How Kawhi Leonard is Mimicking Michael Jordan (Fadeaway Comparison)

[jstern]

Nice comparison video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3z2dCpnsEA

[3ball]

The goat lives on 30 years later

[sdot_thadon]

I wanna say he started studying Mj tape a couple of summers ago, Im pretty sure i ead that somewhere. But yeah, moves get passed on. Mj mimicked Dr.J and David Thompson etc.

[warriorfan]

Nice comparison video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3z2dCpnsEA

:applause:

[jstern]

The goat lives on 30 years later

He does live on with Kawhi.

With Kawhi you get a sense of how dominant Jordan would be. In the fade away comparison, Kawhi doesn't quite have the hang time or ability to get open that Jordan had, so imagine Jordan playing now with those advantages.

[3ball]

I wanna say he started studying Mj tape a couple of summers ago, Im pretty sure i ead that somewhere. But yeah, moves get passed on. Mj mimicked Dr.J and David Thompson etc.
MJ didn't look like Dr. J when he played, whereas Kawhi, Kobe, and most players tbh look kind of like MJ

He's the standard because his footwork and form was optimal - you don't realize it, but it's impossible to play the game more optimally than MJ did.. he played near perfectly at times (textbook footwork with goat athleticism, off-ball, quick-decision, goat form on everything, then there's the mental)

MJ originated the baggy shorts and the Jordan shoes... And popularized/perfected the fade away, and the tomahawk lean-in.. and the bald head

[sdot_thadon]

MJ didn't look like Dr. J when he played, whereas Kawhi, Kobe, and most players tbh look kind of like MJ

He's the standard because his footwork and form was optimal - you don't realize it, but it's impossible to play the game more optimally than MJ did.. he played near perfectly at times (textbook footwork with goat athleticism, off-ball, quick-decision, goat form on everything, then there's the mental)

MJ originated the baggy shorts and the Jordan shoes... And popularized/perfected the fade away, and the tomahawk lean-in.. and the bald head
Fan Boy alert :oldlol: Dude Mj directly lifted moves from other players before him. It's ok it's normal in hoops to do so. He added his own flair to what he did, but he's just as much a cover band guy as any other star. The main thing that set him apart was his dunking style, but even with that his most famous dunk is a Dr.J rip off.

[warriorfan]

Fan Boy alert :oldlol: Dude Mj directly lifted moves from other players before him. It's ok it's normal in hoops to do so. He added his own flair to what he did, but he's just as much a cover band guy as any other star. The main thing that set him apart was his dunking style, but even with that his most famous dunk is a Dr.J rip off.

Not to mention everything looks better when you are in the watered down expansion era

[bigkingsfan]

Everyone wants to be Curry. No one is working on the fadeway.

[FromDowntown]

Everyone is shooting FromDowntown since 3 is greater than 2. I wont be surprised to see AAU youth giving up fairly open layups for open 3s

[MrFonzworth]

Everyone is shooting FromDowntown since 3 is greater than 2. I wont be surprised to see AAU youth giving up fairly open layups for open 3s
Tf kind of alt is this?

[PickernRoller]

I would like to correct OP is that he's mimicking Kobe Bryant, who himself, mimicked Micheal Jordan - so in the end it does go back to the GOAT but.... Kawhi trains with Kobe, not with the old man.

Like the Jedi masters... one passes the teachings to the young padawans in a never ending cycle.

[red1]

MJ didn't look like Dr. J when he played, whereas Kawhi, Kobe, and most players tbh look kind of like MJ

He's the standard because his footwork and form was optimal - you don't realize it, but it's impossible to play the game more optimally than MJ did.. he played near perfectly at times (textbook footwork with goat athleticism, off-ball, quick-decision, goat form on everything, then there's the mental)

MJ originated the baggy shorts and the Jordan shoes... And popularized/perfected the fade away, and the tomahawk lean-in.. and the bald head
holy shit you should be a fantasy writer because you clearly have a knack for creating fictional worlds.



only thing mj ever originated in terms of fashion is the homeless clown look.

[red1]

I would like to correct OP is that he's mimicking Kobe Bryant, who himself, mimicked Micheal Jordan - so in the end it does go back to the GOAT but.... Kawhi trains with Kobe, not with the old man.

Like the Jedi masters... one passes the teachings to the young padawans.
shut the **** up and get back in the kitchen bitch.

[PickernRoller]

shut the **** up and get back in the kitchen bitch.

After I'm finished with your mom, she can go back to the kitchen.

[3ball]

this is an entire skillset that lebron lacks - this thread could never be about him because footwork, post plays, turnarounds and fadeaways are one-offs for him

This is stuff that fits into a system and plays off teammates well - again, an entire skillset he lacks.

Instead, his ball-dominant brand plays like westbrook/harden, and struggles to compete on the championship level.. he's done better than westbrook/harden because he's better than them and played in the East with hand-picked teams, but he still employs the same losing, suboptimal style

Btw, lebron gets no elevation on his jumper - that white kid blocked him with his elbow.. lebron's game is just fugly
.

[red1]

After I'm finished with your mom, she can go back to the kitchen.
my mom's dead and I'd **** both your moms before you ever had a chance at getting laid.



now get your ass back in the kitchen before I knock you unconscious.

[ImKobe]

this is an entire skillset that lebron lacks - this thread could never be about him because footwork, post plays, turnarounds and fadeaways are one-offs for him

This is stuff that fits into a system and plays off teammates well - again, an entire skillset he lacks.

Instead, his ball-dominant brand plays like westbrook/harden, and struggles to compete on the championship level.. he's done better than westbrook/harden because he's better than them and played in the East with hand-picked teams, but he still employs the same losing, suboptimal style

Btw, lebron gets no elevation on his jumper - that white kid blocked him with his elbow.. lebron's game is just fugly
.

And there's no excuse for him NOT TO learn how to play in the post.. He's 6-9 280 pounds.. he should be playing out of the post because they'd have to double him every time. You see Durant consistently doing this and he's like 50 pounds lighter.

Even Kobe at age 34 & in his 17th season scrapped D'Antoni's garbage 3PT offense and went in the post and single-handedly turned the season around, Lebron would never have the balls to do this.

[PickernRoller]

my mom's dead and I'd **** both your moms before you ever had a chance at getting laid.

now get your ass back in the kitchen before I knock you unconscious.

You wish she was dead so you can collect that life insurance. But we know she's not, so you stay in the basement, and dream of the living room.

[Poetry]

I wanna say he started studying Mj tape a couple of summers ago, Im pretty sure i ead that somewhere.

[I] Popovich:

[Phoenix]

I'd say he's done a pretty damn good job of assimilating some of 2nd 3peat MJ's offensive arsenal/tenancies. It's not have the same aesthetic in terms of grace/fluidity but it's definitely there.

[NBASTATMAN]

he def reminds me of MJ.. More than any other player because he is actually every efficient.. And A GREAT DEFENDER.

[DaHeezy]

I wanna say he started studying Mj tape a couple of summers ago, Im pretty sure i ead that somewhere. But yeah, moves get passed on. Mj mimicked Dr.J and David Thompson etc.

MJ mimicked Reggie Lewis with the fadeaway.

[DaHeezy]

this is an entire skillset that lebron lacks - this thread could never be about him because footwork, post plays, turnarounds and fadeaways are one-offs for him

This is stuff that fits into a system and plays off teammates well - again, an entire skillset he lacks.

Instead, his ball-dominant brand plays like westbrook/harden, and struggles to compete on the championship level.. he's done better than westbrook/harden because he's better than them and played in the East with hand-picked teams, but he still employs the same losing, suboptimal style

Btw, lebron gets no elevation on his jumper - that white kid blocked him with his elbow.. lebron's game is just fugly
.

Why am I not surprised this mentally handicapped guy would bring Lebron into this thread?

[FKAri]

MJ didn't look like Dr. J when he played, whereas Kawhi, Kobe, and most players tbh look kind of like MJ

He's the standard because his footwork and form was optimal - you don't realize it, but it's impossible to play the game more optimally than MJ did.. he played near perfectly at times (textbook footwork with goat athleticism, off-ball, quick-decision, goat form on everything, then there's the mental)

MJ originated the baggy shorts and the Jordan shoes... And popularized/perfected the fade away, and the tomahawk lean-in.. and the bald head
Are you OK? Take sip of water and sit down for a bit. You're frothing at the mouth. :oldlol:

[NBASTATMAN]

this is an entire skillset that lebron lacks - this thread could never be about him because footwork, post plays, turnarounds and fadeaways are one-offs for him

This is stuff that fits into a system and plays off teammates well - again, an entire skillset he lacks.

Instead, his ball-dominant brand plays like westbrook/harden, and struggles to compete on the championship level.. he's done better than westbrook/harden because he's better than them and played in the East with hand-picked teams, but he still employs the same losing, suboptimal style

Btw, lebron gets no elevation on his jumper - that white kid blocked him with his elbow.. lebron's game is just fugly
.

MELTDOWN ALERT :roll:

[3ball]

MELTDOWN ALERT



Nah, because we have the videotape, and it's obvious that MJ's fadeaway had an extra level that only he was on:


https://media.giphy.com/media/ZkiVauQdlJy92/giphy.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-01-2015/kV0RAl.gif



And a smoothness/perfection that Kawhi lacks:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2015/jaEjhc.gif



And physical capability that Kawhi lacks:


https://media.giphy.com/media/lU20Jne3of5WU/giphy.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-29-2019/xb7gFE.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-23-2015/dMLr8y.gif

[Vino24]

Kawhi is a better midrange shooter than MJ

[TheCorporation]

shut the **** up and get back in the kitchen bitch.

:roll: :roll:

[3ball]

:rolleyes'

[3ball]

Kawhi is a better midrange shooter than MJ



Midrange Regular Season



Kawhi 2019 (https://stats.nba.com/player/202695/shooting/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - .152/331.... 45.9%
MJMI 1997' (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - 588/1202... 48.9%


MJ shot better on 4 times the volume - not even remotely close... :facepalm

And his 3-pt shot was better too, but he "didn't want to excel at it" (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m07s) because he thought it hurt the rest of his game

But he still excelled when it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals and 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs....

And he excelled anytime he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 attempts every year, except 90/93 with 3+ attempts at 38% and 35%
.

[And1AllDay]

Midrange Regular Season



Kawhi 2019 (https://stats.nba.com/player/202695/shooting/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - .152/331.... 45.9%
MJMI 1997' (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - 588/1202... 48.9%


MJ shot better on 4 times the volume - not even remotely close... :facepalm

And his 3-pt shot was better too, but he "didn't want to excel at it" (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m07s) because he thought it hurt the rest of his game

But he still excelled when it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals and 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs....

And he excelled anytime he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 attempts every year, except 90/93 with 3+ attempts at 38% and 35%
.

Why did Mike shoot .189% from 3p after the line was no longer shortened

pls respond thx u

[sdot_thadon]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-24-2019/2r-3Oc.gif
Mj was the original "next" someone.

[3ball]

Why did Mike shoot .189% from 3p after the line was no longer shortened

pls respond thx u
Everyone shot worse in 1998, in part because of the line change

Everyone was used to shorter threes and now the line got moved back again

[3ball]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-24-2019/2r-3Oc.gif
Mj was the original "next" someone.
MJ's mid-range and passing was a lot better tho

[sdot_thadon]

MJ's mid-range and passing was a lot better tho
Who cares? Kobe's range was much better too.

[RealSkipBayless]

this is an entire skillset that lebron lacks - this thread could never be about him because footwork, post plays, turnarounds and fadeaways are one-offs for him

This is stuff that fits into a system and plays off teammates well - again, an entire skillset he lacks.

Instead, his ball-dominant brand plays like westbrook/harden, and struggles to compete on the championship level.. he's done better than westbrook/harden because he's better than them and played in the East with hand-picked teams, but he still employs the same losing, suboptimal style

Btw, lebron gets no elevation on his jumper - that white kid blocked him with his elbow.. lebron's game is just fugly
.
3ball always providing the facts. :applause:

[Vino24]

Kawhi

[Leviathon1121]

[QUOTE=Vino24]Kawhi

[And1AllDay]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-24-2019/2r-3Oc.gif
Mj was the original "next" someone.

:eek: :eek: :eek: Fraudon strikes again

[Da_Realist]

But yeah, moves get passed on. Mj mimicked Dr.J and David Thompson etc.

What in-game moves did MJ take from Dr J and David Thompson? They were all flashy and athletic but their games looked nothing alike.

[LAmbruh]

I have to give Kawhi's fade away the edge

more organic and aesthetic, plus a much better off ball move unlike MJ who was more stiff and spot up

[juju151111]

[QUOTE=Vino24]Kawhi

[AirBonner]

Above Mj? Why has he never averged 30 ppg than or have the numbers MJ put up in the playoffs in his 20s? When he took over has number 1 option in 15 he got detroyed in the playoffs same thing in 16. He just started doing good. Relax yourselves.
What does averaging an arbitrary number mean? MJ didn