...not sure the Hornets will pay Kemba a supermax deal.

Damian deserves it I suppose though it makes it hard to improve.

I wouldnt wanna pay it to Gobert next year but they might have to if they dont wanna risk him walking.

Guys want the leverage even if they intend to stay. If youre like Kemba it gives you a good excuse to walk if they dont offer it now that they can.

You know the Warriors were secretly rooting against Klay. He cant get the big 220+ million deal even though hes two time all NBA because it wasnt 2 of the last 3 years or this year. Makes it easier to offer all you can without that painful conversation that makes people spiteful.

[Doranku]

Let 'em walk. A team that supermaxes a player like Kemba or Lillard isn't winning shit. That's just the cold hard reality.

[FKAri]

Let 'em walk. A team that supermaxes a player like Kemba or Lillard isn't winning shit. That's just the cold hard reality.
Portland will do it for sure.
If they don't do it, they'll look cheap and no one will want to come there. They'll never win.
If they do it, they won't win anything this decade.

[Kblaze8855]

Let 'em walk. A team that supermaxes a player like Kemba or Lillard isn't winning shit. That's just the cold hard reality.


Is that any different from if they dont?

Guess it comes down to how much you wanna value the appearance of loyalty.

Those teams max out at losing after a good playoff run either way.

The Hornets especially. They can give Kemba 200+ million or not.....still winning nothing.

[tontoz]

It's a relief for us. If Beal got the supermax then we could have been the first team (I think) in the lottery with 2 supermax deals.

[NBAGOAT]

i'm really not sure charlotte gives kemba the supermax. They shouldnt but they've made worse moves. I think it's more likely he just gets 4yrs 140 from someone else which is ok.

They should really make the supermax not count against the cap for drafted players like dame. It just hurts teams trying to keep their stars too much

[Shogon]

Max salaries being determined based on arbitrarily decided media awards is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen.

[Haymaker]

Klay will take whatever is thrown at him by Lacob. He's a good dog and will be content to stay in SF. Beal should be looking elsewhere for the sake of his career. Washington is a black hole, the team should be contracted IMO.

[Heavincent]

Supermaxing Kemba or Gobert (LOL) is a good way to cripple your team for the foreseeable future. Only transcendent superstars in their prime are truly worth it.

Gobert in particular would be a joke. Imagine giving that much money to a ****ing rim protector with no offensive game :roll:

[Draz]

Portland will do it for sure.
If they don't do it, they'll look cheap and no one will want to come there. They'll never win.
If they do it, they won't win anything this decade.
No one's going there anyway with that contract

[tontoz]

Klay will take whatever is thrown at him by Lacob. He's a good dog and will be content to stay in SF. Beal should be looking elsewhere for the sake of his career. Washington is a black hole, the team should be contracted IMO.


We got rid of our incompetent GM who somehow managed to keep his job for 16 years with a dismal track record.

The market is fine but the management has been a disaster
We haven't had 50 wins since 1979.:(

[RoseCity07]

Seeing as Lillard is better than both those players it makes sense.

I wish these contracts weren't so ridiculous. As far as the cap goes it doesn't matter. Portland never gets free agents that are worth big money.


Lillard just made the WCFs with 0 all-star help. Literally no one on the team has ever made an all-star game.

Klay getting snubbed is absurd.

[Heavincent]

At least Lillard always gets his team in the playoffs in the West. Kemba can’t even crack 40 wins in the shitty east.

Klay is better than Kemba. Give me a big wing with GOAT level shooting and good defense over a midget with questionable efficiency.

Only players who truly deserve a super max are Curry, KD, Kawhi, and Giannis. Guys like Jokic and Harden are a stretch but not totally absurd. And AD too.

[Pushxx]

[QUOTE=Shogon]Max salaries being determined based on arbitrarily decided media awards is one of the dumbest things I

[Phenith]

[QUOTE=Shogon]Max salaries being determined based on arbitrarily decided media awards is one of the dumbest things I

[talkingconch]

can't fault either the player or team. players want more money while teams want them for less

[Kblaze8855]

This. Not sure how that didn't come up during CBA negotiations, but WOW... better be nice to the media if your in line for a super max.

How else could you decide? All star games fans can ruin?

Stats?

If they just make everyone eligible that

[And1AllDay]

can't fault either the player or team. players want more money while teams want them for less

Its called incentive to play better

stay in school my lil homie

[Smoke117]

Let 'em walk. A team that supermaxes a player like Kemba or Lillard isn't winning shit. That's just the cold hard reality.

If you're the Blazers you basically have to do it with Lillard. There is absolutely no incentive for the Hornets to do it with Kemba, though.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I remember some Pacer fans wanted PG on All-NBA and Jazz fans hoped Hayward got it so that they would have to reject the enormous difference the supermax makes for a free agent staying or leaving. Hornet fans could be in the same boat with Walker as they're not a particularly good situation for him so if they can't offer a lot more money he could easily bolt for NY or LA.

If Beal is a different case he must just feel unusual loyalty as it'll be a major victory most seasons just to make the 8th seed in Washington. Hard to see another reason why he wouldn't take a deal from a team in a big market where he could make more off the court or somewhere they have stars that he can experience postseason success with. He's the level of talent that could make or miss the Hall after his career and it will have had everything to do with the guys around him and that ability or inability to make memories in the playoffs.

