The goat playoff stats: 35/7/7 w/ 2.3 stl and 1.0 blk.. 50.1% fg.. 35.2% 3P (2.2 att)

[3ball]

That isn't one series - that's MJ's stats in 85-93' playoffs - 9 years

Exact numbers are:

34.7 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1% fg.. 35.2% 3P (2.2 attempts)

35/7/7 on 50/35/83


Can anyone match this over an extended period?... :biggums:

[ImKobe]

That isn't one series - that's MJ's stats in 85-93' playoffs - 9 years

Exact numbers are:

34.7 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1% fg.. 35.2% 3P (2.2 attempts)

35/7/7 on 50/35/83


Can anyone match this over an extended period?... :biggums:

Nope, but I think his 1st 3-Peat averages are better

33.7 ppg 6.4 rpg 6.6 apg 2.1 spg 1.0 bpg on 50/39/84 shooting (2.4 3PA)

He shot the three consistently at 38% in all 3 runs with him peaking in '93 at 38.9% at 3.9 attempts. I believe '93 MJ is the most complete version of him as an offensive player. 41 ppg in the Finals on 50.8%FG with 40% from 3 at 4.2 attempts per game. Four straight 40+ pt games with a 55-pt game where he scored almost half of his team's 111 points in a win.

[3ball]

Nope, but I think his 1st 3-Peat averages are better

33.7 ppg 6.4 rpg 6.6 apg 2.1 spg 1.0 bpg on 50/39/84 shooting (2.4 3PA)

He shot the three consistently at 38% in all 3 runs with him peaking in '93 at 38.9% at 3.9 attempts. I believe '93 MJ is the most complete version of him as an offensive player. 41 ppg in the Finals on 50.8%FG with 40% from 3 at 4.2 attempts per game.
I can't argue with facts

93' MJ was all-round brilliant

94' MJ would've been the pinnacle

But that's how goats do it apparently.. retire midway, like Jim brown and Ali and Barry Sanders

[Gileraracer]

All that while winning 6 out of 6 finals with 6 FMVPs.


GOAT :eek:

[Vino24]

Curry is a better shooter than MJ

[FKAri]

Curry is a better shooter than MJ
MJ never worked on it. If he decided to work on it, he would've been a better shooter than anyone. That being said he was already on Curry's level but he just chose not to because he wanted to attack the defense.

[Big164]

MJ is a better DragQueen than Dennis Rodman

MJ never worked on it. If he decided to work on it, he would've been a very convincing woman.

[paksat]

But But But But But He Can't Shoot The 3











Meltdownnnn

[3ball]

MJ never worked on it. If he decided to work on it, he would've been a better shooter than anyone. That being said he was already on Curry's level but he just chose not to because he wanted to attack the defense.
If MJ played today, he'd make his 3-pt shot all-time great just like he did the mid-range and fadeaway..

He had goat form.... and despite no practice, he was already a good 3-point shooter anytime it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals, and 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in the 85-93' playoffs... And anytime he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 attempts every year except 90/93' with 3+ attempts at 37.6% and 35.2%

[Dray n Klay]

4 rebounds

2 assists

[superduper]

4 rebounds

2 assists

Russell

Westbrook

[3ball]

4 rebounds

2 assists
Goat scoring, clutch, teamwork, leadership and defense

Show me where Lebron coached a teammate to the game-winner like MJ did Kerr... f'kin goat

You realize that no one would know who Kerr is and he wouldn't be an NBA coach if he doesn't hit that shot to get name recognition right?.. MJ gave him a career - the goat teammate elevator.. :bowdown:

[3ball]

Russell

Westbrook

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Go30VSSpSm0c8/giphy.gif

[tontoz]

Generally speaking foul shooting correlates pretty well to 3 point shooting. When evaluating college players foul shooting correlates better than 3 point shooting when judging who can shoot NBA 3s.

Brook Lopez didn't take 3s for his first 8 years. He is a career 79% foul shooter and has become a respectable 3 point shooter.

Marc Gasol also didn't take 3s for his first 8 years. He is a career 78% foul shooter and has also become a respectable 3 point shooter.

MJ was a career 83.5% foul shooter so I am pretty confident he could become a decent 3 point shooter, especially given the fact that teams would be reluctant to play him tightly that far from the basket.

[r0drig0lac]

All that while winning 6 out of 6 finals with 6 FMVPs.


GOAT :eek:
:bowdown: :bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

4 reb
2 assists

second worst FG% in FMVP history :oldlol:

1-9

Hornacek


Never led team on defense



18.9% 3p when line was not shortened


2 ez baby girl :banana:

[3ball]

4 reb
2 assists


goat clutch and scoring burden (38% of team's points), and a record 34 ppg in an 82 pace series.. :bowdown:

Understand that only MJ/Kobe averaged over 30 in an under 90 pace Finals





second worst FG% in FMVP history :oldlol:


Lebron won with the worst true shooting - 52.9% in the 2013 Finals - worse than MJ ever had in Finals






1-9


Same as Lebron's 8 seed Lakers making the playoffs this year and getting beat by the warriors

Oh wait... He missed the playoffs because he's overrated.... :facepalm ... I forgot







Hornacek


Stockton was 2nd option





Never led team on defense


MJ guarded Magic for 14 of 20 quarters in the 91' Finals (70%), to Pippen's 6 of 20 quarters (30%)..

MJ was also the primary defender on Drexler, Payton (game 3 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=meL62CUehuw) and 5 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IFiqeJcgXfg)), Isiah Thomas (all (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MfhFFE7fc) the time (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53GLDrhMkY)), Reggie Miller, and Rod Strickland (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JqY3CECW8)

The only time Pippen was the primary defender on the opponent's best perimeter player in the playoffs was the 96' ECF, where Penny outplayed him (25 ppg)

[bigkingsfan]

https://i.ibb.co/N9GqjN6/pete-myers.png

[3ball]

https://i.ibb.co/N9GqjN6/pete-myers.png

the bulls won 47 games and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without mj's 33/8/8 in 1989.. that same lottery cast three-peated from 91-93' - so the 94' Bulls were a lottery cast that had developed the know-how, teamwork and goat brand required of all dynasties.. they managed off teamwork, not talent.

Otoh, Lebron's teammates play bad with or without him because he reduces everyone to spot-up shooters - weak teams let 1 guy dribble most of the time, so the team collapses without that guy.. Otoh, dynasty teams play great basketball with or without their star because they move the ball instead of having 1 guy dribble it all the time

Similar to other ball-dominators like Westbrook and Harden, lebron's teams play bad basketball.... people simply ignored it because he had super-teams that were winning the LEast every year..

[TheCorporation]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7veFYXgAImzuS.jpg

[3ball]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7veFYXgAImzuS.jpg
the bulls won 47 games and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without mj's 33/8/8 in 1989.. that same lottery cast from 89' three-peated from 91-93' - so the 94' Bulls were a lottery cast that had developed the know-how, teamwork and goat brand required of all dynasties.. they managed off teamwork, not talent.

Otoh, Lebron's teammates play bad with or without him because he reduces everyone to spot-up shooters - weak teams let 1 guy dribble most of the time, so the team collapses without that guy.. Otoh, dynasty teams play great basketball with or without their star because they move the ball instead of having 1 guy dribble it all the time

Similar to other ball-dominators like Westbrook and Harden, lebron's teams play bad basketball.... people simply ignored it because he had super-teams that were winning the LEast every year..
.

[bigkingsfan]

the bulls won 47 games and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without mj's 33/8/8 in 1989.. that same lottery cast three-peated from 91-93' - so the 94' Bulls were a lottery cast that had developed the know-how, teamwork and goat brand required of all dynasties.. they managed off teamwork, not talent.

Otoh, Lebron's teammates play bad with or without him because he reduces everyone to spot-up shooters - weak teams let 1 guy dribble most of the time, so the team collapses without that guy.. Otoh, dynasty teams play great basketball with or without their star because they move the ball instead of having 1 guy dribble it all the time

Similar to other ball-dominators like Westbrook and Harden, lebron's teams play bad basketball.... people simply ignored it because he had super-teams that were winning the LEast every year..
The Bulls did not have

https://i.ibb.co/N9GqjN6/pete-myers.png

in 1995

[Manny98]

Anyone can put up those stats with milkmen and plumbers defending you every night :roll:

[TheCorporation]

Anyone can put up those stats with milkmen and plumbers defending you every night :roll:

Don't forget shoe salesmen, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics :lol

[TheCorporation]

1993 Bulls Roster = 57 wins
Armstrong
Pippen
Grant
Cartwright
Jordan (32.6 ppg)


1994 Bulls Roster = 55 wins
Armstrong
Pippen
Grant
Cartwright
Myers (7.9 ppg)

Sure the 94 Bulls won 2 less games without Jordan but the salaries probably even that out.

Why did replacing a 32.6 ppg player for a 7.9 ppg player result in only 2 less wins? Does Jordan have empty stats?

