Reality is Klay was all nba 6th team at best

[INDI]

Harden
Curry
Lillard
Kemba
Westbrook
Irving
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
Zach Lavigne
Deangelo Russell

All had better years than Klay

[MrFonzworth]

Zach LaVine?
Devine Booker?
DLo?

What the **** dude.

[Shogon]

OP... you're dumb.

[INDI]

Zach LaVine?
Devine Booker?
DLo?

What the **** dude.

Zach - 23.7 ppg, 4.7 rebs, 4.5 assts
Deangelo - 21.1 ppg, 3.9 rebs, 7.0 assts
Devin - 26.6 ppg, 4.1 rebs, 6.8 assts
Klay - 21.5 ppg, 3.8 rebs, 2.4 assts

Which one of these players did Klay have a better season than?

[INDI]

OP... you're dumb.

See above

[SouBeachTalents]

Zach LaVine - 23.7 ppg, 4.7 rebs, 4.5 assts
Deangelo Russell 21.1 ppg, 3.9 rebs, 7.0 assts
Devin Booker 26.6 ppg, 4.1 rebs, 6.8 assts
Klay Thompson 21.5 ppg, 3.8 rebs, 2.4 assts

Which one of these players did Klay have a better season than?
Are you really comparing players with the green light on awful teams to a guy who has to share the ball with 2 of the 5 best players in the league? One that's also significantly better on defense too? It's just an asinine comparison, Klay's situation is completely different from Booker or LaVine's

[And1AllDay]

Are you really comparing players with the green light on awful teams to a guy who has to share the ball with 2 of the 5 best players in the league? One that's also significantly better on defense too? It's just an asinine comparison, Klay's situation is completely different from Booker or LaVine's


/ t h r e a d

[INDI]

Are you really comparing players with the green light on awful teams to a guy who has to share the ball with 2 of the 5 best players in the league? One that's also significantly better on defense too? It's just an asinine comparison, Klay's situation is completely different from Booker or LaVine's

And your argument is that he should be ranked above them because he

[INDI]

You don

[And1AllDay]

[QUOTE=INDI]You don

[aj1987]

Harden
Curry
Lillard
Kemba
Westbrook
Irving
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
Zach Lavigne
Deangelo Russell

All had better years than Klay
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[INDI]

So you would take Booker, Lavine, and DLo over Klay?

Devin booker yes, the other two no sooner than I would take harden/Giannis over Durant/Lebron.

The tread is not about personal feeling but who had the best year so regardless of how you *feel* about a player or who

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=INDI]Devin booker yes, the other two no sooner than I would take harden/Giannis over Durant/Lebron.

The tread is not about personal feeling but who had the best year so regardless of how you *feel* about a player or who

[INDI]

So you would take Booker, Lavine, and DLo over Klay?

Will GSW be crowned champions if they lose to the Raptors/Bucks? No of course not. Will you say

[INDI]

:biggums:

You're letting personal feelings get in the way of facts. Do you think if Klay drops 70+ his team is losing? Klay is just a flat out better player than Booker, D-Lo, Zach, Kemba, etc..

Ignoring his 22 PPG for a second, the guy is also one of the best defenders in the league.

How am I letting personal feelings get in the way? Curry is my favorite player in the L so I watch them all the time. Klays a killer but I

[SouBeachTalents]

2001

Stackhouse: 30/4/5
Kobe: 29/6/5
Carter: 28/6/4
McGrady: 27/8/5
Allen: 22/5/5

You telling me Stackhouse had the best season of all these players? And should've been All-NBA over them?

[MrFonzworth]

Zach - 23.7 ppg, 4.7 rebs, 4.5 assts
Deangelo - 21.1 ppg, 3.9 rebs, 7.0 assts
Devin - 26.6 ppg, 4.1 rebs, 6.8 assts
Klay - 21.5 ppg, 3.8 rebs, 2.4 assts

Which one of these players did Klay have a better season than?
All of them dude. You cant just look at numbers and try to justify your claims through them without context. Bringing up ****ing rebounds? You serious:oldlol:

[bdonovan]

Harden
Curry
Lillard
Kemba
Westbrook
Irving
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
Zach Lavigne
Deangelo Russell

All had better years than Klay

All lists of this kind overvalue offense and devalue defense.

They also overvalue PPG versus eFG%.

The "experts" and those voting on All-NBA, MVP, FMVP generally do the same thing.

[INDI]

2001

Stackhouse: 30/4/5
Kobe: 29/6/5
Carter: 28/6/4
McGrady: 27/8/5
Allen: 22/5/5

You telling me Stackhouse had the best season of all these players? And should've been All-NBA over them?

Depends on his season. I watched the nba that season but don

[INDI]

All of them dude. You cant just look at numbers and try to justify your claims through them without context. Bringing up ****ing rebounds? You serious:oldlol:

Bruh rebounds mean something, where you been????

I only pulled the stats because someone said they had no claim over Klay. If you look st my first op I didn

[INDI]

All lists of this kind overvalue offense and devalue defense.

They also overvalue PPG versus eFG%.

The "experts" and those voting on All-NBA, MVP, FMVP generally do the same thing.
Klay has the lowest fg% out of the 4

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=INDI]How am I letting personal feelings get in the way? Curry is my favorite player in the L so I watch them all the time. Klays a killer but I

[warriorfan]

High iq shit from op

[ImKobe]

OP is right if we're being honest. Stats and eye test both showed me that Klay was underwhelming in this RS.

His defense wasn't that great and he had a terrible start to the season shooting-wise.

Some of these names are funny, but I could probably agree with everyone but Lavine and Russell.

[warriorfan]

OP is right if we're being honest. Stats and eye test both showed me that Klay was underwhelming in this RS.

His defense wasn't that great and he had a terrible start to the season shooting-wise.

Some of these names are funny, but I could probably agree with everyone but Lavine and Russell.

Being completely honest. How do you feel about some of his Finals performances?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Steph
Har_en
Lillard
Kyrie
Jrue
Kemba
Beal
Conley
Lowry
DMitch
maybe Chuckbrick

were all better guards so OP is technically correct just some wrong names

Jimmy is better when he plays the 2 as well but i guess hes a 3 now

[aj1987]

Steph
Har_en
Lillard
Kyrie
Jrue]
Kemba
Beal
Conley
Lowry
DMitch
maybe Chuckbrick

were all better guards so OP is technically correct just some wrong names

Jimmy is better when he plays the 2 as well but i guess hes a 3 now
Ignoring some of those other names on that list, how the **** were Mitchell and Lowry even close to being better than Klay?

How do some of you idiots manage to even survive?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Ignoring some of those other names on that list, how the **** were Mitchell and Lowry even close to being better than Klay?

How do some of you idiots manage to even survive?

Raptors were 17-5 when Kawhi didnt play. Lowry was a big part of that and was an 18/11/5/2 guy with good defense and great efficiency in those games. He also looked like the Raps best player for a long start of the season before the injury kept him out a while

DMitch had a slow start but in the last half of the season Jazz were 32-11 and he put up 27/5/5 on 45/41/82......maybe try watching some of these players next time:hammerhead:

[ImKobe]

Being completely honest. How do you feel about some of his Finals performances?

He wasn't that great in the first two Finals though he was one of the few Warriors who showed up in Games 5 and 6 in the 2016 Finals.

I feel like he puts up numbers whenever he gets enough 3PT attempts, like you'll see him drop 30 with 20 shot attempts and then have two-three games in a row with just 10 attempts.

[aj1987]

Raptors were 17-5 when Kawhi didnt play. Lowry was a big part of that and was an 18/11/5/2 guy with good defense and great efficiency in those games. He also looked like the Raps best player for a long start of the season before the injury kept him out a while

DMitch had a slow start but in the last half of the season Jazz were 32-11 and he put up 27/5/5 on 45/41/82......maybe try watching some of these players next time:hammerhead:
Oh, so we're using 22 game and half a season samples now?

Kyrie averaged 23/4/3/1/1 on 50/46/83 since the end of December, along with not just good, but great defense. For the season, he averaged 22/4/2/1/1 on 47/40/82 along with being an All-Def player. Neither of those two are even close to being as good as Klay.

[MrFonzworth]

Oh, so we're using 22 game and half a season samples now?

Kyrie averaged 23/4/3/1/1 on 50/46/83 since the end of December, along with not just good, but great defense. For the season, he averaged 22/4/2/1/1 on 47/40/82 along with being an All-Def player. Neither of those two are even close to being as good as Klay.
What are you doing dude? So obvious you dont watch basketball, you just google players and pull up numbers. Just stick to your usual schtick of calling anyone who ever has anything bad to say about lebron a fakkit and stay away from actual discussions to avoid further exposing yourself.

[INDI]

Oh, so we're using 22 game and half a season samples now?

Kyrie averaged 23/4/3/1/1 on 50/46/83 since the end of December, along with not just good, but great defense. For the season, he averaged 22/4/2/1/1 on 47/40/82 along with being an All-Def player. Neither of those two are even close to being as good as Klay.

You’re basketball analyzing skillset is on a 5th grade level. Let me address a few things and be done.

Y’all keep hollering about defense as if mvp is a defensive award. It’s not even a two way player award. There’s a reason why we have a Defensive player of the year award and not a offensive player of the year award, you know why? Because it’s called the MVP award. Mvp is and has always been based upon offensive production. If the player happens to be a great defensive player that’s just a plus but was not the reason the player was considered for the award.

Harden is less than mediocre on that side of the floor yet a mvp and a top two runner this year, Steve Nash is a two time mvp while a liability on D, Steph Curry, Magic Johnson etc. these guys are known for being average at best on that side of the court and definitely not lock down defenders yet no one blinks an eye at them having the award.
Why not guys like mutumbo, Bruce Bowen, serge ibaka, Patrick Beverley etc?? Because the focus of the award is almost 100% on the offensive side of the ball ( don’t come on here giving me any player that previously won defensive statistics because I guarantee they were great in the offensive side and that’s why they won. The D was just a bonus).

So spare me with the Klay being a two way player argument . That holds weight in the player comparison argument, ranking of whose better etc but it holds no weight in the all nba conversation which is offensively focused. Save that for the defensive all nba argument. Klays OFFENSE was left wanting this year therefore he didn’t make the list and wouldn’t have made it if their was a 4th or 5th team all nba

[aj1987]

What are you doing dude? So obvious you dont watch basketball, you just google players and pull up numbers. Just stick to your usual schtick of calling anyone who ever has anything bad to say about lebron a fakkit and stay away from actual discussions to avoid further exposing yourself.
I was literally having a basketball discussion and here you are having your usual **** fit like you're on your period, over a minor mistake. Just unplug your computer and never access the internet ever again. Better yet, jump off a cliff.


You’re basketball analyzing skillset is on a 5th grade level. Let me address a few things and be done.
You said Zach Lavine is a better basketball player than Klay Thompson. Have you ever watched a single minute of basketball in your entire life?


Y’all keep hollering about defense as if mvp is a defensive award. It’s not even a two way player award. There’s a reason why we have a Defensive player of the year award and not a offensive player of the year award, you know why? Because it’s called the MVP award. Mvp is and has always been based upon offensive production. If the player happens to be a great defensive player that’s just a plus but was not the reason the player was considered for the award.
Are you on any sort of medication of dementia? Who the **** is talking about MVP? I was saying that Klay is a better player than Zach, D-Lo, etc..