[FireDavidKahn]

Bobcats now paying Kemba, Batum, Biyombo, MKG, Marvin Williams + Cody Zellar a combined $123 million next season.

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[NBASTATMAN]

Lillard is worth it .. Klay got screwed and is the second best SG in the league because he brings it on defense. Beal is a good player but any team that maxes him out are stupid.. And Kemba is a guy that MJ may have throw 28-32 million a year at because he needs to sell seats.. But Kemba isnt going to make any team a title contender..

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kemba isnt going to make any team a title contender..He won't do that for the Hornets but if the Knicks get KD and somehow fill the line-up with staunch defenders Walker could make a team like that go from just being good to being the best in the East.

[warriorfan]

Warriors weren

[Smoke117]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Warriors weren

[Real Men Wear Green]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Warriors weren

[warriorfan]

Yes they werE

And you are gonna quit drinking tomorrow too huh

[warriorfan]

If true they are lucky he isn't eligible because a lot of players get their pride hurt by offers less than hat team can do. If he's wise he knows that there isn't a better possible situation from a standpoint of winning but players do get jealous.

Definitely true. It’s a little different with Klay though, it comes off that he doesn’t have as much of an ego as other guys in his position. He knows he’s in a great place right now and are in the progress of doing something special. I’m sure he would understand and take a deal less than supermax and not be all bent out of shape about it.

[Smoke117]

And you are gonna quit drinking tomorrow too huh

The only way he wasn't getting the super max if eligible is he decided to take less.

[Kblaze8855]

They 100% would have offered it if only so they didnt look like the reason the dynasty broke up if Klay went to LA or NY. Gotta be able to say you did all you could. The Warriors would be ok without Klay...but lose Klay and KD? Nah.

Every team in the NBA would offer him the most they could. If another team could supermax him they would do it just to weaken the Warriors and open up the league.

[Kblaze8855]

Oh and apparently KAT lost some money yesterday. If he made third team the deal he signed a year ago bumps up by 30+ million.

And its said Lillard will sign the 4 year 191 this summer instead of waiting for the 5 year 220 million next year.

[FireDavidKahn]

Warriors and Wizards must be happy. They missed out by a few votes. Rudy Gobert next year is eligible if he wins DPOY now(DPOY gives you two years of eligibility) or is all nba again next year. To get you either must be all NBA the summer you can sign...or have been for the 2 years before that summer(Meaning if you made it in 17 and 18 you can miss it this year...or you can just make it this year with no previous makes). Doesnt have to be your FA season...just one year away from before your FA season...which is why Gobert with 2 years left can lock up the option for next summer now....but the contract wont kick in for a while after that(like how Wall signed 2 years ago but doesnt get the supermax money till next year).

Next year Giannis can get 247 million.



Thats really what the all nba teams are about for the players/agents.


Im...not sure the Hornets will pay Kemba a supermax deal.

Damian deserves it I suppose though it makes it hard to improve.

I wouldnt wanna pay it to Gobert next year but they might have to if they dont wanna risk him walking.

Guys want the leverage even if they intend to stay. If youre like Kemba it gives you a good excuse to walk if they dont offer it now that they can.

You know the Warriors were secretly rooting against Klay. He cant get the big 220+ million deal even though hes two time all NBA because it wasnt 2 of the last 3 years or this year. Makes it easier to offer all you can without that painful conversation that makes people spiteful.
Gobert has already qualified for the supermax.


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Because Rudy Gobert won defensive player of the year last year and was named to an All-NBA team this year, he joins Giannis Antetokounmpo, Damian Lillard and Kemba Walker as qualifying for the supermax. Gobert can sign a supermax extension next summer.


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The NBA will allow a player to combine DPOY and All-NBA when factoring in if he met the criteria. Gobert met the criteria and is eligible for a five-year $247.3M extension.

[Kblaze8855]

Shiiiit. Jazz either have to piss him off or....be rational. Rational right?

Gotta be rational....

[brooks_thompson]

Yeah, I have to think that if one organization just came out and took the stance and said 'We don't give the supermax no matter who you are. It hurts our ability to build a championship team around player x.' that this mess would soon be over. And hopefully it is fixed in the next CBA with the extra not counting towards the cap.

Plus, a player isn't really proving anything by going to another team if they don't get a supermax offer...another team can't offer him that amount. Either you like your situation enough and stay for the regular max, or you truly wanted out anyway so go somewhere else to get paid.

[brooks_thompson]

I don't feel much sympathy for Klay getting pissed at no selection because he was simply awful for half the season. He may be 'better' than a couple of those guards but simple fact is he didn't merit a selection this year.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Beal didn

[Cavs Fan]

I don't feel much sympathy for Klay getting pissed at no selection because he was simply awful for half the season. He may be 'better' than a couple of those guards but simple fact is he didn't merit a selection this year.

He was bad for like the first 10 games :rolleyes:

Oh boy those the 10 games hurt his rep though.

Amazing that a guy can get 22ppg on 40%+ shooting from three on nearly 8 attempts per game, while still playing elite defense and it's considered an off year for him. :oldlol: