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3ball
05-27-2019, 02:52 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TC9lRrU7Y80&t=04m23s


But mini-MJ (Kawhi) beat Giannis/Lebron... :confusedshrug:

Nick forgot that even though the East doesn't require a superstar cast to make the Finals, Giannis/Lebron's weak-shooting and exploitable up-and-down play DOES require a superstar.. :applause:

That's why lebron lost in 09/10 a needed to team up with superstars in Miami

He only made it once without a superstar (07') when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd) twice)
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Vino24
05-27-2019, 02:56 PM
But mini-MJ (Kawhi) beat Giannis/Lebron... :confusedshrug:

Nick forgot that even though the East doesn't require a superstar cast to make the Finals, Giannis/Lebron's weak-shooting and exploitable up-and-down play DOES require a superstar.. :applause:

That's why lebron lost in 09/10 a needed to team up with superstars in Miami

He only made it once without a superstar (07') when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd) twice)
Kawhi like Curry is also a better midrange shooter than MJ

3ball
05-27-2019, 03:00 PM
Kawhi like Curry is also a better midrange shooter than MJ


.
Midrange Regular Season



Kawhi 2019 (https://stats.nba.com/player/202695/shooting/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - .152/331.... 45.9%
MJMI 1997' (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) - 588/1202... 48.9%


MJ shot better on 4 times the volume - not even remotely close... :facepalm

And his 3-pt shot was better too, but he "didn't want to excel at it" (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m07s) because he thought it hurt the rest of his game

But he still excelled at threes when it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals and 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs....

And he excelled anytime he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 attempts every year, except 90/93 with 3+ attempts at 38% and 35%

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 03:02 PM
LeBron made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

StrongLurk
05-27-2019, 03:05 PM
LeBron made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

3ball doesn't want facts...he does have Wilt Chamberlain number 2 all time tho :roll:

Also Nick Wright never mentions Lebron in the video 3braincells posted.

3ball
05-27-2019, 03:09 PM
LeBron made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Lebron only made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd twice)

But even though a strong cast wasn't needed to make the Finals, Lebron lost in 09/10 and teamed up with superstars from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in the weak conference

And bro, do you realize that lebron averaged 16 on 39% for the first 3 games of the 13' Finals? And his 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games, thus needing Ray Allen to force game 7.. lebron was also a net negative for the series - so he was horrible and got carried..:(
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ImKobe
05-27-2019, 03:40 PM
Lebron only made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd twice)

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Big Z is a superstar in his home country and his jersey is retired by the Cavs.

Lebron didn't make a single Finals without a superstar.

Dray n Klay
05-27-2019, 03:42 PM
Big Z is a superstar in his home country and his jersey is retired by the Cavs.

Lebron didn't make a single Finals without a superstar.

By that logic Kobe missed the playoffs with 2 superstar teammates in 2013

ImKobe
05-27-2019, 03:43 PM
By that logic Kobe missed the playoffs with 2 superstar teammates in 2013

Which one of those guys will have their jersey retired in Staples besides Kobe?

Robert Sacre?

:roll:

bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 03:57 PM
Derozan should have won this year because he played like MJ

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:04 PM
Lebron only made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, when everyone else was doing it too (Dwight, AI, Kidd twice)

But even though a strong cast wasn't needed to make the Finals, Lebron lost in 09/10 and teamed up with superstars from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs in the weak conference

And bro, do you realize that lebron averaged 16 on 39% for the first 3 games of the 13' Finals? And his 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games, thus needing Ray Allen to force game 7.. lebron was also a net negative for the series - so he was horrible and got carried..:(
.
Don

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:11 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2a4wgvt.jpg

What superstarS did Lebron play with besides 2011 and 2012 Wade?

Superstars aren't on/off. Why would Wade be a Superstar in 2012 and not 2013?

superduper
05-27-2019, 04:15 PM
What superstarS did Lebron play with besides 2011 and 2012 Wade?

Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?

StrongLurk
05-27-2019, 04:21 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2a4wgvt.jpg


Superstars aren't on/off. Why would Wade be a Superstar in 2012 and not 2013?

Lol what? Players can drop off one year and not recover, especially if it's due to chronic injuries. It's called "exiting your prime".

Wade was NEVER a superstar after 2012.

3ball
05-27-2019, 04:22 PM
:rolleyes:

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:22 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2a4wgvt.jpg


Superstars aren't on/off. Why would Wade be a Superstar in 2012 and not 2013?
No one can be this stupid lmao.:roll:
The same reason Kobe was a superstar in 2013 but not 2014. Injuries and natural decline from age.