Harden is less than mediocre on that side of the floor yet a mvp and a top two runner this year, Steve Nash is a two time mvp while a liability on D, Steph Curry, Magic Johnson etc. these guys are known for being average at best on that side of the court and definitely not lock down defenders yet no one blinks an eye at them having the award.
Why not guys like mutumbo, Bruce Bowen, serge ibaka, Patrick Beverley etc?? Because the focus of the award is almost 100% on the offensive side of the ball ( don’t come on here giving me any player that previously won defensive statistics because I guarantee they were great in the offensive side and that’s why they won. The D was just a bonus).
Just ignoring your idiotic and nonsensical ramblings about MVP's for a second, let me address the second part. You think Mutombo, Bowen, Ibaka, Beverley, etc. are as good as Klay Thompson offensively? Klay is elite offensively AND defensively. None of those guys you mentioned are. Again, have you ever watched a single minute of basketball?


So spare me with the Klay being a two way player argument . That holds weight in the player comparison argument, ranking of whose better etc but it holds no weight in the all nba conversation which is offensively focused. Save that for the defensive all nba argument. Klays OFFENSE was left wanting this year therefore he didn’t make the list and wouldn’t have made it if their was a 4th or 5th team all nba
Now that we're back to All-NBA teams, the overall best players at their position make the All-NBA team. Yes, defense factors in as well.

Andre Drummond and KAT had significantly better numbers than Gobert. Why do you think they didn't make it and Gobert made it? That's because Gobert is a BETTER player than either of them.

With all that being said, voters also usually factor in team records when they vote for All-NBA player. Otherwise, if we're strictly going off of your criteria, Bradley Beal has better numbers than some of the ones who got in. KAT had overall better numbers than Jokic, Vucevic had better numbers than KAT, and Embiid had better numbers than Jokic.

People don't just look at PPG, RPG, and APG and hand out All-NBA team awards. Just like how voters don't just look at SPG and BPG while handing out All-Def awards.

[34-24 Footwork]

What are you doing dude? So obvious you dont watch basketball, you just google players and pull up numbers. Just stick to your usual schtick of calling anyone who ever has anything bad to say about lebron a fakkit and stay away from actual discussions to avoid further exposing yourself.

There's no way you're JUST NOW realizing this? :biggums:

[aj1987]

There's no way you're JUST NOW realizing this? :biggums:
Hey there, little one. Want to talk basketball? Lets address these first, shall we:

[INDI]

[QUOTE=aj1987]Hey there, little one. Want to talk basketball? Lets address these first, shall we:

[aj1987]

The reason I mentioned MVP is because all nba team is based on the same criteria.

Again why is there a defensive mvp as well as a All nba defensive team but not one for offense? Use your brain
Bro, you made a retarded thread and you got owned. Just hold the L and move on. SouBeach pretty much killed your thread with his post. Let it die.

EDIT: Also, from my previous post, since you obviously did not read it:

Now that we're back to All-NBA teams, the overall best players at their position make the All-NBA team. Yes, defense factors in as well.

Andre Drummond and KAT had significantly better numbers than Gobert. Why do you think they didn't make it and Gobert made it? That's because Gobert is a BETTER player than either of them.

With all that being said, voters also usually factor in team records when they vote for All-NBA player. Otherwise, if we're strictly going off of your criteria, Bradley Beal has better numbers than some of the ones who got in. KAT had overall better numbers than Jokic, Vucevic had better numbers than KAT, and Embiid had better numbers than Jokic.

People don't just look at PPG, RPG, and APG and hand out All-NBA team awards. Just like how voters don't just look at SPG and BPG while handing out All-Def awards.

[Gileraracer]

How do some of you idiots manage to even survive?

In first world countries not everyday is a fight to survive. Our rivers aren't full of shit and we do not wash ourselves in them.

[INDI]

Bro, you made a retarded thread and you got owned. Just hold the L and move on. SouBeach pretty much killed your thread with his post. Let it die.

EDIT: Also, from my previous post, since you obviously did not read it:

Now that we're back to All-NBA teams, the overall best players at their position make the All-NBA team. Yes, defense factors in as well.

Andre Drummond and KAT had significantly better numbers than Gobert. Why do you think they didn't make it and Gobert made it? That's because Gobert is a BETTER player than either of them.

With all that being said, voters also usually factor in team records when they vote for All-NBA player. Otherwise, if we're strictly going off of your criteria, Bradley Beal has better numbers than some of the ones who got in. KAT had overall better numbers than Jokic, Vucevic had better numbers than KAT, and Embiid had better numbers than Jokic.

People don't just look at PPG, RPG, and APG and hand out All-NBA team awards. Just like how voters don't just look at SPG and BPG while handing out All-Def awards.

Retarded thread because I said there are four more guards that have had better years than Klay? What

[ArbitraryWater]

op you are really dumb


lucky for you to post this on your alt

[MrFonzworth]

op you are really dumb


lucky for you to post this on your alt
Rich coming from you:roll:

[MrFonzworth]

There's no way you're JUST NOW realizing this? :biggums:

Anyone who pays attention knows it. It's out of character for him to get riled up about a non lebron topic, doesnt have the bron fam to suck him off so he became the main laughing point of the thread as expected.

[aj1987]

Retarded thread because I said there are four more guards that have had better years than Klay? What’s retarded is you consistently acting as if I said these player were better than Klay when I didn’t. I said they had a better YEAR. Big difference. Paul George is not better than Lebron yet he finished first team all nba because he had a better year.

You are the one sounding retarded thinking that he should’ve made the all nba team just because he’s a great 3pt shooter and defender. You are a name junkie and feel players that don’t have a big as name as Klay should be placed above him. I gaurantee you have not watched one game of Zach, Deangelo, or Devin Bookers games this year but yet felt you were qualified to talk about them.

You get your info from inside hoops and espn then come and talk trash. Holla at me when you actually tune into the games
Are you honestly this dumb or are you just continuing this charade because your got called out?

Paul George was a better player than LeBron this season. In case you haven't heard yet, LeBron got injured and missed 27 games. If LeBron played over 75 games he would've made the first team All-NBA without question.

If by better year, you mean that some of them put up better numbers than Klay, then yeah, they did. You don't get into an All-NBA team just because of your numbers. How hard is that to understand? Case in point, Rudy Gobert got in over AD, KAT, Vucevic, Drummond, etc., who all had significantly better numbers than Gobert. How about Jokic making 1st team over Embiid? Embiid had MUCH better stats than Jokic. Explain that, dummy.

Also, as SouBeach pointed out:

2001

Stackhouse: 30/4/5
Kobe: 29/6/5
Carter: 28/6/4
McGrady: 27/8/5
Allen: 22/5/5

Did Stackhouse have a better year than Kobe/Carter/McGrady/Allen? Dude must've made the All-NBA team with those ridiculous stats, right?

For the 50th time:

The overall best players at their position make the All-NBA team. Yes, defense factors in as well.

With all that being said, voters also usually factor in team records when they vote for All-NBA player. Otherwise, if we're strictly going off of your criteria, Bradley Beal has better numbers than some of the ones who got in. KAT had overall better numbers than Jokic, Vucevic had better numbers than KAT, and Embiid had better numbers than Jokic.


I don't get it. Are you being dense of purpose? Is this your attempt at trolling?


Anyone who pays attention knows it. It's out of character for him to get riled up about a non lebron topic, doesnt have the bron fam to suck him off so he became the main laughing point of the thread as expected.
I'm agreeing with you ITT, you ****ing idiot. Did Embiid choking massively in the PO's and crying like a little bitch kill off the 2 brain cells you had left? Or is it the fact that actual basketball discussion is too much for your pea sized brain?


In first world countries not everyday is a fight to survive. Our rivers aren't full of shit and we do not wash ourselves in them.
Can someone translate this from retard to English? :cheers:

[warriorfan]

What are you doing dude? So obvious you dont watch basketball, you just google players and pull up numbers. Just stick to your usual schtick of calling anyone who ever has anything bad to say about lebron a fakkit and stay away from actual discussions to avoid further exposing yourself.

:roll: :roll:

Dude is one of the biggest autists on the forum for sure

[INDI]

op you are really dumb


lucky for you to post this on your alt

Don

[NBAGOAT]

[QUOTE=INDI]Don

[MrFonzworth]

Are you honestly this dumb or are you just continuing this charade because your got called out?

Paul George was a better player than LeBron this season. In case you haven't heard yet, LeBron got injured and missed 27 games. If LeBron played over 75 games he would've made the first team All-NBA without question.

If by better year, you mean that some of them put up better numbers than Klay, then yeah, they did. You don't get into an All-NBA team just because of your numbers. How hard is that to understand? Case in point, Rudy Gobert got in over AD, KAT, Vucevic, Drummond, etc., who all had significantly better numbers than Gobert. How about Jokic making 1st team over Embiid? Embiid had MUCH better stats than Jokic. Explain that, dummy.

Also, as SouBeach pointed out:

2001

Stackhouse: 30/4/5
Kobe: 29/6/5
Carter: 28/6/4
McGrady: 27/8/5
Allen: 22/5/5

Did Stackhouse have a better year than Kobe/Carter/McGrady/Allen? Dude must've made the All-NBA team with those ridiculous stats, right?

For the 50th time:

The overall best players at their position make the All-NBA team. Yes, defense factors in as well.

With all that being said, voters also usually factor in team records when they vote for All-NBA player. Otherwise, if we're strictly going off of your criteria, Bradley Beal has better numbers than some of the ones who got in. KAT had overall better numbers than Jokic, Vucevic had better numbers than KAT, and Embiid had better numbers than Jokic.


I don't get it. Are you being dense of purpose? Is this your attempt at trolling?


I'm agreeing with you ITT, you ****ing idiot. Did Embiid choking massively in the PO's and crying like a little bitch kill off the 2 brain cells you had left? Or is it the fact that actual basketball discussion is too much for your pea sized brain?


Can someone translate this from retard to English? :cheers:
Oh shit you were? My bad, I take back everything bad I ever said about you. You should be void of any criticism whatsoever because we share the same viewpoint on something.

[Lakers Fan]

Klay getting mad disrespected on here.

Lebron for Klay straight up.

Who says no? :rockon:

Mix in Kawhi or KD in the summer. Recipe for a Dynasty! :rockon:

[RealSkipBayless]

In first world countries not everyday is a fight to survive. Our rivers aren't full of shit and we do not wash ourselves in them.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[INDI]

the 3 crazy ones you listed(i agree with rest actually) are either just so awful defensively and/or are a lot less efficient. You may have a point for your 1st and 3rd points but using fg% with klay is just dumb when such a high percentage of his shots are 3s. He's far more than 3 and D too, you're kind of underrating his ability to create(like his mid post game for example)

I actually only mentioned fg% because a couple other people brought it up in their pathetic little arguments not realizing Klay had the worst of the bunch. It wasn’t even my focus but wanted to post it to show how people truly just be talking out the side of they neck.

Again this thread is strictly about Klay being mad for not making one of the three all nba teams when it is a fact that he was outplayed not only by them *this year* but by several other guards as well. Some of the names on my list are surprising because we don’t pay attention to those guys but I checked for several of them throughout the year and they were consistently balling. It’s just that their teams are not interesting and weren’t in playoff contention therefore no one was checking for them.

I guarantee just about everyone that disagreed with me here barely watched any of the players I mention in Bradley Beal, Zach LaVine, Deangelo Russell, and Devin Booker. They don’t have the name recognition but these guys were balling.

If someone wanted to argue that Zach missed some time with a injury ( I think about 2 games) than to me that’s a legit argument. I can deal with someone who’s argument makes analytical sense, but if you come at me from a standpoint that these guys shouldn’t be mentioned just because Klay has a big name in the league miss me with that. I’ll let your high school pals in here amp you up but your argument means nothing to me

[warriorfan]

In first world countries not everyday is a fight to survive. Our rivers aren't full of shit and we do not wash ourselves in them.

:roll: :roll: :roll: