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Vino24
05-27-2019, 04:13 PM
Absolute prime playoff averages 27-29 years old:

Pippen: 22ppg
Love: 15ppg

Why did Love's ppg drop off so drastically in the playoffs?

LostCause
05-27-2019, 04:14 PM
Irving: 25.5ppg (Or 23.9 included 2015)

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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2019, 04:14 PM
b/c he was playing with a player who turned him into a spotup shooter and nerfed his talent/skills

Loves postup touches died in Cleveland

meanwhile MJ got the ball to Pip in the post and transition for him to eat to his strengths

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SamuraiSWISH
05-27-2019, 05:04 PM
Irving: 25.5ppg (Or 23.9 included 2015)

/thread
:eek:

3ball
05-27-2019, 05:06 PM
Big Z 05':. 16.9/8.6/1.3.. 2.1 blk.. 55.0 ts.. 19.5 PER.. 0 149 ws.. lottery
PIP. 90':...' 16.5/6.7/5.4.. 1.1 blk.. 52.8 ts.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 ws.. Gm 7 ECF

Mo Will.. 09':. 17.8/3.4/4.1.. 58.8 ts.. 17.2 PER.. 0 165 ws.. upset ECF
S Pippen 90':. 16.5/6.3/5.4.. 52.8 ts.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 ws.. ECF 6 gm
Jamison 10':. 15.8/7.7/1.3.. 52.8 ts.. 17.5 PER.. 0 111 ws.. upset Rd 2

SouBeachTalents
05-27-2019, 05:07 PM
27-29 year old Wade: 27/7/5/2/2 on 49%

SamuraiSWISH
05-27-2019, 05:07 PM
27-29 year old Wade: 27/7/5/2/2 on 49%
:eek:

3ball
05-27-2019, 05:10 PM
27-29 year old Wade: 27/7/5/2/2 on 49%
much better than pippen's best

So when Wade gets to 31-32 and starts playing like pippen's standard of 20/5/5, I can see why you guys would lose it and think his career is over...

Vino24
05-27-2019, 05:31 PM
27-29 year old Wade: 27/7/5/2/2 on 49%
Was that wade on the Cavs? This is Bulls Cavs

3ball
05-27-2019, 05:32 PM
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Big Z 05':. 16.9/8.6/1.3.. 2.1 blk.. 55.0 ts.. 19.5 PER.. 0 149 ws.. lottery
PIP. 90':...' 16.5/6.7/5.4.. 1.1 blk.. 52.8 ts.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 ws.. Gm 7 ECF

Mo Will.. 09':. 17.8/3.4/4.1.. 58.8 ts.. 17.2 PER.. 0 165 ws.. upset ECF
S Pippen 90':. 16.5/6.3/5.4.. 52.8 ts.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 ws.. ECF 6 gm
Jamison 10':. 15.8/7.7/1.3.. 52.8 ts.. 17.5 PER.. 0 111 ws.. upset Rd 2


Anyone?


I didn't even need likely HOF's Kyrie or Love

And I could've used 91' Pip too

Ultimately, lebron played with 6 guys that were all-stars alongside him (3 rings), compared to 1 all-star teammate for the goat (6 rings).. so MJ was playing a lot better basketball than lebron

Duncan21formvp
05-27-2019, 11:16 PM
Well Wade was the 1st option it is why he won a title as the man and Lebron needed to join forces with him. He also had Ben Wallace and Shaq.

egokiller
05-27-2019, 11:22 PM
Poor Vino having to come with terms that MJ did more with less.

Who still stans a 6 time loser these days anyway? :lol

jstern
05-28-2019, 12:37 AM
Pippen without Jordan, 22.0 ppg, Pippen with Jordan, 19.6 ppg.

Difference of 1.4 points per game.

Love before Lebron 26.1 ppg, Love joins Lebron and drops to 16.4 ppg.

Difference of 9.7 points per game.

That's because one plays optimal team offense, while in the case of Lebron, everybody has to sacrifice their game so that he could get his stats.

Rebounds before Lebron 12.5, rebounds when he joined Lebron, 9.7.

Assists, 4.4. Joins Lebron, 2.2. Half.

And1AllDay
05-28-2019, 12:39 AM
Pippen without Jordan, 22.0 ppg, Pippen with Jordan, 19.6 ppg.

Difference of 1.4 points per game.

Love before Lebron 26.1 ppg, Love joins Lebron and drops to 16.4 ppg.

Difference of 9.7 points per game.

That's because one plays optimal team offense, while in the case of Lebron, everybody has to sacrifice their game so that he could get his stats.

Rebounds before Lebron 12.5, rebounds when he joined Lebron, 9.7.

Love scored 26.1 ppg in the playoffs before LeBron wow pls link me the game thx

DukeDelonte13
05-28-2019, 11:37 AM
b/c he was playing with a player who turned him into a spotup shooter and nerfed his talent/skills

Loves postup touches died in Cleveland

meanwhile MJ got the ball to Pip in the post and transition for him to eat to his strengths

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How many post up touches do you see across the league in today's NBA?