Never forget Pete Myers:

http://history.bulls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/pete-myers.png

[StrongLurk]

I feel like these Lebron stans aren't trolling MJ...it's just 3ball's insanity that they are trolling.

[TheCorporation]

I feel like these Lebron stans aren't trolling MJ...it's just 3ball's insanity that they are trolling.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

[3ball]

I feel like these Lebron stans aren't trolling MJ...it's just 3ball's insanity that they are trolling.
It's both

Because they make tons of their own threads saying the same shit, and then routinely bump them

[TheCorporation]

It's both

Because they make tons of their own threads saying the same shit, and then routinely bump them

At least we post facts and not biased trash made up shit like you

"But in game 1 and 2 he did this"

"But if you look at the one year he did this"

No :no:

[StrongLurk]

It's both

Because they make tons of their own threads saying the same shit, and then routinely bump them

What's your top 10 list?

And no, you can't list MJ 10 times because I know you would do that.

[TheCorporation]

What's your top 10 list?

And no, you can't list MJ 10 times because I know you would do that.

2ball is a lunatic. He has been on record as saying "LeBron is not top 25" so he brings it on himself really :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

2ball is a lunatic. He has been on record as saying "LeBron is not top 25" so he brings it on himself really :confusedshrug:
1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kobe
4. Bird
5. Magic
6. Shaq
7. Kareem
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10. Hakeem

[paksat]

1993 Bulls Roster = 57 wins
Armstrong
Pippen
Grant
Cartwright
Jordan (32.6 ppg)


1994 Bulls Roster = 55 wins
Armstrong
Pippen
Grant
Cartwright
Myers (7.9 ppg)

Sure the 94 Bulls won 2 less games without Jordan but the salaries probably even that out.

Why did replacing a 32.6 ppg player for a 7.9 ppg player result in only 2 less wins? Does Jordan have empty stats?

Never forget Pete Myers:

http://history.bulls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/pete-myers.png


:mad: :mad: Michael jordan Michael jordan Michael jordan Michael jordan Michael jordan Michael jordan :mad: :mad:

[StrongLurk]

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kobe
4. Bird
5. Magic
6. Shaq
7. Kareem
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10. Hakeem

What, can't be honest? I've seen you shit on Kobe a couple of times when people suggest he is better at some things than MJ and then claim Kobe isn't top 10 :roll:

Everything you've criticized Lebron for...you could criticize Wilt EVEN MORE.

So your list is bogus and you know it since you put Wilt at 2 all time.

[paksat]

Anyone can put up those stats with milkmen and plumbers defending you every night :roll:

especially scottie pippen :roll:























































































































:roll:

[Phoenix]

I feel like these Lebron stans aren't trolling MJ...it's just 3ball's insanity that they are trolling.

I'm inclined to think it's a caricature designed as a counterbalance to the MJ and Kobe camps. It's the only thing that makes sense when you have an account/series of accounts that in essence exists strictly to discuss Lebron/MJ/Kobe but you never see him/them talk about any other topic. It's either management, or endorsed by management, because no other board I'm a member of accepts this level of blatant trolling. If it was actually something they wanted stamped out, a sticky would be created, any and all offending accounts would be perma-banned and Lebron/Kobe/MJ individual threads would be capped or banned. What happens now creates buzz and traffic, so the system is working as intended.

[LostCause]

I'm inclined to think it's a caricature designed as a counterbalance to the MJ and Kobe camps. It's the only thing that makes sense when you have an account/series of accounts that in essence exists strictly to discuss Lebron/MJ/Kobe but you never see him/them talk about any other topic. It's either management, or endorsed by management, because no other board I'm a member of accepts this level of blatant trolling. If it was actually something they wanted stamped out, a sticky would be created, any and all offending accounts would be perma-banned and Lebron/Kobe/MJ individual threads would be capped or banned. What happens now creates buzz and traffic, so the system is working as intended.

It is pretty ridiculous

[StrongLurk]

I'm inclined to think it's a caricature designed as a counterbalance to the MJ and Kobe camps. It's the only thing that makes sense when you have an account/series of accounts that in essence exists strictly to discuss Lebron/MJ/Kobe but you never see him/them talk about any other topic. It's either management, or endorsed by management, because no other board I'm a member of accepts this level of blatant trolling. If it was actually something they wanted stamped out, a sticky would be created, any and all offending accounts would be perma-banned and Lebron/Kobe/MJ individual threads would be capped or banned. What happens now creates buzz and traffic, so the system is working as intended.

Holy crap I came to the same conclusion yesterday when I posted about him.

I mentioned that 3ball could definitely be Jeff....someone else mentioned KBlaze which would not surprise me either.