Seriously this is a baskeall forum and I jus had to explain that:facepalm

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:22 PM
Lol what? Players can drop off one year and not recover, especially if it's due to chronic injuries. It's called "exiting your prime".

Wade was NEVER a superstar after 2012.

Wade's production was about the same in 2012 and 2013.

He also played more games in 2013

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:23 PM
Wade's production was about the same in 2012 and 2013.

He also played more games in 2013
Jesus Christ:roll:

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:25 PM
No one can be this stupid lmao.:roll:
The same reason Kobe was a superstar in 2013 but not 2014. Injuries and natural decline from age.

Seriously this is a baskeall forum and I jus had to explain that:facepalm
Wade's production was about the same in 2012 and 2013.

He also played more games in 2013

*Kobe was a superstar until he retired, btw

3ball
05-27-2019, 04:26 PM
Don’t call me bro.

What superstarS did Lebron play with besides 2011 and 2012 Wade?


top 5 talked-about player + All-NBA + All-Star MVP + champ/legendary closer = superstar = Kyrie

top 4 in the "big 4" of advanced box stats (PER, VORP, BPM, WS/48) + all-nba + 68% HOF probability = superstar = 14' Love

11-time all-star + multiple-time playoffs with zero cast + elite pnr D and 2-way play + 99% HOF probability = superstar = Bosh

And Wade = superstar... His so-called "broken-down" stats from 13-14' were pippen's standard



So that's the 1) 2nd or 3rd best SG ever... 2) the goat ball-handler, aka "best closer in the league"... 3 & 4) two sophisticated, do-it-all bigs that can spread the floor and achieved All-NBA...

In other words, superstars


Anything else?..

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:27 PM
Jesus Christ:roll:
http://oi63.tinypic.com/262uohx.jpg

I'll wait

34-24 Footwork
05-27-2019, 04:31 PM
LeBron made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

How many all-stars were on each team?

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:31 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/262uohx.jpg

I'll wait
Now scroll down a little and post the postseason stats for those 2 years.

I

34-24 Footwork
05-27-2019, 04:32 PM
Lol @ nerds now parsing out the difference between Superstars and All-stars in a desperate attempt to indicate LeBron had no help.

Terrible season for them. Lol

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:32 PM
How many all-stars were on each team?
All stars = superstars?
Kemba = Kawhi:applause:

FKAri
05-27-2019, 04:34 PM
top 5 talked-about player

Hold the presses y'all! Lebron played with a top-5-talked-about player. STACKED!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:36 PM
Hold the presses y'all! Lebron played with a top-5-talked-about player. STACKED!

:roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll:

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE=Bankaii]Now scroll down a little and post the postseason stats for those 2 years.

I

3ball
05-27-2019, 04:38 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/262uohx.jpg

I'll wait
Wow so it looks like Wade's stats from his "broken-down" years in 13' and 14' (20/5/5 on 47%) are Pippen's standard from his prime

I suppose Wade's best was so much better than Pippen's, that people are shocked when he played down to pip's level as an older player... but bulls fans didn't lose any sleep when pip averaged 16 on 40%.. he had a dozen series like this - f'kin standard... But for Wade - his fans think his career is over... :oldlol:

So thank you for ethering Bankaii.. easy work

stalkerforlife
05-27-2019, 04:41 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/262uohx.jpg

I'll wait

:roll:

Ouch.

Simon destroyed.

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:41 PM
Oh I know his playoff performance wasn't as good, but that can't be how you judge superstars. You included 2016 and 2017 as having no superstar help, so you clearly weren't concerned with playoff stats. Otherwise, Kyrie would be considered as such and those years wouldn't have been posted :hammerhead:

So why would 2012 Wade be considered a "superstar" to you, but 2017 Kyrie isn't?
Are you gonna post the postseason stats? You seemed so eager to post the regular season. Go ahead and post them, I

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:42 PM
:roll:

Ouch.

Simon destroyed.
You can post the postseason stats too since he

NBAGOAT
05-27-2019, 04:43 PM
Wade's production was about the same in 2012 and 2013.

He also played more games in 2013

*Kobe was a superstar until he retired, btw

i get your overall point, 14 was really the big dropoff year. However the games played is really cancelled out by 2012 being a lockout year. He missed 4 more games in 2012 actually.

Wade also played more minutes in 13 so per 100 would work better here.

11: 36.3/9.1/6.5
12: 35/7.7/7.3
13: 32.4/7.6/7.8
14: 30.5/7.1/7.5

There's another narrative that wade started to drop off in 13 and was pretty great in 12 and there's statistical backing for that too.

stalkerforlife
05-27-2019, 04:44 PM
[QUOTE=Bankaii]You can post the postseason stats too since he

NBAGOAT
05-27-2019, 04:46 PM
Why?

There was no competition in the east due to cowardly colluding.

Everything was a foregone conclusion and useless.

Wade didn't even have to exert himself.

Everything from the Miami years means nothing.

if the east had no competition as soon as the "cowardly colluding" happened, why did wade put up good postseason stats in 2011 and 2012 and "exert himself".

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:47 PM
Why?

There was no competition in the east due to cowardly colluding.

Everything was a foregone conclusion and useless.

Wade didn't even have to exert himself.

Everything from the Miami years means nothing.
No competition in the East is why Wade did worse in the East playoffs?

I see why they call you:cletus:

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:48 PM
[QUOTE=Bankaii]Are you gonna post the postseason stats? You seemed so eager to post the regular season. Go ahead and post them, I

Bankaii
05-27-2019, 04:53 PM
Since you seem slow to pick up on things, the entire reason I did that was to bait you into saying something stupid, which you're doing now




So 2012 Wade was on the same tier as LeBron, Durant, CP3 etc? Absolutely not. By any measure. Kyrie basically outperformed him in the regular season AND playoffs yet your argument for why Wade's a Superstar and Kyrie wasn't is because Kyrie wasn't on the same level as the Top 5 players in the league...

Wade made the All-NBA team in 2013 just as he did in 2012 (Infact, both were 3rd team selections), with a better regular season statline, but he was a "Superstar" in 2012 and not 2013

You just type whatever pops into your head, consistency be damned, right?
I can

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:54 PM
i get your overall point, 14 was really the big dropoff year. However the games played is really cancelled out by 2012 being a lockout year. He missed 4 more games in 2012 actually.

Wade also played more minutes in 13 so per 100 would work better here.

11: 36.3/9.1/6.5
12: 35/7.7/7.3
13: 32.4/7.6/7.8
14: 30.5/7.1/7.5

There's another narrative that wade started to drop off in 13 and was pretty great in 12 and there's statistical backing for that too.

My overall point is more about Kyrie, who at least performed as good as or arguably better than Wade in 2012 in the regular season and playoffs (2016 Kyrie definitely did in the Playoffs imo)

stalkerforlife
05-27-2019, 04:56 PM
Since you seem slow to pick up on things, the entire reason I did that was to bait you into saying something stupid, which you're doing now




So 2012 Wade was on the same tier as LeBron, Durant, CP3 etc? Absolutely not. By any measure. Kyrie basically outperformed him in the regular season AND playoffs yet your argument for why Wade's a Superstar and Kyrie wasn't is because Kyrie wasn't on the same level as the Top 5 players in the league...

Wade made the All-NBA team in 2013 just as he did in 2012 (Infact, both were 3rd team selections), with a better regular season statline, but he was a "Superstar" in 2012 and not 2013

You just type whatever pops into your head, consistency be damned, right?

Simon destroyed.

LostCause
05-27-2019, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=Bankaii]I can

NBAGOAT
05-27-2019, 05:06 PM
My overall point is more about Kyrie, who at least performed as good as or arguably better than Wade in 2012 in the regular season and playoffs (2016 Kyrie definitely did in the Playoffs imo)

hmm iffy one. kyrie's defense was so meh back then. the cavs without him didnt lose that much when he didnt play(obviously he mattered and they wouldnt have won without him but there wasnt superstar impact).

I could definitely see someone arguing wade dropping from 12 to 13 however. the per 100 stats bear that out. I wouldnt consider wade better for 13 but would a little for 12 at least. For some the playoff run is all that matters and I get that pov but eh.

tpols
05-27-2019, 05:32 PM
No competition in the East is why Wade did worse in the East playoffs?

I see why they call you:cletus:


Uh...yea dude.

Wade is a guy who steps up when the going is rough. He isn't a statpadder...and apparently isn't as ego centric since he'll gladly step down to let others shine.

2013 was the perfect example, he cruise controlled through the shitty east and outplayed LeBron vs San Antonio.

tpols
05-27-2019, 05:34 PM
Since you seem slow to pick up on things, the entire reason I did that was to bait you into saying something stupid, which you're doing now




So 2012 Wade was on the same tier as LeBron, Durant, CP3 etc? Absolutely not. By any measure. Kyrie basically outperformed him in the regular season AND playoffs yet your argument for why Wade's a Superstar and Kyrie wasn't is because Kyrie wasn't on the same level as the Top 5 players in the league...

Wade made the All-NBA team in 2013 just as he did in 2012 (Infact, both were 3rd team selections), with a better regular season statline, but he was a "Superstar" in 2012 and not 2013

You just type whatever pops into your head, consistency be damned, right?


Wade was always a superstar capable of out playing those guys...you can't compare his productions with LeBron to what he was capable of in a vacuum. LeBron, as he is with most, was a horrible fit for him.

SouBeachTalents
05-27-2019, 05:42 PM
Uh...yea dude.

Wade is a guy who steps up when the going is rough. He isn't a statpadder...and apparently isn't as ego centric since he'll gladly step down to let others shine.

2013 was the perfect example, he cruise controlled through the shitty east and outplayed LeBron vs San Antonio.
Bruh :biggums: In the games on the road, it's actually close. But factoring in the games in Miami, where they had 3 of their wins, and the series overall, no fcking way does that statement hold true :lol

3ball
05-27-2019, 05:51 PM
Uh...yea dude.

Wade is a guy who steps up when the going is rough. He isn't a statpadder...and apparently isn't as ego centric since he'll gladly step down to let others shine.

2013 was the perfect example, he cruise controlled through the shitty east and outplayed LeBron vs San Antonio.



Exactly



Heat ORtgN with Wade on floor:. 109.8
Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:. ..87.3
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...............Increase in team ORtg:. 22.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)<--- link to NBA.com dara


Heat ORtgN with Lebron on floor:. 106.7
Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:. ..98.8
______________________________________________
.....................Increase in team ORtg:.7.9 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)
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bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 05:57 PM
Exactly



Heat ORtgN with Wade on floor:. 109.8
Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:. ..87.3
______________________________________________
.......................Increase in team ORtg:. 22.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)<--- link to NBA.com dara


Heat ORtgN with Lebron on floor:. 106.7
Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:. ..98.8
______________________________________________
.........................Increase in team ORtg:.7.9 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)
Derek Fisher was better than Kobe in the finals. :eek:

TheCorporation
05-27-2019, 06:01 PM
LeBron ..

TheCorporation
05-27-2019, 06:02 PM
LeBron made the Finals without another superstar in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

Boom

3ball
05-27-2019, 06:22 PM
Derek Fisher was better than Kobe in the finals. :eek:
Lebron/Wade averaged 25 and 20, and it was pretty even until the last game - lebron always needs an equal scoring partner to win the Finals

So we're comparing the impacts of the team's big scorers - the #1 options or 1a/1b, not role players like Fish..


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tpols
05-27-2019, 06:27 PM
Derek Fisher was better than Kobe in the finals. :eek:


Damn bro...this is how you know youre getting ethered.

bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 06:47 PM
Damn bro...this is how you know youre getting ethered.
Who am I to argue with ORtg.

RRR3
05-27-2019, 06:49 PM
Damn bro...this is how you know youre getting ethered.
Tell us more about how Giannis isn’t good at basketball :oldlol:

Impossible to take you seriously after that gem.

stalkerforlife
05-27-2019, 08:54 PM
Exactly



Heat ORtgN with Wade on floor:. 109.8
Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:. ..87.3
______________________________________________
...............Increase in team ORtg:. 22.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)<--- link to NBA.com dara


Heat ORtgN with Lebron on floor:. 106.7
Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:. ..98.8
______________________________________________
.....................Increase in team ORtg:.7.9 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)
.

:roll:

aj1987
06-03-2019, 02:41 AM
Exactly



Heat ORtgN with Wade on floor:. 109.8
Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:. ..87.3
______________________________________________
...............Increase in team ORtg:. 22.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)<--- link to NBA.com dara


Heat ORtgN with Lebron on floor:. 106.7
Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:. ..98.8
______________________________________________
.....................Increase in team ORtg:.7.9 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)
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How has literally no one called out 3ball on this? Are you really this retarded, 3ball? I'm pretty sure you even made this post into a thread, thinking that you found something new while wasting your life away on NBA.com's stats pages.

That's the Heat's DEFENSIVE Rating with Wade and LeBron On/Off the court. According to DRtg, the Heat had a DRtg of 109.8 with Wade ON the Court and 87.3 with him OFF the court. To make it simpler, the Spurs scored at a rate of 109.8 points per 100 possessions with Wade ON the court and were held to 87.3 points per 100 possessions with Wade OFF the Court.

Offensive rating? The Heat were a +16.5 with Wade OFF the court, according to ORtg.

SpaceJam2
06-03-2019, 02:45 AM
How has literally no one called out 3ball on this? Are you really this retarded, 3ball? I'm pretty sure you even made this post into a thread, thinking that you found something new while wasting your life away on NBA.com's stats pages.

That's the Heat's DEFENSIVE Rating with Wade and LeBron On/Off the court. According to DRtg, the Heat had a DRtg of 109.8 with Wade ON the Court and 87.3 with him OFF the court. To make it simpler, the Spurs scored at a rate of 109.8 points per 100 possessions with Wade ON the court and were held to 87.3 points per 100 possessions with Wade OFF the Court.

Offensive rating? The Heat were a +16.5 with Wade OFF the court, according to ORtg.

:applause: :applause:

3ball
06-03-2019, 04:15 AM
How has literally no one called out 3ball on this? Are you really this retarded, 3ball? I'm pretty sure you even made this post into a thread, thinking that you found something new while wasting your life away on NBA.com's stats pages.

That's the Heat's DEFENSIVE Rating with Wade and LeBron On/Off the court. According to DRtg, the Heat had a DRtg of 109.8 with Wade ON the Court and 87.3 with him OFF the court. To make it simpler, the Spurs scored at a rate of 109.8 points per 100 possessions with Wade ON the court and were held to 87.3 points per 100 possessions with Wade OFF the Court.

Offensive rating? The Heat were a +16.5 with Wade OFF the court, according to ORtg.

Wow, you finally beat me in a post.. mark the date.. June 3.. of course, only due to a typo.. I apparently misread the colums ...

But the data below is accurate that shows Curry has the lowest impact on offense among these players... :applause:. :applause:. :applause:



Playoffs


09' Lakers ORtg .with.'' Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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.................................Difference - 18.0 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1) <----- link to NBA.com source



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 17.6 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs)



16' Cavalier ORtg .with.'' lebron - 115.9
16' Cavalier ORtg w/out lebron - 98.4
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 17.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612739/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1)



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
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.................................Difference - 6.2 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs)



19' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 15.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1)


Kobe had the biggest offensive impact and Curry the smallest

aj1987
06-03-2019, 04:33 AM
Wow, you finally beat me in a post.. mark the date.. June 3.. of course, only due to a typo.. I apparently misread the colums ...

But the data below is accurate that shows Curry has the lowest impact on offense among these players... :applause:. :applause:. :applause:



Playoffs


09' Lakers ORtg .with.'' Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 18.0 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1) <----- link to NBA.com source



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 17.6 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs)



16' Cavalier ORtg .with.'' lebron - 115.9
16' Cavalier ORtg w/out lebron - 98.4
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 17.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612739/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1)



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 6.2 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs)



19' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
__________________________________
.................................Difference - 15.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1)


Kobe had the biggest offensive impact and Curry the smallest
Why in the actual **** are you bringing up Curry, you autistic turd?

Mr Feeny
06-03-2019, 06:14 AM
Nick Wright knows nothing about basketball. Why are you surprised to see him get something wrong again?

3ball
06-03-2019, 06:45 AM
Nick Wright knows nothing about basketball. Why are you surprised to see him get something wrong again?
He's one of the original lebron-tards that came up with a bunch of convoluted arguments to support lebron

So it's nice to see him so clearly wrong - he should've recognized that Giannis is basically 07' Lebron, except better

Mr Feeny
06-03-2019, 10:17 AM
He's one of the original lebron-tards that came up with a bunch of convoluted arguments to support lebron

So it's nice to see him so clearly wrong - he should've recognized that Giannis is basically 07' Lebron, except better

But he's always wrong. So what's special about it? This is the same guy who said that the arriors' ability to erase 15 point leads was "gone" in the fall of 2016 because in his words "Durant doesn't offset the lack of depth". He then went on a rant about how the Cavs are in the warriors' heads and therefore it was over for Golden State.

After Golden State beat the pants off of Cleveland in the finals, he changed his tune and back tracked and kept talking about how unfairly stacked Golden State were.

The guy is an imbecile. End of.

Wally450
06-03-2019, 11:02 AM
He also said Philly was going to come out of the East.

:roll: :roll: